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glencook-fans-digest Thursday, February 26 2004 Volume 01 : Number 277
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Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2004 19:29:47 -0600 (CST)
From: Steve Harris <HARRISSG@SLU.EDU>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Senjak sisters
Hi,
At a guess:
The exact familial relations in the Senjak family are one of those things
that Glen didn't quite get straight in his own mind, or at least not
entirely consistently.
Or maybe there are conflicting sources that the characters are using--or
conflicting stories that they are telling.
Steve
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Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 09:31:59 +0000
From: "J Morrigan" <skurbe@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Senjak sisters
Ahh I see. One more question. I was perusing the archives, and someone
mentioned that Cook was working on another black company novel. I thnik
this was a couple years ago, somewhere along the lines of '01 or '02. Any
news on that?
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Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 13:48:55 -0800 (GMT-08:00)
From: Lee Childs <childsl@earthlink.net>
Subject: (glencook-fans) Senjak sisters
J Morrigan:
I agree with Steve Harris that Glen Cook was not very clear about the relat=
ionship between the Senjak sisters. It may also have been true the Soulcat=
cher lied to Croaker about the death of her sister.
Lee Childs
THE BLACK COMPANY page 164
"[Soulcatcher said,] 'Didn't you know she murdered her twin sister when she=
was fourteen?'"
THE WHITE ROSE page 274
"He was a lord from a far western kingdome. A Baron Senjak who had four da=
ughters said to vie with one another in their loveliness. One wore the nam=
e Ardath."
THE WHITE ROSE page 277
"I found that piece that made the Lady gasp once, ploughed through that int=
erminable guest list till I found a Lord Senjak and his daughters Ardath, C=
redence, and Sylith. The youngest one Dorotea, the scribbler noted, could =
not attend."
"Credence married Barthelme of Jaunt, a renowned sorcerer. It is in [Track=
er=92s] memory that Barthelme became one of the Taken, but my memory is not=
trustworthy."
"Doratea married Raft, Prince-in-Waiting, of Start."
"Sylith never married."
THE WHITE ROSE page 278
"Lord Senjak was not KurreTelle."
=93Credence perished in the fighting when the Dominator and Lady took Jaunt=
in the early days of their conquest.=94
"There is no record of Doratea=92s death."
"Sylith drowned in a flood of the River Dream some years earlier, swept awa=
y before countless witnesses. But no body was found."
- -----Original Message-----
From: J Morrigan <skurbe@hotmail.com>
Sent: Feb 24, 2004 4:58 PM
To: glencook-fans@xmission.com
Subject: (glencook-fans) Senjak sisters
Hi, new to the list. Got a coupla questions.
How come Murgen and Lady refer to Soul Catcher as Lady's younger sister,=20
when the papers in the north say that Dorotea Senjak was the youngest of th=
e=20
4 Senjak sisters? Also, Catcher says that Lady murdered her twin sister=20
when they were kids, but if that were the case, how come Lady is the=20
youngest? Does that mean Lady was the second born of the twins? Obviously=
=20
someone's lying/mistaken, but does Cook ever come out and say who is older=
=20
than who?
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Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 21:19:50 -0400
From: Richard Chilton <rchilton@auracom.com>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Senjak sisters
Steve Harris wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> At a guess:
>
> The exact familial relations in the Senjak family are one of those things
> that Glen didn't quite get straight in his own mind, or at least not
> entirely consistently.
>
> Or maybe there are conflicting sources that the characters are using--or
> conflicting stories that they are telling.
>
I'd say conflicting stories.
The reason?
The whole bit about only a delicate web of sorcery keeping Lady and
Soulcatcher from killing each other. Obviously they knew each other's
True Name, hated each other (at least at times), and there had to be
sufficient safeguards to keep them from Naming each other - which might
have stretched to dropping hints about each other's True Name. Besides
this, Soulcatcher would know that if anyone knew that X grew up to be
Lady then that would be one less false guess for anyone trying to Name
Soulcatcher (and visa versa).
As for Soulcatcher taking about Lady killing her twin sister - it helps
to remember the circumstances. She'd just read one of Croaker's love
stories and probably wanted to shake him up, if only to see how well
he'd handle the pressure of shooting Whisper. Plus she's pretty much a
sick bitch at times :)
Then again, I can see Cook making a mistake on it. From what he's said
of his writing style he's not the sort to keep hundreds of notes
detailing the backstory of the book and could have easily made a mistake
between books.
Hust my thoughts,
Richard
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Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 07:17:08 +0000
From: "J Morrigan" <skurbe@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Senjak sisters
Oh this also reminds me of another question I had. If Soulcatcher was such
a problem, especially in Water Sleeps, what kept Goblin and One-Eye from
Naming her? They knew her name supposedly (Sylith I think, though I could
be misremembering and Cook didn't actually say what her True Name was), and
even if they didn't, they could just go through the rigmarole of naming the
rest of the names they knew (kinda like what the Dominator, Limper, and
Silent did at the end of The White Rose).
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