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From: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com (hist_text-digest) To: hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: hist_text-digest V1 #1047 Reply-To: hist_text Sender: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk hist_text-digest Thursday, June 20 2002 Volume 01 : Number 1047 In this issue: -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: buff hunt -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: The Great Buffalo Hunt Raffle -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: buff hunt -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Alfred J. Miller -áááááá MtMan-List: Sparkless Frizzen -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Sparkless Frizzen -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: buff hunt -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Sparkless Frizzen -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Sparkless Frizzen -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Sparkless Frizzen -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Sparkless Frizzen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 06:38:27 -0700 From: "Daniel L. "Concho" Smith" <hrd7@lycos.com> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: buff hunt I'm surprised Frank stood for all the trouble. Should have taken back and got a replacement barrel. Concho [HRD] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Historical Research & Development "ANISCHIK"(is how the Moravians saw it) THANK YOU. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Double Edge forge http://www.bright.net/~deforge1 Buck's Base Camp: http://buckconner.tripod.com/ Historical Research & Development: http://hrd7.tripod.com/ See the AMM site for more supporters of this event. On Wed, 19 Jun 2002 01:36:15 hawknest4 wrote: >concho >franks gun was originally built by a "Known maker" no names will be >said--- and he dun the number on her---to put in the front screw of the >lock he cut into the barrel where it only had .060 left---i had to cut >it down and rebreach it then make a piece of wood that that would fit >that had not been inletted by a one chizzel gunsmith---and the lock even >dixie would be the only one to sell it---rebuilt and remade it from >scratch---turned out to be the fastest thing i ever saw---after several >days of machining and fileing parts---frank was pretty nice about the >problems at hand so we put some nice wood to it---did a bit of gouging >with my yellow handel case knife---layed some silver fish in the butstock >very tastefully of course--some small scratching on them ---tried to >maintain triditional yeager lines---did a bit of panneling on the >forstock---made a ebony nosecap and all this was for a trade deal no >less---removed the old sights ---put some new ones in that actually fit >the slots and didnt move using your hand --had to hand make the >front---throwed a bit of acid on it to age it a bit sprinkeled som of >kramers finest on it for class ---did 17 indian chants to make the bad >spirits go away---took it to the range in the white threatening to use it >as a mater stake ---then plopped off a sighter---kicked the >sights---cussed the name jaeger---BTW I am not allowed to be spoken in >this house now according to the better half because of all the other >ajatives usually included---plopped about 20 shots down range looking for > a good powder charge and groop---found what it liked---talked to the >wicked witch of the west explaining the future fait of the witch and >popped off 5 more rounds just to see if it was worth putting the finish >on---kina funny---it cut holes in the right place ---and even close >together---slapped some finish on it and got it out of the shop befor it >put a hex on any other project i was working on---frank tried it and shot >almost the same place i did---do guess i did ok---for a left over matter >stake---frank took a bit of ragging real well on it too before it got >delivered ---when he got it he didnt know what to expect i dont >think---kina like my match gun that pappy horn and dale black made for me >in about 30 minits to give to me at okay valley one year > >Nuff said--- > >HAWK--- > >________________________________________________________________ >GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! >Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! >Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: >http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. > >---------------------- >hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > _________________________________________ Communicate with others using Lycos Mail for FREE! http://mail.lycos.com/ - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 06:44:07 -0700 From: "Daniel L. "Concho" Smith" <hrd7@lycos.com> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: The Great Buffalo Hunt Raffle Magpie, "Spit" wouldn't work with Miles around, may need to go lower like wipe your clout on them with it inside out. Concho [HRD] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Historical Research & Development "ANISCHIK"(is how the Moravians saw it) THANK YOU. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Double Edge forge http://www.bright.net/~deforge1 Buck's Base Camp: http://buckconner.tripod.com/ Historical Research & Development: http://hrd7.tripod.com/ See the AMM site for more supporters of this event. - ----------------------------------- On Mon, 17 Jun 2002 22:19:53 SWcushing wrote: > >In a message dated 6/17/02 10:09:49 AM, deforge1@bright.net writes: > ><> > >The theory still works because I gotta spit on my grub to keep Crawdad, Bead, and Capt Lahti from sneakin a bite when I ain't looking.... > >Nope, I don't eat entrails and bodins.....<G> > >Magpie > > >---------------------- _________________________________________ Communicate with others using Lycos Mail for FREE! http://mail.lycos.com/ - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 06:46:48 -0700 From: "Daniel L. "Concho" Smith" <hrd7@lycos.com> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: buff hunt I would hate to see what you where using in E.Asia to smoke through <GGG>. Concho [HRD] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Historical Research & Development "ANISCHIK"(is how the Moravians saw it) THANK YOU. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Double Edge forge http://www.bright.net/~deforge1 Buck's Base Camp: http://buckconner.tripod.com/ Historical Research & Development: http://hrd7.tripod.com/ See the AMM site for more supporters of this event. On Mon, 17 Jun 2002 22:01:28 Double Edge Forge wrote: >I was going to cut it into small pieces and make high $$ pipe hawks..<G> >NEVER leave me alone with a rifle or smoothie barrel..<BG> >D > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Daniel L. Concho Smith" <hrd7@lycos.com> >To: <hist_text@lists.xmission.com> >Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 9:59 PM >Subject: Re: MtMan-List: buff hunt > > >> I cut her in half and made mater stakes, damn nice ones too. >> >> Sorry >> >> Concho [HRD] >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> Historical Research & Development >> "ANISCHIK"(is how the Moravians saw it) THANK YOU. >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> Double Edge forge http://www.bright.net/~deforge1 >> Buck's Base Camp: http://buckconner.tripod.com/ >> Historical Research & Development: http://hrd7.tripod.com/ >> >> See the AMM site for more supporters of this event. >> ---------------------------------- >> >> On Mon, 17 Jun 2002 21:55:22 >> Double Edge Forge wrote: >> >Concho, >> > Send me my barrel. And she shoots right pert now.... >> >D >> > >> > >> >----- Original Message ----- >> >From: "Daniel L. Concho Smith" <hrd7@lycos.com> >> >To: <hist_text@lists.xmission.com> >> >Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 9:52 PM >> >Subject: Re: MtMan-List: buff hunt >> > >> > >> >> Hawk, >> >> >> >> I got the original barrel out of Dennis Miles' Mrs. Jager, she was a >> >smoothie at birth and like you say she too - "at one time was starting to >> >look like she would become a mater stake if she didnt change her >attitude", >> >that's when Buck had chnaged to a rifle gun. >> >> >> >> Concho [HRD] >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> Historical Research & Development >> >> "ANISCHIK"(is how the Moravians saw it) THANK YOU. >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> Double Edge forge http://www.bright.net/~deforge1 >> >> Buck's Base Camp: http://buckconner.tripod.com/ >> >> Historical Research & Development: http://hrd7.tripod.com/ >> >> >> >> See the AMM site for more supporters of this event. >> >> >> >> --------------------------------- >> >> On Tue, 18 Jun 2002 21:01:29 >> >> hawknest4 wrote: >> >> >we knew what you ment randel---no appology needed on this end---all in >> >> >good fun pard---But frank's gun does relly have a hex on it---trust >> >> >me---and frank knows what i mean---darn thing originally came with a >hant >> >> >attached but it will shoot and pretty fast for a rock gun too---dont >> >> >waste no time getting the ball down range to its mark and it dont look >> >> >too bad eather . at one time it was starting to look like it would >> >> >become a mater stake if it didnt change its attitude---(GBG) >> >> > >> >> >HAWK >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _________________________________________ >> >> Communicate with others using Lycos Mail for FREE! >> >> http://mail.lycos.com/ >> >> >> >> ---------------------- >> >> hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html >> >> >> > >> > >> >---------------------- >> >hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html >> > >> >> >> _________________________________________ >> Communicate with others using Lycos Mail for FREE! >> http://mail.lycos.com/ >> >> ---------------------- >> hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html >> > > >---------------------- >hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > _________________________________________ Communicate with others using Lycos Mail for FREE! http://mail.lycos.com/ - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 08:06:30 -0600 From: "Gene Hickman" <ghickman9@attbi.com> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Alfred J. Miller They do have one thumbnail of Miller's the Trapper's Bride, one Charles Bird King Thumbnail and two Karl Bodmer thumbnails. Thanks for the site information. Gene "Bead Shooter" Hickman From: <SWcushing@aol.com> > Nice work Mark! Here's the web site for the Joslyn Art Museum..... > <http://www.joslyn.org/index.html ....I hoped they had thumbnail jpg's of Miller's prints, but no luck. They do have an email address for a list though.... > Magpie - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 10:06:00 -0700 (PDT) From: mark scribner <plewsaplenty@yahoo.com> Subject: MtMan-List: Sparkless Frizzen Hello Camp, I recently aquired a .75 smooth bore pistol in flintlock. The frizzen was real rough and had to be smoothed down so that the flint would have a good surface to strike and ride on. Once all of that was done and the flint was set, I tried several times to get it to throw a spark, but it refused. Beyond trying to replace the frizzen,(and I don't know if I can because it's a reproduction with few markings on it), what can I do? I'd appreciate ya'lls input on it. Thanks, Gray Bear, Panther Clan Chief of the Over Hill Cherokee Nation __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 10:55:00 -0700 From: ALAN AVERY <aravery@shaw.ca> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Sparkless Frizzen "...I tried several times to get it to throw a spark, but it refused. Beyond trying to replace the frizzen,(and I don't know if I can because it's a reproduction with few markings on it), what can I do?..." Sounds like you need to harden the frizzen. I will let someone more qualified than myself, (which is nearly everybody!) explain the process to you. If that doesn't work, you might consider installing a frizzen shoe, (a plate soldered or glued to the frizzen face to provide a surface which will throw sparks.) Once again, one of the many talented gunsmiths on this list can no doubt explain better than I can. Black Knife aka Alan - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 13:36:31 -0400 From: hawknest4@juno.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: buff hunt concho--- believe he needed more than a barrel to fix it---lock barrel and stock--- hawk--- ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 18:23:29 EDT From: JimInTexas1962@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Sparkless Frizzen - --part1_1e.29d77a03.2a410ce1_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit find a feller who can reharden the frizzen face. Jim Branso Inez TX - --part1_1e.29d77a03.2a410ce1_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML>find a feller who can reharden the frizzen face. Jim Branso Inez TX</HTML> - --part1_1e.29d77a03.2a410ce1_boundary-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 14:58:06 -0400 From: hawknest4@juno.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Sparkless Frizzen mark--- you need to case harden the frizzen---you ground off the hard surface now you have to put it back on ---you do it with a torch and casonite or have a compitent gunsmith do it or reheat treat it for you---not a hard job---can send you instructions if you want--- hawk--- On Tue, 18 Jun 2002 10:06:00 -0700 (PDT) mark scribner <plewsaplenty@yahoo.com> writes: > Hello Camp, > I recently aquired a .75 smooth bore pistol in > flintlock. The frizzen was real rough and had to be > smoothed down so that the flint would have a good > surface to strike and ride on. Once all of that was > done and the flint was set, I tried several times to > get it to throw a spark, but it refused. Beyond trying > to replace the frizzen,(and I don't know if I can > because it's a reproduction with few markings on it), > what can I do? I'd appreciate ya'lls input on it. > Thanks, Gray Bear, Panther Clan Chief of the Over Hill > Cherokee Nation > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: > http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 22:34:37 EDT From: Traphand@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Sparkless Frizzen - --part1_81.1d42a927.2a42993d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hawk, If you would not mine Hawk could you email me on how to retreat the frizzen.thank you rick petzoldt Traphand Rick Petzoldt Traphand@aol.com - --part1_81.1d42a927.2a42993d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML>Hawk, If you would not mine Hawk could you email me on how to retreat the frizzen.thank you rick petzoldt Traphand Rick Petzoldt Traphand@aol.com </HTML> - --part1_81.1d42a927.2a42993d_boundary-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 10:47:18 -0400 From: hawknest4@juno.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Sparkless Frizzen traphand--- sent you the casehardening 101 offlist as it is a long disertation--- HAWK-- On Wed, 19 Jun 2002 22:34:37 EDT Traphand@aol.com writes: > Hawk, > If you would not mine Hawk could you email me on how to retreat > the > frizzen.thank you > rick petzoldt > > Traphand > Rick Petzoldt > Traphand@aol.com ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! 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