<BR>Your boy has got the same problem that I have when it comes to shooting.
<BR>Being right handed and left eye dominate, as for shooting a gun it has not bothered me, and I don't hold the gun or site it any different then any one else does. But when it comes to shooting a bow it really shows up to a point that is better to start him out shooting it left handed, Is the best advice I can give ya.
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Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 14:31:51 EDT
From: LivingInThePast@aol.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Teaching Shooting
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In a message dated 9/7/2002 11:01:40 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
GazeingCyot@cs.com writes: start him out shooting it left handed>>
Wynn, I'd have to agree with Cyot; IMO, that will give him a better chance to
do really well.
This would be a good time to go Lefty since the replacement bow you now have
to get for him ;) could be made as a left-hander.
One other thought: This might be a good time to see if he has the rare
advantage of being ambidextrous, and shoot both ways. It would take some
training and practice and patience, but what a cool thing to be able to do.
Pick up a righty or lefty and do as well with either. You gotta get 'em while
they're young.......
Barn
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT COLOR="#000080" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SCRIPT" FACE="Comic Sans MS" LANG="0"><B>In a message dated 9/7/2002 11:01:40 AM Pacific Daylight Time, GazeingCyot@cs.com writes: </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="arial" LANG="0"></B>start him out shooting it left handed>><BR>
<BR>
Wynn, I'd have to agree with Cyot; IMO, that will give him a better chance to do really well.<BR>
<BR>
This would be a good time to go Lefty since the replacement bow you now have to get for him ;) could be made as a left-hander.<BR>
<BR>
One other thought: This might be a good time to see if he has the rare advantage of being ambidextrous, and shoot both ways. It would take some training and practice and patience, but what a cool thing to be able to do. Pick up a righty or lefty and do as well with either. You gotta get 'em while they're young.......<BR>
<BR> When shooting a primitive bow ether shoot the bow flat or cantering it to a bout 45 degrees helps. If this does not help him you could build an arrow rest for him. This is not allowed in most primitive coemption but if you what him to enjoy shooting it ya need to make it so it don't hurt to shoot it. For the slap of the string on his arm I made my self an arm guard out of raw hide.
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Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 17:59:26 EDT
From: NaugaMok@aol.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Teaching Shooting
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In a message dated 9/7/02 12:33:01 PM Pacific Daylight Time, oci@pcu.net
writes:
> He struggles with both eyes open. He can only wink with the one eye and it
> has become a habit already. If I give him a play gun and site down it in
> reverse he looks like he is trying to line it up with his nose not his eye.
>
What happens when he holds the play gun left handed? I also had that problem
'cep I'm left handed & right eyed. Learned to shoot left handed, but never
got above being just a "fair" shot. THEN, I messed up my left shoulder & had
to relearn how to shoot right handed at about 45 years old. TOUGH to do, but
I FINALLY managed. I'm a much better shot with dominant eye AND if the need
arises, now that left shoulder is back close to normal, I can shoot either
hand. Even left handed shooting has improved, but still not quite as good as
right handed. Now, I'm going through the same problems with wife 'cuz she's
like your son -- right handed & left eyed. It was a battle to get her to
remember to shoot left handed, but she's getting better -- & she's now over
50. IF she can do it, your son should have an easier time of it. His habits
haven't had 50 years to take a "set" yet! 8)
> I have to be careful not to make it to much of a deal or he gets frustrated.
> then I fail him.
THAT'S the real problem! Remember to use LOTS of positive reinforcements!
> It is kinda fun to be able to do things ambidextrously. I can throw a
> lasso
> about the same either hand, not real well but I can catch something
> sometimes and it is fun to impress my nephews rodeo friends by telling them
> to use the other hand.
Besides being able to shoot either hand, I can also weld either hand & it
comes in HANDY on the job. My favorite trick is to switch hands in the
middle of a pass without breaking arc. When some one's watching & paying
attention, they can't believe what they saw. 8)
> Is there anything you can put on a primitive bow to create a ledge so he
> does not have to let the arrow rest on his hand as he shoot or is there a
> better way around it?
I made arrow rests for both our bows out of pieces of antler tucked (and
glued) under brain tan for the grip. While I'm not sure it a a period
correct cure, I did use proper materials. Both our bows were hand made
recurve self bows & shot nicely with the rests. Never did get wife to switch
to left handed archery, so we could shoot each other's bows -- 'till mine
broke. 8( Might try a recurve with your son -- they don't bite the arm like
a straight bow does. Recurves ARE period -- the Indians called 'em "contrary
bows".
Nauga Mok
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=1 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 9/7/02 12:33:01 PM Pacific Daylight Time, oci@pcu.net writes:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">He struggles with both eyes open. He can only wink with the one eye and it<BR>
has become a habit already. If I give him a play gun and site down it in<BR>
reverse he looks like he is trying to line it up with his nose not his eye.<BR>
What happens when he holds the play gun left handed? I also had that problem 'cep I'm left handed & right eyed. Learned to shoot left handed, but never got above being just a "fair" shot. THEN, I messed up my left shoulder & had to relearn how to shoot right handed at about 45 years old. TOUGH to do, but I FINALLY managed. I'm a much better shot with dominant eye AND if the need arises, now that left shoulder is back close to normal, I can shoot either hand. Even left handed shooting has improved, but still not quite as good as right handed. Now, I'm going through the same problems with wife 'cuz she's like your son -- right handed & left eyed. It was a battle to get her to remember to shoot left handed, but she's getting better -- & she's now over 50. IF she can do it, your son should have an easier time of it. His habits haven't had 50 years to take a "set" yet! 8) <BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I have to be careful not to make it to much of a deal or he gets frustrated.<BR>
then I fail him.</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">THAT'S the real problem! Remember to use LOTS of positive reinforcements!<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"> It is kinda fun to be able to do things ambidextrously. I can throw a lasso<BR>
about the same either hand, not real well but I can catch something<BR>
sometimes and it is fun to impress my nephews rodeo friends by telling them<BR>
to use the other hand.</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
<BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=1 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">Besides being able to shoot either hand, I can also weld either hand & it comes in HANDY on the job. My favorite trick is to switch hands in the middle of a pass without breaking arc. When some one's watching & paying attention, they can't believe what they saw. 8)</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Is there anything you can put on a primitive bow to create a ledge so he<BR>
does not have to let the arrow rest on his hand as he shoot or is there a<BR>
better way around it?</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
<BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=1 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">I made arrow rests for both our bows out of pieces of antler tucked (and glued) under brain tan for the grip. While I'm not sure it a a period correct cure, I did use proper materials. Both our bows were hand made recurve self bows & shot nicely with the rests. Never did get wife to switch to left handed archery, so we could shoot each other's bows -- 'till mine broke. 8( Might try a recurve with your son -- they don't bite the arm like a straight bow does. Recurves ARE period -- the Indians called 'em "contrary bows". </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Is there anything you can put on a primitive bow to create a ledge so he<BR>
does not have to let the arrow rest on his hand</BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000080" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SCRIPT" FACE="Comic Sans MS" LANG="0"><B><BR>
I'm thinking YES, a small ledge could be carved into the edges of the bow itself. Personally I don't see any reason this couldn't be done on both sides to allow for ambidextrous shooting too. Barn</B></FONT></HTML>
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Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 19:17:31 -0400
From: "Addison Miller" <admiller@citynet.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: TOW alternatives
>I was thinking the other day about scubbing out a rifle with tow, but
since
>I didn't have any on hand, got to wondering what one might have used
if out
>on the trail for a while.
Whats wrong with using left over pieces of rope to make a bore
scrubber?
Ad Miller
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Date: Sat, 07 Sep 2002 20:06:23 -0600
From: Allen Hall <allenhall@srv.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Teaching Shooting
At 10:13 AM 9/7/2002 -0600, you wrote:
Wynn,
I won't make any comment on shooting a bow, but with a handgun, it's just
fine to shoot right handed and left eyed. When shooting a long gun, just
shut the left eye and shoot right handed.
Works fine.
Allen
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Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 12:41:25 -0500
From: Monte Holder <sja028@mail.connect.more.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: TOW alternatives
Not a thing wrong with trying rope Mr. Miller, I will try that, and thanks
for the suggestion. I have patches, (mentioned by someone in an earlier
reply), I was just looking for some plant alternative that I may have
growing around. It seems pulling weeds is not a high priority out on the
farm, but if cleaning my rifle with some.....then a few more might get
pulled.
Addison Miller wrote:
> >I was thinking the other day about scubbing out a rifle with tow, but
> since
> >I didn't have any on hand, got to wondering what one might have used
> if out
> >on the trail for a while.
>
> Whats wrong with using left over pieces of rope to make a bore
> scrubber?
>
> Ad Miller
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Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 11:07:20 -0700
From: "De Santis, Nick" <nick.de.santis@intel.com>
Subject: MtMan-List: Question
I was reading the thread on alternates to tow for cleaning and it made me
wonder about a similar problem. Can anyone let me know about what would be
used for patches other than cloth? I am not worried personally, as I am
rarely out long enough to run out of shirt tail, but long term "in the day",
would some variety of leaves or leather etc. have been used?
Thanks,
Nick
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