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hist_text-digest Saturday, March 8 2003 Volume 01 : Number 1162
In this issue:
-áááááá MtMan-List: tularemia
-áááááá MtMan-List: Heroes to Me
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: tularemia
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Heroes to Me
-áááááá MtMan-List: hunters moon
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: hunters moon
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: hunters moon
-áááááá MtMan-List: Was Hunters Moon Now "Hoop Snake"
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: hunters moon
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: hunters moon
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: site
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: hunters moon
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: hunters moon, Hoop Snakes ,Sasquatch
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Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 16:16:48 -0600
From: "Frank Fusco" <Rifleman1776@centurytel.net>
Subject: MtMan-List: tularemia
Hawk asked,
<the question is frank how do you know the animal has it so you wont
toutch it->
As a kid I was taught never to shoot a sitting rabbit. I guess the
theory being that you rarely see a healthy rabbit sitting. He will see you
first and run like, well, like a rabbit. Ifn he is sitting it is highly
suspect he is sick.
I hunted rabbit in northern Illinois and Michigan, sickness was a
concern there even in cold winter.
Good question, I guess, if they look sick, stay away. If they look
healthy when you shoot but have a ugly looking, spotted liver, wash yer
hands pronto. If you have cuts on your hands, get to a doctor.
Frank G. Fusco
Mountain Home, AR
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ozarksmuzzleloaders/
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Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 16:19:44 -0700
From: Mike Moore <amm1616@comcast.net>
Subject: MtMan-List: Heroes to Me
members of the lists,
I just want to say thanks for all the book sells you
have given me over the last few months. The first 100 copies
that I had bought, sold in a month and half and now the second
edition has arrived. Please note the email address change, as the
ads I have running still have the old one listed.
If there isn't a museum or historical site close to you who
has it on their shelves, let me know and I can send you one. Thanks
also for all the nice comments which now cover the side of the fridge
(I still leave the front of it for the college age kids and their
stuff).
mike.
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Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 16:19:32 -0700 (MST)
From: <beaverboy@sofast.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: tularemia
> As a kid I was taught never to shoot a sitting rabbit. I guess the
> theory being that you rarely see a healthy rabbit sitting. He will see
> you first and run like, well, like a rabbit. Ifn he is sitting it is
> highly suspect he is sick.
Oh Frank, how wrong your are. I wouldn't think of filling that
wonderful white meat with lead shot. I shoot all my rabbits as they
sit. I hunt them once a year only. I pick a very, very cold clear
morning when the sun is just rising. The cottontails here just love to
sit in this morning sun and soak up the warmth. While they are
snoozing I drop them with a shot from my trusty .22 trapping pistol.
I hunt those cottontails below an ancient buffalo jump and sometimes
see as many as five or six at a time sitting in the morning sun. I
don't have any problem getting 5 or 6 and miss a lot of them.
Tuleremia is rare. Call your hospital and ask how many cases they
treat a year. Or call the CDC and see what they say.
As for me a sitting rabbit is a sitting duck.
bb
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Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 17:39:56 -0700
From: Charlie P Webb <cwebbbpdr@juno.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Heroes to Me
Hey there Mike,
Did you save me a first edition, or did you forget old Charlie down in
Canon City?
We will be at winter Con, God Willing and the creek don't rise. I was
totally unaware that the books were finished, like I said before, I want
copies of both!
Old Coyote,
On Thu, 06 Mar 2003 16:19:44 -0700 Mike Moore <amm1616@comcast.net>
writes:
>
> members of the lists,
> I just want to say thanks for all the book sells you
> have given me over the last few months. The first 100 copies
> that I had bought, sold in a month and half and now the second
> edition has arrived. Please note the email address change, as the
> ads I have running still have the old one listed.
> If there isn't a museum or historical site close to you who
> has it on their shelves, let me know and I can send you one. Thanks
> also for all the nice comments which now cover the side of the
> fridge
> (I still leave the front of it for the college age kids and their
> stuff).
> mike.
>
>
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Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 09:39:12 -0500
From: "John Hunt" <jhunt1@one.net>
Subject: MtMan-List: hunters moon
Quite some yrs ago go hunting season here in Ohio did not start till about
middle of October. Usually there had been at least one hard killing frost by
then. I guess this was to possibly kill flea, ticks and or whatever on game
???
I can remember my grandfather and dad teaching me to hunt, shoot, and about
the outdoors that you NEVER-NEVER hunted till after the hunters moon. The
hunters moon was the first full moon after the first hard killing frost.
Today squirrel season starts in sept and it is still way too warm to carry
game after harvest safely. To me I still wait for the hunters moon. I just
wonder if the earlier season is to give a longer hunting season, or if
there is a good reason. Sitting in a section of woods at first lite with
nuts dropping around you on a heavily frosted morning is great.
I have not ever myself found any squierrels with spoted livers, I have
heard of a rare finds by others. Very rare.
Oh yes, rabbit season use to start I think in Nov. Was and still is an over
lap in seasons when squirrel and rabbit can be taken at the same time.
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Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 17:28:21 -0700 (MST)
From: <beaverboy@sofast.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: hunters moon
I guess this was to possibly kill flea, ticks and
> or whatever on game ???
>
Cold weather does not kill fleas on animals. If anything, they
scramble to get on an animal when the cold weather hits. I'm not sure
about ticks, I don't see many ticks up here in the fall, mostly
spring and summer. Fleas? Tons of them on critters in the most bitter
of weather and all of them are quite healthy. The rabbits I shoot
have fleas. Very cold.
Grandfather's and old timers are filled with lots old time sayings. I
don't mean any disrespect either in saying this. It was how they were
taught. You hear all kinds of folk lore sayings, cures, remedies
etc.. from older people. I find it wise to not take it all as law. So
many of the old sayings have been proven wrong, inaccurate or
misleading.
If you read very old campcraft books they give interesting facts
about camping such as sleeping with your bed in line with the
magnetic field of the earth, deer sickness from tracking a deer too
closely etc... I don't know how much is true or false but some of it
was definitely way out there. Some people down South honestly still
believe that possums mate through the nose! And Hoop Snakes....
Primitive man has been eating rabbits and red meat year-round and we
have been doing just fine.
Respectfully,
Beaverboy
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Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 18:11:31 -0800 (PST)
From: George Noe <gnoe39@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: hunters moon
- --- beaverboy@sofast.net wrote:
! And Hoop Snakes....
>B. B.,
There is such a thing as a "Hoop Snake".
Really better known as a Rainbow Snake or a Mud
Snake. ( I don't have my books handy and they may be
two different species)They live in the Southern (South
East) parts of the states.
Some even up to the Swampy area of South East
Oklahoma.
They feed primarily on amphibians most specifically
one called an Amphiuma,. These can get pretty good
sized. They do have legs but they are pretty much
vestigial (very short and probably useless).
The snake does have a hard sharp point on the tip of
tail, and as they are trying to swallow the "meal"
they have been observed to ("Sting")poke the Amphiuma
with this "stinger".
They, also when sunning on the bank, usually lay in a
circle with their tail near their mouth. Thus "Hoop
Snake".
Now this is only my thoughts, but I can imagine an
"old Swamper" stepping over a log and on one of these
snakes.It "slaps" its tail into his leg and the wound
gets "blood poisoning" and he dies from this.
He has told everyone what happened as to how he was
injured, and by what. thus the bad rep .
The "taking their tail into their mouth and rolling
down a hill and spitting it into their vic tum has
somehow grown from this.
One of my uncles told us kids this story for years.
"He and old Johnny Jackson was sawing timber (his
stepdad was a saw mill man)one day and heard a noise
and looked up. That D---ed snake was rolling down the
hill at them. They dropped their tools and ran, and as
they looked back it "spit " out it's tail and stuck it
into a Post Oak tree right where he was standing.The
next day they went back after their saw and ax and
that tree was deader than H--l.
And if you don't believe me just ask "old" Johnny
Jackson."
I never had a chance to ask him.
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Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 18:48:37 -0800 (PST)
From: George Noe <gnoe39@yahoo.com>
Subject: MtMan-List: Was Hunters Moon Now "Hoop Snake"
ps. I forgot to mention my uncle and Jhonny was
cutting logs in Adair County, Oklahoma.
(Eastcentral part on the state) much to far north to
be even close to the "swamps" of South East OK.
It is also highly unlikely these snakes would be very
far from water and their source of food.
I assume he had heard this tale all his life and as
he retold it . He had to make it official so He and
Old Johnny was there.
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Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 19:43:07 -0800
From: "roger lahti" <amm1719@charter.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: hunters moon
> There is such a thing as a "Hoop Snake".
> Really better known as a Rainbow Snake or a Mud
> Snake. ( I don't have my books handy and they may be
> two different species)They live in the Southern (South
> East) parts of the states.
George,
That was a good one! LOL Maybe I should tell how we catch sasquatch up here
in the Pacific NW? And maybe see if I can dredge up the picture of the 200
lb. Ground Squirrel that one of our buddies shot a couple years ago on the
Hanford Atomic Reservation?
YMOS
Capt. Lahti'
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Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 22:20:32 -0800
From: tetontodd@juno.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: hunters moon
Capt,
Do share your secrets about the Sasquatch with us....sure hate to run
onto one of those in the woods, glad we don't have em this far inland.
And, it's a good thing them are ground squirrels, can you imagine a 200
pounder climbing up a tree and falling on you? You boys got it tough up
there in the North woods.
About the most exciting thing that has ever happened down here along
theWasatch was when ole Gabe Bridger and the boys shot a herd of buffs
and skinned em and rolled em into the Big Salt Lake and cured all the
meat! They was fixed for meat all winter!
Teton
On Fri, 7 Mar 2003 19:43:07 -0800 "roger lahti" <amm1719@charter.net>
writes:
>
> > There is such a thing as a "Hoop Snake".
> > Really better known as a Rainbow Snake or a Mud
> > Snake. ( I don't have my books handy and they may be
> > two different species)They live in the Southern (South
> > East) parts of the states.
>
> George,
>
> That was a good one! LOL Maybe I should tell how we catch sasquatch
> up here
> in the Pacific NW? And maybe see if I can dredge up the picture of
> the 200
> lb. Ground Squirrel that one of our buddies shot a couple years ago
> on the
> Hanford Atomic Reservation?
>
> YMOS
> Capt. Lahti'
>
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Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 07:24:00 -0700 (MST)
From: <beaverboy@sofast.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: site
Jim,
I visited your site. Excellent web page! Made me long for the hardwood
forest of my youth. I really am amazed by the excellent sites of
members of this list. All of them are first rate.
> Please visit my site for the WOODSMEN OF THE LITTLE MUSKEGON. At this
> time we have thirteen brothers in our party,which makes us the largest
> party in michigan. I hope you find this site of some interest. Jim
> Hall....http://www.jlhall@triton.net
> click on link below to visit
> THE WOODSMEN OF THE LITTLE MUSKEGON
> web site....http://www.wotlm.com
> LIVE, SO THAT YOU MAY LIVE...JIM
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Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 07:35:15 -0700 (MST)
From: <beaverboy@sofast.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: hunters moon
> One of my uncles told us kids this story for years.
> "He and old Johnny Jackson was sawing timber (his
> stepdad was a saw mill man)one day and heard a noise
> and looked up. That D---ed snake was rolling down the
> hill at them. They dropped their tools and ran, and as
> they looked back it "spit " out it's tail and stuck it
> into a Post Oak tree right where he was standing.The
> next day they went back after their saw and ax and
> that tree was deader than H--l.
> And if you don't believe me just ask "old" Johnny
> Jackson."
> I never had a chance to ask him.
George,
Who am I to argue with your Uncle or Johnny Jackson. Snakes with tail
in mouth and rolling down a hillside like a barrel hoop most be
something to behold!
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Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 18:42:29 -0800 (PST)
From: George Noe <gnoe39@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: hunters moon, Hoop Snakes ,Sasquatch
- --- tetontodd@juno.com wrote:
> Capt,
>
> Do share your secrets about the Sasquatch with
> us....sure hate to run
> onto one of those in the woods, glad we don't have
> em this far inland.
>
Capt.
I second that in case they extend their range down as
far as OK.
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