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From: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com (hist_text-digest) To: hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: hist_text-digest V1 #1053 Reply-To: hist_text Sender: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk hist_text-digest Thursday, July 4 2002 Volume 01 : Number 1053 In this issue: -áááááá MtMan-List: RMNR cancelled -áááááá MtMan-List: Oil Cloth -áááááá MtMan-List: Oil Cloth -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Fred Gowans in Pinedale -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Fred Gowans in Pinedale -áááááá MtMan-List: journal entries for the 4th -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: journal entries for the 4th -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: journal entries for the 4th -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: journal entries for the 4th -áááááá MtMan-List: Happy 4th of July -áááááá Fw: MtMan-List: journal entries for the 4th -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Oil Cloth -áááááá MtMan-List: Refinance and Save $$$ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 15:57:28 -0500 From: "Frank Fusco" <Rifleman1776@centurytel.net> Subject: MtMan-List: RMNR cancelled Following received from an Arkansas list I subscribe to. <I just received word from one of the organizers of this year's Rocky Mountain National Rendezvous that the event at Elk Park, Utah has been cancelled. It was set to start next week. Our United States Forest Circus has closed the national forest where it was to be held because it is too dry and has some fires in that area.> I had no plans to attend but thought this might be of interest if anyone on this list was. Frank G. Fusco Mountain Home, Arkansas http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/ozarksmuzzleloaders - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 16:06:25 -0600 From: "Gene Hickman" <ghickman9@attbi.com> Subject: MtMan-List: Oil Cloth Does anyone have a good formula for making oil cloth? I want to use it on linen, hemp or perhaps canvas. I have used the linseed oil and iron oxide mix on canvas and linen now I want to make oil cloth. Thanks. Gene "Bead Shooter" Hickman - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 16:07:28 -0600 From: "Gene Hickman" <ghickman9@attbi.com> Subject: MtMan-List: Oil Cloth This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C221E2.8FEA07C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Does anyone have a good formula for making oil cloth? I want to use it = on linen, hemp or perhaps canvas. I have used the linseed oil and iron = oxide mix on canvas and linen now I want to make oil cloth. Thanks. Gene "Bead Shooter" Hickman - ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C221E2.8FEA07C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.50.4728.2300" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> <DIV>Does anyone have a good formula for making oil cloth? I want to use = it on=20 linen, hemp or perhaps canvas. I have used the linseed oil and iron = oxide=20 mix on canvas and linen now I want to make oil cloth. Thanks.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Gene "Bead Shooter" Hickman</DIV></FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML> - ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C221E2.8FEA07C0-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 22:24:13 EDT From: Mtnman1449@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Fred Gowans in Pinedale - --part1_9a.27e6d485.2a53ba4d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Heard his talk and did his tour a number of years ago. VERY worth whatever amount the entrance fee is. Fred knows his stuff!! Patrick J. Surrena Jim Baker Party, The American Mountain Men, #1449 Colorado - --part1_9a.27e6d485.2a53ba4d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>Heard his talk and did his tour a number of years ago. VERY worth whatever amount the entrance fee is. Fred knows his stuff!!<BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR="#800000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">Patrick J. Surrena<BR> Jim Baker Party, The American Mountain Men, #1449<BR> Colorado</FONT></HTML> - --part1_9a.27e6d485.2a53ba4d_boundary-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 21:44:08 -0600 From: Todd Glover <tetontodd@juno.com> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Fred Gowans in Pinedale This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. - ----__JNP_000_5936.6564.7a6a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Pat, Don't recall seeing you around these parts for a long spell. You been back in the shadows all this time? Missed you at the rendezvous...were you hiding there also? Teton (We met at Pinedale in 97?) On Tue, 2 Jul 2002 22:24:13 EDT Mtnman1449@aol.com writes: Heard his talk and did his tour a number of years ago. VERY worth whatever amount the entrance fee is. Fred knows his stuff!! Patrick J. Surrena Jim Baker Party, The American Mountain Men, #1449 Colorado "Teton" Todd D. Glover #1784 http://poisonriverparty.homestead.com/TetonTodd.html - ----__JNP_000_5936.6564.7a6a Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1" http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.00.2614.3500" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV>Pat,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Don't recall seeing you around these parts for a long spell. You been = back=20 in the shadows all this time?</DIV> <DIV>Missed you at the rendezvous...were you hiding there also?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Teton</DIV> <DIV>(We met at Pinedale in 97?)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>On Tue, 2 Jul 2002 22:24:13 EDT <A=20 href=3D"mailto:Mtnman1449@aol.com">Mtnman1449@aol.com</A> writes:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 10px; PADDING-LEFT: = 10px"> <DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT size=3D2>Heard his talk and did = his tour a=20 number of years ago. VERY worth whatever amount the entrance fee=20 is. Fred knows his stuff!!<BR><BR></FONT><FONT color=3D#800000 face= =3DArial=20 lang=3D0 size=3D3 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF= ">Patrick J.=20 Surrena<BR>Jim Baker Party, The American Mountain Men,=20 #1449<BR>Colorado</FONT> </FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>"Teton" Todd D. Glover=20 #1784<BR>http://poisonriverparty.homestead.com/TetonTodd.html<BR></BODY></= HTML> - ----__JNP_000_5936.6564.7a6a-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2002 16:00:45 -0600 From: Mike Moore <amm1616@earthlink.net> Subject: MtMan-List: journal entries for the 4th With this great day in American history, here are a few good journal entries which tell what life was like in the fur trade: Fourth of July, Calm, misty, silent. In the bottom of my saddle bags, rolled in a handkerchief, was a flag given me by pop Hamilton Boden, and by the time the haze had gone, it floated in the breeze, from the top of the highest tree near our camp; nature was all in a smile, and we prepared to spend the day according to our various inclinations. Some slept, some basked in indolence, some started off to look for game, some looked to their saddle bags and blankets; all was rest, at least from travel, and I unpacked my paper and pencils and made a sketch of the ôfourth of July campöà When evening came, mess No. 4, all good singers, gave us some beautiful choruses from operas, as well as simpler songs, and at night brought the solemn quite, and the moon glided in its ordained course, ôOld Hundredö was sung with the most solemn feelings of reverence and adoration. John Audubon, pp. 116-7. July 4th We traveled a short distance today when on arriving at a large spring of most delicious water situated in a beautiful grove, where we concluded to spend the National Anniversary of American Independence; and accordingly our hunters went out in the afternoon and killed several buffalo, which were dressed and the choice parts prepared for a grand feast tomorrow. When the morn of the glorious forth first dawned we gave three salutes, spent the morning in various kinds of amusement and at noon partook of our national dinner, which was relished the better as we had a small portion of good old brandy, which we drank in a few minutes, deeply regretting that we had not small portion of what was that day destroyed by the millions of freemen in the states.- The remainder of the day was celebrated by drinking toasts, singing songs, shooting at mark, running, jumping and practicing on our horses- having the two Spaniards with us, who learned us many singular pranks, and were a variable addition to our company, as they created a great deal of fun and were always in good humor. Zenas Leonard, p. 216-7. July 4th Our boat [bull boat] being completed, we loaded it with the baggage and crossed to the other side, but on returning we ran into some brush, then it instantly filled and sunk à we now commenced making a raft of logs that had drifted on the island, on this we put our remainder of equipment, 10 of us started with it for the other side but we no sooner reached the rapid current than our raft became unmanageable and all efforts to reach the other side were vain and fearing lest we should run on to the dreadful rapids to which we were fast approaching, we abandoned the raft and committed our selves to the mercy of the current. We being tolerable good swimmers, excepting myself, I would fain have called for help, but at this critical period every one had to shift for himself, fortunately I scrambled to the shore among the last swimmers. We were now on the side from when we started without a single article of bedding except an old cloth tent whilst the rain poured incessantly. Fortunately we had built a large fire previous to our departure on the raft, which was still burning. I began to reflect on the miserable condition of myself and those around me, without clothing, provisions or fire arms and drenched to the skin with rain. I thought of those who were perhaps at this moment celebrating the anniversary of our Independence in my native land or seated around tables loaded with richest dainties that a rich independent and enlightened country could afford or perhaps collected in gay saloons relating the heroic deeds of our ancestors or joining in the nimble dance forgetful of cares and toils whist here presented a group of human beings crouched round a fire which the rain was fast diminishing, mediating on their deplorable condition, not knowing at what moment we might be aroused by the shrill war cry of the hostile savages with which the country was infested, whilst not an article for defense except our butcher knifes remained in our procession. The night at length came on and we lay down to await the events of the morrow, day light appeared and we started down along the shore in hopes of finding something that might get loose from the raft and drift upon the beach- we had not gone a mile when we discovered the raft lodged upon a gravel bar which projected from a island where it had been driven by the current. We hastened through the water waist deep to the spot where tour great surprise and satisfaction we found everything safe upon the raft in the same manner we had left it. Osborne Russell, pps. 18-9. July 4th I caught about 20 very fine salmon trout which together with fat mutton buffalo beef and coffee and the manner in which it was served up constituted a dinner that ought to be considered independent by even by the Britons. Osborne Russell, p. 97. July 4th, Pawnee Fork. Saturday. What a disastrous celebration I have today. It is certainly the greatest miracle that I have my head on my shoulders. I think I can never forget it if I live to be as old as my grandmother. The wagons left Pawnee Rock some time before us. ùFor I was anxious to see this wonderful curiosity. We went up and while mi alma with his gun and pistols kept watch, for the wily Indian may always be apprehended here, it is a good lurking place and they are ever ready to fall upon any unfortunate trader behind his companyùand it is necessary to be careful, so while mi alma watched on the rock above and Jane stood by to watch if any should come up on the front side of me, I cut my name, among the many hundreds inscribed on the rock and many of whom I knew. It was not done well, for fear of Indians made me tremble all over and I hurried it over in any way. This I remarked would be quite an adventure to celebrate the 4th! but woe betide I have yet another to relate. The wagons being some distance ahead we rode on quite briskly to overtake them. In an hourÆs time we had driven some six miles, and at Ash Creek we came up with them. No water in the creek and the crossing pretty good only a tolerably steep bank on the first side of it, all but two had passed over, and as these were not up we drove on ahead of them to cross first. The bank though a little steep was smooth and there could be no difficulty in riding down it. ù However, we had made up our minds always to walk down such places in case of accident, and before we got to it mi alma hallowed ôwoeö as he always does when he wishes to stop, but as there was no motion made by the driver to that effect, he repeated it several times and with much vehemence. We had now reached the very verge of the cliff and seeing it a good way and apparently less dangerous than jumping out as we were, he said ôgo on.ö The word was scarcely from his lips, ere we were whirled completely over with a perfect crash. One to see the wreck of that carriage now with the top and sides entirely broken to pieces, could never believe that people had come out of it alive. But strange, wonderful to say, we are almost entirely unhurt! I was considerably stunned at first and could not stand on my feet. Mi alma forgetting himself and entirely enlisted for my safety carried me in his arms to a shade tree, almost entirely without my knowledge, and rubbing my face and hands with whiskey soon brought me entire to myself. ù My back and side are a little hurt, but is very small compared with what it might have been. Mi alma has his left hip and arm on which he fell both bruised and strained, but not seriously. Dear creature Ætwas for me he received this, for had he not caught me in his arms as we fell he could have saved himself entirely. And then I should perhaps have been killed or much crushed for the top fell over me, and it was only his hands that kept it off of me. It is better as it is, for we can sympathize more fully with each other. Susan Magoffin, pps. 40 û 41. 4th of July, the sun rose in pale misty majesty and was saluted by Several guns forum those out on the morning watch Soon after the Stars & Stripes floated in the Breeze the American Jubilee was but little further noticed than that the star Spangled Banner floated from Esqr. RolandÆs wagon throughout the day. James Clyman, p. 89. July 4, The sun arose in his usual majestic splendor no firing of canon was heard no flags waving to the early morning Breeze. Nothing no nothing heard but the occasional howl of the wolf or the hoarse croak of the raven nothing seen But the green wide spread Prairie and the shallow wide spread river [Platte] rolling its disturbed muddy waters far to the East the only relief is the on rising ground occasionally doted with a few straggling male Buffalo and one Lonely Junt of a cotton wood Tree some miles down the stream the only occupant of a small low Island (not much variety) O my country and my Country men the rich smiling surface of on[e] and the glad some Shouts of the other Here we are 8 men 2 women and one boy this day entering into an enemies country who if possible will Butcher every individual or at least strip us of every means of comfort or convenience and leave us to make our tiresome way to relief and this immediately on your frontier and under the eye of a strong Military post The day proved very still and warm and we overtook a small party of Emigrants that ware ahead consisting of seven men 2 young Ladies and one very sick man some of their company having left them an hour before our arrival on account of their slow traveling The eight men that had parted from these in their defenseless state intended to make a rapid Push and travel day and night until they passed the Pawnee Territory. James Clyman, p. 262. I hope the day finds all of you in good health, good spirits and thankful to be living in a good country. mike. - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 19:09:26 EDT From: SWzypher@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: journal entries for the 4th In a message dated 7/3/02 4:04:58 PM, amm1616@earthlink.net writes: << With this great day in American history, here are a few good journal entries which tell what life was like in the fur trade:>> Mike This was a good message. Thanks for taking the time. I'm keeping a copy of this one. Dick James - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 22:11:48 -0500 From: "Lanney Ratcliff" <lanneyratcliff@charter.net> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: journal entries for the 4th Mike Moore shared with us some July 4th journal entries, including the following: When evening came, mess No. 4, all good singers, gave us some beautiful choruses from operas, as well as simpler songs, and at night brought the solemn quite, and the moon glided in its ordained course, "Old Hundred" was sung with the most solemn feelings of reverence and adoration. John Audubon, pp. 116-7 Click on the first link to hear a portion of Old Hundred recorded in 1958. The second link appears to be a 1920 recording and I would wager that it sounds more like the rendition offered by the 4th mess. Listening to this ancient hymn took me back in time as surely as a time machine. I swear I could smell the smoke from the fires from the various messes. See if it does the same for you.....scroll down on each page to find the old hymn. It's worth the trouble. http://www.lib.virginia.edu/speccol/exhibits/music/audio.html http://www2.nlc-bnc.ca/gramophone/plsql/browse.display_titles?bet=O&lang=e Here is more about it: ld Hundredth(Amer. Old Hundred) Metrical psalm tune of uncertain origin. Its name indicates that it was set to the 100th psalm in the `old' version of the metrical psalms, i.e. Sternhold and Hopkins as distinct from Tate and Brady. The edn. of this version in which it first appeared was Daye's of 1560-1, where it was set to the words `All people that on earth do dwell' by W. Kethe. But the history of the tune goes back to Marot and BΘza's Genevan Psalter of 1551, in which it is attached to the 134th psalm. An even earlier form of the tune appears in the Antwerp collection Souter Liederkens (1540). A ceremonial arr. of the tune for ch., congregation, orch., organ, and `all available trumpets' was made by Vaughan Williams for the coronation of Elizabeth II, 1953. (It was also perf. at his funeral in Westminster Abbey, 1958.) The Oxford Dictionary of Music, ⌐ Oxford University Press 1994 - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 23:27:33 -0600 From: "John L. Allen" <jlallen@wyoming.com> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: journal entries for the 4th Lanney and the list: The "Old Hundred" is actually the "Old 100th" (an older version of the 100th psalm) written by the Calvinist Louis Bourgeois written sometime before 1551 as it appeared in the Genevan Psalter of that year. The lyrics are attributed to another Calvinist, William Kethe, who wrote them between 1551 and 1561 since both Bourgeois' melody and Kethe's lyrics appear in the Fourscore and Seven Psalms of David (Geneva, 1561). A new version of Kethe's lyrics was written in 1674 by Thomas Ken, an Anglican priest, and the last stanza of Ken's lyrics, along with Bourgeois' melody, now forms probably the best known and most sung piece of liturgical music in Christian churches, both Catholic and Protestant. We call it "the Doxology": Praise God, from Whom all blessings flow; Praise Him, all creatures here below; Praise Him above, ye heavenly host; Praise Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. (Does it sound really familiar to you now? The "Old Hundred" is still a major part of Sunday worship all over the English speaking world.) Sorry to have to correct/clarify the Oxford Musical Dictionary on this one but just because it has "Oxford" in the title doesn't mean it's always right. And you guys thought I just knew something about Lewis and Clark! Happy 4th of July and God Bless the United States of America. John Dr. John L. Allen 2703 Leslie Court Laramie, WY 82072-2979 Phone: (307) 742-0883 Fax: (307) 742-0886 e-mail: jlallen@wyoming.com - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lanney Ratcliff" <lanneyratcliff@charter.net> To: <hist_text@lists.xmission.com>; "AMM" <ammlist@lists.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 9:11 PM Subject: Re: MtMan-List: journal entries for the 4th > Mike Moore shared with us some July 4th journal entries, including the > following: > > When evening came, mess No. 4, all good singers, gave us some > beautiful choruses from operas, as well as simpler songs, and at night > brought the solemn quite, and the moon glided in its ordained course, > "Old Hundred" was sung with the most solemn feelings of reverence and > adoration. > John Audubon, pp. 116-7 > > Click on the first link to hear a portion of Old Hundred recorded in 1958. > The second link appears to be a 1920 recording and I would wager that it > sounds more like the rendition offered by the 4th mess. Listening to this > ancient hymn took me back in time as surely as a time machine. I swear I > could smell the smoke from the fires from the various messes. See if it > does the same for you.....scroll down on each page to find the old hymn. > It's worth the trouble. > > http://www.lib.virginia.edu/speccol/exhibits/music/audio.html > > http://www2.nlc-bnc.ca/gramophone/plsql/browse.display_titles?bet=O&lang=e > > Here is more about it: > ld Hundredth(Amer. Old Hundred) > > > > Metrical psalm tune of uncertain origin. Its name indicates that it was set > to the 100th psalm in the `old' version of the metrical psalms, i.e. > Sternhold and Hopkins as distinct from Tate and Brady. The edn. of this > version in which it first appeared was Daye's of 1560-1, where it was set to > the words `All people that on earth do dwell' by W. Kethe. But the history > of the tune goes back to Marot and BΘza's Genevan Psalter of 1551, in which > it is attached to the 134th psalm. An even earlier form of the tune appears > in the Antwerp collection Souter Liederkens (1540). A ceremonial arr. of the > tune for ch., congregation, orch., organ, and `all available trumpets' was > made by Vaughan Williams for the coronation of Elizabeth II, 1953. (It was > also perf. at his funeral in Westminster Abbey, 1958.) > > > The Oxford Dictionary of Music, ⌐ Oxford University Press 1994 > > > > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2002 06:49:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Ronald Schrotter <mail4dog@yahoo.com> Subject: MtMan-List: Happy 4th of July HURRAH FOR OLD GLORY! LONG MAY SHE WAVE! Be safe all, and enjoy the freedoms we've gathered over the last 226 years. Raise a glass to those who came before, and another to those who will follow. Happy 4th of July! Dog __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2002 11:50:46 -0500 From: "Lanney Ratcliff" <lanneyratcliff@charter.net> Subject: Fw: MtMan-List: journal entries for the 4th That is good information John. I have heard the four lines of the Doxology countless times but I can't recall ever hearing the entire song, either in it's older version or with the words written by Ken. I wonder what the fourth mess sang? I have my own guess, but that's all it is. Here is a tiny bit more information: http://www.cyberhymnal.org/htm/p/r/praisegf.htm Have a safe and joyous Independence Day. Don't let your guard down for anything the Bad Guys might pull, but don't hide under the bed either. We are having BBQ brisket and pig ribs, potato salad, chipotle seasoned pinto beans, a chocolate whiskey cake and gallons of iced tea. Wish all of you were here helping us celebrate. Later I will fly my copy of the thirteen star Bennington flag http://www.benningtonmuseum.com/flaghistory.html and about dusk I'll go out the cemetery to visit my Dad. Gonna be a good day. Lanney - ----- Original Message ----- From: "John L. Allen" <jlallen@wyoming.com> To: <hist_text@lists.xmission.com> Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2002 12:27 AM Subject: Re: MtMan-List: journal entries for the 4th > Lanney and the list: > > The "Old Hundred" is actually the "Old 100th" (an older version of the 100th > psalm) written by the Calvinist Louis Bourgeois written sometime before 1551 > as it appeared in the Genevan Psalter of that year. The lyrics are > attributed to another Calvinist, William Kethe, who wrote them between 1551 > and 1561 since both Bourgeois' melody and Kethe's lyrics appear in the > Fourscore and Seven Psalms of David (Geneva, 1561). > > A new version of Kethe's lyrics was written in 1674 by Thomas Ken, an > Anglican priest, and the last stanza of Ken's lyrics, along with Bourgeois' > melody, now forms probably the best known and most sung piece of liturgical > music in Christian churches, both Catholic and Protestant. We call it "the > Doxology": > > Praise God, from Whom all blessings flow; > Praise Him, all creatures here below; > Praise Him above, ye heavenly host; > Praise Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. > > (Does it sound really familiar to you now? The "Old Hundred" is still a > major part of Sunday worship all over the English speaking world.) > > Sorry to have to correct/clarify the Oxford Musical Dictionary on this one > but just because it has "Oxford" in the title doesn't mean it's always > right. > > And you guys thought I just knew something about Lewis and Clark! > > Happy 4th of July and God Bless the United States of America. > > John > > Dr. John L. Allen > 2703 Leslie Court > Laramie, WY 82072-2979 > Phone: (307) 742-0883 > Fax: (307) 742-0886 > e-mail: jlallen@wyoming.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lanney Ratcliff" <lanneyratcliff@charter.net> > To: <hist_text@lists.xmission.com>; "AMM" <ammlist@lists.xmission.com> > Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 9:11 PM > Subject: Re: MtMan-List: journal entries for the 4th > > > > Mike Moore shared with us some July 4th journal entries, including the > > following: > > > > When evening came, mess No. 4, all good singers, gave us some > > beautiful choruses from operas, as well as simpler songs, and at night > > brought the solemn quite, and the moon glided in its ordained course, > > "Old Hundred" was sung with the most solemn feelings of reverence and > > adoration. > > John Audubon, pp. 116-7 > > > > Click on the first link to hear a portion of Old Hundred recorded in 1958. > > The second link appears to be a 1920 recording and I would wager that it > > sounds more like the rendition offered by the 4th mess. Listening to this > > ancient hymn took me back in time as surely as a time machine. I swear I > > could smell the smoke from the fires from the various messes. See if it > > does the same for you.....scroll down on each page to find the old hymn. > > It's worth the trouble. > > > > http://www.lib.virginia.edu/speccol/exhibits/music/audio.html > > > > http://www2.nlc-bnc.ca/gramophone/plsql/browse.display_titles?bet=O&lang=e > > > > Here is more about it: > > ld Hundredth(Amer. Old Hundred) > > > > > > > > Metrical psalm tune of uncertain origin. Its name indicates that it was > set > > to the 100th psalm in the `old' version of the metrical psalms, i.e. > > Sternhold and Hopkins as distinct from Tate and Brady. The edn. of this > > version in which it first appeared was Daye's of 1560-1, where it was set > to > > the words `All people that on earth do dwell' by W. Kethe. But the history > > of the tune goes back to Marot and BΘza's Genevan Psalter of 1551, in > which > > it is attached to the 134th psalm. An even earlier form of the tune > appears > > in the Antwerp collection Souter Liederkens (1540). A ceremonial arr. of > the > > tune for ch., congregation, orch., organ, and `all available trumpets' was > > made by Vaughan Williams for the coronation of Elizabeth II, 1953. (It was > > also perf. at his funeral in Westminster Abbey, 1958.) > > > > > > The Oxford Dictionary of Music, ⌐ Oxford University Press 1994 > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------- > > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > > > > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Jul 2002 17:19:09 +0000 From: "Catahoula V" <catahoulav@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Oil Cloth Gene, I have used a mixture of 1 part boiled linseed oil, 2 parts turpentine, and 1 wax commode bowl ring melted together. I dye my canvas first then saturate the dryed cloth with the mixture. It takes several days for the cloth to dry, but I have made water buckets from the resulting cloth with much sucess. Catahoula >From: "Gene Hickman" <ghickman9@attbi.com> >Reply-To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com >To: <hist_text@lists.xmission.com> >Subject: MtMan-List: Oil Cloth >Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 16:07:28 -0600 > >Does anyone have a good formula for making oil cloth? I want to use it on >linen, hemp or perhaps canvas. I have used the linseed oil and iron oxide >mix on canvas and linen now I want to make oil cloth. 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