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Subject: glencook-fans-digest V1 #87
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glencook-fans-digest Monday, February 26 2001 Volume 01 : Number 087
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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 15:19:39 -0600
From: Steve Harris <harrissg@SLU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Odp: (glencook-fans) Black Company Marching Song???
David,
Your points are well-taken on the uses of close-order drill in battle
formations.
What I had observed was that there are practically no descriptions of
such in the BC canon. Most of the well-described fights are urban or
are small skirmishes. The largest battle described--the battle at
Charm--has the BC pretty much just staying put on the ramparts of the
Lady's citadel (or retreating up it). The only example that comes to
mind of a described battle where close-order drill on the part of the BC
might have had a part, is the disastrous affair at Dejagore--and even
then I don't recall the BC itself being described as using such tactics.
(Was there a massed battle in the Shadowlands? I don't clearly recall;
if there was, it wasn't described in a lot of detail.)
The BC having developed a reputation for success over a period of
centuries argues for their having available to them the tactics
necessary to succeed in a variety of contexts, including massed infantry
battles facing various types of opponents. But we just don't see the
sort of tactics that lead to the development of marching as a company
tradition.
Maybe they started to rely too much on Tom-Tom, One-Eye, Silent, and
Goblin, in the years leading up to Croaker? Perhaps they once were
masters of infantry tactics of the standard sort, but once through
Gle-Xle (or whatever it was), picking up Tom-Tom and One-Eye, they got
to liking the edge of socery. And they eventually acquired Goblin and
Silent--and they got the knack of using all manner of subterfuges to
avoid having to engage in massed infantry attacks (except where they had
an overwhelming advantage to start with). Remember, they weren't in
very good shape in Opal: They were actually losing, and things would
have become very sticky without the fortuitous out afforded them by Soulcatcher.
Just some possibilities to consider.
Steve
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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 19:43:21 -0700
From: "Amy Weathers" <raistlin@zianet.com>
Subject: Re: Odp: (glencook-fans) Black Company Marching Song???
> I walked into a used book store that was going out of buisiness in
>Cambridge Ma. (I live on the North Shore of Boston.) I picked up 1 copy of,
>"A Shadow of All Night Falling," 2 copies of , "October's Baby," each one
>has a slightly different cover from each other.
Oh sure, I look for October's Baby for like ten years and you find two
copies at one time. Life is cruel. Now that I have a copy, I have not
had time to read it.
As to the Black Company Music, I took a vote of the three other people
currently sitting in my house and they all suggested Metallica's _For home
the Bell Tolls_ or _Razorback_. Either of which you could probally find on
Nabster, much to their dismay. I am not sure if I agree with either of
those two suggestions but I agreed to post my poll findings to the list. I
guess I would be more inclined to pick something like, Bad Company's _Bad
Company_ but I would have to think about it more.
Amy
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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 00:18:16 -0400
From: Richard Chilton <rchilton@auracom.com>
Subject: Re: Odp: (glencook-fans) Black Company Marching Song???
Amy Weathers wrote:
>
> As to the Black Company Music, I took a vote of the three other people
> currently sitting in my house and they all suggested Metallica's _For home
> the Bell Tolls_ or _Razorback_.
If we are looking at Metallica, one from their first big album comes to
mind - Disposable Heroes. Less for the way the Black Company saw itself
then the way their employers treated them. The first verse and the two
verse chours sums up how much many of their employers cared about.
Bodies fill the fields I see, hungry heroes end
No one to play soldier now, no one to pretend
Running blind through killing fields, bred to kill them all
Victim of what sex should be
A servant `til I fall
Soldier boy, made of clay
Now an empty shell
Twenty one, only son
But he served us well
Bred to kill, not to care
Just do as we say
Finished here, Greeting Death
He's yours to take away
Back to the front
You will do what I say, when I say
Back to the front
You will die when I say, you must die
Back to the front
You coward
You servant
You blindman
<snipping some>
I was born for dying
<snipping some more>
Richard Chilton
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Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 18:59:10 -0700
From: "Don" <dfgarcia@stic.net>
Subject: (glencook-fans) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 19:42:23 -0600
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are the covers for Red Iron Nights and Cold Copper tears really switched =
in the Russian Publications. My ignorance of the Russian language =
prevent me from figuring this out on my own. Is anybody else really =
annoyed by Garrett always dressed in a suit and trench coat. I know he's =
a finder of secrets, but I can't stand the way the covers depict him. =
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