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hats Digest               Tuesday, 21 January 1997      Volume 02 : Number 013

In this issue:

    Re: (hats) 2 for 1 Going to print this week
    Re: (hats) 2 for 1 Going to print this week
    Re: (hats) 2 for 1 Going to print this week
    (hats) Rational Youth
    (hats) Re: Rational Youth
    (hats) CD Trilogy
    (hats) anyone see this post?
    Re: (hats) anyone see this post?
    (hats) Ivan's new recording
    (hats) MWH on new year's eve!
    (hats) Re: MWH in concert?
    (hats) CD Trilogy
    Re: (hats) Videos are finished
    (hats) bla bla bla!
    Re: (hats) Videos are finished
    (hats) Ivan?
    (hats) 2 for 1 - distribution
    RE: (hats) 2 for 1 - distribution
    (hats) Hats New Album
    (hats) Pictures.
    (hats) New Folk Of The '80s EPs
    (hats) Hats New Album?

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From: "Dr. Laura M.B. Kramer" <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 08:26:31 +0000
Subject: Re: (hats) 2 for 1 Going to print this week

Hi hatters!

Carl sez...

[snip]
> we should have finished goods available for sale to customers outside
> the USA and Canada by Feb 10th.
[snip]

Last year, when Carl was able to make the Collection available in the
US (but unfortunately not abroad), I was glad to help get the CDs to
our overseas list friends, and had this wonderful music going to 5
continents!  Now maybe someone would like to adopt a few Americans
and Canadians?

Hatlessly, even tho' it's *darn* cold here!!
;-) Laura

PS to SW and MB - I *promise* I'll get my act in gear and write you
guys soon!  Hope y'all are well! :-) L

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From: Carl <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 08:25:12 +0000
Subject: Re: (hats) 2 for 1 Going to print this week

Here are the answers to the most common questions I received about the 2 for
1:

> Will the US release be the same as the other countries, or, will there bonus
> tracks or tracks missing, different artwork...etc...

Probably. We have a specific track list in mind and I expect that the others
will follow our lead.

> Anyone organize a way for us Yanks to get a hold of these yet?

I can not organize anything directly but if you guys can find an online mail
order service located outside North America I'll try to set them up as a
vendor.

Carl
Oglio Records

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From: Mike Best <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 12:44:59 -0700 (MST)
Subject: Re: (hats) 2 for 1 Going to print this week

>> Anyone organize a way for us Yanks to get a hold of these yet?
>
>I can not organize anything directly but if you guys can find an online mail
>order service located outside North America I'll try to set them up as a
>vendor.
>
>Carl
>Oglio Records

Well, 'ere in the old UK we are charged anywhere between 10 and 16
UKSterling for a disk, so that equates to 15 to 24 USDollars (approx) plus
postage.  I suppose I could 'buy bulk' through a friends dad's record shop
and hopefully get a reduced price though I'm not sure if the 2 for 1 will
be classed as an import or not...  The problem is that my company (Global
Dynamik - Wang VS software) doesn't have a visa debit account, so maybe
someone else who has can help out!


Mike

PS Bonehead - I thought you'd emigrated to a Net free zone!



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From: Dave Teixeira <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 16:47:57 -0800
Subject: (hats) Rational Youth

I know that this is a little off the MWH topic, but a few months ago we
discussed the similarities etc. of MWH and another Montreal synth band
Rational Youth.

I came across this posting from Tracy Howe of Rational Youth in
alt.music.canada and thought that I would repost it in the event some RY
fans continue to lurk here.

As an aside, it is great to see a band member working at getting his
work re-released!  Good luck Tracy!

Dave Teixeira
[e-mail]
British Columbia, Canada

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

We are engaged in a campaign to get EMI Canada to re-issue our album
"Cold War Night Life" on CD. They have said that if they get enough
requests they will put it out.

We are asking synthpop fans to go to our homepage, which is located at
http://www.lglobal.com/~fitzhowe/ry and follow the email link to EMI
which is right on the first page of our site. Then, all we are asking
that people do is write "Attention Warren Stewart: Please re-issue Cold
War Night Life by Rational Youth" then put your name and the city and
country you are writing from.

We will thank individually by name every person who informs us that they
have done this by listing their name in the booklet of the CD when it is
released and on our homepage where we have an honour roll of synthpop
heroes who have helped us with this campaign.

If you are a fan of Rational Youth, or if you would just like to support
a synthpop effort anyway, please take a minute to go to our site and
help us with this campaign.

Thanks everybody!
Tracy Howe
Rational Youth
Toronto, Canada

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From: Ralph Deiterding <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 08:59:48 +0000
Subject: (hats) Re: Rational Youth

Dave:

I don't think Rational Youth is too far off topic, as Tracy Howe was in
Men Without Hats at one point according to the notes in the Rational
Youth "All Our Saturdays" greatest hits CD.  Anyways, thanks for letting
at least one big Rational Youth fan help to try to get "Cold War Night
Life" re-issued on CD.

Ralph (A list lurker to this point)

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From: Chris Schumann <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 09:23:06 -0600 (CST)
Subject: (hats) CD Trilogy

I, too, missed the videos AND the CD's, but since I have a new wicked fast
computer with CD-R drive I am willing to make a batch of copies once I get
my own set. I can't say I can produce the same quality product (I make
paper labels and stick them to discs for myself), but they will sound the
same.

Anyone willing to sell their copy or lend it for a week or so? Please
e-mail as I'm on the tri-weekly digest.

Chris


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From: James Davis <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 15:40:04 -0800
Subject: (hats) anyone see this post?

>From alt.music.synthpop (12/31/96):

Subject:      Attention Dallasites: MEN WITHOUT HATS!
From:         [e-mail] (Russell Miller)
Date:         1996/12/31
Message-Id:   <5a9rmm$[e-mail]>
Organization: MIT
Reply-To:     [e-mail]
Newsgroups:   alt.music.synthpop


MWH coming to Club Blue Planet, New Year's Eve.  Tickets 15$ in
advance, 20$ at door.  8796 N. Central Expy @ Park Lane.  369-7009

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From: "Dr. Laura M.B. Kramer" <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 10:00:33 +0000
Subject: Re: (hats) anyone see this post?

Oops!  I accidentally sent my comment only to James the first time.
Now that I've had some Dr. Pepper, I feel much more cognitively
aware...

[Sorry James!]

> MWH coming to Club Blue Planet, New Year's Eve.  Tickets 15$ in
> advance, 20$ at door.  8796 N. Central Expy @ Park Lane.  369-7009

All I can say is AAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGHHHHHH!  Who cares that Dallas is
like halfway across the US from here - I'd have gone in a
heartbeat!!!

Excuse me while I go weep.

Hatless in Raleigh,
Laura

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From: "Lars Wendt" <[e-mail]>
Date: 16 Jan 1997 08:19:19 +0100
Subject: (hats) Ivan's new recording

Does anybody know the status of Ivan's new recording? Wasn't it supposed to be
released in January-97?

"We coin the phrases like we must win or die,
It's all so confusing today, hello goodbye"
__________________________________________________________________

Lars Wendt
Telenor Online AS
Tel + 47 22771900 - ext: + 47 22771806
Fax + 47 22771910
Internet: [e-mail]
P.O.Box 405, 1324 Lysaker, Norway
Office: Vollsveien 6, Lysaker
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From: Mike Best <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 12:46:15 -0700 (MST)
Subject: (hats) MWH on new year's eve!

What was this 'MWH at Club Blue Planet' exactly?  Some DJ spinning some old
discs or a mega new dance album by the Great Ones...  The truth is out
there and we should all find it!!

And as for Lars question about Ivan's new recording - did I miss a few
weeks info somewhere along the line???  Maybe he means the 2-for-1 which is
due out in early Feb...

Confused of Deptford (UK!)

Mike



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From: James Davis <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 14:42:15 -0800
Subject: (hats) Re: MWH in concert?

>From the source:

Russell Miller wrote:
>
>         Turned out I was wrong.  It was just a bunch of people doing a cover
> band of
> MWH...

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From: Chris Schumann <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 09:40:28 -0600 (CST)
Subject: (hats) CD Trilogy

So far three people have asked me for copies once I get my copy, but no
one has offered to lend or sell me their set. One kind sould has offered
to make copies of his set, but he cannot make the same labels as on the
original.

I'd really like to borrow a set so that I can make paper labels that
approximate the cool labels on the original batch. If I'm confused and the
labels really aren't all that cool, photocopies of the disc labels will
suffice.

Is anyone in the US (preferably the midwest) willing to lend me the
trilogy package?

(Send e-mail. I'm on the digest.)
Chris


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From: Gregor Watson <[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 10:44:16 GMT
Subject: Re: (hats) Videos are finished

At 13:32 12/01/97 -0500, you wrote:

>        By the way,  shouldn't we all be discussing the stuff on the video?
> The list has been dead dead dead.   I thought that this video and J.R.'s
>CDs would awaken this mailing list.......

Everyone's been watching the video...no time to read email. Anyway it's
great to see and hear some different MWH stuff, there still isn't enough
stuff out there though. MWH sound great with guitars in there beside the
synths.

My personal three of the best are Heaven from the video/ROY CD and
WDTBG/Things in my life both also from the ROY CD.

Anyone else got any favourites?


Gregor

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From: [e-mail]
Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 14:10:39 -0500 (EST)
Subject: (hats) bla bla bla!

Hello Hats fan...

First:  I will do the mailing monday for the MWH pictures.  If you want to
add your name, do it fast.   If you need my address again to send your money
order, leave me a message.

Second:   HEY J.R.  did you change your address??? My enveloppe came back!!!!
 Could you leave me again your address in private.   Sorry about that!!!!!!

Finally:  LARS-->   In november, I spoke with someone at Musique Plus.  This
person told me that Ivan Doroschuck is working right now on a French Solo
Album.  It was suppose to be ready this winter.   If I have any news, I will
leave a message


Bye bye for now!

Francis

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From: [e-mail]
Date: Sun, 19 Jan 1997 19:19:27 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: (hats) Videos are finished

In a message dated 97-01-18 23:37:53 EST, you write:

<< Heaven from the video/ROY CD and >>
Heaven is on the RoY CD? Not on my copy. Are there multiple versions of the
CD? It's not on my LP either. The video and the Freeways Live Cd were the
first places I heard it.
- -Andrew


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From: [e-mail]
Date: Sun, 19 Jan 1997 23:03:12 -0500 (EST)
Subject: (hats) Ivan?

Beware the ides of March!
"If all else fails, use the open eye."

- - Chonky Orkin Boggles


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From: Thomas Bieler <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 20:33:06 +0100 (MET)
Subject: (hats) 2 for 1 - distribution

[Carl]
> Thought you Hatters would like to be the first to know that Oglio's
> ROY/Folk 2 for 1 will be going to print this week.
>
> Once the booklets are printed & shipped, discs made, boxes built etc -
> we should have finished goods available for sale to customers outside
> the USA and Canada by Feb 10th.

- ---

[Laura]
> Last year, when Carl was able to make the Collection available in the
> US (but unfortunately not abroad), I was glad to help get the CDs to
> our overseas list friends, and had this wonderful music going to 5
> continents!  Now maybe someone would like to adopt a few Americans
> and Canadians?

- ---

[Carl]
> I can not organize anything directly but if you guys can find an online mail
> order service located outside North America I'll try to set them up as a
> vendor.

- ---

I don't know, if this has been organized by now. If not, I'd be willing to
get the discs for people in the USA and Kanada.
There are three possibilities for me to get the discs:

1. Carl sells me a bunch of discs, like he sold special 'Fan-Copies' of
   'Collection'. Carl, please contact me, if this is possible (I am in
   Germany and I am a private person, no company).

2. Get them from an ordinary shop. New CDs are about $16 to $20 US here.
   If there's a large request, maybe they will grant me some discount. I've
   never tried that before, so I don't know.

3. There are always people at record faires selling new discs at low prices.
   Maybe I can get into business with one of them (Never tried before, too).
   I doubt that the price would be less than $12 US.

In any way, shipping from Germany is quite expensive, so my suggestion would
be that I'd send a package with multiple CDs to a person in the USA (e.g.
Laura :), who will then send them to their individual recipients. Before we
will do this, we will check which is the cheapest way. Btw, this might be a
reasonable solution from all overseas locations, not only Germany.

So folks, please let me know what you think about all this.

Greetings, Thomas

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From: Jeff Schachter <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 16:50:14 -0500 (EST)
Subject: RE: (hats) 2 for 1 - distribution

[forward of response to Thomas...]

Hi!

I'm interested in getting a copy of the new 2for1 CD, and will pay whatever
necessary (within reason :) to get it.

I could volunteer to be the "transshipment" point in the US if you want.  This
way you could send me one package with all the CD's and I could forward them.

Two potential problems with this idea, though:

- - I'd rather not pay for all the CD's and then collect the money myself, as I
am pretty broke right now and couldn't afford to shell out for n copies.  But,
if people pay you for the CD and me for shipping they'd have to send two
cheques.

- - US Customs may get upset about one person receiving so many copies of a
single CD.  They may consider it "importing" rather than a gift or whatever,
and may slap an additional duty on it, or get their feathers ruffled.  Anyone
know the legal implications of doing this?  As a foreigner here, I wouldn't
want to get deported for customs violations :)

Jeff
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From: [e-mail]
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 05:24:58 -0500 (EST)
Subject: (hats) Hats New Album

Well, I'm getting confused, BUT a few months ago, I told you that Ivan
Doroshuck was recording a French Solo Album.
It was for a very good source of me in Musique plus (much music in Montreal).
 I didn't have more news BUT I just had from another very reliable source in
Toronto that Ivan just completed his new album in ENGLISH.

It seems that Ivan's "new sound" is back with technology (unlike the sideways
stuff).

I'm waiting for any other information.

Ciao!

Francis


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From: [e-mail]
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 05:30:14 -0500 (EST)
Subject: (hats) Pictures.

Hello hats fan!

I just mailed all the pictures of MWH during 1983 to 1988.  So if you are
waiting for them, you should receive them this week.

OK   due to all the request I had, I will probably go and reproduce another
10 or 15 copies.

If anyone wants MWH pictures from 1983 to 1988, leave me a message, I will
send you samples so you can judge by yourself if you want it.  There is to
package.  4 pictures in 4X6 format everything included for 9$  and the big
package, 2   4X6 and
2   8X10 format for 25$.

So if you are interested, leave me a message this week.

Ciao!

Francis


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From: Carl <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 12:19:38 +0000
Subject: (hats) New Folk Of The '80s EPs

I have a friend that found a stack of the Men Without Hats EP "Folk Of
The '80s." He says that they are brand new and still in the shrink wrap.
He asked me to find out if any of you would be interested and what they
would be worth.

If you guys are interested I can act as a middle man and you can use a
credit card to buy them. E-mail me directly: [e-mail]

There are only 10 copies so I'll take the 10 best offers by 1/31/97 and
pass them along.

Carl Oglio

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From: Mike Best <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 12:47:59 -0700 (MST)
Subject: (hats) Hats New Album?

Francis wrote: It seems that Ivan's "new sound" is back with technology
(unlike the sideways stuff).

Was it the beginning of Pop Goes The World where someone said "This is what
we've all been waiting for....".  Yippee etc!  (Is it April 1st yet or am I
dreaming?)

Dancing with his fingers crossed!


Mike



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