ftp.xmission.com/2014.06.ftp.xmission.com.tar/ftp.xmission.com/pub/lists/hats/archive/hats.9612

Internet Message Format | 1996-12-30 | 73KB

From: Danny Rossi <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Living in China 12"
Date: 03 Dec 1996 20:43:59 -0500 (EST)

Today ina used record store, I came across the 12" of "Living In China".
It costs $12.  I was going to buy it only to scan the cover (I like
having a collection of picture sleeves <grin>), but I don't think I want
to keep it.  I already have the song, etc.  I wouldn't mind the picture
disk!  So, I will buy it (and then scan it) if someone here on the list
wants it.  So, I'll buy it for them.  Or maybe a trade?  Anyone have an
extra picture disc?
better for the American fans here since the US dollar is better the
Canadian :)

So all I lose is the price of postage which shouldn't be that much.


........"Where can we find a duck and a hose at this hour?".............
                       [e-mail]
                              Daniele Rossi



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Email [e-mail] with "info hats" in the message.
# Postings must go to [e-mail] -- replies go to original sender.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Thomas Norman <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Videotape Progress
Date: 06 Dec 1996 15:21:44 -0500

Hello,
Tom here (videotape guy).
    For those of you that are waiting for the video, I just mailed your
tapes.  I know this is about a week late.  I basically skipped a trip to the
post office.  On the other hand, I didn't stop copying tapes.  In other
words, I just mailed off #25-#42 all at once.  I am caught up now.  Those of
you that are 25-42, your tapes will be at your doorstep by Tues or Wed.
Enjoy!  #43-#50.... You can send your $10 now.
    Tom
[e-mail]


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Email [e-mail] with "info hats" in the message.
# Postings must go to [e-mail] -- replies go to original sender.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Danny Rossi <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Greatest hats flaw
Date: 06 Dec 1996 19:56:02 -0500 (EST)

The other day I bought "Greatest Hats".  Thsi is a question to everyone
who bought it:  does your copy have the dropout in "Freeways"?
It was fantastic hearing it on CD--so differnet from vinyl!  If you
listen closely you cna hear a tiny pop from the vinyl! :)


........"Where can we find a duck and a hose at this hour?".............
                       [e-mail]
                              Daniele Rossi



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Email [e-mail] with "info hats" in the message.
# Postings must go to [e-mail] -- replies go to original sender.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Thomas Norman <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Re: video tape
Date: 07 Dec 1996 08:18:43 -0500

At 04:21 PM 12/6/96 +0000, you wrote:
>I'm new to the list.  What is this about a video tape?
>
>--Howard Abraham
>============================================
>SpiderweBB <www.concentric.net/~jimware>
>Home of CraftGen!
>============================================
Well.  We've got a bootleg video of Men Without Hats (2 hrs.).  We all got
our rare footage together and copied it onto one tape, basically.

Here is the tape:  I.  Freeways Concert Video (Canadian TV) - 60 min
                  II.  8 MWH videos (SD,IL,WDTBG,PGTW,Moon,21st,HM,Side) - 30min
                 III.  Various interviews - 30min
not in that order but its all there.

To the list:

   Since there are many people new to the list who want a copy, can someone
make some copies from their tape?   When I hit 50, I am sending the original
tapes back.  I will make some copies off of my copy, but I could use some
help.  I guess its GOOD that i've got like 20 more people who want a copy.
This means that we are all exposing the band a bit more.

Tom
[e-mail]


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Email [e-mail] with "info hats" in the message.
# Postings must go to [e-mail] -- replies go to original sender.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (hats) Re: video tape
Date: 07 Dec 1996 09:00:54 +0000

I hate to be a demanding-newbie...

but if someone is willing to make a copy for me I would much
appreciate it.
============================================
SpiderweBB <www.concentric.net/~jimware>
Home of CraftGen!
============================================

# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Email [e-mail] with "info hats" in the message.
# Postings must go to [e-mail] -- replies go to original sender.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail] (Heidi)
Subject: Re:  (hats) Re: video tape
Date: 07 Dec 1996 10:46:02 -0500

  From: Thomas Norman <[e-mail]>
  Since there are many people new to the list who want a copy, can someone
  make some copies from their tape?  When I hit 50, I am sending the original
  tapes back.  I will make some copies off of my copy, but I could use some
  help.

Awhile ago I posted and said I was looking to sell my copy. I watched it
once and it's not something I expect to watch again. There's nothing wrong
with the tape, it's just doesn't have much of the era of MWOH that I like.
So if anyone wants it send me (not the list) mail.

=}{=

([e-mail])

# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Email [e-mail] with "info hats" in the message.
# Postings must go to [e-mail] -- replies go to original sender.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: LORD HASENPFEFFER <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) Greatest hats flaw
Date: 07 Dec 1996 11:12:42 -0500 (EST)

CC:    MYKEC
Subj:    RE: (hats) Greatest hats flaw

A tiny pop from the vinyl?  Damn!  ;-)

I've never heard "Freeways" in any format.
In fact, before I joined this list, I'd never even heard of it.
Spoiled you are!  (But don't take that personally, I'm just making a point.)

Myke

# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Email [e-mail] with "info hats" in the message.
# Postings must go to [e-mail] -- replies go to original sender.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: LORD HASENPFEFFER <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Videotapes Beyond 50
Date: 07 Dec 1996 11:13:05 -0500 (EST)

CC:    MYKEC
Subj:    Videotapes Beyond 50

I am in the last group set to receive a master video compilation from Tom.
When I receive mine, I will be willing to make further copies of it for
those who are either new to the list or could not make the first 50.

I have 2 HiFi VCRs that are each about 1 year old and in very good condition.

To receive a copy from me, you should mail to me a self-addressed, stamped
videotape mailer (with at least $3.20 (US) postage stuck on it) along with
a check or money order valued at $3.00.  I will use the money to buy a good
quality videotape for you onto which I will copy the MWH material prior to
mailing it in the mailer you sent for me to use.

Myke

# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Email [e-mail] with "info hats" in the message.
# Postings must go to [e-mail] -- replies go to original sender.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: LORD HASENPFEFFER <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Prints of MWH '88 Pix Available!
Date: 07 Dec 1996 16:05:34 -0500 (EST)

I don't know how much it'll cost me to make prints directly from my
negatives, but I'm about to find out now.  If you are interested in
having your own prints of the MWH pix that I scanned and uploaded to
my web site, post me a note!

Myke

# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Email [e-mail] with "info hats" in the message.
# Postings must go to [e-mail] -- replies go to original sender.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: (hats) Pop Goes the Radio
Date: 07 Dec 1996 23:11:49 -0500

Hatters,

99X, the local Atlanta GenX FM station played the song Pop Goes The World
last Sunday afternoon during its 80's show.  Thought you might like to
know...   =]

Brad

# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Email [e-mail] with "info hats" in the message.
# Postings must go to [e-mail] -- replies go to original sender.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: LORD HASENPFEFFER <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) MWH 5/5/88 Pix Info
Date: 08 Dec 1996 15:02:26 -0500 (EST)

The fine folx at Wal-Mart have done an excellent job with my negatives!

There are 18 4x6 prints in all.  I can get a complete set of them made for
you and mailed to you (within the US) for only $10.  This price includes the
nifty little, vinyl "Always" photo booklet Wal-Mart sells for an additional
$0.97..

Post me a note if you are interested.

Myke

[e-mail]
http://people.delphi.com/mykec

# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Email [e-mail] with "info hats" in the message.
# Postings must go to [e-mail] -- replies go to original sender.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Mike Best <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) UK Videos and CD duplicates
Date: 10 Dec 1996 03:59:11 -0700 (MST)

Mornin' all!

I was just sat in the bath contemplating the pit stop strategy for the next
round of the Sony PlayStation F1 Grand Prix (whadjamean you ain't got a
Sony? - ask Santa!) when I realised that my life was not complete without a
copy of the MWH video!  I'm sure you can understand...  Well, can someone
do me a UK version - or if someone in the UK has already got one can they
lend it to me for a couple of days so I can duplicate it several times
(just in case someone else wants a copy).  Answer direct to me please...
thanks awfully :-)

Well done to JR for getting the CD bootleg out there.  I'm annoyed that I
just didn't have the time to get things done myself, so I'm glad that
someone else picked up the baton and ran to the finish line - and wasn't
disqualified for taking stimulants (or that was JR's story anyway!).  For
anyone who missed out on the first batch (I know only 50 sets were made) -
I should have the CDs and a Mac copy of the artwork soon, courtesy of JR,
so I'll probably be able to do some more copies for anyone who wants them.
I'll post prices etc if anyone is interested.

Anyway, must dash as everyone wants christmas presents this year,
especially the young'n's (not mine thankfully) - their tastes in toys gets
more expensive by the minute - have you noticed that?  They'll get a MWH CD
and be happy... or I'll be _very_ angry!

Enjoy the festivities and remember 'you can dance if you want' unless
you're Aunty Maude...


mikey

PS Bonehead - what did you want?



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Email [e-mail] with "info hats" in the message.
# Postings must go to [e-mail] -- replies go to original sender.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: James Davis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) post from alt.music.alternative
Date: 10 Dec 1996 13:05:28 -0800

All,

Just a random post from alt.music.alternative; anyone heard of something similar?

Jim
-- mailto:[e-mail]

Organization: Chattanooga Online
Newsgroups:   alt.music.alternative

Let me tell you about a woman I knew named Lyssa Walker. She was a very
talented writer and artist, she loved people and cats and books and new
experiences, she did Tarot readings and played role-games (both as GM
and player). She DJ'd dances for SF conventions, not for pay but for love of
music. She said that "The Great Ones Remember" by Men Without Hats was
the anthem of Cthulhu. She taught me that I hadn't gotten too old for
rock, that there was still music out there that wasn't thrash or disco.
If not for her, I wouldn't be listening to some of the music I enjoy
today.

# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Email [e-mail] with "info hats" in the message.
# Postings must go to [e-mail] -- replies go to original sender.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail] (Solipsist Nation)
Subject: Re: (hats) post from alt.music.alternative
Date: 10 Dec 1996 17:28:18 -0500


>She said that "The Great Ones Remember" by Men Without Hats was
>the anthem of Cthulhu.

Wulp, in H.P. Lovecraft's Cthulhu mythos, the ancient eldritch beings from
the dark voids between the stars were known as the "Great Old Ones." Check
"The Call of Cthulhu" for more information than any sane being can
comprehend at once...

Now I have to go through the lyrics and check for references...

Josh



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Email [e-mail] with "info hats" in the message.
# Postings must go to [e-mail] -- replies go to original sender.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Kevin Gamble <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Ivan and H.P., etc
Date: 11 Dec 1996 14:03:26 -0600

    To further the MWH-Lovecraft connection: is it REALLY just a coincidence
that one of Lovecraft's flagship stories about the GREAT (old) ONES, "At the
Mountains of Madness", is set in ANTARCTICA?!

    Well, of course it is, but sometimes idle speculation can be fun. ;-)

    I've been having a great time with J.R.'s CDs and Tom's video this past
week.  What a treat to be able to see and hear all this (unfortunately) rare
stuff.  "In the 21st Century" is just a stellar video, and "Sideways" only
reaffirms my belief that MWH were ahead of their time.  That video looks more
like something from today than 1991 (while scraggly-haired, t-shirt-wearing,
low-slung Les Paul-playing youth are common in videos today, that was not the
case in '91!).

    And the version of "I Like" on the '85 concert CD is just roaring!  I had
to crank that up as soon as it lurched into the chorus riff, with all those
crunchy guitars.  Good to see Ivan behind the piano for "I Sing Last", too.

Quenched after a long trek through the desert,

Kevin

# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Email [e-mail] with "info hats" in the message.
# Postings must go to [e-mail] -- replies go to original sender.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail] (Wolf/Tod)
Date: 11 Dec 1996 17:45:38 -0500


I just came across a copy of a 12" vinyl record with  Ivan being
interviewed  about everything priour to the making of PGTW..... (it was
apparently released for industry and radio stations only.....  no music
.... just an interview ('bout an hour or so)

W



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Email [e-mail] with "info hats" in the message.
# Postings must go to [e-mail] -- replies go to original sender.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: (hats) I love the video!
Date: 11 Dec 1996 18:01:16 -0600 (CST)

I just watched Tom's video and I LOVE IT!  I had never even seen the "Safety
Dance" video before...it is truly amazing.  But it also gave me a theory why
continued commercial success eluded MWH - there wasn't enough of Ivan!  Not
only does he possess great musical talents, he also has great hair, and there
aren't any good pictures of him on their first two albums.  And I have one
question:  why is there a big letter T on the side of the big letters in the
back of the "I Like" video?

I really really really really wish J.R.'s CDs were here!

Jim Sustacek

# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Email [e-mail] with "info hats" in the message.
# Postings must go to [e-mail] -- replies go to original sender.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Carl <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Hats Photos
Date: 11 Dec 1996 15:05:44 +0000

I am preparing the Men Without Hats ROY & Folk packaging and I need some
photos. Any fans out there with good photos from that era?

I can give you photo credit, some promos and pay your expenses in return
for your efforts.

E-mail me direct and let me know!

Carl @ Oglio Records

# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Email [e-mail] with "info hats" in the message.
# Postings must go to [e-mail] -- replies go to original sender.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Carl <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Photos & Memorabilia
Date: 12 Dec 1996 08:11:29 +0000

Hi again Hats fans. Carl from Oglio again. In addition to photos we
could also use memorabilia like buttons, picture discs, etc.

As before I can offer compensation for your costs and throw in a couple
copies of the CD and a credit in the booklet.

Carl @ Oglio Records

# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Email [e-mail] with "info hats" in the message.
# Postings must go to [e-mail] -- replies go to original sender.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Danny Rossi <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) Hats Photos
Date: 12 Dec 1996 17:43:28 -0500 (EST)

> I am preparing the Men Without Hats ROY & Folk packaging and I need some
> photos. Any fans out there with good photos from that era?

Funny how it takes an American to help out a Canadian band! :)  Well,
here's a Canadian helping out the American helping out the Canadian
band....you are thinking "whatever" :)

You probably saw the posting I wrote about the 12" to Livign in CHina.  I
can scan that if you like. Only, I need to know exactly how to scan it.
I am just an amateur at it.  Anyone can help?  300 dpi is way too much as
far as I know. right?  I also have the ps of "I Like" (the promo) and
"Antarctica" (UK).  Also the "Moonbeam" CDSingle cover as well but it's a
bit worn out..  Is this the one for the Europe release?

So anyone out there who can give me advice on scanning it...I have an
AGFA SnapScan, and it goes up to 300x600 (or is that 300x300??--my gosh,
I don't evne know?!?!?!  Well I only bought it for my web page...which
reminds me, here is my URL:  www.interlog.com/~daniele)

> I can give you photo credit, some promos and pay your expenses in return
> for your efforts.

Some promos??

> E-mail me direct and let me know!

........"Where can we find a duck and a hose at this hour?".............
                       [e-mail]
                              Daniele Rossi



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Email [e-mail] with "info hats" in the message.
# Postings must go to [e-mail] -- replies go to original sender.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Danny Rossi <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) my web page  DON'T!!!
Date: 12 Dec 1996 18:36:37 -0500 (EST)


Hello,

sorry for flooding everyone's mailbox! I just found out that my stupid web
page is all screwed upan dI can only fix it tomorrow, so wait until
tomorrow afternoon Eastern (if you really really want to see it that is
<grin>).  there are no references to Men Without Hats.  Although there
should be.  It's a comic book I made.  An Online Comic Book.  My drawings
are very amateurish but I'm learning.

........"Where can we find a duck and a hose at this hour?".............
                       [e-mail]
                              Daniele Rossi



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Email [e-mail] with "info hats" in the message.
# Postings must go to [e-mail] -- replies go to original sender.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: kahlil <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) ICE On Line
Date: 12 Dec 1996 20:25:19 -0800

A humorous moment from ICE magazine online http://www.icemagazine.com
Also, in our December 6 "News Flash," we mentioned a couple of
"Collector's Corner" items that didn't make it to the recent issue of
ICE (# 117). The first
concerned '80s new-wave act Men Without Hats; the second read as
follows:

"Warthog delivers a rough but listenable audience recording of
Metallica's Motorhead tribute set at the birthday of Lemmy Kilmister on
Live at Lemmy's
Birthday Bash 1995 (Los Angeles 12/14/95). This disc is filled out with
10 demos and rehearsals from band's self-titled album recorded in the
summer of
1990."

It should be pointed out that this is not an "official" release, and
therefore should not have been mentioned in the same breath as the
Canadian Men Without
Hats album; in fact, it was a leftover not from "Collector's Corner,"
but rather our "Going Underground" column. In other words, it is a
"gray-area" recording -
legal only in some parts of Europe.
Regardless of the reason, I think the bit about "...should not have been
mentioned in the same breath..." is a classic!

The MWH text refered to is:
* The Great White North now has its own counterpart to Oglio's Men
Without Hats Collection: Aquarius Records' Greatest Hats, which omits
"Messiahs
Die Young," "Hey Men," "Moonbeam" and "I Got the Message (Extended
Version)" in favor of "Freeways (Euromix)," "On Tuesday" (which features
Ian
Anderson on flute) and the band's most recent Canadian hit, "Sideways."


KGB.

# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Email [e-mail] with "info hats" in the message.
# Postings must go to [e-mail] -- replies go to original sender.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail] (Heidi)
Subject: (hats) Re: Hats video for sale
Date: 15 Dec 1996 11:58:35 -0500


The tape I posted about wanting to sell is spoken for. So for the rest of
you who had sent me mail about it, sorry but I only had one.

=}{=

([e-mail])

# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Email [e-mail] with "info hats" in the message.
# Postings must go to [e-mail] -- replies go to original sender.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Danny Rossi <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) I got my bootleg CDs!
Date: 16 Dec 1996 20:45:55 -0500 (EST)

Today my cds finally came!  Add me to the list to people who are so
amazed at the sound quality.  I  can't beleive how clear the Freeways
concert is.  So far I'm in the middle of the Freeways Live CD (Ban The
Game) and I already listened to the first Freeways Cd.  Why are the Cds
gold on top (not the label) and green underneath?  GREEN?  but the cds
still play awsome, so I am not worried.  I've never seen green Cds
before.  The covers of the CDs are desgined nicely (I like the touch with
the RoY LP cover) but the only thing I hate about the Cds is the Freeways
Live tracks fade in and out between the tracks.  Oh well, you couldn't do
anything about the commercial breaks anyway.  :)


So, thank you very much Mike Best and J.D. All the work paid off!  Did
Ivan receive his copy?  I can't wait to hear the RoY Live CD!

Oh yeah, I thought the Winnebago Song was going to be on the Cd as well.
Last minute change?



........"Where can we find a duck and a hose at this hour?".............
                       [e-mail]
                              Daniele Rossi


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Email [e-mail] with "info hats" in the message.
# Postings must go to [e-mail] -- replies go to original sender.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: kahlil <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Freeways (2nd edition)?
Date: 16 Dec 1996 22:06:46 -0800

Anyone out there planning to reproduce the recent 3xCD set or at least
disc one for distribution?  I'd love to have a whole set, but I
especially would like the studio material on CD.  I'd like it to be of
the same quality that everyone has been raving about from J.R.'s first
edition.

Thanks,

KGB.

# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Email [e-mail] with "info hats" in the message.
# Postings must go to [e-mail] -- replies go to original sender.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Danny Rossi <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) different picture
Date: 17 Dec 1996 11:31:37 -0500 (EST)

Hello,

I've finished listening to the bootlegs and I love it.  I love listening
to concerts from where I live :)  Anyone know where in Toronto they
performed that concert?  The funny part is in between a song you hear
some people in the audience singing "Happy Birthday".  Must have been a
restaurant or night club.

Last night I asked why the CDs were green then one of my friends told me
it was because they were CDROM-Recordables.  Is it possible for me to add
some songs on them (that is if I did have a recording device for
CDROMs!).  Just curious.

As for the Freeways CD, I noticed the picture of Ivan on the back seemed
to have come from the original photo that came with the LP.  It's a
little differnet from the one that came from my Freeways LP.  Ivan looks
like he's a little angry.  I wonder if differnet releases of Freeways had
different pictures?



........"Where can we find a duck and a hose at this hour?".............
                       [e-mail]
                              Daniele Rossi



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Email [e-mail] with "info hats" in the message.
# Postings must go to [e-mail] -- replies go to original sender.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Mike Best <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) CDs and stuff
Date: 17 Dec 1996 13:16:52 -0700 (MST)

I'm not actually sure why the CDs come out green, its probably something to
do with the tracking and the way they're cut.  If you look at a CD-R thats
been cut already, looking from the middle out you'll see a colour change.
The inside bit is the actual data (if you look _really_ carefully you'll
see the lumps where the 1's and 0's are actually cut - everything is stored
in 16-bit digital remember!) whereas the outer area (usually darker) is the
virgin section.  This is all different to 'normal' CDs as these are stamped
on a press (from a master copy) and the data spread over the whole disk -
that's what I read somewhere anyway :-)  Most LP sized disks can take up to
74 minutes of stereo sound, some even go to 78 minutes but the
recommendation is not to put more than 630Mb of data on, which in my book
of "10Mb = 1 minute stereo" doesn't really compute properly.  I've actually
cut an audio disk from my Mac that was 72 minutes so things are all wierd
in this digital world of ours...

Danny - I wouldn't try adding material if I were you! It might work but it
really depends on the machine you're using.  Disks are sometimes written in
'sessions' ie built up over several cuts of the disk - Macs can usually
read these type of disks, maybe PCs can as well (inferior stuff those
though ;-) but on the Toast software that I use to write disks it states
that most normal CD players can't read multi-session disks so you would
only be able to get access to the first session on the disk - the important
MWH stuff though!  I've got some aborted disks round here somewhere so I'll
give it a go tomorrow and let you now...

Henning and Kahlil - JR has sent me (posted last Saturday but still not
received!) a copy of the 3 original disks, so as he's done the first 50 I
may be in a position to duplicate another batch of CDs!  I'm trying to get
a price on a bulk order of blank disks but things here in the UK are still
quite expensive.  The latest price is 5.25UKSterling which is about
7.50USDollars each, and if you add the cover printing costs then it'd work
out more expensive than JR's originals.  I'll keep the list posted on that
one as I know that several more people want a copy.  As for the other
tracks that weren't on the original 3 disks, well I suppose I might get
around to releasing the follow-up before the end of '97... more live, a few
different mixes etc

Anyway, back to Wang Chung's CD Points On The Curve...

MB



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Email [e-mail] with "info hats" in the message.
# Postings must go to [e-mail] -- replies go to original sender.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Jeff Schachter <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) recording CDs and the bootlegs
Date: 17 Dec 1996 15:44:07 -0500 (EST)

Hi!

First of all, put me down as another person who'd like a copy of the bootleg
CD's if anyone is making more.  I missed them last time.

As I understand it, the CDs are green for the following reason (I could be
wrong on the details):

The data side of the CD is coated with some kind of organic polymer material,
which is green.  The label side is coated with gold.  When the data is written
to the CD, the laser burns through the organic polymer layer, so that the gold
layer shows through.  In this way the CD can have alternating spaces of
reflection and absorption that translate to 0's and 1's when read with a
conventional CD player.

Jeff


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Email [e-mail] with "info hats" in the message.
# Postings must go to [e-mail] -- replies go to original sender.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Danny Rossi <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) green Cds from Mars
Date: 17 Dec 1996 16:12:12 -0500 (EST)

Thanks to all who wrote on why the Cds are green.  It was so interesting
to read about it.  Green polymers and gold stuff!  WOW!  Does that mean I
should feel bumps on the cds?   I don't.  I guess it's all a chemical
reaction with the laser beam and the gold.


........"Where can we find a duck and a hose at this hour?".............
                       [e-mail]
                              Daniele Rossi



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Email [e-mail] with "info hats" in the message.
# Postings must go to [e-mail] -- replies go to original sender.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: GARBOWSKI JR CHARLES R <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) tab?
Date: 17 Dec 1996 17:32:53 -0500 (EST)


Someone mentioned long ago that they were trying to put out a book of
music for MWH material.  I was wondering if this person was still on the
list and if you were still trying to get a copy out to me.

Thanks,
Charlie


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Email [e-mail] with "info hats" in the message.
# Postings must go to [e-mail] -- replies go to original sender.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Russ Kemsley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) WOW! (J.R.'s CD Review)
Date: 18 Dec 1996 07:50:33 UT

These CDs are INCREDIBLE!!!

freeways:
Oh man! What a fantastic job! I have wanted to hear the Folk of the 80's EP
for over 12 years now. And to finally hear it (for the first time ever) on a
perfectly mastered CD...BLISS! The Freeways EP is superb as well as the Pop
and Moonbeam edits. I particularly like the +-8 minute versions.

ROY Live:
This one nearly made me weep! My favorite MWH tune, Things In My Life, finally
on a CD...and what a beautiful rendition of it as well. I also found it novel
that Ivan repeated the titles of the songs after (almost) each one. And the
quality puts most of my retail CDs to shame!

Freeways Live:
"I like" the sound of the crowd a little better on this one as opposed to ROY
(some of those whohoo's kind of hurt my ears...although had I been at that
concert, I would have been whooping it up pretty good myself). Again...just
the best quality sound.

My main CD player didn't want to cooperate with the CD's, but it doesn't
surprise me as it is very picky about what CD's it plays...this warrants usage
of my extended warranty!!! The CD's do play fine in all the other CD players I
have tried and just fine in my CDROM drive.

The labels and packaging:
Especially the labels...Great job J.R. This was obviously a labor of
appreciation of the art.

Thank you for sharing your talents with us J.R.

Russ ([e-mail])

# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Email [e-mail] with "info hats" in the message.
# Postings must go to [e-mail] -- replies go to original sender.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Woody Zenfell <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) CDs, their packaging, and missing persons
Date: 18 Dec 1996 02:39:26 -0600 (CST)

Just wanted to say thanks JR, the CD's do sound excellent.  And the
packaging surprised me - particularly the printing on the CD itself.
Obviously a work of much time and talent.

The picture of Ivan looks particularly good on the back of the 'freeways'
CD.  Is this when he was young young?  Could be just a good photo I
guess.

Now on to the mystery.  The Rhythm of Youth LP displays three (red and
blue) panels, each with a person (presumably a band member) on it.  Ivan
is obviously easy to recognize, and the guy next to him looks like a
brother [Stefan?]. But, who is the third guy, and how come he doesn't
appear in the CD liners?  A "temporary" member deemed less worthy?  The
silent shadow of the late Allan McCarthy?  Only two faces fit well in the
square?

Woody

# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Email [e-mail] with "info hats" in the message.
# Postings must go to [e-mail] -- replies go to original sender.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Christopher Handshaw <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Trouble
Date: 18 Dec 1996 15:06:39 +0000

Someone else mentioned it, so I thought I better bring it up as well...
The 3 CDs are great but my CD player is having trouble with them. It takes
ages finding the index track, and then once it's found that, it takes even
longer finding the start track. Once started, it'll play right the way through
without complaint.
I know it's not my CD player because it doesn't do it with any other CDs and
it a new Technics player, barely a year old.

This is a statement, not a complaint :)  Anyway... it's worth the wait.
I Love the PGTW remixes. Nice idea to re-sing the words rather than just
resequence everything. Oh, and the live up-beat version of Freeways has opened
my eyes to a song I listened to, but that never really took much notice of.

Chris.

# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Email [e-mail] with "info hats" in the message.
# Postings must go to [e-mail] -- replies go to original sender.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Carl <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) JR's Bootlegs
Date: 18 Dec 1996 08:01:01 +0000

I can't find JR's address to ask about the boots. Anybody out there have
it handy?

Carl @ Oglio

# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Email [e-mail] with "info hats" in the message.
# Postings must go to [e-mail] -- replies go to original sender.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: (hats) The cds (of course)
Date: 19 Dec 1996 04:21:38 -0500

Thought I'd just throw in my two cents since everyone else has:

The cds are great!  I'm very happy to see so much effort put into these cds
and commend JR and the others for the material gathered.  If anyone has a
chance to buy them and hasn't, they should RIGHT AWAY.  For me (at least) the
Hats are awesome live...

I'm willing to put up with the minor glitches with the tracking/drop-outs
(VERY MINOR) because the whole is SO WORTH IT.

THANKS EVERYONE!

shriekman

# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Email [e-mail] with "info hats" in the message.
# Postings must go to [e-mail] -- replies go to original sender.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail] (Ian Ingham)
Subject: (hats) Thanks guys!!!
Date: 19 Dec 1996 09:36:24 -0500

Just wanted to toss in my thanks also to both Tom and J.R. for the
fine, dedicated work they have put in to help enrich the Hats legacy
among the fans!

ian


Ian Ingham
Phone: [phone]
FAX: [phone]
E-Mail: [e-mail]

# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Email [e-mail] with "info hats" in the message.
# Postings must go to [e-mail] -- replies go to original sender.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: FRANCOIS BLAWAT <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) MWH CDs
Date: 19 Dec 1996 08:52:34 -0600

Hi all!

   Any word on more CDs? I've missed both chances on getting the list
because I receive my E-Mails later than everyone else. I'm hoping
someone will be offering CDs again.

Thanks,

Francois


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Email [e-mail] with "info hats" in the message.
# Postings must go to [e-mail] -- replies go to original sender.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Gregory T. Samson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) bootleg CD - me too
Date: 19 Dec 1996 12:41:38 -0800

is anyone re-pressing the bootleg 3CD set in the US...?

i think i NEED to have these.  thanks!

--
Gregory T. Samson, MD - Dr. Evil Microwizard
"this isn't music.  this is just noise!"



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Email [e-mail] with "info hats" in the message.
# Postings must go to [e-mail] -- replies go to original sender.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: (hats) CDs
Date: 19 Dec 1996 21:53:53 -0500

Hey!!!!

Are the CDs everyone is raving about still available?  I'm getting mixed
messages.
I've finally gotten ahead in my bills and xmas shopping and am ready to turn
loose of twenty seven bucks.  Somebody please tell me!!!!!!    =]

Brad Day

# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Email [e-mail] with "info hats" in the message.
# Postings must go to [e-mail] -- replies go to original sender.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: (hats) more CD praising...
Date: 19 Dec 1996 21:50:43 -0600 (CST)

The CDs are wonderful!!!  I can't stop listening to them, even to work on my
research paper!  But I have a question:  was "Freeways" originally intended for
Folk III, like "Editions of You"?  It's such a great song!  If those two songs
would have been on Folk III, that album would have done much better...

Listening to "ROY Live",

Jim

# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Email [e-mail] with "info hats" in the message.
# Postings must go to [e-mail] -- replies go to original sender.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: (hats) Dr Bruce Murphy?
Date: 20 Dec 1996 11:41:06 -0500 (EST)

        Does anyone know who Dr Bruce Murphy is?  I need to get in contact
with him.  Supposedly he has a MWH chat line or something.  If anyone can
help i'd appreciate it.

I'm also interested in those CD's everyones so hype about.  If you burn
anymore let me know.

Thanks

Bugg

"If all else fails, use the open eye."

- Chonky Orkin Boggles


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Email [e-mail] with "info hats" in the message.
# Postings must go to [e-mail] -- replies go to original sender.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "David Brady" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) more CD praising...
Date: 20 Dec 1996 09:47:58 -0800

>The CDs are wonderful!!!

Shut up already!!!! :)  I'm a digest reader (or was) and imagine my
happiness when I saw the first few subjects pop up:

>hats Digest               Sunday, 8 December 1996      Volume 02 : Number
>009
>
>In this issue:
>
>        (hats) Men Without Hats Day
>        (hats) MWH on CD...read me!
>        (hats) CD update

I quickly page through the digest.... of course the first message is
ironic:

>From: "Lazlo Nibble" <[e-mail]>
>Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 10:27:40 -0700 (MST)
>Subject: (hats) Men Without Hats Day
>
>> Note to Lazlo:  Regardless of whether or not the *size* of the digest is
>> cumbersome or not, the fact that I receive it only about once a week is
>cause
>> for some frustration.  It's hard to keep up a thread under such
>> circumstances.  Couldn't you please return it to a daily issue?
>
>I'm afraid the only way to do that is broken on xmission right now.  Maybe
>when they upgrade to majordomo 1.94 I'll be able to set things up that
way.
>

The next message has me WAY excited:

>From: Tempe Video <[e-mail]>
>Date: Thu, 21 Nov 96 13:33:08 -0400
>Subject: (hats) MWH on CD...read me!
>
>Greetings, fellow Hatters! Apologies up front for the long post, but =
>I think you'll like it...

Then...

>Date: Thu, 21 Nov 96 20:13:02 -0400
>Subject: (hats) CD update
>
>Hello all...
>
>Well, in the space of a few short hours we're up to 24 sets of CDs
>already. So, if you want them, cast your e-mails today.

Then...

>Date: Thu, 21 Nov 96 23:28:18 -0400
>Subject: (hats) CD Update, Vol. 2
>
>We're up to 34 of the aforementioned 3-CD set as of this writing. I'm
>going to start burning CDs tomorrow morning...even with a quad-speed
>burner this is going to take awhile! But, fear not...I'll get to everyone
>as the orders come in.

Then...

>Date: Sat, 23 Nov 96 16:53:46 -0400
>Subject: (hats) 3 CDs left to go...
>
>We're up to 47 sets of the 3 CDs at this writing. So, only three more
>slots left to fill.

And sadly..

>Date: Sun, 24 Nov 96 16:56:44 -0400
>Subject: (hats) 50 CDs...
>
>We've reached the magic number...50 sets of CDs have been "ordered". No
>promises after that, so please hold off sending me any more orders until
>I finish up with these...

Note the date that the digest actually was sent and you'll see why a MWH
fan might be frustrated.

Still, I'm hoping someone will continue on with the project and I'm sure
I'll eventually see my own copy of the set.

Much thanks to J.R. for at least bringing it one step closer!

--
David Brady
mailto:[e-mail]



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Email [e-mail] with "info hats" in the message.
# Postings must go to [e-mail] -- replies go to original sender.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail] (Donald Stroud)
Subject: (hats) Jaw on the floor
Date: 20 Dec 1996 09:59:49 -0800

After a crappy day at work yesterday, I returned home in a SEVERE funk.
But when I opened my mailbox, all my grey clouds disappeared, for there
were my MWH CDs!

I have been wanting to hear the tracks on "freeways" for years now... and
there they were, coming out of my speakers. I love tracing the history
of bands that I like (no pun intended), and listening to the sparse
arrangements on "Modern(e) Dancing" and "Utter Space" gave me a deeper
appreciation for the music that appeared on "Rhythm Of Youth".

The live concert discs are awesome... it's interesting to see that they
were performing some material live *years* before it saw official release
("Jenny Wore Black" in '85!).

J.R.... you deserve a medal for this. Wonderful, wonderful stuff. Between
these CDs and the "Young Ones" tapes I just ordered, I have given myself
the best Christmas gifts of all...

We can dance if we want to!

Don2
[e-mail]

# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Email [e-mail] with "info hats" in the message.
# Postings must go to [e-mail] -- replies go to original sender.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: (hats) David Brady's Comments
Date: 20 Dec 1996 13:24:25 -0500 (EST)

David Brady summed up exactly what my experience was.  Majorly disappointed
to have missed out, but glad that such initiative was taken to gather
this material together.

I have learned the hard way that it is much better to not be a digest
subscriber.

Peace and Happy Holidays,

John Fracchia

# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Email [e-mail] with "info hats" in the message.
# Postings must go to [e-mail] -- replies go to original sender.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Rafael Tarud <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Pop Goes the World and Soccer
Date: 20 Dec 1996 16:48:28 -0400

Hello Everyone: I am new on this list and I am really happy I joined it. I
have been a fan of MWH ever since the first time I heard "The Safety
Dance". Here in Chile MWH is only known for Safety Dance, I Like and Pop
Goes the World.

The funny thing is that soccer is THE main sport, and some people really
go grazy for it, and one of the main anthems sung at Stadiums are with the
melody of Pop Goes the World (of course the words are different and in
Spanish), but no one knows where it comes from. This same thing can be
observed in Argentina, where soccer fans are also very energetic.

Well, I wonder if this has happened someplace else..maybe the melody of
Pop Goes the World is sticky, or leads to other inspirations....


Greetings to All, and Merry Christmas

Rafael Tarud Castano
Rafael_Tarudmacland.cl

# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Email [e-mail] with "info hats" in the message.
# Postings must go to [e-mail] -- replies go to original sender.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Bruce Murphy <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) Pop Goes the World and Soccer
Date: 20 Dec 1996 18:38:32 +0000

> Rafael Tarud wrote:
>
> Hello Everyone: I am new on this list and I am really happy I joined it. I
> have been a fan of MWH ever since the first time I heard "The Safety
> Dance". Here in Chile MWH is only known for Safety Dance, I Like and Pop
> Goes the World.
>
> The funny thing is that soccer is THE main sport, and some people really
> go grazy for it, and one of the main anthems sung at Stadiums are with the
> melody of Pop Goes the World (of course the words are different and in
> Spanish), but no one knows where it comes from. This same thing can be
>> observed in Argentina, where soccer fans are also very energetic.
>>
 > Well, I wonder if this has happened someplace else..maybe the melody
of
 > Pop Goes the World is sticky, or leads to other inspirations....
 >
 > Greetings to All, and Merry Christmas
 >
 > Rafael Tarud Castano
 > Rafael_Tarudmacland.cl
 >
 Wow, the world IS a funny place! What ARE the words to Pop Goes the
 World in Spanish? I'll send them off to Ivan... I'm sure he'll be
 surprised.

 --
 Dr. Bruce Murphy
 Ottawa, Canada
 Dictator for Life; Underground Miata Network
 http://www.ottawa.net/~tanner/umn

--
Dr. Bruce Murphy
Ottawa, Canada
Dictator for Life; Underground Miata Network
http://www.ottawa.net/~tanner/umn

# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Email [e-mail] with "info hats" in the message.
# Postings must go to [e-mail] -- replies go to original sender.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail] (Wolf/Tod)
Date: 20 Dec 1996 20:57:45 -0500




hey bruce,,, i miss the stunt chimps...... maybe a reunion show of sorts
??!! ( the band im  in would have loved to have played with you !!)

PS... i still have that Canadaian Musician Article... it was Very inspiring.
Thank You

wolf
[e-mail]



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Email [e-mail] with "info hats" in the message.
# Postings must go to [e-mail] -- replies go to original sender.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Bruce Murphy <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Re:
Date: 21 Dec 1996 10:39:32 +0000

Wolf/Tod wrote:
>
> hey bruce,,, i miss the stunt chimps...... maybe a reunion show of sorts
> ??!! ( the band im  in would have loved to have played with you !!)
>
> PS... i still have that Canadaian Musician Article... it was Very inspiring.
> Thank You
>
> wolf
> [e-mail]

Yikes! A "Stunt Chimps for Burgess Meredith" fan! This was a vaguely
industrial band that I did after the PGTW tour. Very serious and
menacing,  but as we found the whole industrial scene a little silly we
spent most of our time howling with laughter at our own songs. Kind of
became local heroes in Toronto for a while, but no one else ever heard
of us. (Got my first royalty cheque for a song called "Claves" in this
band... it was $1.37)
--
Dr. Bruce Murphy
Ottawa, Canada
Dictator for Life; Underground Miata Network
http://www.ottawa.net/~tanner/umn

# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Email [e-mail] with "info hats" in the message.
# Postings must go to [e-mail] -- replies go to original sender.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Searle" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Re: Videotape # assignments
Date: 22 Dec 1996 00:31:42 -0700


Dear Thomas,

Sorry it's taken me so long to get back to you.  I got your tape a while
back, but I just started a new job, and have been adjusting to that in the
last little while.

Last weekend, a similarly rapid Hats fan and myself sat down and watched
the video from start to finish.  You couldn't wipe the grins off our faces
with 30 grit sandpaper.  WOW!  You have done us all a great favour with
your obvious labour of love.

We particularly enjoyed the "Freeways" concert footage.  It exhibited an
energy (and enthusiasm from Ivan) that seemed to be sadly missing from the
live "Sideways" tour we saw here in Edmonton.  On the funnier side of
things, we were bemused by the obvious lip-synching that was occurring
during the Top of the Pops and Solid Gold segments.  Actually, "Jenny" was
even funnier as a guitar player, since her hands never once moved from the
lock she had on the frets.

Great accomplishment.  Between you, Carl at Oglio, and J.R. Bookwalter, I
think I may finally be able to end my quest for the old MWOH material.

Thanks again, and have a great holiday season!

Regards,

Steven Searle
Edmonton, Alberta

P.S.  I trust you got my money order safely.

# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Email [e-mail] with "info hats" in the message.
# Postings must go to [e-mail] -- replies go to original sender.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Danny Rossi <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) Pop Goes the World and Soccer
Date: 22 Dec 1996 13:28:54 -0500 (EST)



Hello, welcome to the list :)

> > The funny thing is that soccer is THE main sport, and some people really
> > go grazy for it, and one of the main anthems sung at Stadiums are with the
> > melody of Pop Goes the World (of course the words are different and in
> > Spanish), but no one knows where it comes from. This same thing can be
> >> observed in Argentina, where soccer fans are also very energetic.

There is a spanish version of it??  That must sound so interesting!! :)


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Email [e-mail] with "info hats" in the message.
# Postings must go to [e-mail] -- replies go to original sender.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: LORD HASENPFEFFER <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Hey Men!
Date: 24 Dec 1996 16:34:00 -0500 (EST)

Hey Men!

Um, I got my CDs!

As everyone else who've received them previously has stated, their
quality is top notch.  I and some of my friends collect and trade rare
concert recordings frequently - and this kind of quality is even rarer
(or more rare (or whatever))!

I was just typing to someone last week that if it weren't for The
Safety Dance and I Like, my fave MWH song would probably be Ban The
Game (from Rhythm Of Youth).  I said the problem with it though is that
it's just a little short intro.  I've always thought it would've made a
great song if it was longer.  Then yesterday, after ten years of
thinking this, I discovered that it was indeed a full length song when
played live!  What a kewl surprise!

What exactly is the source of this live material?

And I don't mind the fading between the songs at all!  In fact, I think
it's kinda neat.  Whenever I make a custom various artists compilation
tape in the future, they'll be a breeze to include because of it.

With regards to the rare studio stuff CD, I'm one of those who wondered
for twelve years why "(Part III)" appeared after the name "Folk Of The
80s".  Until I joined this list a few months ago, I'd never even been
aware of the existence of the original "Folk Of The 80s" EP.  It's very
nice to have it now and be able to listen to it anytime I wish, despite
the fact that I do not have a long history of wanting to and being
deprived of it at the same time as I know some of you who are reading
this do.

Is Antarctica listed as "Antarctica (1980)" on the original EP label or
is that just something included on my CD to differentiate it from the
version that was released in 1983?  The two versions don't sound much
different to me, although I haven't yet done any side-by-side
comparisons.  To me it just sounds like there is a bit more reverb in
the 1980 mix.

I have mixed opinions of "Freeways" having never heard it before
either.  I don't think it's the greatest thing MWH has ever done, but
it's a very good track for MWH curiosity seekers like myself.

I really hate 12" singles which pack in 4+ remixes of the same song.  I
cannot play them all the way through and be thoroughly entertained like
I can with most of the other discs I play.  I have owned the "Pop Goes
The World" and "Moonbeam" 12" singles since they were released.  I've
always thought "Moonbeam" was a much better song than it's chart action
suggested - and the 12" remixes of it are very good as well, however I
have always *hated* the PGTW remix 12".  All of the remixes on it sound
very slow which makes for a poor dance record.  Ivan also completely
stripped the melody from them, turning them basically into soft rap
remixes.  Raspberries to that!

But overall, these CDs are three of my most prized possessions.  If you
didn't take a number quickly enough to get your own set and would like
a copy of them on a single VHS HiFi videocassette, post me a note
privately.

Myke the Mad Hatter


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Email [e-mail] with "info hats" in the message.
# Postings must go to [e-mail] -- replies go to original sender.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Gregor Watson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) CDs.....
Date: 24 Dec 1996 22:18:14 GMT

Picture a quiet town in Scotland on Christmas eve. The postman knocks on the
door, "Delivery for Watson". Could it be 3 brilliantly presented good
quality CDs by Men Without Hats, no chance, I must be dreaming. I would've
been last Christmas. Thanks J.R. you've done a superb job.

Hope all you fellow Hat fans have as good a Christmas, I know I'm going to.

Best wishes,

Gregor



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Email [e-mail] with "info hats" in the message.
# Postings must go to [e-mail] -- replies go to original sender.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Danny Rossi <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Antarctica (1980)
Date: 24 Dec 1996 18:43:30 -0500 (EST)

> Is Antarctica listed as "Antarctica (1980)" on the original EP label or
> is that just something included on my CD to differentiate it from the
> version that was released in 1983?  The two versions don't sound much

What is the 1983 version?  Where is it?  The 1980 version sounds just
like the Freeways one and the one on "Collection".  Although, I did not
do any side by side comparisons myself.

As for the 12" of "PGTW", it's interesting. That one point where Ivan
"sings" the last verse (I think it is), he sounds a lot like the singer
from Guns And Roses.


........"Where can we find a duck and a hose at this hour?".............
                       [e-mail]
                              Daniele Rossi



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Email [e-mail] with "info hats" in the message.
# Postings must go to [e-mail] -- replies go to original sender.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Danny Rossi <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) I wish you a ....
Date: 24 Dec 1996 18:48:37 -0500 (EST)

Merry Christmas everyone!  If you don't celebrate Christmas, then Happy
Holidays :)


And now a shameful plug:
If you get bored over the next two days, take a look at my (rather slow)
page and read some comics.  The URL is www.interlog.com/~daniele

*<(:)

........"Where can we find a duck and a hose at this hour?".............
                       [e-mail]
                              Daniele Rossi



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Email [e-mail] with "info hats" in the message.
# Postings must go to [e-mail] -- replies go to original sender.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Mike Best <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) CDs
Date: 27 Dec 1996 06:31:01 -0700 (MST)

Just had a snowball fight with one of the neighbours kids - doesn't sound
too wierd but a) its the first white Christmas we've had in London for 25
years and b) I think it was a neighbours kid but I'm not too sure as I've
never seen him before!  Anyway, I'm sure the police will come round
later...

We've got a ghost!!!  We were at my parents for Christmas day and for some
reason we got talking about ghosts and stuff and my girlfriend mentioned
that she'd bee touched on the shoulder a few times when there was no-one
else in the flat.  She didn't mention it earlier as she thought that she
was going a bit mental.  I've noticed that sometimes the studio goes really
cold and I feel someone walk past me or past the door.  I thought that I
was going mad so I didn't mention anything either!  Anyway, whats this got
to do with the MWH list?  Well, you have to talk to ghosts and keep them
happy so we're calling ours Ivan after the great one who we all remember!
Obvious really wasn't it?

Right, Antarctica has just finished, and its now Security - well done JR
Bootlegger!!  I was surprised to hear a full version of Ban The Game as I
always thought that it was 51 seconds long.  And, as well as that, all that
'rock' stuff from a 'synth band'... marvellous.  Does anybody out there
know if they ever used sequencers in their shows, as I heard loads of bum
notes (no complaints though!) and wonder if any of it was ever sequenced.
Playing live drums over a sequencer is quite hard, the bass was played by a
guy with a piece of wood and some long strings, lots of guitar and
(obviously) live synths.

The reason why I ask is that in '85 I went live with my band Shootersway
Park and we used a Korg SQD8 (or was it a SQD1?) sequencer for most of the
stuff, so they were available at the time.  I know that loads of people
complain when they hear computerised music, but that never stoped Vince
Clarke did it?  Early Depeche Mode was mostly on tape (still is as far as I
know!), and people like Howard Jones rely on them totally.  I saw the Human
Leage at the Royal Albert Hall and they used no sequencers whatsoever -
everything played live.  I know that Live '83 sounds sequenced but I'm not
too sure, apart from the Linn drum(?) feeding a simple pulse to an analogue
pulse synth or something.  I'd be interested in any news on that...

Right, off to eat more turkey and annoy the neighbours.


Have a great new year and a marvellous birthday - I will :-)


Mike



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Email [e-mail] with "info hats" in the message.
# Postings must go to [e-mail] -- replies go to original sender.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Mike Best <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Antarctica
Date: 27 Dec 1996 06:32:08 -0700 (MST)

Just read the pre-xmas email - wasn't antarctica the b-side to one of their
12" singles?  Safety Dance i think it was because at the time i swopped the
7" for the 12" version and lost the track.  Or was that security?  i say
that as my RoY DAT has some extra tracks on it, including a shorter version
of antarctica which _definately_ sounds different to the freeways CD
version...  and it ain't just the reverb!

While Clare's away the ghost and I can play!  We can dance if we want...


Mike

PS I just went to send this email and I felt the ghost again - creepy or
what?  Must like reading the email before it is sent...


Mike & Ivan!!!



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Email [e-mail] with "info hats" in the message.
# Postings must go to [e-mail] -- replies go to original sender.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Lazlo Nibble" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Antarctica (1980)
Date: 27 Dec 1996 10:34:14 -0700 (MST)

>> Is Antarctica listed as "Antarctica (1980)" on the original EP label or
>> is that just something included on my CD to differentiate it from the
>> version that was released in 1983?  The two versions don't sound much
>
> What is the 1983 version?  Where is it?

The "1983" version is the mix that was released on its own as a single (which
actually came out in 1982, I think).  If you have a commercial release with
"Antarctica" on it that's not the original "Folk Of The '80s" EP or the
"Freeways" EP, the mix of "Antarctica" is the 1982 version.  You can check
the discography for more details:

    http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?men.without.hats
    [e-mail] (send message containing the command GET MEN.WITHOUT.HATS)

--
::: Lazlo ([e-mail]; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo)

# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Email [e-mail] with "info hats" in the message.
# Postings must go to [e-mail] -- replies go to original sender.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail] (Henning Schmiedehausen)
Subject: (hats) 3CDs on a DAT anyone?
Date: 23 Dec 1996 01:13:43 +0100

[e-mail] (Russ Kemsley) writes:

>These CDs are INCREDIBLE!!!

/me sobs into his keyboard...

Is there _anyone_ willing to put the three CD images on a DAT DDS-1
tape and send it to me? I do have a CD writer around here and I would
be even willing to make some copies...

    Ciao
        Henning

--
Henning Schmiedehausen       ...side by side in orbit... around a fairer SUN.
[e-mail]     http://www.franken.de/users/forge/henning

"Und wer Super Mario programmiert hat, sollte auch in der Lage sein, ein
bisschen Netzwerksoftware und die Java Virtual Machine zu portieren."
  -- Juergen Seeger, Chefredakteur des sog. "MULTIUSER MULTITASKING MAGAZIN"s.

# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Email [e-mail] with "info hats" in the message.
# Postings must go to [e-mail] -- replies go to original sender.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: (hats) MWH Show!!!!!
Date: 28 Dec 1996 16:06:41 -0500

Tomorrow nigth, there is a show of MWH on Musique Plus (Much music).  I dont
know if it's the same show from 1985....

But BE SURE that I will be in the front on my screen.!!!!  I will tape the
show Video and Audio.  As soon I know what show is it, I will let you know
guys!


Bye bye, happy holidays!

Francis Joannette


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Email [e-mail] with "info hats" in the message.
# Postings must go to [e-mail] -- replies go to original sender.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Thomas Norman" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) All 50 are mailed
Date: 28 Dec 1996 20:47:20 -0500

Hello.  Tom here again...

    Happy Holidays to everyone.  I have just mailed out the last 10 videos.
 All 50 videos have been mailed.  I will
try and get all the original videos (contributer's videos) out sometime
next week.

Tom
[e-mail]


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Email [e-mail] with "info hats" in the message.
# Postings must go to [e-mail] -- replies go to original sender.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Danny Rossi <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) A G-g-g-g-g-g-ghoooooost!
Date: 29 Dec 1996 12:14:58 -0500 (EST)

> We've got a ghost!!!  We were at my parents for Christmas day and for some
> reason we got talking about ghosts and stuff and my girlfriend mentioned
> that she'd bee touched on the shoulder a few times when there was no-one

Well that's wierd.  On christmas Day my uncle was about to film us with
his videocamera and he swore he saw a beared man looking at him from
inside the viewfinder.  Ok, so it isn't as interesting as Mike's story.....


........"Where can we find a duck and a hose at this hour?".............
                       [e-mail]
                              Daniele Rossi



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Email [e-mail] with "info hats" in the message.
# Postings must go to [e-mail] -- replies go to original sender.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: (hats) MWH SHOW
Date: 29 Dec 1996 22:12:11 -0500

Hi there,

Just to confirm you, I just listened the show and YES it was the "spectrum
show" in 1985 in Montreal.

So I just taped it again on Audio and Video Cassette.


bye
Francis


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Email [e-mail] with "info hats" in the message.
# Postings must go to [e-mail] -- replies go to original sender.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: (hats) Video / CD's
Date: 31 Dec 1996 01:39:04 -0500

Hey listfolk!

I just got Tom's video (I was #50, I think), and it's a remarkable piece of
work.  What a wealth of interviews, etc.!

When I get over my elation from the videotape, I will go back to sulking
about *not* being in the first 50 for the bootleg CD's.  Like a couple others
have mentioned, I found out the hard way that being on the 'digest' version
of the list can bite you in the butt.  (#$%*&!)

Is there any news on further availability of these items on CD?   (PLEASE!!!)


--Swahili Steve

# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Email [e-mail] with "info hats" in the message.
# Postings must go to [e-mail] -- replies go to original sender.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: LORD HASENPFEFFER <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Related subject?
Date: 31 Dec 1996 03:09:55 -0500 (EST)

This is kinda weird, but...

In 1979, when I was only 13 years old, I decided to try something novel and
record my favourite local radio station for a full 90 minutes - commercials
and all.  I used my dad's AM/FM/8-track recording system to do this.  I was
so fascinated by the results of this that I decided to do it again a month
later - and again three months later.  To this day, I still have these
8-track tapes of the radio.  (Although finding a player in decent shape and
working order is another matter.)

I continued to record the radio periodically from then on using whatever
equipment I had available at the time.  In 1980, I switched to cassettes.
Since then I have built a collection of some 150 or so radio tapes.  I have
done my best to document the changing styles of the hit parade as I hear it
via my local stations and can say that this hobby of mine only gets more
interesting as time marches on.  One thing I love about it is that I have
a neat way of listening in to my favourite songs of the past - a way in which
I know no other person can because few if any have ever done what I've done.

But the real reason I'm telling all of you about this is...  I recorded my
first radio 8-track on August 8, 1979.  Since that day, I've tried (and
have not succeeded really, but oh well) to record an anniversary radio tape
every August 8th.  I've also since learned that August 8 is a very interesting
date in that...

On 8/8/69, The Beatles walked across "Abbey Road".
On 8/8/74, Nixon resigned.
On 8/8/79, I recorded my first 90-minute radio tape
On 8/8/96, I debuted my web site on the WWW.

But the real reason I'm telling all of you about this is...  I just finished
watching my MWH video tape and couldn't help but freak out when I saw in the
closing credits that the Montreal MWH concert I just  bought from Tom Norman
was performed and taped on 8/8/85!

And if I'm KOnot mistaken, I recorded my favourite local station on
8/6/85 (my sister's birthday).  Unfortunately, I didn't wait two days longer
to do it!  Anyway, I have been wondering if anybody in this list would be
interested in having copies of my vintage radio tapes from the 80s as we
obviously all love the pop music from the early MTV era.

If so, post me a note and I'll tell you what I have available.
The nostalgic feel of these recordings is really intense - or perhaps if you
are too young to remember them, this could be the best way for you to have
your own piece of the past to NW< enjoy - a gift from someone who was there
when you couldn't be!

Myke

# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Email [e-mail] with "info hats" in the message.
# Postings must go to [e-mail] -- replies go to original sender.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Dr. Laura M.B. Kramer" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Happy New Year!!
Date: 31 Dec 1996 13:15:39 +0000

Since I missed sending Christmas/Hanukkah/Solstice greetings, I
thought I'd be more on the ball and wish everyone a happy, healthy,
and prosperous New Year!

Catch you next year!!  ;-)

:-) Laura

# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Email [e-mail] with "info hats" in the message.
# Postings must go to [e-mail] -- replies go to original sender.