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glencook-fans-digest Tuesday, July 23 2002 Volume 01 : Number 200
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Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:28:03 -0500
From: Pete Flugstad <pete_flugstad@icon-labs.com>
Subject: Book Lists (was Re: (glencook-fans) Angry Lead Skies)
Fraser Ronald wrote:
> Angry Lead Skies debuted at #1 in the Locus Paperback
> Best-Selling list. Woo-Hoo for Glen. Too bad those
> outside the genre category wouldn't give him a try so
> he could get on the NY Times list. Now that would be
> cause for celebration.
>
> Or has it happened yet?
Right now, NY Times list and similar are really based on
"opinions" of various "elite" book sellers, and those sellars
traditionally didn't take SF/Fantasy into account very much,
(the Times avoids "genre" book stores) as they didn't consider
them "real" fiction.
But there's a new sales tracking system coming online that
should change that. Here's the original reference:
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/05/08/1714230&mode=nocomment&tid=149
which has a link to
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A24656-2002May2
When some national newpaper (say USAToday) starts publishing these
numbers, it'll be interesting to see if SF/Fantasy experience the
same affect as "New Country" did.
You can tell that well-done SF/Fantasy is well liked by the US public
in general - just look at the popularity of such recent movies as
"Minority Report" (based on a SF novel by Phillip Dick), "The Fellowship
of the Ring", "Spider-Man", "Harry Potter", as well as historical
popularity of "Blade Runner" (also by Dick), "Blade", "Conan", the
original "Star Wars" trilogy, and even "ET". These are among the top
grossing movies of all time, yet books in the same genre consistently
fail to make it into the top-20 (or even top-100).
You just *know* that the main stream media just isn't reporting what
real people are buying and are intested in. They're stuck in their
elite snobbery book lists and aren't much interested in what "normal",
non-US-east-coast, non-US-upper-middle-class people are doing. I guess
it's a natural thing to do, they are reflecting their own buying habits,
but they seem so snobbish about it, like they're trying to _help_ the
rest of us to read the "right" things.
Anyway, my $0.02 worth.
Pete Flugstad
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Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 16:06:57 -0700
From: Joe Murphy <bagaele@netzero.com>
Subject: (glencook-fans) More on names
Spoilers for Water Sleeps and Soldiers live
I have noticed a couple more things on this topic that I found
interesting. One is when Soulcatcher is mumbling about Lady , she refers
to her as as Ardath. Is here memory going or is she as confused as the
Dominator was?
Next topic is Tobo. That is a nickname only. But he never receives his
real name from his Mom before she dies. Does this mean no one ever can
use his true name against him (short of calling Sahras spirit up).
Or does Tobo basically become his True name since he is never called by
anything else?
Murph
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