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Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2002 16:12:43 -0700
From: "busterize" <busterize@oldwest.net>
Subject: MtMan-List: Fleas & High Elevation
Moving from sea level to a mile high city, I can testify fleas are rare,
altho' my vet says dogs that live near water sources are bothered by them.
Have never seen lice around, tho.'
Geri D
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Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2002 16:16:20 -0700
From: "busterize" <busterize@oldwest.net>
Subject: MtMan-List: BeaverBoy-Smoking
What I read on a previous digest of this list was that the scent of smoking
on a hunter would warn off game.
Geri D
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Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2002 16:19:25 -0700
From: "busterize" <busterize@oldwest.net>
Subject: MtMan-List: TrapRjoe - Smoking
Don't know about animals using ladies perfumes, but I did have a cat once
that loved men's cologne.
Geri D
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Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2002 22:13:50 -0600 (MDT)
From: <beaverboy@sofast.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Fleas & High Elevation
Geri,
Go shoot a coyote or fox and layed it nearby you at that altitude and
I'm willing to bet that you'll find it will come to life with fleas. I
have never met a coyote or a fox yet that didn't have fleas and I have
trapped and bought whole dead dogs from all altitudes here in Montana and
Wyoming. Red fox are the most flea infested critter on God's green earth.
The altitude may play a small factor in some pest but fleas can travel
from warm host to warm host without ever touching the ground.
I'm no vet and I didn't ask a vet about it but I've bought hundreds of
dead coyotes and fox in my ten years as a furbuyer and all the freshly
dead ones had fleas. Ask any trapper or furbuyer, don't take my word for
it.
Sincerely, Beaverboy
Moving from sea level to a mile high city, I can testify fleas are
> rare, altho' my vet says dogs that live near water sources are bothered
> by them. Have never seen lice around, tho.'
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> Geri D
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Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2002 22:44:59 -0600 (MDT)
From: <beaverboy@sofast.net>
Subject: MtMan-List: The wind is everything and Marijuana
Everyone knows scent is crucial in hunting and trapping but you can
stink to high heaven and smoke a cigar (though I don't recommend it) while
hunting, just watch the wind. The wind is everything. I don't think it is
possible for a human to get their bodies clean enough to avoid detection
by long nosed critters. Drug dogs at airports can smell dope wrapped up in
triple bagies inside of leather luggage as it passes by on a conveyor,
their sense of smell is so keen. It's amazing sometimes that we can catch
coyotes at all but special measures are taken.
We've set beaver traps as the beaver swam around splashing their tails
watching us set them and caught them a half hour later, other times they
are hard to catch.
Here in the wide open country (or anywhere), if you have the wind in
your face and the sun to your back on a stalk you got it almost made.
You guys have a nice weekend,
Beaverboy
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Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2002 10:26:16 -0500
From: "Frank Fusco" <Rifleman1776@centurytel.net>
Subject: MtMan-List: pictures for sale
Time to reduce volume of collected 'stuff' around the house.
I am selling two muzzle loading/buckskining pictures.
One is a 20"X26" nicely framed print of SHOOTING FOR THE BEEF by
Bingham.
The other is an unframed, autographed, print of a pen and ink drawing
BROTHER WOLF by Ballard. It is about 14"X28" and features a mountain man
with his rifle standing beside his pet wolf.
Write me offlist for details. (p.s. "details" does not necessarily mean
money, I will consider a trade for other 'goodies')
Frank G. Fusco
Mountain Home, Arkansas
http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/ozarksmuzzleloaders
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Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2002 20:54:29 -0700
From: "Daniel L. "Concho" Smith" <hrd7@lycos.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: The wind is everything and Marijuana
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I don't think it is possible for a human to get their bodies clean enough to avoid detection by long nosed critters..........
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Beaverboy,
For years the bowhunter have used Baking Soda to cut the human odor by rubbing on themselves and their clothing, then using different animal urines on a strip of cloth tied to their boot lases.
Now there are several makers of a product that cuts the odor and the shine out of clothing with a special soap and spray, plus a body soap and shampoo. Saw a demo on this stuff and the drug dogs really get messed up with smelling it, will probably be taken off the market because of that one reason is what we have been told here at Penn State.
Concho [HRD]
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<BR>Sorry to say but all that stuff is made for one reason and that is to get you to buy it. For when you start walking or doing any thing that causes your body to warm up you give of odor and they can smell ya. I have had my best luck with just rubbing elk urine on me when hunting but ya got to do it regularly or your stink will come through. It is hard to imagine that a persons smell is stronger then that stuff but it is. So your best bet is to watch the wind and move slow. I know it sounds a bit bad but after a while ya get use to the smell. Ya do get some odd looks form the folks in town when ya stop in a store to get something after a day of hunting. More so then I usually get in my buckskins it must be the Elk perfume.
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Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 01:30:38 EDT
From: GazeingCyot@cs.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Fleas & High Elevation
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> Beaverboy
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> That be a fact Fox be about the worst, heck ya ain't even got to mess with
> the critter him self just go messin a round in front of one of their den's
> and your sure to find some fleas on ya, they be lousy with them. Was it you
> that was talking about water fieas on Beaver now that's a new one on me,
> never notice any thing like that before. Cores can't say as I've looked for
> parasites of beaver If they ain't jumpin on me who's lookin for them.
<BR>That be a fact Fox be about the worst, heck ya ain't even got to mess with the critter him self just go messin a round in front of one of their den's and your sure to find some fleas on ya, they be lousy with them. Was it you that was talking about water fieas on Beaver now that's a new one on me, never notice any thing like that before. Cores can't say as I've looked for parasites of beaver If they ain't jumpin on me who's lookin for them.</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">see ya on the trap line