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glencook-fans-digest       Tuesday, June 4 2002       Volume 01 : Number 191




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Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2002 17:46:06 -0700
From: Michael Llaneza <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Monthly Mailing List Info

I'll take Brust as an authority and skip an obviously flame-ridden
thread full of AOL users :-)

Brust is right up there with Cook for me. I dread the day when I am
faced with a new book by each, and only enough money for one. Even if I
could get both, there's still the question of which to read first. Then
there was that pleasant day when I found the 5th book of the Gap series
by Donaldson (excellent series, far superior to his earlier works) which
ends a series, and "Bleak Seasons" which I had expected to end a series,
but instead started  a whole new phase. I got both and read "Bleak
Seasons" first.

Eric Herrmann wrote:

>The May mail archives have been posted to the website.
>
>Sorry, no news but I found a quote in RASFW that I thought was interesting.
>
>"For my tastes, Cook walks a delightful line between making things so real
>that they're no longer giving me what I read fantasy for, and so fantastical
>that I can't buy it.
>
>But more, he has the ability to pull off stuff that A) I didn't expect 2) I
>didn't want, and III) that satisfy me anyway.
>
>This is a rare and delightful skill." -Steven Brust
>
>This was excerpted from the thread "Why Glen Cook isn't that good".
><http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&selm=20020426193816.21647.0000501
>4%40mb-fa.aol.com >
>
>(Please start a new thread here if you want to discuss this.)
>
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Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 00:11:04 -0500
From: "Lawrence Jenab" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (glencook-fans) Angry Lead Skies

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or less "put up" with (the cliches, the juvenile sexism and teenage-boy =
fanasies of sexual prowess) and minimized everything I love about them =
(intricate, propulsive plots, intelligent commentary, a thoroughly =
realized alternate world, and few wasted pages).  The Dead Man was =
almost irrelevant, and all Garrett's friends were reduced to =
charicatures--and not in the sort of endearing way they are in the =
earlier books. =20

Worst of all was the virtual orgy of unappealing sex.  OK, Garrett is =
supposed to be a sort of soft-hearted rake, but he more or less lies in =
his bed and has strange, unappealing females of other species sexually =
assault him endlessly throughout the book.  The meeting scene at =
Morley's was a stultifying bunch of Garrett cliches--too much like all =
the other "big meeting scenses" in the series, but with no surprises--it =
really IS just a meeting--that goes on, and on, and on.  Without =
question the worst Cook novel I've read.  The whole thing felt tired.  I =
don't mean to bitch endlessly--I'm just disappointed that my favorite =
fantasy author laid an egg.  Cook just seems bored throughout.

My $0.02.  Hoping to see the crime novel soon.


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