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From: hats@cs.uwp.edu (hats mailing list)
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 17:50:39 -0700
Subject: Re: (no subject) + Freeways
Really-From: Senz <senz@cwave.com>
> > Really-From: Senz <senz@cwave.com>
> >
> > Whoa! Looks like MWH ratings have gone from statistically interesting to
> > statistically important literally over night! (I guess I'll have to remember
> > to always post data horizontally.) Thanks people and from that democratic
> > topic I move on to my question of the day...
> >
> > Has anyone noticed that Ivan quoted John Lennon on the PGTW lyric sleeve?
> > Ivan points out that John said "We must strive the Ivan while it is hat". It
> > wouldn't be hard to convince me that John was a big MWH fan even if the
> > time-line makes this unlikely. (I think these two would have worked well
> > together) Therefore there must be another reason for what John said. Does
> > anybody know? My guess is that the reference to "Ivan" is of the Russian
> > people and "hat" meaning, in style or timely. Translation: "Lets make peace
> > with Russia while we still can"
> > Am I close?
>who hats
sorry, this escaped on me (these topics have been discussed thoroughly)
I've been getting two copies of each letter sent to the hats listing. I
was checking to see if I was still on the old address.
BTW I have another copy of the Freeways LP for anyone who might want it
(even in these days of the bootleg).
senz <senz@cwave.com>
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From: hats@cs.uwp.edu (hats mailing list)
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 20:33:23 -0400
Subject: Re: MWH Experts
Really-From: kerim.sursal@utoronto.ca
Antarctica, it seems, is destined to be dropped from an ideal 2-in-1 CD,
but what's this business of leaving Unsatisfaction off? I love that song!
And every MWH song, for that matter (we'll pretend we don't know about
some of the songs on "Sideways"..) I've been away from this list for a
while (I got 213 new messages yesterday), so it looks like there IS no
2-in-1 as of yet, eh? I'm just wondering.. is this "ideal CD" discussion
a legitimate debate, or simply pure conjecture? (i.e. a total waste of
time).. will we EVER see RoY & Folk3 on CD? (why the hell they were never
released years ago is beyond me.. you can find Belinda Carlisle & Rick
Astley on CD, for friggin' in the riggin'..)
- -+!+-
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From: Grebssorg@aol.com
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 21:08:38 -0400
Subject: Re: Dump Antartica?
Carl (et al),
I would like to change my vote. I originally thought we should go with
edited versions, keeping "Antarctica". Then the following occurred to me:
If, hypothetically speaking, someone were to make a bootleg CD of the first
EP and _Freeways_, it would certainly have the longer, original version of
"Antarctica" on it. This is where, I must admit (despite having the song on
my cassette version of _ROY_) "Antarctica" really belongs.
But under any circumstances: Don't -- Don't -- DON'T remove a song (such as
"Unsatisfaction" or "Eurotheme", as suggested) which isn't available on CD
elsewhere! That would be a FAR more heinous crime than editing a couple of
tracks which are available elsewhere.
Go get 'em, Carl! Thanks for fighting for us!
Swahili Steve
<http://members.aol.com/grebssorg>
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From: hats@cs.uwp.edu (hats mailing list)
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 22:40:48 -0400
Subject: Reply to: Re: Dump Antarctica?
Really-From: The Buzzardman <TBuzzardman@wow.com>
I'm new to the MWH club, although I dare say that I discovered the Great Ones
here in the States before anyone else. But, please tell me, someone, what this "twofer" cd is all about. Is there a record company that has the balls to release a compilation of the truly underexposed MWH? Also, where the hell can I get a cd of Rhythm of Youth? And where and what is Ivan the Great doing these days? I
long for more!
Ivan Rules!!
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From: hats@cs.uwp.edu (hats mailing list)
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 23:15:55 -0400
Subject: Re: MWH Experts
Really-From: thevman@q.continuum.net (Jim V.)
I take that back, keep disco safety dance and dump Cocoricci(la Tango des
Voleurs).
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From: ManMachn2@aol.com
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 23:34:25 -0400
Subject: New
I'm new here, don't have much to say, and only have one MWH album - the
first. Does anyone know what synths/drum machines were used on Rhythm of
Youth? I presume Roland and Linn mostly. Anyone know the truth? Thanks.
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From: ElKrupla@aol.com
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 23:36:58 -0400
Subject: Re: Dump Antarctica?
In a message dated 96-08-16 01:53:32 EDT, you write:
[edited]
<< Call me overly sentimental, but I'd much rather hear the albums as they
were back when I first bought them.
"Antarctica" is on "Collection", so people who really want it can find it
there. I think it should be removed if time/space is a consideration.
And I *like* "Unsatisfaction"... I love how that last buzzing note leads
into the drum for "Where Do The Boys Go?" >>
I also vote for dumping Antarctica. I like the song, but I like the idea of
having the cd keep the original Canadian release order of ROY. That makes
Antarctica the odd song out, as it were.
I also like Unsatisfaction...dopily repetitive as the words may seem, it is
one of my favorite MWH songs.
Dave Krupla, also checking back in...
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From: Jupiter8@aol.com
Date: Sat, 17 Aug 1996 10:26:07 -0400
Subject: Re: Instruments
In a message dated 96-08-16 23:36:02 EDT, ManMachn2@aol.com writes:
<< I'm new here, don't have much to say, and only have one MWH album - the
first. Does anyone know what synths/drum machines were used on Rhythm of
Youth? I presume Roland and Linn mostly. Anyone know the truth? Thanks.
>>
That's a matter of opinion I guess....I've heard they used everything from
Prophet-5's and 10's to Roland Jupiter-8's and Korg drum machines...then they
sampled the instruments on a Synclavier for live performances....
I have yet to hear the truth from Ivan though...
Roderick
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From: CS6521@ssu.southwest.msus.edu
Date: Sat, 17 Aug 1996 1:46:57 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Dump Antarctica
This two-fer CD is supposed to be RoY and FoTEIII, so obviously neither of these two albums should be altered from their original formats. The bonus track(s)
should be the first ones cut (or edited). But, if we have to be inane enough
to actually vote on this thing, I'd vote for dumping "Antarctica". This makes
no difference, though, since it won't be released anyway. Why'd you bring it
up, Carl? Out of boredom? That's my reason for everything...
Jim Sustacek
sustacd@ssu.southwest.msus.edu
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From: "Hiram Lester Jr." <hwlester@pobox.com>
Date: Sat, 17 Aug 1996 15:16:51 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Re: Mailing list notification?
On Fri, 16 Aug 1996, Lazlo Nibble wrote:
> > The posts that come from the new list don't display "hats@xmission..."
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> > Is that going to change?
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> No, I plan to leave it that way to keep it consistent with the other lists
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This is much better this way. We were complaining about that on the old
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