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hist_text-digest Monday, July 20 1998 Volume 01 : Number 102
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Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 21:54:35 EDT
From: <Grantd9@aol.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: purchasing/making wooden barrels
James Townsend and Son has quite an assortment of barrels and accoutrements.
You can find them at http://www.jastown.com/. More specifically at
http://www.jastown.com/kegs.htm. I have had very good sucess with James
Townsend. They have great quality and customer service.
Grant
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Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 21:10:45 -0400
From: hawknest4@juno.com (Michael Pierce)
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: purchasing/making wooden barrels
one of the foxfire series books has a section on wooden barrel makeing
that is very good---i dont have the exact one here so can't direct you to
the specific book--but i read it and remember it being in there---hope
this helps you a bit-- also mountain state muzzloading has 5 gal and 10
gal barrels for sale---toll free ordering is 1-800-445-1776
YMHOSANT
=+=
"Hawk"
Michael Pierce
854 Glenfield Dr.
Palm Harbor, florida 34684
1-(813) 771-1815 E-MAIL ADDRESS: HAWKNEST4@juno.com
On Thu, 16 Jul 1998 14:36:33, -0500 ZUHC75A@prodigy.com (MR ALLAN H
SMITH) writes:
>Do you have information for sources on purchasing or making wooden
>barrels?
>
>
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Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 17:44:04 -0700 (PDT)
From: Lee Newbill <lnewbill@uidaho.edu>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: purchasing/making wooden barrels
On Thu, 16 Jul 1998, MR ALLAN H SMITH wrote:
> Do you have information for sources on purchasing or making wooden
> barrels?
Hallo Allan
There are a couple of shops that I know of selling these... they are (in
no particular order);
Townsends at http://www.jastown.com/
Dixie Gun Works at http://www.dixiegun.com
I've seen 'em in 3, 5, and 10 gallon sizes. I'm sure there are others
that folks know of too.
Regards
Lee Newbill
Viola, Idaho
email at lnewbill@uidaho.edu
Keeper of the "Buckskins & Blackpowder!" Webpage
http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Gorge/7186
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Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 18:03:15 -0500
From: "Lanney Ratcliff" <rat@htcomp.net>
Subject: MtMan-List: Fw: keepsake biscuits
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Date: Thursday, July 16, 1998 6:00 PM
Subject: Fw: keepsake biscuits
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From: Lanney Ratcliff <rat@htcomp.net>
To: AMM <ammlist@lists.xmission.com>
Date: Thursday, July 09, 1998 9:14 AM
Subject: keepsake biscuits
Here is a recipe that you may find interesting...Keepsake Biscuits. I =
have used them for several years and virtually everybody who eats one =
wants the recipe. Make a batch, try them and pass the recipe around. The =
recipe is from a compendium of eighteenth century recipes. However, the =
book is no longer available to me, although I recently contacted the =
person who has it and asked for its name, author, editor, etc. I will =
pass it along if I ever get it.
The biscuits were designed to keep for weeks to provide travelers with =
breadstuffs over the duration of the long trips of that time. =
Apparantly the high fat content tends to preserve them...for as much a =
three weeks or more, depending on conditions. It is very unlikely that =
even one keepsake biscuit was ever baked in the rocky mountains during =
the classic fur trade era, but it is remotely possible that a newcomer =
could have brought some with him if he came west pretty much straight =
from his mother's kitchen so use them as your conscience allows. They =
can be eaten out of hand for several days, but get a little hard within =
a week. They are then best when heated over a fire for a few minutes. =
The are very good when broken into pieces about the size of grapes and =
simmered for 15 or 20 minutes with stew, etc to make dumplings or added =
to boiling fruit to make a good cobbler. And whatever you do, do NOT =
show this ricipe to your cardiologist!!
=20
Keepsake Biscuits
=20
10 cups all purpose flour
1 teaspoon salt
2 tablespoons sugar
1 teaspoon cream of tarter
1 pound butter (or lard) at room temperature
1 quart cream or milk (I use 1 pint of cream and 1 pint =
half-and-half)
=20
mix the dry ingredients into the flour. set aside about 2 cups of the =
mixture
cut in the butter or lard
add the cream, etc
stir together, adding enough of the set-aside flour mixture to make a =
stiff dough.
=20
Roll out to between 1/2 and 3/4 inches and place on baking pan, taking =
care that they don't quite touch each other. The biscuits will rise =
only slightly, if at all.
Bake in preheated 350 oven for about 35 to 40 minutes---but only until =
the bottoms are lightly browned. Do not bake them until the tops are =
more than slightly tan. If cooked until they are the golded brown you =
are used to seeing on biscuits they will be hard as flint. They will =
have a decidely undercooked look to them when they come out of the oven, =
but when they cool they will be fine. Let them cool completely then =
seal them in waxed paper in stacks of six or so---like Ritz crackers. =
Keep the stacks in the freezer in plastic bags until needed. This =
receipt makes 36 to 40 biscuits...and weighs about as much a good sized =
watermellon. =20
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is a recipe that you may find interesting...Keepsake =
Biscuits. I=20
have used them for several years and virtually everybody who eats one =
wants the=20
recipe. Make a batch, try them and pass the recipe around. The recipe is =
from a=20
compendium of eighteenth century recipes. However, the book is no =
longer=20
available to me, although I recently contacted the person who has it and =
asked=20
for its name, author, editor, etc. I will pass it along if I ever =
get=20
it.<BR></FONT><FONT size=3D2>The biscuits were designed to keep for =
weeks to=20
provide travelers with breadstuffs over the duration of the long trips =
of that=20
time. Apparantly the high fat content tends to preserve them...for =
as much=20
a three weeks or more, depending on conditions. It is very =
unlikely that=20
even one keepsake biscuit was ever baked in the rocky mountains during =
the=20
classic fur trade era, but it is remotely possible that a newcomer could =
have=20
brought some with him if he came west pretty much straight from his =
mother's=20
kitchen so use them as your conscience allows. They can be eaten =
out of=20
hand for several days, but get a little hard within a week. They =
are then=20
best when heated over a fire for a few minutes. The are very good =
when=20
broken into pieces about the size of grapes and simmered for 15 or 20 =
minutes=20
with stew, etc to make dumplings or added to boiling fruit to make a =
good=20
cobbler. And whatever you do, do NOT show this ricipe to your=20
cardiologist!!</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Keepsake Biscuits</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>10 cups all purpose flour</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>1 teaspoon salt</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>2 tablespoons sugar</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>1 teaspoon cream of =
tarter</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>1 pound butter (or lard) at room=20
temperature</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>1 quart cream or milk (I use 1 =
pint of cream=20
and 1 pint half-and-half)</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>mix the dry ingredients into the flour. set =
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>cut in the butter or lard</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>add the cream, etc</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>stir together, adding enough of the set-aside flour =
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minutes---but=20
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you are=20
used to seeing on biscuits they will be hard as flint. They will =
have a=20
decidely undercooked look to them when they come out of the oven, but =
when they=20
cool they will be fine. Let them cool completely then seal them in =
waxed=20
paper in stacks of six or so---like Ritz crackers. Keep the stacks =
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Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 17:16:00 -0700
From: j2hearts@juno.com (john c funk,jr)
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: purchasing/making wooden barrels
What size wooden (oak) barrel are you looking for?
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will call him friend.
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Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 15:03:14 -0600
From: "Ron" <cstmzd@ida.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: purchasing/making wooden barrels
The following business's have barrels. I'm sure there are others as well.
Cumberland General Store 1-800-334-4640
<www.cumberlandgeneral.com>
Panther Primatives 1-304-462-7718 info line
Ron's Idaho Pages
<http://www.ida.net/users/cstmzd/>
Email <cstmzd@ida.net>
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> From: MR ALLAN H SMITH <ZUHC75A@prodigy.com>
> To: hist_text@xmission.com
> Subject: MtMan-List: purchasing/making wooden barrels
> Date: Thursday, July 16, 1998 1:36 PM
>
> Do you have information for sources on purchasing or making wooden
> barrels?
>
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Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 00:17:41 EDT
From: <RR1LA@aol.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: purchasing/making wooden barrels
heres another source.. Tippicanoe, located in Tipp City, Ohio sells kegs. They
can be reached at (937) 667-1816. Also, check with any breweries /
microbreweries in your area; many times they can lead you to a cooperage
company where they obtain supplies. Hope this helps. PJ
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Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 20:43:49 +0000
From: randybublitz@juno.com (RANDAL J BUBLITZ)
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: purchasing/making wooden barrels
What size barrels? Panther Primitives has 5, 10, 15 gallon kegs. Making
barrels is tricky. I live in wine country. The wineries use 50 ? gallon
barrels. The used ones get cut in two for planters, etc... Hope this
helps. Hardtack
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Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 06:42:41 -0500 (CDT)
From: pwjones@onr.com
Subject: MtMan-List: Re: Painting Canoes
Dear List: I have just been given a 15' polyurethane (?) canoe with
internal aluminum bracing. The body of the canoe is somewhat flexible.
Query. I want to paint it to look somewhat like a birchbark canoe. What
type paints should be used on the body and/or the bracing? What colors are
used to simulate birchbark? What color for the "wood"/aluminum? I have seen
canoes painted in this fashion before, and some looked quite good.
Any suggestions?
Thank you. Paul W. Jones
Paul W. Jones
pwjones@onr.com
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