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Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 16:15:24 -0700
From: "Wynn Ormond" <oci@pcu.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Saddle Ideas
Thomas Petersen wrote:
> I am having a new horse Saddle made. For practical purposes, it will be a
> cutting saddle style. I would like to give it a "signature" which would be
> unique to either Indian or mountain man period look. Obviously I am mixing
> old with new, but I want something that works well, but has a specialness
> to it.
Windwalker wrote:
If your going to use it much think Mclellan
I rode a Mclellan for about six months they are serviceable but man did I
miss the horn.
I personally believe that the RMFT did not put that buff robe or blanket on
there for fun, I believe that without it they would be sitting on rawhide
bars. If you want to put a mountaineer signiture on it leave of the seat.
You can look at the saddles in Kurtz drawings on Deans site for some ideas
of your own. They are just late from period but they show details that
Miller did not.
Also a crupper is very authentic and a breast coller not near so common.
Indians saddles were not extremely close to a cutting saddle in any way I
now of. Maybe you could take someones scalp and hang it off the horn, that
would be authentic and a good conversation piece. :)
Wynn Ormond
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Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 16:26:13 -0700
From: "Wynn Ormond" <oci@pcu.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: gun waiting
> >> There were very few originals made with vent
> liners. Vent liners were only used on the very finest quality guns,
> Mantons, Nocks, Becks, and so forth. But most of the touch holes in guns
> without vent liners were huge by
> todays standards. Our guns usually have touch holes that measure roughly
> 1/16"
> to 5/64" where most of theirs were 3/32" to nearly 1/8". It takes a hole
> that big to get consistent ignition with only a hole drilled in the side
of
> the
> barrel.
>
> Pendleton
Is there a reason why we do not want a hole that big?
Wynn Ormnond
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Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 18:12:00 -0600
From: "larry pendleton" <yrrw@airmail.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: gun waiting
Is there a reason why we do not want a hole that big?
Wynn Ormnond
>> Wynn,
Most folks today expect match quality accuracy from their guns. The
bigger touch hole tends to decrease breech pressures thus decreasing
velocity which can hinder accuracy especially in guns with slow twist
barrels. ( one in 56" to one in 66" or 72" )
Another bucket of worms is just how many of the originals had slow twist
barrels ? A couple of Oldtimers who began playing with muzzleloaders in the
post WWII days said that nearly all of the originals they had seen had
barrels with a one in 48" twist. Given that these two guys worked for a
leading antique gun dealer restoring guns, and handled virtually every type
of gun you could name, it makes one wonder.
Pendleton
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Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:15:19 EST
From: JOAQUINQS@aol.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Nov.11
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Thanks to all vets for the freedom we now enjoy. My father was from the
small island of Guam. He lived there during the Japanese occupation. Soon
after the liberation from Japanese control one way his family said thanks was
for all the sons to join the U.S. military. Unfortunately he had to return
to the island only to escort all of his brothers bodies back home. He
instilled in my brother and I the love he had for the great country of ours
and what they have fought for. I will soon go back home and visit his grave
and say thanks again.
Frank Sablan
Midland,Texas
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Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 18:11:23 -0800
From: "kc16" <kc16@qwest.net>
Subject: MtMan-List: Saddles for sale
Klohowya to the list,
I haven't been on this list for a couple years now. This is not an
advertisement for me...but another brother up in Idaho who has a couple
Sante Fe saddles that he wants to sell. Here are the particulars and how to
get ahold of him if you want.
2 New Sante Fe (Mexican) parade type saddles. Full rigged with spur straps,
chest collar, bingle car bridal strap, thick pad, belly strap.
$500 + shipping
Contact:
Tom Cornwall
PO Box 851
Mogie Srpings, ID 83845
(208) 267-9418
Give him a call if any of you are interested.
Curtis "Blood" Krouse #1651
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Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 21:32:26 EST
From: NaugaMok@aol.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Tip's for Priming the Pan
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In a message dated 11/8/02 5:34:22 AM Pacific Standard Time,
TheGreyWolfe@webtv.net writes:
> The jist of the tip was to prim the
> pan fuller on one side but I can't now remember was it fuller toward the
> touch hole or away?
Away. If you get prime banked against the vent, it acts like a fuse & slows
things down. Priming the outer end of the pan heavier seems to throw the
flame into the vent -- goes "bang!" quicker.
Nauga Mok
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pan fuller on one side but I can't now remember was it fuller toward the<BR>
Away. If you get prime banked against the vent, it acts like a fuse & slows things down. Priming the outer end of the pan heavier seems to throw the flame into the vent -- goes "bang!" quicker. <BR>
