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hist_text-digest       Wednesday, July 9 2003       Volume 01 : Number 1214



In this issue:

-áááááá MtMan-List: Fw: Crabcakes, Actors, and Moses Himself
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Fw: Crabcakes, Actors, and Moses Himself
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Fw: Crabcakes, Actors, and Moses Himself
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Fw: Crabcakes, Actors, and Moses Himself
-áááááá MtMan-List: Re: MtMan stuff - looking for recorded sounds
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Fw: Crabcakes, Actors, and Moses Himself
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Re: MtMan stuff - looking for recorded sounds
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Fw: Crabcakes, Actors, and Moses Himself
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Fw: Crabcakes, Actors, and Moses Himself
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Re: MtMan stuff - looking for recorded sounds
-áááááá MtMan-List: Crabcakes and Moses Himself
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Crabcakes and Moses Himself
-áááááá MtMan-List: Breckenridge Buckskinners

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Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 17:26:31 -0500
From: "larry pendleton" <[e-mail]>
Subject: MtMan-List: Fw: Crabcakes, Actors, and Moses Himself

This was sent to me by Ron Harris. It's rather long but well worth reading.

Larry Pendleton


Crab cakes, Actors, and Moses himself. ©
(or an Actor's Independence Day wish)
By Will Boroski

Charlton Heston in Texas.

A couple of years ago we were in Texas visiting locations for a film I was
producing and while in Dallas the star of the film, Charlton Heston was with
us.  We were promoting a film and setting up preproduction and Mr. Heston
came with us.  "I love Texas", he said, "Can I bring my wife? I love her too
much to not share Texas with her"!
Something he also loved was CRABCAKES. This particular story happened one
memorable evening. When Mr. Heston (who goes by Chuck) said, "Why don't we
all meet at my hotel because I heard they have the best CRABCAKES in Texas"?
So we did…

…about 12 of us were waiting in the lobby to be called to our table when a
woman with misty eyes walked up and said' "Oh my God, It's Moses himself!
Could I have your autograph?" He replied "of course but I'm not Moses- call
me Chuck".  Well Chuck signed the woman's napkin just in time for us to be
called to our table.  I decided to sit next to him so I could talk and get
to know him better. As we sat down I asked "does that Moses thing happen a
lot?" He smiled and said "yes, often, but it's not a bad thing".
Then I started to think about the woman and the enduring affect that his
role of Moses in the 1956 epic film THE TEN COMMANDMENTS had on her. I
looked at her age and thought I bet she saw it when it came out on screen
AND I bet she hadn't seen it since. To be part of a film that has that kind
of endurance and influence surely is rare
(almost 50 years now) and he was so humble about it.

At that point the waiter came by to take our order and stopped dead in his
tracks and said… "Oh my God you're...uh…You're…uh… Moses!" Chuck softly
replied, "No sir, I am Charlton Heston and we heard you have the greatest
CRABCAKES, is that true?" "Yes Mr. Heston the very best".
"That's all I want" he said "A BIG order of CRABCAKES…"

Charlton Heston is one of America's greatest actors who won his first
Academy Award the year I was born for his role in Ben Hur. I was wondering
when someone was going to come up and say "hey you're Ben Hur", or "Aren't
you the guy from Planet of the Apes"?

Anyway there we were Me, Charlton Heston, and twelve other people who were
quiet and just listening as Chuck talked about Crab cakes. "I like em too" I
said. And he said "What do you like about them?" "They remind me of my Mom's
cooking!" "Me too", he said. And our conversation began for the next two
hours while the others just drifted away on their own conversations.

"My Mom & Dad has passed on" he said. "Yours"? I proceeded to tell him about
my Mom who is still alive (and kicking) and my Dad who died in Vietnam in
1969. And while we sat there he asked me questions about my father and got
me talking like I never had before. (Maybe he was MosesJ)
Anyway I proceeded to tell him…I knew my father well, or as much as a ten
year old boy could. We spent a lot of time on our farm even though he was a
career Army officer.
He had already gone to Vietnam and served a year there before he told me he
was going again. "Going again to Vietnam?" Chuck asked.
He sighed and quietly listened as I told him about my father sitting me down
on a stump on the farm and telling me he was going back to Vietnam and that
he didn't have to go, but "HE" felt he had to. I didn't understand all of
this but I do remember understanding that he was sincere and he wanted me to
know some of his thoughts before he went back to Vietnam.

First was that he loved me, and my Mother and four sisters and he wanted me
to be clear on that. The other was that "He" felt that he needed to do this.
He wanted me to remember something that was obviously very important to him
for his voice lowered and slowed. He said "Son, if something happens to me I
want you to know "I" felt that this was the right thing to do. With all the
information we have today compared to what I am trained to do- "I feel it is
the right thing to do"!

If I don't come back days will pass and opinions will come out about the
war…
There will be people who will say it was wrong, the country was wrong, and
they will say it! And here's my proof son! They've said it after every war
there has ever been.
So remember this son, there is nothing UNIQUE about them, they have been
around forever and it is their right to complain, question, and live in the
freedom we fight to preserve. Now the guys that are in Vietnam right now
"THEY" are unique! They that stand up and defend our country are unique and
most importantly- doing the right thing is Unique. He explained that Unique
means special and rare and gave me his final hug. I remember like in slow
motion that hug, a father's love to his child wrapped up in fear, love, and
an overwhelming calmness. All in slow motion…He left two days later and I
became a war orphan when he died two months later.

…I noticed a tear dropping onto my plate as I "came to" and tried to shake
my emotion. Keeping my head down I felt Chucks hand cover mine and without a
word he started to hug my hand with his. It was very much like the hug in my
story. As I slowly looked up I saw his face calmly looking at me. And as he
smiled it forced the mist in his eye to gather and a tear rolled down his
cheek as he whispered "I wish I could have met your father.
We just sat there for a minute when I asked "Did you do anything UNIQUE
during the Vietnam war?"

"No son I was too old to fight, no one wanted me" he laughed. "But I did
fight in WWII and I did go to Vietnam a couple of times."  "WOW" I blurted
in. As he told me about the late 1960's and early 70's and how he went to
Vietnam "anyway".

"I figured that since I couldn't sing or dance" he said "USO shows were out,
so I came up with a plan. I contacted someone that I knew and made
arrangements to go Vietnam and meet some troops." He went on to tell me an
amazing story of how he would fly into the "battle zones" and hike into the
jungle to the troops and how they were amazed when they would see him. On
one of the first trips into the Vietnam jungles he told me about a young
soldier just sitting there staring as Chuck walked up and before he could
say anything, the young soldier quipped "what do you know, Its Moses
himself".

Chuck found that he loved visiting with the soldiers. He would visit and
tell them about the news back home.  He would tell them that he was there to
give them moral support and let them know how proud he was of them. Could
you imagine being an American soldier in Vietnam getting visits from
Charlton Heston deep in the jungle? What an amazing time and what a story.
But it's not over.
One of the things Chuck did was carry a note pad and write down the names
(and phone numbers back home) of the soldiers he would meet. He would ask
the names of their wives, husbands, mothers or fathers and write down a
message they would want him to deliver when he got back to the states.

He traveled in Vietnam for weeks before returning to his home in California.
He went on to say that he was very excited about getting back to his office
and start calling all the soldiers families that he had met. He admitted
that he was nervous at first because he thought they wouldn't believe that
he was Charlton Heston who had just met her husband (in the first case).
So he picked up the phone and dialed the first one. When he asked for her by
name she seemed nervous, but when he told her all was well and who he was,
she screamed with joy! They stayed on the phone for a long time and Chuck
read her a message from her husband in the jungles of Vietnam. When they
hung up Chuck felt even better about what he was doing but realized that he
couldn't talk that long or he would never get through his list. So on to the
next name and number.

It was the name of a guy he remembered well, and as the phone answered he
asked the woman if she was the wife of this guy. She said yes, and Chuck
cheerfully said this is Charlton Heston and I have a message for you from
your husband… silence… Miss are you there? The woman then spoke- "Is this
some kind of cruel joke or something". Chuck's heart stopped and begged the
woman to believe he really was Charlton Heston, when the woman interrupted
and said, "Mr. Whoever you are, my husband was killed two weeks ago!' Chuck
checked his notes and asked her the date- she told him and it coincided with
the actual day he met him. He spent the rest of the call (and day) talking
and crying with the woman and telling her the love message over and over
again.

Apparently he had spoken with the soldier hours before he was killed. And
Chuck confessed the pain for him was almost unbearable. His heart broke as
he read the soldiers final words to his wife over and over again. But the
woman held on to every word as if to be speaking to her husband from beyond
the grave. When he hung up the phone an entire day had passed. His heart was
broken, his nerves were shot, and he had only called two numbers on the
list.

Sleep was infrequent that night but Chuck awoke the next morning earlier and
started in what became common in those Vietnam days. "Hello this is Charlton
Heston…" He said he thought about not doing it after that first day but
remembered his word he gave to the men he met.
So he planned introductions that would be neutral in case he would be
calling a widow or grieving parent. Nothing worked to prepare him for the
news that he got.
Some of the people actually had to console Chuck as call after call he heard
the news of soldiers that had died in Vietnam.
Not reading about it in the paper, not reading a wall memorial, not even a
telegram. Suddenly the thrill of finding his place in the Vietnam War was
not as romantic as planned. Day after day he continued to call, and some of
the soldiers were even already back in the states, most were not, and many
unfortunately were dead. He spent months calling all the names on the list
and when he was finished with the list. He went back for more. That's right
he went back to Vietnam and made more public appearances in the jungle and
came home with more names to call.

"That's how I spent the Vietnam War", He said. "More crab cakes?" Sure I
said. We sat there silently and ate the most delicious combination of
crabmeat & breadcrumbs in Texas. Then I remembered what started this part of
the conversation. It was when he put his massive hand over mine and in
comfort said, "I wish I could have met your father". And it was then that I
did too. Because he would have had a message for me from my father. Like so
many people that heard it from Chuck in those days. I too would have loved
to hear it.

To carry that burden could only be done by a man with broad shoulders and a
huge heart.
I am sure that God knew what he was doing with Charlton Heston, an actor
with a soothing voice and gentle eyes to carry the messages of soldiers from
heaven. I can only imagine the anxiety and stress this could cause a person.
But he did it. And I don't know many who have done anything so "UNIQUE". But
in a way, that day I got to hear the words of my father though the messages
of others, from Moses himself! J

This story is my memory of an event that changed my view on patriotism. (Yes
I think Charlton Heston is a patriot) I started to think about the current
war in Iraq. And I thought of what it is that I can do. Before I would say,
I'm just an actor, what can I do?

But I do ask this…
If an actor goes to Iraq on the back of his celebrity will he bring back a
message or just a pack of cigarettes? If one makes a documentary on the back
of the evil men do and blame it on the same constitution that soldiers die
for should he win an Academy Award?
And if you protest the war will you do it in a way that causes dissention or
honor?

I am still looking for what I can do and I am taking note of what I
shouldn't do.
I do know one thing though. Sometimes doing nothing is better than what some
people in Hollywood have been doing. If your words or actions undermine our
lives as free Americans then I beg of you to reconsider before your future
is filled with regret from your children, strangers, and more importantly
yourself.

When I am older and my son asks me what I did during the Iraq war… I don't
know what I'll say yet. But I am sure I won't have to deny some of the
things other actors are doing today? I will, however, be able to tell him I
supported our agenda on freedom and that his grandfather did not die in
vain. And I will share with him his Grandfathers last words to me, in a
soothing voice and gentle eyes I will carry the messages of his Grandfather
from heaven.
"…son, if something happens to me I want you to know "I" felt that this was
the right thing to do... There will be people who will say it was wrong,
there is nothing UNIQUE about that… But those that stand up and defend our
country are unique and most importantly remember this- doing the right thing
"is" Unique.

Hey Actors!  What did you do during the war in Iraq, anything Unique?

Happy Independence Day…and Thank you Chuck!

Will Boroski, ©
American Actor
July 4th, 2003




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Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 20:54:51 -0400
From: "Addison Miller" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Fw: Crabcakes, Actors, and Moses Himself

Larry, that had absolutely NOTHING to do with BP, Mountain Man, etc.... but
I truly thank you for sharing that with us. As a Viet Nam Vet, I was spit on
when I came home and called baby-killer... He only did it once... <grins>  I
have always admired Charlton Heston... and now more so...

Regards,

Ad Miller


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Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 20:00:25 -0500
From: "larry pendleton" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Fw: Crabcakes, Actors, and Moses Himself

Larry, that had absolutely NOTHING to do with BP, Mountain Man, etc....

>> Thanks Ad.  I know it doesn't have anything to do with those things, but
with times the way they are, I thought it was worth sharing.  Besides, them
that don't like it can use the 'delete' button.

Pendleton


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Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 20:53:27 -0700
From: "Ben" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Fw: Crabcakes, Actors, and Moses Himself

I fully agree that Charelton Heston was, is, a great actor, a damn fine
president of the NRA, and just plain good man.  Will Boroski sounds like he
fits that mold too.

However, I disagree with Ad that this has nothing to do with MtMen or BP. I
believe that anyone that fights to protect our heritage...or build
it...deserves the utmost respect, and that is what the mountain men did as
they opened the door to expansion, what the 7th Cavalry did fighting the
Indians, and what our armed forces have done every since.

My blood boils when I see our flag burned and spit on.  I have been know
to...on occasion during a parade...nudge some of those that sit on their
asses while the flag goes by, and mention that if they want to live under
the freedoms we enjoy they damn well better respect our flag.

Respectfully, Ben
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "larry pendleton" <[e-mail]>
To: "mountain lists" <[e-mail]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 3:26 PM
Subject: MtMan-List: Fw: Crabcakes, Actors, and Moses Himself


> This was sent to me by Ron Harris. It's rather long but well worth
reading.
>
> Larry Pendleton
>
>
> Crab cakes, Actors, and Moses himself. ©
> (or an Actor's Independence Day wish)
> By Will Boroski
>
> Charlton Heston in Texas.
>
> A couple of years ago we were in Texas visiting locations for a film I was
> producing and while in Dallas the star of the film, Charlton Heston was
with
> us.  We were promoting a film and setting up preproduction and Mr. Heston
> came with us.  "I love Texas", he said, "Can I bring my wife? I love her
too
> much to not share Texas with her"!
> Something he also loved was CRABCAKES. This particular story happened one
> memorable evening. When Mr. Heston (who goes by Chuck) said, "Why don't we
> all meet at my hotel because I heard they have the best CRABCAKES in
Texas"?
> So we did…
>
> …about 12 of us were waiting in the lobby to be called to our table when a
> woman with misty eyes walked up and said' "Oh my God, It's Moses himself!
> Could I have your autograph?" He replied "of course but I'm not Moses-
call
> me Chuck".  Well Chuck signed the woman's napkin just in time for us to be
> called to our table.  I decided to sit next to him so I could talk and get
> to know him better. As we sat down I asked "does that Moses thing happen a
> lot?" He smiled and said "yes, often, but it's not a bad thing".
> Then I started to think about the woman and the enduring affect that his
> role of Moses in the 1956 epic film THE TEN COMMANDMENTS had on her. I
> looked at her age and thought I bet she saw it when it came out on screen
> AND I bet she hadn't seen it since. To be part of a film that has that
kind
> of endurance and influence surely is rare
> (almost 50 years now) and he was so humble about it.
>
> At that point the waiter came by to take our order and stopped dead in his
> tracks and said… "Oh my God you're...uh…You're…uh… Moses!" Chuck softly
> replied, "No sir, I am Charlton Heston and we heard you have the greatest
> CRABCAKES, is that true?" "Yes Mr. Heston the very best".
> "That's all I want" he said "A BIG order of CRABCAKES…"
>
> Charlton Heston is one of America's greatest actors who won his first
> Academy Award the year I was born for his role in Ben Hur. I was wondering
> when someone was going to come up and say "hey you're Ben Hur", or "Aren't
> you the guy from Planet of the Apes"?
>
> Anyway there we were Me, Charlton Heston, and twelve other people who were
> quiet and just listening as Chuck talked about Crab cakes. "I like em too"
I
> said. And he said "What do you like about them?" "They remind me of my
Mom's
> cooking!" "Me too", he said. And our conversation began for the next two
> hours while the others just drifted away on their own conversations.
>
> "My Mom & Dad has passed on" he said. "Yours"? I proceeded to tell him
about
> my Mom who is still alive (and kicking) and my Dad who died in Vietnam in
> 1969. And while we sat there he asked me questions about my father and got
> me talking like I never had before. (Maybe he was MosesJ)
> Anyway I proceeded to tell him…I knew my father well, or as much as a ten
> year old boy could. We spent a lot of time on our farm even though he was
a
> career Army officer.
> He had already gone to Vietnam and served a year there before he told me
he
> was going again. "Going again to Vietnam?" Chuck asked.
> He sighed and quietly listened as I told him about my father sitting me
down
> on a stump on the farm and telling me he was going back to Vietnam and
that
> he didn't have to go, but "HE" felt he had to. I didn't understand all of
> this but I do remember understanding that he was sincere and he wanted me
to
> know some of his thoughts before he went back to Vietnam.
>
> First was that he loved me, and my Mother and four sisters and he wanted
me
> to be clear on that. The other was that "He" felt that he needed to do
this.
> He wanted me to remember something that was obviously very important to
him
> for his voice lowered and slowed. He said "Son, if something happens to me
I
> want you to know "I" felt that this was the right thing to do. With all
the
> information we have today compared to what I am trained to do- "I feel it
is
> the right thing to do"!
>
> If I don't come back days will pass and opinions will come out about the
> war…
> There will be people who will say it was wrong, the country was wrong, and
> they will say it! And here's my proof son! They've said it after every war
> there has ever been.
> So remember this son, there is nothing UNIQUE about them, they have been
> around forever and it is their right to complain, question, and live in
the
> freedom we fight to preserve. Now the guys that are in Vietnam right now
> "THEY" are unique! They that stand up and defend our country are unique
and
> most importantly- doing the right thing is Unique. He explained that
Unique
> means special and rare and gave me his final hug. I remember like in slow
> motion that hug, a father's love to his child wrapped up in fear, love,
and
> an overwhelming calmness. All in slow motion…He left two days later and I
> became a war orphan when he died two months later.
>
> …I noticed a tear dropping onto my plate as I "came to" and tried to shake
> my emotion. Keeping my head down I felt Chucks hand cover mine and without
a
> word he started to hug my hand with his. It was very much like the hug in
my
> story. As I slowly looked up I saw his face calmly looking at me. And as
he
> smiled it forced the mist in his eye to gather and a tear rolled down his
> cheek as he whispered "I wish I could have met your father.
> We just sat there for a minute when I asked "Did you do anything UNIQUE
> during the Vietnam war?"
>
> "No son I was too old to fight, no one wanted me" he laughed. "But I did
> fight in WWII and I did go to Vietnam a couple of times."  "WOW" I blurted
> in. As he told me about the late 1960's and early 70's and how he went to
> Vietnam "anyway".
>
> "I figured that since I couldn't sing or dance" he said "USO shows were
out,
> so I came up with a plan. I contacted someone that I knew and made
> arrangements to go Vietnam and meet some troops." He went on to tell me an
> amazing story of how he would fly into the "battle zones" and hike into
the
> jungle to the troops and how they were amazed when they would see him. On
> one of the first trips into the Vietnam jungles he told me about a young
> soldier just sitting there staring as Chuck walked up and before he could
> say anything, the young soldier quipped "what do you know, Its Moses
> himself".
>
> Chuck found that he loved visiting with the soldiers. He would visit and
> tell them about the news back home.  He would tell them that he was there
to
> give them moral support and let them know how proud he was of them. Could
> you imagine being an American soldier in Vietnam getting visits from
> Charlton Heston deep in the jungle? What an amazing time and what a story.
> But it's not over.
> One of the things Chuck did was carry a note pad and write down the names
> (and phone numbers back home) of the soldiers he would meet. He would ask
> the names of their wives, husbands, mothers or fathers and write down a
> message they would want him to deliver when he got back to the states.
>
> He traveled in Vietnam for weeks before returning to his home in
California.
> He went on to say that he was very excited about getting back to his
office
> and start calling all the soldiers families that he had met. He admitted
> that he was nervous at first because he thought they wouldn't believe that
> he was Charlton Heston who had just met her husband (in the first case).
> So he picked up the phone and dialed the first one. When he asked for her
by
> name she seemed nervous, but when he told her all was well and who he was,
> she screamed with joy! They stayed on the phone for a long time and Chuck
> read her a message from her husband in the jungles of Vietnam. When they
> hung up Chuck felt even better about what he was doing but realized that
he
> couldn't talk that long or he would never get through his list. So on to
the
> next name and number.
>
> It was the name of a guy he remembered well, and as the phone answered he
> asked the woman if she was the wife of this guy. She said yes, and Chuck
> cheerfully said this is Charlton Heston and I have a message for you from
> your husband… silence… Miss are you there? The woman then spoke- "Is this
> some kind of cruel joke or something". Chuck's heart stopped and begged
the
> woman to believe he really was Charlton Heston, when the woman interrupted
> and said, "Mr. Whoever you are, my husband was killed two weeks ago!'
Chuck
> checked his notes and asked her the date- she told him and it coincided
with
> the actual day he met him. He spent the rest of the call (and day) talking
> and crying with the woman and telling her the love message over and over
> again.
>
> Apparently he had spoken with the soldier hours before he was killed. And
> Chuck confessed the pain for him was almost unbearable. His heart broke as
> he read the soldiers final words to his wife over and over again. But the
> woman held on to every word as if to be speaking to her husband from
beyond
> the grave. When he hung up the phone an entire day had passed. His heart
was
> broken, his nerves were shot, and he had only called two numbers on the
> list.
>
> Sleep was infrequent that night but Chuck awoke the next morning earlier
and
> started in what became common in those Vietnam days. "Hello this is
Charlton
> Heston…" He said he thought about not doing it after that first day but
> remembered his word he gave to the men he met.
> So he planned introductions that would be neutral in case he would be
> calling a widow or grieving parent. Nothing worked to prepare him for the
> news that he got.
> Some of the people actually had to console Chuck as call after call he
heard
> the news of soldiers that had died in Vietnam.
> Not reading about it in the paper, not reading a wall memorial, not even a
> telegram. Suddenly the thrill of finding his place in the Vietnam War was
> not as romantic as planned. Day after day he continued to call, and some
of
> the soldiers were even already back in the states, most were not, and many
> unfortunately were dead. He spent months calling all the names on the list
> and when he was finished with the list. He went back for more. That's
right
> he went back to Vietnam and made more public appearances in the jungle and
> came home with more names to call.
>
> "That's how I spent the Vietnam War", He said. "More crab cakes?" Sure I
> said. We sat there silently and ate the most delicious combination of
> crabmeat & breadcrumbs in Texas. Then I remembered what started this part
of
> the conversation. It was when he put his massive hand over mine and in
> comfort said, "I wish I could have met your father". And it was then that
I
> did too. Because he would have had a message for me from my father. Like
so
> many people that heard it from Chuck in those days. I too would have loved
> to hear it.
>
> To carry that burden could only be done by a man with broad shoulders and
a
> huge heart.
> I am sure that God knew what he was doing with Charlton Heston, an actor
> with a soothing voice and gentle eyes to carry the messages of soldiers
from
> heaven. I can only imagine the anxiety and stress this could cause a
person.
> But he did it. And I don't know many who have done anything so "UNIQUE".
But
> in a way, that day I got to hear the words of my father though the
messages
> of others, from Moses himself! J
>
> This story is my memory of an event that changed my view on patriotism.
(Yes
> I think Charlton Heston is a patriot) I started to think about the current
> war in Iraq. And I thought of what it is that I can do. Before I would
say,
> I'm just an actor, what can I do?
>
> But I do ask this…
> If an actor goes to Iraq on the back of his celebrity will he bring back a
> message or just a pack of cigarettes? If one makes a documentary on the
back
> of the evil men do and blame it on the same constitution that soldiers die
> for should he win an Academy Award?
> And if you protest the war will you do it in a way that causes dissention
or
> honor?
>
> I am still looking for what I can do and I am taking note of what I
> shouldn't do.
> I do know one thing though. Sometimes doing nothing is better than what
some
> people in Hollywood have been doing. If your words or actions undermine
our
> lives as free Americans then I beg of you to reconsider before your future
> is filled with regret from your children, strangers, and more importantly
> yourself.
>
> When I am older and my son asks me what I did during the Iraq war… I don't
> know what I'll say yet. But I am sure I won't have to deny some of the
> things other actors are doing today? I will, however, be able to tell him
I
> supported our agenda on freedom and that his grandfather did not die in
> vain. And I will share with him his Grandfathers last words to me, in a
> soothing voice and gentle eyes I will carry the messages of his
Grandfather
> from heaven.
> "…son, if something happens to me I want you to know "I" felt that this
was
> the right thing to do... There will be people who will say it was wrong,
> there is nothing UNIQUE about that… But those that stand up and defend our
> country are unique and most importantly remember this- doing the right
thing
> "is" Unique.
>
> Hey Actors!  What did you do during the war in Iraq, anything Unique?
>
> Happy Independence Day…and Thank you Chuck!
>
> Will Boroski, ©
> American Actor
> July 4th, 2003
>
>
>
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Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2003 20:01:58 -0700
From: Mark Lindquist <[e-mail]>
Subject: MtMan-List: Re: MtMan stuff - looking for recorded sounds

Hey guys,

I'm doing a little job for a museum in Great Falls, Montana, telling the
story of Lewis and Clark - as audio only, and narration by Clark - and I'm
looking for authentic recorded sounds - the right rifle shot sound, the
sound of the keelboat, indian voices, that sort of thing.

Do you know of anyone who's recorded stuff at Mountain Men reenactments?  I
have a small budget to buy it too.

Best,

Mark Lindquist



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Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 23:49:13 -0400
From: "Addison Miller" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Fw: Crabcakes, Actors, and Moses Himself

Shucks... ya didn't publish all my msg :)  The first part was said
"tongue-in-cheek"... I really enjoyed it and was just yankin yer chain a
bit.... <VBG>...  Just got back from Kohaka, MO fishing for a week with
friends... Feeling ornery... <grins>

Regards,

Ad

Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Fw: Crabcakes, Actors, and Moses Himself


> Larry, that had absolutely NOTHING to do with BP, Mountain Man, etc....
>
> >> Thanks Ad.  I know it doesn't have anything to do with those things,
but
> with times the way they are, I thought it was worth sharing.  Besides,
them
> that don't like it can use the 'delete' button.
>
> Pendleton
>
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Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 23:50:19 -0400
From: "Addison Miller" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: MtMan stuff - looking for recorded sounds

Mark... check www.google.com under "sound effects"... may get something
there if no one has anything...

Regards,

Ad


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Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 23:51:48 -0400
From: "Addison Miller" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Fw: Crabcakes, Actors, and Moses Himself

> However, I disagree with Ad that this has nothing to do with MtMen or BP.

Honest... I was just yankin Larrys chain :)  I FULLY agree with you guys....

Regards,

Ad


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Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 10:10:17 -0400
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Fw: Crabcakes, Actors, and Moses Himself

hell ad
you were only about 4 hrs away---you should have routed yourself this way
for some trout fishing and libations and mouse could have hit the
victorian shops---know well she could sell her wears here in this town---

"Hawk"

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Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2003 20:02:03 -0600
From: James and Sue Stone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: MtMan stuff - looking for recorded sounds

Mark,
I used to listen to a radio program that was a reenactment of the Lewis
and Clark Expedition.  They had some good enough sound effects to fool a
13 year old kid.  But that was about 1964 on the Armed Forces Radio
Network in Germany.  The program was in English, naturally.
James

Mark Lindquist wrote:

>Hey guys,
>
>I'm doing a little job for a museum in Great Falls, Montana, telling the
>story of Lewis and Clark - as audio only, and narration by Clark - and I'm
>looking for authentic recorded sounds - the right rifle shot sound, the
>sound of the keelboat, indian voices, that sort of thing.
>
>Do you know of anyone who's recorded stuff at Mountain Men reenactments?  I
>have a small budget to buy it too.
>
>Best,
>
>Mark Lindquist
>
>
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Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 07:04:31 -0700 (PDT)
From: Ronald Schrotter <[e-mail]>
Subject: MtMan-List: Crabcakes and Moses Himself

I met Chuck Heston myself during the filming of "The
Mountainmen" years ago, as I'm sure others on the list
did too.  He came out to our camp on Father's Day for
an informal shoot and I had Father's Day breakfast
with him when several of us missed our eggs-He
slithered it down with the rest of us and laughed just
as loud as anybody about it.  He then signed a
Father's Day card that I sent to my dad, who had taken
me to see "The Ten Commandments" years earlier. A fine
man indeed!
  To those interested, my grandson Cpl. Wm. Walker,
U.S.M.C., is now safely back in the States after
serving in the Persian Gulf operation.  Thanks to
those who expressed support, Dog, Hiv. 617

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Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 14:00:21 -0700
From: "roger lahti" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Crabcakes and Moses Himself

Dog,

It's not that hard to recognize a really great man and "Chuck' surely is. No
less so your son. Our thanks to him for his service to us and we are glad he
is home from harms way.

YMOS
Capt. Lahti'


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Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 13:32:52 -0700
From: "Randal Bublitz" <[e-mail]>
Subject: MtMan-List: Breckenridge Buckskinners

Hello friends,       Could anyone tell me who is the current President of
the Breckenridge Buckskinners (Bakersfield area, Ca.) ?
Also an e-mail address? Or, let this person know I would like to contact
him/her.  You may forward my e-mail address: [e-mail]
Thanks in advance, if you can help me out.     Yfab,    Randy 'hardtack'
Bublitz


Randal Bublitz
[e-mail]
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