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glencook-fans-digest      Friday, March 21 2003      Volume 01 : Number 251




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Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 20:51:05 -0400
From: Richard Chilton <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Discworld

Steve Chew wrote:
>
> > BTW any Pratchett fans in the group. I like the Garrett series so much that
> >I was telling a friend about it a few years ago and she said I should try
> >the Discworld series. There are 27 of them now and I've read them all in
> >the last 2 years. Not only are they drop dead hilarious but they are really
> >good stories with strong characters and a fairly consisistent point of veiw.
> >
>         Any recommendations on where to start with Discworld?  I read one
> a long time ago and wasn't that enamoured so I haven't picked up another
> since.  I can't remember the title of the one I read, unfortunatley.
>

It depends on the story arc you want to follow.

The first two books are more obvious parodies (involving a tourist with
a modern outlook traveling in a fantasy setting), then there are the
Death books (Mort, Reaper Man, Soul Music, Hog Father, etc), the Night
Watch ones, the Witches (Equal Rites, Wyld Sisters, etc), the Rincewind
ones (Sourcery, Eric, etc), and some stand alone ones.
There are a number of fan pages out there that track the various books -
a great place to start to read the various arcs.  Occasionally something
(a character, a plot idea, whatever) from one arc will impact on another
one, but most of the arcs (and books) stand on their own.

Personally, I started with the first ones and went from there.  Most are
good and by switching arcs Pratchett keeps from descending into a Xanth
pundown situation.

Another book I'd recommend - Good Omens (by Neil Gaiman and Terry
Pratchett).  It's a new way of looking at the end of the world, with
some discworld style humor (e.g. When a bunch of Hell's Angels ask the
four motorcyclists [formerly horsemen, but you have to move with the
time] of the apocalypse what chapter they are from one of them answers
"Revelations 6").

Richard

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Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 21:33:01 -0600
From: "Lawrence Jenab" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Discworld

>
> Another book I'd recommend - Good Omens (by Neil Gaiman and Terry
> Pratchett).  It's a new way of looking at the end of the world, with
> some discworld style humor (e.g. When a bunch of Hell's Angels ask the
> four motorcyclists [formerly horsemen, but you have to move with the
> time] of the apocalypse what chapter they are from one of them answers
> "Revelations 6").
>
> Richard
>
>

I also enjoyed Good Omens and recommend it in  a sort of late afternoon
tea-time of the soul sort of way.

Larry

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Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 00:37:29 -0500
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Discworld

In article <b5bd6h$pf5$[e-mail]> you write:
> >
> > Another book I'd recommend - Good Omens (by Neil Gaiman and Terry
> > Pratchett).  It's a new way of looking at the end of the world, with
> > some discworld style humor (e.g. When a bunch of Hell's Angels ask the
> > four motorcyclists [formerly horsemen, but you have to move with the
> > time] of the apocalypse what chapter they are from one of them answers
> > "Revelations 6").
>
> I also enjoyed Good Omens and recommend it in  a sort of late afternoon
> tea-time of the soul sort of way.

That's a nice (see _Good Omens_ for a proper definition of "nice")
description.

As well, if you like the obviously non-Pratchettian parts of _Good
Omens_, note that Gaiman himself is a terrific writer.  _American
Gods_ in particular I liked a lot.  Haven't tried the Sandman comics
yet, though I expect to sometime.

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Dave Meyer
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Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 22:01:21 -0800 (PST)
From: Mike Koshel <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Discworld

Neil's Sandman series is an absolute classic of modern
fiction. I was with the series from the beginning and
was blown away by his storytelling right from square
one. It's a series that everybody should experience.

Mike

- --- [e-mail] wrote:
> In article <b5bd6h$pf5$[e-mail]> you
> write:
> > >
> > > Another book I'd recommend - Good Omens (by Neil
> Gaiman and Terry
> > > Pratchett).  It's a new way of looking at the
> end of the world, with
> > > some discworld style humor (e.g. When a bunch of
> Hell's Angels ask the
> > > four motorcyclists [formerly horsemen, but you
> have to move with the
> > > time] of the apocalypse what chapter they are
> from one of them answers
> > > "Revelations 6").
> >
> > I also enjoyed Good Omens and recommend it in  a
> sort of late afternoon
> > tea-time of the soul sort of way.
>
> That's a nice (see _Good Omens_ for a proper
> definition of "nice")
> description.
>
> As well, if you like the obviously non-Pratchettian
> parts of _Good
> Omens_, note that Gaiman himself is a terrific
> writer.  _American
> Gods_ in particular I liked a lot.  Haven't tried
> the Sandman comics
> yet, though I expect to sometime.
>
> --
> Dave Meyer
> [e-mail]
>
>
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Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 11:33:07 -0400
From: Richard Chilton <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Discworld

[e-mail] wrote:
>
>
> As well, if you like the obviously non-Pratchettian parts of _Good
> Omens_, note that Gaiman himself is a terrific writer.  _American
> Gods_ in particular I liked a lot.  Haven't tried the Sandman comics
> yet, though I expect to sometime.
>

_American Gods_ was good.  Good storytelling, characters, interesting
plot - but it was one of those books that as I read I was asking myself
"Why hasn't anyone figured out..." for a couple of the plot twists.  Not
to say that every part of the plot was obvious, but at times the
characters seemed far stupider than they should be.  It was almost a
relief at times when the characters went "Oh, that's what that means."

Richard

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Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 13:35:10 -0500 (EST)
From: [e-mail] (Steve Chew)
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Good Omens

>In article <b5bd6h$pf5$[e-mail]> you write:
>> >
>> > Another book I'd recommend - Good Omens (by Neil Gaiman and Terry
>> > Pratchett).  It's a new way of looking at the end of the world, with
>> > some discworld style humor (e.g. When a bunch of Hell's Angels ask the
>> > four motorcyclists [formerly horsemen, but you have to move with the
>> > time] of the apocalypse what chapter they are from one of them answers
>> > "Revelations 6").
>>
>> I also enjoyed Good Omens and recommend it in  a sort of late afternoon
>> tea-time of the soul sort of way.
>
>That's a nice (see _Good Omens_ for a proper definition of "nice")
>description.
>
>As well, if you like the obviously non-Pratchettian parts of _Good
>Omens_, note that Gaiman himself is a terrific writer.  _American
>Gods_ in particular I liked a lot.  Haven't tried the Sandman comics
>yet, though I expect to sometime.
>

    While I enjoyed Gaiman's "Neverwhere" I did not like "Good Omens."
Unlike the Garrett series, I didn't find the funny parts all that funny
and the action sections were mostly flat.  If I get a chance I'll pick
up another Pratchett to see if I hit the exceptions (for my taste).

                Steve


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Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 14:12:26 -0500 (EST)
From: Yuri Gorlinski <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Good Omens

On Thu, 20 Mar 2003, Steve Chew wrote:
>
>     While I enjoyed Gaiman's "Neverwhere" I did not like "Good Omens."
> Unlike the Garrett series, I didn't find the funny parts all that funny
> and the action sections were mostly flat.  If I get a chance I'll pick
> up another Pratchett to see if I hit the exceptions (for my taste).

  I felt that Good Omens was largely mediocre, falling well short of what
I would normally expect from either Gaiman or Pratchett individually.

  In general I tend to prefer the works of individual authors over
collaborations, as the sum never seems to equal the parts.  This is
especially true of sci-fi and fantasy.  Whether it's Pratchett/Gaiman,
Gibson/Sterling, or Brust/Lindholm, the collaborations always seem to pale
in comparison to the individual works.


Yg


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Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 00:03:35 -0800
From: Peter Leitch <[e-mail]>
Subject: (glencook-fans) a Black Company reader?

I was watching the 7th Calvary in Iraq on CNN last night.   One of the
units was called Bonecrusher.   It sounds awefully close to Bonegnasher.
I wonder who gets to name the units and whether they had ever read the
Black Company books?



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