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Subject: glencook-fans-digest V1 #173
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glencook-fans-digest Tuesday, April 2 2002 Volume 01 : Number 173
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Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2002 23:42:37 -0700
From: Eric Herrmann <shpshftr@xmission.com>
Subject: (glencook-fans) Monthly Mailing List Info
The March mail archives have been posted to the website.
The Glen Cook Fan Page celebrated it's 6th year online with 73,625 total
hits to date. And this mailing list celebrated it's 3rd year online with
3508 messages. Thank you for visiting and participating.
US:
"Angry Lead Skies" was released by ROC in March 2002.
France:
L'Atlante will continue publishing The Black Company in 2003.
No more books for 2002.
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Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2002 17:08:48 -0500 (EST)
From: schew@interzone.com (Steve Chew)
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Monthly Mailing List Info
>
>The Glen Cook Fan Page celebrated it's 6th year online with 73,625 total
>hits to date. And this mailing list celebrated it's 3rd year online with
>3508 messages. Thank you for visiting and participating.
>
Cool, how many people are on the mailing list now?
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Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 15:32:49 -0700
From: Eric Herrmann <shpshftr@xmission.com>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Monthly Mailing List Info
>> The Glen Cook Fan Page celebrated it's 6th year online with 73,625 total
>> hits to date. And this mailing list celebrated it's 3rd year online with
>> 3508 messages. Thank you for visiting and participating.
>>
> Cool, how many people are on the mailing list now?
The mailing list has held fairly constant to between 195 to 215 people.
There has been nearly 500 unique subscribers over the years.
The vast majority have tended to lurk.
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Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 18:23:19 -0500
From: David Bricker <qmorris@nasw.org>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Monthly Mailing List Info
'lo gents.
I'm one of the newest unique subscribers, then! (I joined yesterday.)
I'm a big fan of the first half of Black Company books and, inspired by the
book series' obvious influence on the Bungie creators of Myth: The Fallen
Lords and Myth: Soulblighter, edited a page a while back comparing the two:
http://myth.bungie.org/legends/relics/blackcompany.html
Anyway, cheers and thanks for existing!
David Bricker
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Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 20:21:04 EST
From: LadyRavven@aol.com
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Monthly Mailing List Info
I guess I am as well..however, I dont mean to lurk..lol...life is just sooo hecktic sometimes..lol
The lady Ravven
In a message dated Mon, 1 Apr 2002 6:30:07 PM Eastern Standard Time, David Bricker <qmorris@nasw.org> writes:
>
> 'lo gents.
>
> I'm one of the newest unique subscribers, then! (I joined yesterday.)
>
> I'm a big fan of the first half of Black Company books and, inspired by the
> book series' obvious influence on the Bungie creators of Myth: The Fallen
> Lords and Myth: Soulblighter, edited a page a while back comparing the two:
>
> http://myth.bungie.org/legends/relics/blackcompany.html
>
> Anyway, cheers and thanks for existing!
>
> David Bricker
>
>
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Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 23:04:16 -0800
From: Joe Murphy <bagaele@netzero.com>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Monthly Mailing List Info
David Bricker wrote:
> 'lo gents.
>
> ........book series' obvious influence on the Bungie creators of Myth: The
> Fallen
> Lords and Myth:.........
> http://myth.bungie.org/legends/relics/blackcompany.html
>
> David Bricker
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
So what we have here is absolutely no creativity whatsoever. I find it highly
distastefull when the works of an author are blatantly copied and no credit
(or money) is given to the one who made it happen. I certainly hope that Glens
laywers find this myth crap and sue the pants off them.
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Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 23:14:19 -0500
From: David Bricker <qmorris@nasw.org>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Monthly Mailing List Info
> From: Joe Murphy <bagaele@netzero.com>
> Reply-To: glencook-fans@lists.xmission.com
> Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 23:04:16 -0800
> To: glencook-fans@lists.xmission.com
> Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Monthly Mailing List Info
>
>
> So what we have here is absolutely no creativity whatsoever. I find it highly
> distastefull when the works of an author are blatantly copied and no credit
> (or money) is given to the one who made it happen. I certainly hope that Glens
> laywers find this myth crap and sue the pants off them.
Please tell me that what we have here isn't typical of this listserv...
because if it is, I'm unsubscribing right now.
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Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2002 22:24:19 -0600
From: David George <d.s.george@verizon.net>
Subject: RE: (glencook-fans) Monthly Mailing List Info
There's a listserv archive on the website. go read some of
it and decide for yourself. happy motoring.
- -----Original Message-----
From: David Bricker
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 10:14 PM
To: glencook-fans@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Monthly Mailing List Info
> From: Joe Murphy <bagaele@netzero.com>
> Reply-To: glencook-fans@lists.xmission.com
> Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 23:04:16 -0800
> To: glencook-fans@lists.xmission.com
> Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Monthly Mailing List Info
>
>
> So what we have here is absolutely no creativity
whatsoever. I find it highly
> distastefull when the works of an author are blatantly
copied and no credit
> (or money) is given to the one who made it happen. I
certainly hope that Glens
> laywers find this myth crap and sue the pants off them.
Please tell me that what we have here isn't typical of this
listserv...
because if it is, I'm unsubscribing right now.
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Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2002 00:22:33 -0400
From: Richard Chilton <rchilton@auracom.com>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Monthly Mailing List Info
Joe Murphy wrote:
>
> David Bricker wrote:
>
> > 'lo gents.
> >
> > ........book series' obvious influence on the Bungie creators of Myth: The
> > Fallen
> > Lords and Myth:.........
> > http://myth.bungie.org/legends/relics/blackcompany.html
> >
> > David Bricker
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> So what we have here is absolutely no creativity whatsoever. I find it highly
> distastefull when the works of an author are blatantly copied and no credit
> (or money) is given to the one who made it happen. I certainly hope that Glens
> laywers find this myth crap and sue the pants off them.
>
Alas, the idea of the Dark Lord (or Lady) rising with his minions
predates Cook. For example, when asked for a quick summary of the first
book I often say "Think of a merc company working for the bad guys in
LotR" and people know what I'm talking about.
The game doesn't use the same names as the books. There are 6 or 7
Fallen Lords, not the Ten who were Taken - I could keep going but let's
just say the two are different enough that you can't legally say one is
linked to the other. Inspired by perhaps, but not a direct copy.
On the plus side, I've heard some people have picked up the Black
Company books because they heard there was a link to the game - which
means that Cook made some money indirectly.
Richard
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Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2002 00:35:16 -0400
From: Richard Chilton <rchilton@auracom.com>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Monthly Mailing List Info
David Bricker wrote:
>
> > From: Joe Murphy <bagaele@netzero.com>
> > Reply-To: glencook-fans@lists.xmission.com
> > Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 23:04:16 -0800
> > To: glencook-fans@lists.xmission.com
> > Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Monthly Mailing List Info
> >
> >
> > So what we have here is absolutely no creativity whatsoever. I find it highly
> > distastefull when the works of an author are blatantly copied and no credit
> > (or money) is given to the one who made it happen. I certainly hope that Glens
> > laywers find this myth crap and sue the pants off them.
>
> Please tell me that what we have here isn't typical of this listserv...
> because if it is, I'm unsubscribing right now.
>
It isn't, and the person seemed to be complaining more about the game
than your page devoted to the game and books.
Richard
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Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 23:46:44 -0500
From: David Bricker <qmorris@nasw.org>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Monthly Mailing List Info
Point taken. Anyway, I'm one of the converts. I would never have heard of
Glen Cook if it hadn't been for Myth. Will check out the archives
post-haste.
> From: Richard Chilton <rchilton@auracom.com>
> Organization: Camarilla
> Reply-To: glencook-fans@lists.xmission.com
> Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2002 00:35:16 -0400
> To: glencook-fans@lists.xmission.com
> Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Monthly Mailing List Info
>
> David Bricker wrote:
> It isn't, and the person seemed to be complaining more about the game
> than your page devoted to the game and books.
>
> Richard
>
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Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 20:57:14 -0800
From: Michael Llaneza <maserati@speakeasy.net>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Monthly Mailing List Info
That's what we call a TROLL people. Chase Dave back under his bridge.
Joe Murphy wrote:
>
>David Bricker wrote:
>
>>'lo gents.
>>
>>........book series' obvious influence on the Bungie creators of Myth: The
>>Fallen
>>Lords and Myth:.........
>>http://myth.bungie.org/legends/relics/blackcompany.html
>>
>>David Bricker
>>
>>--------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>
> So what we have here is absolutely no creativity whatsoever. I find it highly
>distastefull when the works of an author are blatantly copied and no credit
>(or money) is given to the one who made it happen. I certainly hope that Glens
>laywers find this myth crap and sue the pants off them.
>
>
>
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Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2002 00:02:04 -0500
From: David Bricker <qmorris@nasw.org>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Monthly Mailing List Info
Huh? I'm a troll? Why is that, exactly? Because I paid homage to two things
I like very much -- The Black Company series and a game inspired by it?
Thank you Mr. Llaneza for your warm welcome.
> From: Michael Llaneza <maserati@speakeasy.net>
> Reply-To: glencook-fans@lists.xmission.com
> Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 20:57:14 -0800
> To: glencook-fans@lists.xmission.com
> Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Monthly Mailing List Info
>
> That's what we call a TROLL people. Chase Dave back under his bridge.
>
> Joe Murphy wrote:
>
>>
>> David Bricker wrote:
>>
>>> 'lo gents.
>>>
>>> ........book series' obvious influence on the Bungie creators of Myth: The
>>> Fallen
>>> Lords and Myth:.........
>>> http://myth.bungie.org/legends/relics/blackcompany.html
>>>
>>> David Bricker
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>
>> So what we have here is absolutely no creativity whatsoever. I find it highly
>> distastefull when the works of an author are blatantly copied and no credit
>> (or money) is given to the one who made it happen. I certainly hope that
>> Glens
>> laywers find this myth crap and sue the pants off them.
>>
>>
>>
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>> visit <http://www.xmission.com/~shpshftr/GC/GC-Mail.html>.
>>
>>
>
>
>
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Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2002 01:31:47 -0400
From: Richard Chilton <rchilton@auracom.com>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Monthly Mailing List Info
David Bricker wrote:
>
> Huh? I'm a troll? Why is that, exactly? Because I paid homage to two things
> I like very much -- The Black Company series and a game inspired by it?
>
> Thank you Mr. Llaneza for your warm welcome.
>
Um, I think he was referring to the hostile reply to your message (which
he quoted) rather than your message.
This is usually deadish - except when a new book comes out or one of the
reoccurring subjects get raised. These subjects (in no particular
order) are:
Who would you cast if a movie was being made about book X?
How can we get copies of Glen Cook's backlist?
What is Cook working on now?
Debates about who would win a fight between X and Y.
What other books are good?
What was character X's motivation for doing Y? (One of the common ones
of these - why didn't Lady use the True Names she knew in the Books of
the South / Glittering Stone novels.)
As far as I can remember there's been only one really hostile poster
(i.e. attacking other people as opposed to disagreeing with their
theories of the books) on the list - and he was quickly removed. Things
seem to have gotten weird tonight (maybe because of the date?) but let
me be one of the first to welcome to this list with open arms.
Richard
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Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 16:10:58 +0100 (BST)
From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Fraser=20Ronald?= <stelm7@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Monthly Mailing List Info
I think Mr. Llaneza got confused over who wrote what.
In any case, I've been a lurker here for a good couple
of years, and everything is usually pretty quiet, with
good-natured, polite discussions. I can only remember
one instance of a really impolite exchange, but that
got cooled off when others jumped in and pulled the
two apart.
I like this list, even though it is relatively quiet
save when a new book comes out. Don't worry about this
confusion/miscommunication/what have you. It's not
commonplace on this list.
Hope you stick around.
Fraser Ronald
"Sword's Edge"
(http://www.atfantasy.com/fiction/swords_edge/)
The AtFantasy Fiction Archive
(http://www.atfantasy.com/fiction/)
- --- David Bricker <qmorris@nasw.org> wrote: >
> Huh? I'm a troll? Why is that, exactly? Because I
> paid homage to two things
> I like very much -- The Black Company series and a
> game inspired by it?
>
> Thank you Mr. Llaneza for your warm welcome.
>
>
>
> > From: Michael Llaneza <maserati@speakeasy.net>
> > Reply-To: glencook-fans@lists.xmission.com
> > Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 20:57:14 -0800
> > To: glencook-fans@lists.xmission.com
> > Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Monthly Mailing List
> Info
> >
> > That's what we call a TROLL people. Chase Dave
> back under his bridge.
> >
> > Joe Murphy wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> David Bricker wrote:
> >>
> >>> 'lo gents.
> >>>
> >>> ........book series' obvious influence on the
> Bungie creators of Myth: The
> >>> Fallen
> >>> Lords and Myth:.........
> >>>
>
http://myth.bungie.org/legends/relics/blackcompany.html
> >>>
> >>> David Bricker
> >>>
> >>>
>
- --------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>
> >>
> >> So what we have here is absolutely no creativity
> whatsoever. I find it highly
> >> distastefull when the works of an author are
> blatantly copied and no credit
> >> (or money) is given to the one who made it
> happen. I certainly hope that
> >> Glens
> >> laywers find this myth crap and sue the pants off
> them.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
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