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From: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com (hist_text-digest) To: hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: hist_text-digest V1 #50 Reply-To: hist_text Sender: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk hist_text-digest Friday, April 10 1998 Volume 01 : Number 050 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 15:17:18 -0500 From: Brian Sorensen <sorensen@austin.technow.com> Subject: MtMan-List: BP Info Greetings to the List I live in Austin TX and am having an awful time finding real blackpowder. All the shops seem to blame it on the distributor for this area blowing up a while back and it is impossible to get it. My read: we don't want to carry it--use pyrodex When I pursue the discussion they all make reference to how crazy and misguided I am to preferring the original. Needless to say I don't get very far and they don't get a sale. Now to my question. It looks like I need to order it myself via the mail (I guess). I have not done this, and I thought I would check the wisdom of the list on the best / most cost effective way of doing this. Are there things I need to worry about? Thanks in advance for your help as I am down to my last pound. Cheers, Brian ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 17:54:26 -0400 From: Wil Thomas <godswil@spectra.net> Subject: MtMan-List: vous in Pa. don't know your location but in sept/oct at raccoon creek state park, hookstown. NMLRA eastern primitive. http://home.earthlink.net/~segundo98/ If your near central NY boarder, a few guys are starting a group in Binghamton area. Interested? or interested parties? contact me here. Or dickp@spectra.net Wil " EASY " ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 18:02:30 -0500 From: "Lanney Ratcliff" <rat@htcomp.net> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: pine tar Pine tar is sort of a stickumpucky used to increase the gripability of a baseball bat. Presumably this is what you are refering to. Try a big sporting goods store that carries lots of baseball equipment---or call the nearest major league baseball team. Lanney Ratcliff - -----Original Message----- From: Carlson Wagonlit Travel <travel@turbonet.com> To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com <hist_text@lists.xmission.com> Date: Wednesday, April 08, 1998 12:47 PM Subject: MtMan-List: pine tar >Here's a question bound to stump all of you. >What exactly is pine tar, and also where can you get it??! >I can't seem to find anyone with any info on it. > >Matt Mitchell >Palouse Hills Muzzleloaders >Moscow, Idaho >travel@turbonet.com > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 16:07:57 -0700 From: Dale Nelson <dnelson@wizzards.net> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: pine tar Carlson Wagonlit Travel wrote: > > What exactly is pine tar, and also where can you get it??! > I can't seem to find anyone with any info on it. Pine Tar is an old time remedy for doctoring horses feet. I used pine tar in hoof dressing and also when shoeing a horse with a leather pad under the shoe. Beneath the pad it is packed with pine tar and oakum. I bought pine tar in them there days -- which was probably close to thirty years ago -- at the local feed store, or where ever I purchased my horseshoeing supplies. Pine tar is actually resin from pine trees that has been distilled somehow. Dale Nelson dnelson@wizzards.net ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 16:11:27 -0700 From: Dale Nelson <dnelson@wizzards.net> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: BP Info Brian Sorensen wrote: > > Greetings to the List > I live in Austin TX and am having an awful time finding real > blackpowder. Usually any rendezvous I go to has more than one person selling black powder. If you order it via a catalog, it has to be shipped UPS, and they charge hazmat fees etc. so it costs more. Dale Nelson dnelson@wizzards.net ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 19:33:53 EDT From: RR1LA <RR1LA@aol.com> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: pine tar Dear Matt, This one is kinda like the duck story: if it smells like Pine, sticks like Pine, and seals like Pine, its Pine (trees). It's made from the sap, I have found (the tar or 'pitch') avaliable in different forms for different uses. Pitch Pine split into small sticks (also called Georgia Fatwood) is GREAT for getting a fire going; I see it available in catalogs for camping and barbeque supplies and in some places that sell fireplace supplies. Brewers' Pitch, available in bulk, can be used for sealing kegs, barrels, tins, sacks, gourds, etc., and I have found it through both catalogs (you might check Tippecanoe) and also brewers supply places, whether for home or commercial. Also, Pine resin, in a powdered form is used for baseball bats, axe handles and stuff you swing. A sporting goods store would be good for that stuff. A good place to start for sources near you might be the internet. Hope this helps. PJ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 19:53:23 EDT From: RR1LA <RR1LA@aol.com> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: BP Info Dear Brian, Heres some BP sources listed in MuzzleLoader Magazine. Goex Inc. (has full list of dealers) - 717-457-6724 Elephant Black Powder - 800-588-8282 Arlington, Texas (internet orders www.fastlane.net/~petro) Goex Powder w/ free Goex hat - 419-422-2227 Coonies Goex (been around for years) 800-713-6321 Hobbs, NM Upper Missouri Trading (Elephant Brand) 402-388-4844 Crofton, NE Hope this helps. PJ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 17:33:43 -0700 From: "JON P TOWNS" <AMM944@prodigy.net> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: pine tar This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_01BD6314.7A190E00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well you can get it from Chas Townsend and son its also called Brewer's Pitch it a natural pine tar pitch good for foodsafe ,and water tight coating of wood or metal containers $5.00 a pound later Jon T - ---------- : From: Carlson Wagonlit Travel <travel@turbonet.com> : To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com : Subject: MtMan-List: pine tar : Date: Wednesday, April 08, 1998 2:27 AM : : Here's a question bound to stump all of you. : What exactly is pine tar, and also where can you get it??! : I can't seem to find anyone with any info on it. : : Matt Mitchell : Palouse Hills Muzzleloaders : Moscow, Idaho : travel@turbonet.com - ------=_NextPart_000_01BD6314.7A190E00 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html><head></head><BODY bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF">Well you can get it from Chas Townsend = and son its also called Brewer's Pitch it a natural pine tar pitch good = for foodsafe ,and water tight coating of wood or metal containers $5.00 = a pound later Jon T ---------- : From: Carlson Wagonlit = Travel <travel@turbonet.com> : To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com : Subject: MtMan-List: pine tar : Date: = Wednesday, April 08, 1998 2:27 AM : : Here's a question bound to = stump all of you. : What exactly is pine tar, and also where can you = get it??! : I can't seem to find anyone with any info on it. : = : Matt Mitchell : Palouse Hills Muzzleloaders : Moscow, = Idaho : travel@turbonet.com </body></html> - ------=_NextPart_000_01BD6314.7A190E00-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 19:53:43 -0500 From: "Pamela Wheeler" <rebelfreehold@worldnet.att.net> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: BP Info Howdy all, That makes two of us in Texas! If any one else in TX./ San Antonio area knows where I can drive to in Texas to buy black powder please let me know. Thanks, YellowFeather Schertz, TX. (210)-658-5336 - ---------- > From: Brian Sorensen <sorensen@austin.technow.com> > To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com > Subject: MtMan-List: BP Info > Date: Wednesday, April 08, 1998 3:17 PM > > Greetings to the List > I live in Austin TX and am having an awful time finding real > blackpowder. All the shops seem to blame it on the distributor for this > > area blowing up a while back and it is impossible to get it. My read: > we don't want to carry it--use pyrodex > When I pursue the discussion they all make reference to how crazy and > misguided I am to preferring the original. Needless to say I don't get > very far and they don't get a sale. > Now to my question. It looks like I need to order it myself via the > mail (I guess). I have not done this, and I thought I would check the > wisdom of the list on the best / most cost effective way of doing this. > Are there things I need to worry about? > Thanks in advance for your help as I am down to my last pound. > > Cheers, > Brian ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 19:01:18 -0700 From: "The Windhams" <windham@jps.net> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: BP Info Brian, been down your road a couple of times, best p lace to get black powder is at rondi or mail order. you can order from several suppliers but it will work best if you can get some friends to place an order with you , and bulk buy. Also check the amount you are allowed to have in your home , some states have max amounts. Here in Calif 5 LBS is the limit Track of the wolf sells BP and ships ups their # is (612) 424-2500 and I don't blame you , why use fake powder , ? when the real thing works so well !! Rick HTTP//:www.ptw.com/~lattanze/home/blackhawk.html - ---------- > From: Brian Sorensen <sorensen@austin.technow.com> > To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com > Subject: MtMan-List: BP Info > Date: Wednesday, April 08, 1998 1:17 PM > > Greetings to the List > I live in Austin TX and am having an awful time finding real > blackpowder. All the shops seem to blame it on the distributor for this > > area blowing up a while back and it is impossible to get it. My read: > we don't want to carry it--use pyrodex > When I pursue the discussion they all make reference to how crazy and > misguided I am to preferring the original. Needless to say I don't get > very far and they don't get a sale. > Now to my question. It looks like I need to order it myself via the > mail (I guess). I have not done this, and I thought I would check the > wisdom of the list on the best / most cost effective way of doing this. > Are there things I need to worry about? > Thanks in advance for your help as I am down to my last pound. > > Cheers, > Brian > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 22:03:18 EDT From: ITWHEELER <ITWHEELER@aol.com> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: pine tar pine tar is i beleave a dirivitive op pine wood cooked down and renderd out the pine tar ! ive used it for along with [okem another storry] on a horses split hoof. i get mine from a feed store that sells horse care products. ive mixed it with lenseed oil an bee wax to make convas waterproof it smelled terrable for years yes years. iron tounge ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 22:17:27 EDT From: ITWHEELER <ITWHEELER@aol.com> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: pine tar it is an ancient remady for lot of things i have used it for two things to pack a horses hoof that had a split in it . ive mixed it with turpintine to treet thrush on a horses hoof. ived mixed it with bees waz and lenseeoil to water proof canvas it smelled bad for years . it is adrivitive of boiled down pine wood witch is taken a step further and made into pine tarr. i get mine from a real good feed store that has horse care products or ferrerer equipment - - horse shoer. it was used as a poltice i beleave to sweat out poisin in a snakebite or bullet im glad we have penicillion. the packed it with okium in cracks of boats to seal the bottem water tight . its handy if you know how to use it irontounge ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 21:25:06 -0700 From: Cynthia Pierce <CPierce@InfoAve.Net> Subject: MtMan-List: Pine tar Being from The Tar Heel State I do know a little about this one. Pine trees where tapped and the sap,or pitch, was removed to make a substance that was used to help waterproof ships and many other items (like the knapsacks in the War Between the States,I think) My Mother used to make a poultice (Mom called it a tar plaster) to put on us kids when we had the flu or a real bad cold. You could buy it in a small jar at the drug store. I'll ask her and see if I can find any. I'm no professor but thats what I know. Hope it helps. Rick ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 19:44:04 -0700 From: Dave Parks <kc7cnw@magick.net> Subject: MtMan-List: Re: Black Powder Hi Brian, I'm afraid you are out of luck ordering Black powder via the mail, they won't ship it to my knowledge. You can order Pyrodex via UPS from suppliers. My advice is to find some local BP shooters either Skinners or Target Shooters and find out their sources for the REAL powder! No self -respecting MM would be caught dead with Pyrodexi in his horn! Waugh! Kidding aside, the sales of "artificial" BP is very strong in demand since all of these modern BP hunting rifles came out, but the main reason that fewer and fewer dealers are carrying the real stuff is because the local city & county restrictions on BP are getting tougher all the time. In most areas a dealer is now required to show proof of a fire-proof safe or some other means to keep the BP locked up at their place of business and they are also limited to the amount they can have on their store premises. Their insurance companies will in some cases, drop them if they carry real BP, it is more dangerous than Pyrodex or other smokeless powders in most cases if their store should burn down. I know of several dealers that have found it un-practical to carry for the little profit made from it. The only way a dealer could make a decent profit from it, was by buying it in quantity. The average dealer can't do that now because of all the new restrictions and city ordinances limiting the amount they can stock in their store. They don't have that problem (as bad) with the other powders. I can remember years ago, when I was a member of "The Burbank Muzzleloaders" Our club ordered 2FF & 3FFF by the keg and we would all bring our empty 1lb. cans to the 126 acre club range and open the underground bunker the club kept the kegs in. We would all gather round the man measuring it out like a herd of thirsty buffalo gathered around a waterhole! Them was the good old days....it ran about $2.00 a pound as I remember. Right now, I think I have about seven pounds of BP and I feel almost naked with so little on hand. Never know when the "Bugs Boys" might turn up. This coon feels like cach'en. Regards, _M_ Manywounds W ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 07:46:52 EDT From: JFLEMYTH <JFLEMYTH@aol.com> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: BP still rules. If any person hastles you about using the real McCoy in your front stuffer, point out that real black powder ignites around 320 degrees and Pyrodex, (ugh!), ignites around 600 degrees. You can get a faster and better ignition with the real stuff. I think Goex will still ship but you have to pay hazmat fees. I have found Goex at a couple of small gun shops around here. (Of course, I live two miles out of a big city.) I would just get on the phone to some obscure places if you haven't. You never know. You might get lucky! John Fleming. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 07:41:46 EDT From: Achgegetum <Achgegetum@aol.com> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: pine tar The question was what is pine tar and where can I get some? Don't know what it is, but it seems to be used for an antiseptic, lubricant, and waterproofing compound for rope & twine. It Is available from: Cumberland General Store, #1 Highway 68, Crossville, TN 38555. 1-800-334-4640. Last years catalog lists 1 pint (#0727) for $7.30. Hope this helps. Rex Cole, Achgegetum@aol.com Westmont, IL ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 07:59:36 -0500 From: "Scott Allen" <allen@blueridge-ef.SAIC.COM> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: BP Info Brian, I ordered 25 lbs from Evenson Explosives (address in any muzzleloading type magazine. I don't have it here at work). It was no hassle at all. I just called them and told them what I wanted. They said "just send us a check" and I got it about 5 days later thru UPS. For my area the total charge was $175. That is 25 lbs of powder, hazmat fee and shipping. If you can get a few friends who also need powder it's a great way to do it. The price works out to about $7 a pound, which is better than I can get anywhere locally. Good luck. Your most humble servant, Scott Allen Hunter and Scout for Fort Frederick Fairplay, MD http://members.tripod.com/~SCOTT ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 08:33:59 -0600 (CST) From: mxhbc@TTACS.TTU.EDU (Henry B. Crawford) Subject: Re: MtMan-List: BP Info >Greetings to the List > I live in Austin TX and am having an awful time finding real >blackpowder. All the shops seem to blame it on the distributor for this > I have no trouble getting it here in Lubbock. Fred's Gun Emporium here sells it in all grain sizes. No problem. When you come up, we can go out to Rustic Range and blow a few pounds. :-) Cheers, HBC ***************************************** Henry B. Crawford Curator of History mxhbc@ttacs.ttu.edu Museum of Texas Tech University 806/742-2442 Box 43191 FAX 742-1136 Lubbock, TX 79409-3191 WEBSITE: http://www.ttu.edu/~museum ****** Living History . . . Because it's there! ******* ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 08:43:53 -0600 (CST) From: mxhbc@TTACS.TTU.EDU (Henry B. Crawford) Subject: Re: MtMan-List: pine tar >Carlson Wagonlit Travel wrote: >> >> What exactly is pine tar, and also where can you get it??! >> I can't seem to find anyone with any info on it. > >Pine Tar is an old time remedy for doctoring horses feet. I used pine >tar in hoof dressing and also when shoeing a horse with a leather pad >under the shoe. Beneath the pad it is packed with pine tar and oakum. >I bought pine tar in them there days -- which was probably close to >thirty years ago -- at the local feed store, or where ever I purchased >my horseshoeing supplies. Pine tar is actually resin from pine trees >that has been distilled somehow. > Dale Nelson dnelson@wizzards.net Foxfire #4 (pp. 252-256) has a chapter on how to make pine tar. HBC ***************************************** Henry B. Crawford Curator of History mxhbc@ttacs.ttu.edu Museum of Texas Tech University 806/742-2442 Box 43191 FAX 742-1136 Lubbock, TX 79409-3191 WEBSITE: http://www.ttu.edu/~museum ****** Living History . . . Because it's there! ******* ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 06:40:07 +0000 From: "Mike Katona" <mkatona@pdx.oneworld.com> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: BP Info Check the black powder manufactures home page and they will lead you to major wholesalers around the country. I know there is one in Carlsbad, (I believe) NM. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 08:56:49 -0400 From: mtmannh@juno.com (charles l chalk) Subject: Re: MtMan-List: BP Info Black Powder is shippable by UPS straight to your door. Dealers usually deal in 25 # qualifies, in 1# cans. They mix loads, which is good , because if you shoot flint, you can get 4or5 fg, which is nearly impossible to get at a store. You will pay shipping and a hazardous materials charge, which may be offset by the savings per pound. Get a few shooters together and split the cost. As for storage, unless preempted by local laws, Fire Code allows you to store 20# in a residence, in a wooden box with 1" thick walls( for an explosion, the wood doesn't become shrapnel ). Your local FD can show you the rules in a document called NFPA 495. Oh, by the way, all cartons of powder will come with a label that says "Flammable Solid ", not "Explosive" . If you are concerned about ignition of stored powder, it is safer than gasoline or propane, which leak vapors that can find an ignition source. Just take reasonable care with spilled powder. Charles Chalk Merrimack, N.H. 03054 On Wed, 08 Apr 1998 15:17:18 -0500 Brian Sorensen <sorensen@austin.technow.com> writes: >Greetings to the List > I live in Austin TX and am having an awful time finding real >blackpowder. All the shops seem to blame it on the distributor for >this > >area blowing up a while back and it is impossible to get it. My read: >we don't want to carry it--use pyrodex _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 08:01:53 -0600 From: "Scott Singer" <ssinger@sprynet.com> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: pine tar >>Here's a question bound to stump all of you. >>What exactly is pine tar, and also where can you get it??! >>I can't seem to find anyone with any info on it. >> >>Matt Mitchell >>Palouse Hills Muzzleloaders >>Moscow, Idaho I can get small cans of it in the hardware store here in Colorado. Since you are in Idaho, also check with stores that sell cross country skis - pine tar is used to waterproof the bases of old wooden cross country skis so they don't absorb moisture, crack, and ice up. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 16:33:26 EDT From: JohnDies <JohnDies@aol.com> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: trade axes and tomahawks I hope you reference Carl P. Russell's book, Firearms, Traps, & Tools of the Mountain Men, 1967, Alfred Knopf. University of New Mexico did a seventh printing in 1988. Great book, but it is time to give the whole field a relook. A lot of new stuff has surfaced since 1967. Has anyone heard of John Barsotti and his collection? Russell mentions him a lot but I haven't seen any other reference. john diestler lafayette, ca johndies@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 21:43:22 -0700 From: "P.D. Amschler" <buckskinner@mailcity.com> Subject: MtMan-List: Jeremiah Johnson Movie question? Does anyone have a copy or know where I can get a copy of the old Redford movie "Jeremiah Johnson"? Paul (The Buckskinner Bear) Get your FREE, private e-mail account at http://www.mailcity.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 07:36:04 -0700 From: "Gail Carbiener" <carbg@cmc.net> Subject: MtMan-List: Beaver... I have a need for a beaver skin to be used as a prop. Can they be purchased? If so where? Sure enjoy reading you "Professional" guys on this list. Better than any damn book your can buy! Gail ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 10:42:28 -0700 From: Frank <MedicineBear@Hawken54.sparks.nv.us> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Beaver... Gail, I don't know if this is the best or cheapest source but I did see some plews at Tandy Leather. Not just beaver but others. Hope this helps. Medicine Bear Gail Carbiener wrote: > I have a need for a beaver skin to be used as a prop. Can they be purchased? > If so where? > > Sure enjoy reading you "Professional" guys on this list. Better than any > damn book your can buy! > > Gail ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 12:40:53 -0600 From: Les Chaffin <chaflesl@isu.edu> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Beaver... This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --------------40C2A388954DD38429AFA3E1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Gail, Try Moscow Hide & Fur, They have all types of fur and they have a web site at http://www.hideandfur.com/ Hope this helps? Les Frank wrote: > > Gail, > > I don't know if this is the best or cheapest source but I did see some plews at > Tandy Leather. Not just beaver but others. Hope this helps. > > Medicine Bear > > Gail Carbiener wrote: > > > I have a need for a beaver skin to be used as a prop. Can they be purchased? > > If so where? > > > > Sure enjoy reading you "Professional" guys on this list. Better than any > > damn book your can buy! > > > > Gail - --------------40C2A388954DD38429AFA3E1 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="vcard.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Les Chaffin Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="vcard.vcf" begin: vcard fn: Les Chaffin n: Chaffin ;Les org: Twin Falls Computer Center Mgr. adr;dom: 34 Barton Lane;;;Twin Falls;Idaho;83301; email;internet: chaflesl@isu.edu title: Idaho State University tel;work: 208-736-2119 tel;fax: 208-236-4836 tel;home: 208-736-6002 x-mozilla-cpt: ;0 x-mozilla-html: TRUE version: 2.1 end: vcard - --------------40C2A388954DD38429AFA3E1-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 10:58:03 -0700 From: Dave Parks <kc7cnw@magick.net> Subject: MtMan-List: Re: Redford movie, J.J. P.D. Amschler wrote: > > Movie question? > > Does anyone have a copy or know where I can get a copy of the old Redford movie "Jeremiah Johnson"? I have found that this movie comes up on T.V. every now and then and you can tape it. That is how I got my copy, along with the Charlton Heston/Brian Keith movie "Mountain Men". They are both good entertainment movies. Movie subjects seem to go in cycles, and I think it's about time for another good "Mountain Man" movie to come along. I would also like to see a good quality documentary done on the fur trade era starting back in the 1600's with the Hudson Bay Company in Canada, the Northwest Company, Manual Lisa's first fort on to the end of the main beaver trade in the U.S. I think someone like Ken Burns would be the obvious choice for a project like this. I also feel it has crossed his mind a time or two. To do it right, it would take about five two hour episodes though. I'm sure we would all like to see a correct documentary done on this subject. There are a lot of historians that frequent this list who could offer material for a project of this magnatude. How 'bout it Dean? I would also like to see a fur trade movie made with a good storyline and attention to detail like that of Kevin Coster's "Dances with Wolves". Everytime I watch his movie, I see something new that I didn't spot before. His attention to detail was refreshing to see. A far cry from the days of "painted-up" white men playing as indians, etc. It showed that it is possible to include proper details (like speaking sioux, with subtitles and showing what it was really like "running buffalo". Too many movies seem to rush through a storyline to save production time. Dances with Wolves was a fresh break from the standard Hollywood garbage. Regards, _M_ Manywounds W ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 11:05:01 -0700 From: Dave Parks <kc7cnw@magick.net> Subject: MtMan-List: Re: Beaver Hides Gail Carbiener wrote: > > I have a need for a beaver skin to be used as a prop. Can they be purchased? > If so where? > Moscow Hide & Fur Moscow, Idaho (208) 882-0601 http:www.hideandfur.com medium/large tanned hide: about $50.00 Regards, _M_ Manywounds W ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 13:11:13 -0600 From: "Kirk L. Davis" <kirk.davis@m.cc.utah.edu> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Beaver... At 07:36 AM 4/10/1998 -0700, Gail wrote: >I have a need for a beaver skin to be used as a prop. Can they be purchased? >If so where? > Moscow Hide and Fur in Moscow Idaho has them for sale, their web page is at: http://www.hideandfur.com/ Also any large rendezvous will have traders selling beaver plews. "Squint" Kirk L. Davis Salt Lake City, UT kirk.davis@m.cc.utah.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 12:47:35 -0700 From: Flying Cloud <flyingcd@rosenet.net> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Beaver... Gail Carbiener wrote: > > I have a need for a beaver skin to be used as a prop. Can they be purchased? > If so where? > > Sure enjoy reading you "Professional" guys on this list. Better than any > damn book your can buy! > > Gail Hi Gail Give Sheri Woods a call at, Woods' Fur Shack, the phone number is 541-592-2968 tell her Jim at Flying Cloud said Hi. - -- Jim Ellison, http://www.rosenet.net/~flyingcd ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 22:02:21 EDT From: Traphand <Traphand@aol.com> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: Redford movie, J.J. what about centennial by james michner you left that one out ------------------------------ End of hist_text-digest V1 #50 ****************************** - To unsubscribe to hist_text-digest, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe hist_text-digest" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message.