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Subject: hist_text-digest V1 #1058
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hist_text-digest Thursday, July 11 2002 Volume 01 : Number 1058
In this issue:
-áááááá MtMan-List: Crass Commercial Spam
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Nothing really
-áááááá [none]
-áááááá MtMan-List: Re: No Subject
-áááááá MtMan-List: I was out of line
-áááááá MtMan-List: Booming Sands?!
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: I was out of line
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: I was out of line
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: I was out of line
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: I was out of line
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: I was out of line
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: I was out of line
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Booming What?
-áááááá MtMan-List: Booming Volcanoes?
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: I was out of line
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Booming Volcanoes?
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: I was out of line
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Booming Volcanoes?
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: I was out of line
-áááááá RE: MtMan-List: Booming Volcanoes?
-áááááá MtMan-List: From: <beaverboy@sofast.net>
-áááááá MtMan-List: Booming water? Well, almost.
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: I was out of line
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Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 08:17:59 -0400
From: "Double Edge Forge" <deforge1@bright.net>
Subject: MtMan-List: Crass Commercial Spam
Folks,
Got a few more knives up on the site! http://www.bright.net/~deforge1
Christmas is coming.<G>
D
"Abair ach beagan is abair gu math e"
DOUBLE EDGE FORGE
Knives and Iron Accouterments
http://www.bright.net/~deforge1
"Knowing how is just the beginning."
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Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:02:13 -0400
From: manbear <manbear@netonecom.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Nothing really
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Aye Lad,
I'll drink tae tha' wi' and dram o' gud Single Malt.
Slainte
Manbear
Double Edge Forge wrote:
> God, I hate flatlanders. D]Ay! They come! They come!
> Wi' skirl o' pipe an' beat o' drum
> A' braw lads o' Scotia's blood
> Tho' far awa' frae bens an' muirs
> Tae follow the lad o' Cameron line
> Clasping Targe an' Claymore
> Wi' courage an' pride
> They battle as warriors o' auld
> A' yells makes blood run cauld
> Wild Highlanders! Wild Highlanders!
> Intae tha fray! Stand an' hold
> Scotia! Scotia Mo Chridhe! For ay! - Kathleen Calhoun
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Aye Lad,
<br>I'll drink tae tha' wi' and dram o' gud Single Malt.
<br>Slainte
<br>Manbear
<p>Double Edge Forge wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE> <font face="Arial"><font size=-1>God, I hate
flatlanders.</font></font> <font face="Arial"><font size=-1>D</font></font><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>]Ay!
They come! They come!</font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>Wi' skirl o' pipe an' beat o' drum</font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>A' braw lads o' Scotia's blood</font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>Tho' far awa' frae bens an' muirs</font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>Tae follow the lad o' Cameron line</font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>Clasping Targe an' Claymore</font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>Wi' courage an' pride</font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>They battle as warriors o' auld</font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>A' yells makes blood run cauld</font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>Wild Highlanders! Wild Highlanders!</font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>Intae tha fray! Stand an' hold</font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>Scotia! Scotia Mo Chridhe! For ay!</font></font> <font face="Arial"><font size=-1>-
Kathleen Calhoun</font></font> </blockquote>
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Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 18:47:33 -0400
From: "WindWalker" <windwalker@fastmail.fm>
Subject: [none]
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Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 22:16:36 EDT
From: SWzypher@aol.com
Subject: MtMan-List: Re: No Subject
No Subject
No Text
Great Message for wasting time.
Richard James
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Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 06:59:20 -0600 (MDT)
From: <beaverboy@sofast.net>
Subject: MtMan-List: I was out of line
Dear List and Traprjon,
I'm very sorry if I offended any lame, one-armed beaver trappers. I am
now taking a mountainman sensitivity class. In the future we should refer
to them as Mountainperson's as not to offend anyone. I don't think I used
the word "stupid" in any of my post and never would. At least I'm not just
trying to sell stuff on the list, you have to give some credit for that.
Seriously, in the future I will be more polite and less of an arrogant
smart aleck.
They're just my opinions and I'm sticking to them. And thats the way
my stick floats.
Sincerely,
Beaverboy
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Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 07:14:23 -0600 (MDT)
From: <beaverboy@sofast.net>
Subject: MtMan-List: Booming Sands?!
On July 4th 1805 Meriweather Lewis wrote:
" since our arrival at the falls (Great falls of the Missouri) we have
repeatedly witnessed a nois............as loud and resembling precisely
the discharge of a piece of ordinance of 6 pounds at the distance of 3
miles.......this, being sometime heard only once and at other times, six
or seven discharges in quick succession. it is heard also at different
seasons of the day and night. I am at a loss to account for this
phenomenon."
This is the last great mystery of the Corps of Discovery. I have
solved the mystery but was wondering what other people on the list think
the cause was. I've heard just about everything so far but my explaination
is the only one that works. And I have proof.
John Colter was ,by the way, the first American Mountainperson.
Beaverboy
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Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 10:57:24 EDT
From: JOAQUINQS@aol.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: I was out of line
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Are we not supposed to sell on this list?
Frank
Odessa,Texas
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Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 10:03:25 -0500
From: "Paul Jones" <pwjones@myexcel.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: I was out of line
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Certainly, Frank, we continue to be interested in quality items, =
however, nothing from lame one-armed trappers is acceptable.
----- Original Message -----=20
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Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: I was out of line
Are we not supposed to sell on this list?
Frank
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Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 11:03:34 -0400
From: "Double Edge Forge" <deforge1@bright.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: I was out of line
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"Are we not supposed to sell on this list?"
Sure you can, Frank, at least Dean hasn't tossed me lo these many years, =
even though there have been those that would dearly love him to..
You make some damned fine canteens! Had mine, what, three yrs now and =
nary a leak... and I don't baby stuff...
Speaking of selling on the list.... Check the site this evening. There =
should be another sticker ot two on there!!!!<BG>
Dennis Miles
AMM 1622 Hiv.
"Abair ach beagan is abair gu math e"
DOUBLE EDGE FORGE
Knives and Iron Accouterments
http://www.bright.net/~deforge1
"Knowing how is just the beginning."
----- Original Message -----=20
From: JOAQUINQS@aol.com=20
To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com=20
Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: I was out of line
Are we not supposed to sell on this list?
Frank
Odessa,Texas=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>"Are we not supposed to sell on this=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sure you can, Frank, at least Dean =
hasn't tossed me=20
lo these many years, even though there have been those that would dearly =
love=20
him to..</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>You make some damned fine canteens! Had =
mine, what,=20
three yrs now and nary a leak... and I don't baby stuff...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Speaking of selling on the list.... =
Check the site=20
this evening. There should be another sticker ot two on=20
there!!!!<BG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dennis Miles</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>AMM 1622 Hiv.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> "Abair ach beagan is abair =
gu math=20
e"<BR> =
DOUBLE=20
EDGE FORGE<BR> Knives and Iron=20
Accouterments<BR> <A=20
href=3D"http://www.bright.net/~deforge1">http://www.bright.net/~deforge1<=
/A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> "Knowing how is just the=20
beginning."</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=3DJOAQUINQS@aol.com=20
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Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 09:46:21 -0700
From: "Daniel L. "Concho" Smith" <hrd7@lycos.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: I was out of line
Thanks Jones,
Crap - so much for what I was going to sell.
Concho [HRD]
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Historical Research & Development
"ANISCHIK"(is how the Moravians saw it) THANK YOU.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
On Thu, 11 Jul 2002 10:03:25
Paul Jones wrote:
>Certainly, Frank, we continue to be interested in quality items, however, nothing from lame one-armed trappers is acceptable.
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Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 12:59:33 -0500
From: "Paul Jones" <pwjones@myexcel.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: I was out of line
Concho,
No, no, sell to us, please! The "nothing from lame one-armed trappers" was
taken from a selfless post from our resident trapping guru and general all
round wonderexpert, and not intended to reference any honorable person,
living or otherwise, fully-limbed or whatever.
So relax and pull out your medicine wagon of neat goods.
Pablo
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From: "Daniel L. Concho Smith" <hrd7@lycos.com>
To: <hist_text@lists.xmission.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 11:46 AM
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: I was out of line
> Thanks Jones,
>
> Crap - so much for what I was going to sell.
>
> Concho [HRD]
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Historical Research & Development
> "ANISCHIK"(is how the Moravians saw it) THANK YOU.
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
> On Thu, 11 Jul 2002 10:03:25
> Paul Jones wrote:
> >Certainly, Frank, we continue to be interested in quality items,
however, nothing from lame one-armed trappers is acceptable.
>
>
>
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Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 17:57:30 -0500
From: John Kramer <kramer@kramerize.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: I was out of line
Beaverboy,
JEEZ, nice polite, sensitive, mountaineers? The world has truly turned to
lukewarm pig poop.
Come on piss somebody off, its traditional.
John...
At 07:59 AM 7/11/02, you wrote:
>Dear List and Traprjon,
> I'm very sorry if I offended any lame, one-armed beaver trappers. I am
>now taking a mountainman sensitivity class. In the future we should refer
>to them as Mountainperson's as not to offend anyone. I don't think I used
>the word "stupid" in any of my post and never would. At least I'm not just
>trying to sell stuff on the list, you have to give some credit for that.
> Seriously, in the future I will be more polite and less of an arrogant
>smart aleck.
> They're just my opinions and I'm sticking to them. And thats the way
>my stick floats.
> Sincerely,
> Beaverboy
"Never ascribe to malice that which is
adequately explained by incompetence."
Napoleon Bonaparte.
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Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 19:42:30 -0400
From: "Tom Roberts" <flint54@cfl.rr.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Booming What?
Beaverboy,
Does this explanation also work?
"Mount Hood is also one of the major volcanoes of the Cascade Range, having
erupted repeatedly for hundreds of thousands of years, most recently during
two episodes in the past 1,500 years. The last episode ended shortly before
the arrival of Lewis and Clark in 1805."
Volcano Hazards in the Mount Hood Region, Oregon
- -- W. E. Scott, T. C. Pierson, S. P. Schilling, J. E. Costa, C. A. Gardner,
J. W. Vallance, and J. J. Major, 1997, Volcano Hazards in the Mount Hood
Region, Oregon: USGS Open-File Report 97-89
Don't know if the sound would travel that far (500 miles).
Or was it just members of the Corps off in the brush "doing their business"
and firing off a round or 2 to chase off bear? <G>
Colter first? Early perhaps, but first?
Tom
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Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 9:14 AM
Subject: MtMan-List: Booming Sands?!
> On July 4th 1805 Meriweather Lewis wrote:
> " since our arrival at the falls (Great falls of the Missouri) we have
> repeatedly witnessed a nois............as loud and resembling precisely
> the discharge of a piece of ordinance of 6 pounds at the distance of 3
> miles.......this, being sometime heard only once and at other times, six
> or seven discharges in quick succession. it is heard also at different
> seasons of the day and night. I am at a loss to account for this
> phenomenon."
> This is the last great mystery of the Corps of Discovery. I have
> solved the mystery but was wondering what other people on the list think
> the cause was. I've heard just about everything so far but my explaination
> is the only one that works. And I have proof.
> John Colter was ,by the way, the first American Mountainperson.
> Beaverboy
>
>
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Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 19:21:39 -0600 (MDT)
From: <beaverboy@sofast.net>
Subject: MtMan-List: Booming Volcanoes?
Dear Tom and List,
Colter was the first American to come back for the sole purpose to
trap beaver wasn't he?(he never actually left, he turned around at the
Mandan villages after being honorably discharged) I mean the first
American truly near the mountains. There were many white people in the
midwest at that time but I don't think many of them made it past the
confluence of the Yellowstone and the Missouri prior to 1804. The French
named the Yellowstone as everyone knows but even the french never made it
west of the Bighorns prior to 1804. (at least its not recorded, is it?) So
I would think that John Colter (MY HERO!) was the first American
Mountainman (yes! I said Mountain MAN not person and it felt great!)
Booming Sand is said to be sand dunes that suddenly shift and create
a booming sound? Yeah, I know, not too likely. Volcanoes? No. It occurred
much too often and there are no active volcanoes anywhere in earshot of
the Great Falls. But thank you for your input.
As I said, I discovered the cause of this mysterious noise while
beaver trapping 3 miles from the Great Falls. This is the greatest
discovery of the epic voyage since Clarks name was found on Pompey's
Pillar. I will disclose the answer after I get some feedback from the
list. I've already discussed my discovery with 3 L&C scholars including
Gary Moultan and all were quite amazed with this huge find. The mystery is
over!
Beaverboy
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Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 20:41:59 -0700
From: "larry pendleton" <yrrw@airmail.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: I was out of line
Come on piss somebody off, its traditional.
John...
>>John,
I don't know about you, but I'm headin for the medicine cabinet. There's
gotta be some Pepto there. The crap on here lately leaves a taste in my
mouth that reminds me of a VERY BAD Mexican Restaurant !
Pendleton
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Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 18:52:55 -0700
From: JW Stephens <lray@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Booming Volcanoes?
Beaverboy ... my hero! <G> (don't break arm patting self on back)
beaverboy@sofast.net wrote:
>
> The mystery is
> over!
> Beaverboy
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Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 21:06:19 -0700
From: "larry pendleton" <yrrw@airmail.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: I was out of line
Beaver Boy,
I normally don't respond to anyone who doesn't have the common courtesy to
sign their posts with their own name, but in your case I'm going to make an
exception.
For your information, using a trap and chain to hang a pot over the fire
on a tripod would have absolutely no effect on the springs. Unless of
course the trapper was fool enough to build a fire large enough to burn the
tripod down and only then if the trap laid in the fire for an extended
length of time. Which is about as likely as me winning the Lotto ! ! ! ! !
!
If you don't mind, figure out the difference between Shit and Shineola,
then share your knowledge with us.
Pendleton #1572
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Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 20:03:02 -0600 (MDT)
From: <beaverboy@sofast.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Booming Volcanoes?
> Beaverboy ... my hero! <G> (don't break arm patting self on back)
> What did I do now? There's just no pleasing this crowd. Beaverboy
> beaverboy@sofast.net wrote:
>>
>> The mystery is
>> over!
>> Beaverboy
>
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Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 21:05:04 -0500
From: "Paul Jones" <pwjones@myexcel.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: I was out of line
Larry,
Please be nice. Otherwise he will not share his discovery, and we shall
remain, together with all of the L&C experts, forever in the dark?
Pablo
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> Beaver Boy,
> I normally don't respond to anyone who doesn't have the common courtesy
to
> sign their posts with their own name, but in your case I'm going to make
an
> exception.
> For your information, using a trap and chain to hang a pot over the fire
> on a tripod would have absolutely no effect on the springs. Unless of
> course the trapper was fool enough to build a fire large enough to burn
the
> tripod down and only then if the trap laid in the fire for an extended
> length of time. Which is about as likely as me winning the Lotto ! ! ! !
!
> !
> If you don't mind, figure out the difference between Shit and Shineola,
> then share your knowledge with us.
> Pendleton #1572
>
>
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Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 19:14:14 -0700
From: Pat Quilter <pat_quilter@qscaudio.com>
Subject: RE: MtMan-List: Booming Volcanoes?
I'll jump in to keep the conversation going. My guess, not too consistent
with some of the clues, is that a whirlpool or repeating wave formation
associated with the falls occasionally collapses with a loud whop. I
occasionally hear remarkable "explosions" from a nearby beach when a
well-formed wave smacks down all at once. However I doubt that this would
produce a solid enough report to sound like a "6-lb cannon at 3 miles". My
other guess is some kind of balanced rock crashing back and forth
occasionally, or some kind of blowhole that traps air that somehow releases
explosively, but I doubt if such a critically tuned formation would last
long enough to be observed today. The last wild guess is a geyserlike event,
but I don't know if there are thermal vents nearby.
An interesting mystery.
Pat Quilter
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Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 6:22 PM
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Subject: MtMan-List: Booming Volcanoes?
Dear Tom and List,
Colter was the first American to come back for the sole purpose to
trap beaver wasn't he?(he never actually left, he turned around at the
Mandan villages after being honorably discharged) I mean the first
American truly near the mountains. There were many white people in the
midwest at that time but I don't think many of them made it past the
confluence of the Yellowstone and the Missouri prior to 1804. The French
named the Yellowstone as everyone knows but even the french never made it
west of the Bighorns prior to 1804. (at least its not recorded, is it?) So
I would think that John Colter (MY HERO!) was the first American
Mountainman (yes! I said Mountain MAN not person and it felt great!)
Booming Sand is said to be sand dunes that suddenly shift and create
a booming sound? Yeah, I know, not too likely. Volcanoes? No. It occurred
much too often and there are no active volcanoes anywhere in earshot of
the Great Falls. But thank you for your input.
As I said, I discovered the cause of this mysterious noise while
beaver trapping 3 miles from the Great Falls. This is the greatest
discovery of the epic voyage since Clarks name was found on Pompey's
Pillar. I will disclose the answer after I get some feedback from the
list. I've already discussed my discovery with 3 L&C scholars including
Gary Moultan and all were quite amazed with this huge find. The mystery is
over!
Beaverboy
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Dear Larry,
Thank you for your input on the Great Trap Cooking contraversy! In
Gerstell's outstanding book "The Steel Trap in North America" (In my now
humbled opinion, the greatest book written on the steel trap) on page 122
under the paragraph titled "Odd uses for traps and trap chains" he list ALL
known uses of traps used during the era. Including three written records
of trap chains (while still attached to the traps) as being used to bind
prisoners including two indians who were accused of killing Hugh Glass.
Cooking was not listed, though possible I suppose, as anything is
possible. I just said that no real trapper would ever put his trap
anywhere near a fire, why take a chance. But again that is just my humbled
opinion.
This is an excellent book on the subject. It also gives many accounts
(documented) of trappers trapping beaver in the summer time and late
spring, early fall and others times not ever considered prime fur time.
The book can be puchased from F-F-G at (614)231-9585 for $64.95. I do not
make a dime off of this sale. Every list member should own and read this
great book if you don't own it already.
Sincerely,
Beaverboy
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Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 20:47:27 -0600 (MDT)
From: <beaverboy@sofast.net>
Subject: MtMan-List: Booming water? Well, almost.
Dear Pat,
Excellent assumption! Did you read the full account by Lewis? He
assummed it was caused by water as well. Unfortunately its not the correct
answer.(based on my discovery) Thank you for your input. Any more guesses
or thoeries? Remember folks its under July 4th, 1805 of the L&C Journals.
Beaverboy
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Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 22:50:54 -0400
From: "Tom Roberts" <flint54@cfl.rr.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: I was out of line
Larry,
Was wondering the same about chain. I hang my pot from some type of cordage
or branch without so much as a scorch. Of course there's no value lost,
other than a meal perhaps, if it were to fall. Not sure I would use
something of value like a trap & chain, unless that were no rocks or sticks
about, but I think you're right that the effect would be nil as long as it
was kept away from the coals.
Tom
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From: "larry pendleton" <yrrw@airmail.net>
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Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 12:06 AM
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: I was out of line
> Beaver Boy,
> ........................using a trap and chain to hang a pot over the
fire
> on a tripod would have absolutely no effect on the springs. Unless of
> course the trapper was fool enough to build a fire large enough to burn
the
> tripod down and only then if the trap laid in the fire for an extended
> length of time. Which is about as likely as me winning the Lotto ! ! ! !
!
> Pendleton #1572
>
>
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