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From: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com (hist_text-digest) To: hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: hist_text-digest V1 #1255 Reply-To: hist_text Sender: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk hist_text-digest Sunday, October 26 2003 Volume 01 : Number 1255 In this issue: -áááááá MtMan-List: Mt Man List: Crow Moccasins -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Mt Man List: Crow Moccasins -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Mt Man List: Crow Moccasins -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Mt Man List: Crow Moccasins -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Mt Man List: Crow Moccasins -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: off topic..... -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Boys make meat -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Boys make meat -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Boys make meat ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 22:19:41 EDT From: MarkLoader@aol.com Subject: MtMan-List: Mt Man List: Crow Moccasins Hello the Camp I have a friend that is interested in purchasing moccasins made in a style and decoration of the 1820-1830 Crow. Any suggestions? Reproductions of course. Thanks Mark Roadkill Loader - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:04:36 -0600 From: Todd Glover <tetontodd@juno.com> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Mt Man List: Crow Moccasins Yeah Mark, I suggest he contract a pair from Jill since she specializes in Crow finery. Does your friend have lots of money? If not, he may have to do like the majority of us, research them and make them himself. Teton On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 22:19:41 EDT MarkLoader@aol.com writes: > Hello the Camp > I have a friend that is interested in purchasing moccasins made in a > style > and decoration of the 1820-1830 Crow. Any suggestions? Reproductions > of course. > Thanks Mark Roadkill Loader > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: > http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > > - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 00:42:49 EDT From: MarkLoader@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Mt Man List: Crow Moccasins Teton Todd you have any idea of cost? I suppose Crazy and Jill are watching this site. Not sure why he wants them. He has one fine fur trade library. I guess he want to sit on his buffalo robe smoke his pipe and wear his moccasins. You may have met him at Fort Benton at the symposium. If Jill emails me I will put him in touch with her. Thanks Mark Roadkill Loader - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 01:17:51 EDT From: GazeingCyot@cs.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Mt Man List: Crow Moccasins - --part1_120.264fd5dc.2cca0fff_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mark While Jill does do some fine bead and quill work She does not make our moccasins, I do. I could make his Mocs but I don't know if Jill will be up to taking on any side work right now of decorating them. She is busy working on a new dress and other things now. I can check around and see if any of Women of the Fur Trade ladies would like to make them for him. I will forward your Email on to them and see any are interested. I know Jean Heinbuch makes her living at doing this kind of stuff but she is not on line I can give you her contact information if none of the others want to make them. - --part1_120.264fd5dc.2cca0fff_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML>Mark While Jill does do some fine bead and quill work She does not make our m= occasins, I do. I could make his Mocs but I don't know if Jill will be up to taking on a= ny side work right now of decorating them. She is busy working on a new dres= s and other things now. I can check around and see if any of Women of the Fu= r Trade ladies would like to make them for him. I will forward your Email on= to them and see any are interested. I know Jean Heinbuch makes her living a= t doing this kind of stuff but she is not on line I can give you her contact= information if none of the others want to make them. =20 </HTML> - --part1_120.264fd5dc.2cca0fff_boundary-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 01:27:21 EDT From: GazeingCyot@cs.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Mt Man List: Crow Moccasins - --part1_148.1b342e9f.2cca1239_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry about that it got away from me before I was done. Any way there be some ladies in their group that do some fine work Jean is one of them. I'll check and see If any of them are interested but Jean might be the best bet we'll see. Like I said I can make the Mocs but I leave the decorating to Jill and the ladies. See down the trail Crazy Cyot - --part1_148.1b342e9f.2cca1239_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML>Sorry about that it got a= way from me before I was done. Any way there be some ladies in their group that do some fine work Jean=20= is one of them. I'll check and see If any of them are interested but Jean mi= ght be the best bet we'll see. Like I said I can make the Mocs but I leave the decorating to Jill and t= he ladies. See down the trail Crazy Cyot</HTML> - --part1_148.1b342e9f.2cca1239_boundary-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 11:26:00 -0700 From: "RICK TABOR" <blackshirt75@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: off topic..... I was stationed in Spokane in the mid 80's. The local fish wrapper had something to say about the Arian Nation nearly everyday. The funniest incident I recall involves Richard Butlers dog. It seems ol'Dick wanted to raise a master race of K-9s so he had a pure bread german shepard sent from Germany. Now, anybody from that part of the world knows that there is a lot of porcupines up there. This Nazi pooch got into it with one. Richard Butler being the attentive pet owner he was, took the dog to the vet. The story would end here except a local citizen with a mean streak intervened. (I don't know who he was, but I salute him!) This citizen calls the vet and says " Dr. So&so, This is Dick Butler. While your are taking the quills out of my dogs face, just go ahead and neuter him." And so ended Richard Butlers dream of a master race. They say eunuch dog looked real sad walking around the compound. _________________________________________________________________ Send instant messages to anyone on your contact list with MSN Messenger 6.0. Try it now FREE! http://msnmessenger-download.com - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 19:04:04 -0600 (MDT) From: beaverboy@sofast.net Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Boys make meat Dennis, I re-read your Gates of the Mountain canoe trip story and your deer hunting story tonight back to back. Great stories! You guys are having fun and living the life! Good luck down the trail, bb > After 10 days of hard desert sagebrush hunting both of my boys have made > meat > with their smoke poles. Alan, 15, killed his mule deer with a Lyman GPR > .54 cal > flintlock. Andy, 12, got his mule deer with a GabelaÆs Hawkins in .54 cal > percussion. So far I am still in the hunt. At least I can say, ôIÆve > taught them > wellö. > AlanÆs deer was a result of a stalk on a group of 8-9 deer with a couple > of > nice bucks in it. We saw them cross over a ridge so we headed out of the > draw we > were in and circled around to intercept them in the next draw. I send Alan > on > his way while Andy and I drove the truck around about 3 miles to come in > east of > the deer. After parking and hiking about ╜ mile we came over a ridge and > spooked > 3 deer, one of them a small buck. The big group we were after were never > to be > seen again. The deer headed toward Alan who was by this time sitting in > some rim > rock. The deer came almost right to him and did not know he was there. At > about > 90 yards, Alan rose up his flintlock and fired, making contact with the > buck, a > 4x2. He reloaded using paper cartridges and put it down with a neck shot. > I sent > my number 2 son to Alan and then I went to get the pack goats to carry out > meat. > When I arrived back to the kill site, Alan had the deer gutted and ready > to skin > and quarter. > Two days later Andy made meat for the first time. We had headed out > before > daylight to get set up near a water hole and a draw that we knew deer > liked to > use after watering. I set Andy up on the high end of the ridge, while I > went on > down the ridge about 400 yards. As I approached my destination I spotted a > small > buck coming up the ridge toward the water hole. I hunkered down in the > rocks and > waited. In about 10 minutes this little buck came to within 22 yards of > the > goats and me. I bleated a doe call a couple of times and the buck calmed > right > down. He continued to feed and head to water. The boys spotted him and > waited > till he crossed over the ridge top and then pursued him. I at the same > time > followed him to water. We met up and hid in some bitterbrush and waited > for him > to work his way back up the draw. Andy was shaking like a leaf as the deer > came > into range, then abruptly turned away from him. Andy knew it was shoot now > or > miss his opportunity. He rose up using his knee as a rest and took aim. > His > first shot missed and fortunately the buck did not run off. His second > shot > connected below a hind knee stopping the buck from running off. A third > shot to > the neck put him down. AndyÆs first deer was a little 2x2, but a trophy in > his > eyes as well as mine. > Now it is my turn. Both boys have killed mule deer with muzzleloaders and > I > have yet to do so. We will be returning for 3 more days of hunting this > weekend. > Hopefully the weather will turn cooler as the deer have not started their > winter > migration in great numbers yet. > Regards, > Dennis Knapp aka Sticher > Southern Idaho > > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 19:04:04 -0600 (MDT) From: beaverboy@sofast.net Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Boys make meat Dennis, I re-read your Gates of the Mountain canoe trip story and your deer hunting story tonight back to back. Great stories! You guys are having fun and living the life! Good luck down the trail, bb > After 10 days of hard desert sagebrush hunting both of my boys have made > meat > with their smoke poles. Alan, 15, killed his mule deer with a Lyman GPR > .54 cal > flintlock. Andy, 12, got his mule deer with a GabelaÆs Hawkins in .54 cal > percussion. So far I am still in the hunt. At least I can say, ôIÆve > taught them > wellö. > AlanÆs deer was a result of a stalk on a group of 8-9 deer with a couple > of > nice bucks in it. We saw them cross over a ridge so we headed out of the > draw we > were in and circled around to intercept them in the next draw. I send Alan > on > his way while Andy and I drove the truck around about 3 miles to come in > east of > the deer. After parking and hiking about ╜ mile we came over a ridge and > spooked > 3 deer, one of them a small buck. The big group we were after were never > to be > seen again. The deer headed toward Alan who was by this time sitting in > some rim > rock. The deer came almost right to him and did not know he was there. At > about > 90 yards, Alan rose up his flintlock and fired, making contact with the > buck, a > 4x2. He reloaded using paper cartridges and put it down with a neck shot. > I sent > my number 2 son to Alan and then I went to get the pack goats to carry out > meat. > When I arrived back to the kill site, Alan had the deer gutted and ready > to skin > and quarter. > Two days later Andy made meat for the first time. We had headed out > before > daylight to get set up near a water hole and a draw that we knew deer > liked to > use after watering. I set Andy up on the high end of the ridge, while I > went on > down the ridge about 400 yards. As I approached my destination I spotted a > small > buck coming up the ridge toward the water hole. I hunkered down in the > rocks and > waited. In about 10 minutes this little buck came to within 22 yards of > the > goats and me. I bleated a doe call a couple of times and the buck calmed > right > down. He continued to feed and head to water. The boys spotted him and > waited > till he crossed over the ridge top and then pursued him. I at the same > time > followed him to water. We met up and hid in some bitterbrush and waited > for him > to work his way back up the draw. Andy was shaking like a leaf as the deer > came > into range, then abruptly turned away from him. Andy knew it was shoot now > or > miss his opportunity. He rose up using his knee as a rest and took aim. > His > first shot missed and fortunately the buck did not run off. His second > shot > connected below a hind knee stopping the buck from running off. A third > shot to > the neck put him down. AndyÆs first deer was a little 2x2, but a trophy in > his > eyes as well as mine. > Now it is my turn. Both boys have killed mule deer with muzzleloaders and > I > have yet to do so. We will be returning for 3 more days of hunting this > weekend. > Hopefully the weather will turn cooler as the deer have not started their > winter > migration in great numbers yet. > Regards, > Dennis Knapp aka Sticher > Southern Idaho > > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 06:20:46 EST From: NaugaMok@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Boys make meat - --part1_c5.39d71ac0.2ccd080e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey Stitcher! Crongratulate your boys for me! Sorry I didn't make your doin's Memorial Day, but No Load backed out on me at last minute & 'Pest didn't think I aughta make that long run by my lonesome with the hours I'd been working. Hope ya make it down in Feb. Nauga Mok - --part1_c5.39d71ac0.2ccd080e_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML>Hey Stitcher! Crongratulate your boys for me!&nb= sp; Sorry I didn't make your doin's Memorial Day, but No Load backed out on=20= me at last minute & 'Pest didn't think I aughta make that long run by my= lonesome with the hours I'd been working. Hope ya make it down in Feb= . Nauga Mok</HTML> - --part1_c5.39d71ac0.2ccd080e_boundary-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ End of hist_text-digest V1 #1255 ******************************** - To unsubscribe to hist_text-digest, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe hist_text-digest" in the body of the message.