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From: owner-glencook-fans-digest@lists.xmission.com (glencook-fans-digest)
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Subject: glencook-fans-digest V1 #52
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glencook-fans-digest Monday, November 6 2000 Volume 01 : Number 052
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Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 11:52:05 -0800
From: "Tim McDowell" <mcdowelt@izzyspizza.com>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) comparison, Cook & Martin & some Tolkien
- ----- Original Message -----
From: Igor Filippov <igor@osc.edu>
To: <glencook-fans@lists.xmission.com>
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2000 11:00 PM
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) comparison, Cook & Martin
> Tim,
>
> For some reason I'm sure I remember that Gandalf said to Frodo once
> "Even Sauron wasn't born a villain", or something like that.
> I'll try to look up the exact quote...
>
> Igor
Please let me know. With the new 'Lord of the Rings' movie getting ready
to be released (i think some time in Dec.), I'm about to start re-re-re(etc)
reading 'The Hobbit' And the 'Lord of the Rings' trilogy again.
Just as soon as I finish my brand new copy of 'Soliders Live'.
Have a good day eveyone. I'll have my own observations about 'Soliders
Live' soon.
Tim
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Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2000 16:08:12 -0500
From: Jay DeSimone <jdesimon1@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) comparison, Cook & Martin
Igor Filippov wrote:
> I wonder if Mr. Cook has any kind of Navy experience, his description
> of life on a space "u-boat" sounds amazingly realistic !
I believe he was in the Navy, and that was when he started writing. He has become
more prolific after retiring, however.
Jay
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Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 15:54:57 -0600
From: "David George" <dsgeorge@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Wizards in the Black Company saga
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I'd say Lady and the reasons come late in her career. Sure, she's first =
tier (second perhaps only to Dominator) through the first series, but =
other than being an executive (consider the additional takings as =
"recruitment and hiring) she doesn't often toss off any big stuff.
Why she's the most effective is because she's the most adaptive and she =
finds ways to extend capability to multiple points of deployment. The =
first indication of her ability is the flying machines she deploys =
against Darling in the Plain. I consider that a piece of tactical =
genius comparable to the fighter tactics evolved by Claire Chenault in =
the Flying Tigers--adapting your attack to minimize your weakness and =
take advantage of those of your opponents (in the Flying Tigers, use the =
weight and strength of your airplane to dive away from faster, lighter =
foes). Darling was not prepared for carpets that could brave the null =
and she wasn't prepared for bombs that didn't need magic. Boom goes the =
windwhale.
Reinforcement of my opinion comes after her naming in the south. =
Consider the tube technology and the fireballs. These are basically her =
stuff, IIRC. The beauty of them is that any grunt can haul them around =
and deploy them. One wizard can toss one fireball, maybe rip off a =
string of them, maybe those fireballs are pretty big. One well-armed =
platoon can rip any wizard to shreds and there are times when they do =
so. This kind of advantage is exactly why the US military opens any =
conflict with an all-out attack on the enemy's anti-aircraft =
capabilities--one of the lessons learned in Vietnam: any fool, no matter =
his education, equipped with an advanced missile system can put your =
expensive aircraft into the rice paddies. And he can do it on the =
cheap.
DG
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Marcin Welnicki=20
To: glencook-fans@xmission.com=20
Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2000 9:35 AM
Subject: (glencook-fans) Wizards in the Black Company saga
I would like to present a contest:
Who was the most ass-kicking wizard in the BC saga?
And saying a name isn't enought- u must say WHY you think that.
Marcin Mocker Welnicki
=20
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>I'd say Lady and the reasons come late in her =
career. =20
Sure, she's first tier (second perhaps only to Dominator) through the =
first=20
series, but other than being an executive (consider the additional =
takings as=20
"recruitment and hiring) she doesn't often toss off any big =
stuff.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Why she's the most effective is because she's the =
most=20
adaptive and she finds ways to extend capability to multiple points of=20
deployment. The first indication of her ability is the flying =
machines she=20
deploys against Darling in the Plain. I consider that a piece of =
tactical=20
genius comparable to the fighter tactics evolved by Claire Chenault =
in the=20
Flying Tigers--adapting your attack to minimize your weakness and take =
advantage=20
of those of your opponents (in the Flying Tigers, use the weight =
and=20
strength of your airplane to dive away from faster, lighter =
foes). =20
Darling was not prepared for carpets that could brave the null and she =
wasn't=20
prepared for bombs that didn't need magic. Boom goes the=20
windwhale.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Reinforcement of my opinion comes after her =
naming in the=20
south. Consider the tube technology and the fireballs. These =
are=20
basically her stuff, IIRC. The beauty of them is that any grunt =
can haul=20
them around and deploy them. One wizard can toss one fireball, =
maybe rip=20
off a string of them, maybe those fireballs are pretty big. =
</FONT><FONT=20
size=3D2>One well-armed platoon can rip any wizard to shreds and there =
are times=20
when they do so. This kind of advantage is exactly why the US =
military=20
opens any conflict with an all-out attack on the enemy's anti-aircraft=20
capabilities--one of the lessons learned in Vietnam: any fool, no matter =
his=20
education, equipped with an advanced missile system can put your =
expensive=20
aircraft into the rice paddies. And he can do it on the=20
cheap.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>DG</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A href=3D"mailto:szyderca@poczta.onet.pl" =
title=3Dszyderca@poczta.onet.pl>Marcin=20
Welnicki</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
href=3D"mailto:glencook-fans@xmission.com"=20
title=3Dglencook-fans@xmission.com>glencook-fans@xmission.com</A> =
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, November 05, 2000 =
9:35=20
AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> (glencook-fans) =
Wizards in the=20
Black Company saga</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2> I would like to =
present a=20
contest:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" =
size=3D2> Who was=20
the most ass-kicking wizard in the BC saga?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2> And saying a =
name isn't=20
enought- u must say WHY you think that.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2> =
Marcin Mocker=20
Welnicki</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE"=20
=
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Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 19:22:23 -0800 (PST)
From: Tyler Fain <hark_destiny@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) comparison, Cook & Martin & some Tolkien
I don't think the Lord of the Rings film is being
released until December 2001. I did see a trailer for
the new Dungeons & Dragons movie. Looks rather silly,
but I'll probably end up going anyway.
- --
> Please let me know. With the new 'Lord of the
> Rings' movie getting ready
> to be released (i think some time in Dec.), I'm
> about to start re-re-re(etc)
> reading 'The Hobbit' And the 'Lord of the Rings'
> trilogy again.
>
> Just as soon as I finish my brand new copy of
> 'Soliders Live'.
>
> Have a good day eveyone. I'll have my own
> observations about 'Soliders
> Live' soon.
>
> Tim
>
>
>
>
>
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Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 14:30:01 +0100
From: "Marcin Welnicki" <szyderca@poczta.onet.pl>
Subject: Odp: (glencook-fans) Wizards in the Black Company saga
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----- Original Message -----=20
From: David George=20
To: glencook-fans@lists.xmission.com=20
Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2000 10:54 PM
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Wizards in the Black Company saga
I'd say Lady and the reasons come late in her career. Sure, she's =
first tier (second perhaps only to Dominator) through the first series, =
but other than being an executive (consider the additional takings as =
"recruitment and hiring) she doesn't often toss off any big stuff.
=20
Why she's the most effective is because she's the most adaptive and =
she finds ways to extend capability to multiple points of deployment. =
The first indication of her ability is the flying machines she deploys =
against Darling in the Plain. I consider that a piece of tactical =
genius comparable to the fighter tactics evolved by Claire Chenault in =
the Flying Tigers--adapting your attack to minimize your weakness and =
take advantage of those of your opponents (in the Flying Tigers, use the =
weight and strength of your airplane to dive away from faster, lighter =
foes). Darling was not prepared for carpets that could brave the null =
and she wasn't prepared for bombs that didn't need magic. Boom goes the =
windwhale.
=20
Reinforcement of my opinion comes after her naming in the south. =
Consider the tube technology and the fireballs. These are basically her =
stuff, IIRC. The beauty of them is that any grunt can haul them around =
and deploy them. One wizard can toss one fireball, maybe rip off a =
string of them, maybe those fireballs are pretty big. One well-armed =
platoon can rip any wizard to shreds and there are times when they do =
so. This kind of advantage is exactly why the US military opens any =
conflict with an all-out attack on the enemy's anti-aircraft =
capabilities--one of the lessons learned in Vietnam: any fool, no matter =
his education, equipped with an advanced missile system can put your =
expensive aircraft into the rice paddies. And he can do it on the =
cheap.
DG
=20
Hehe- yuo forgot what happened in Mogaba's room in "Soldiers live"?
But I must admit she is one of the Greatest.
Mocker=20
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Marcin Welnicki=20
To: glencook-fans@xmission.com=20
Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2000 9:35 AM
Subject: (glencook-fans) Wizards in the Black Company saga
I would like to present a contest:
Who was the most ass-kicking wizard in the BC saga?
And saying a name isn't enought- u must say WHY you think that.
Marcin Mocker Welnicki
=20
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<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial ce; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A href=3D"mailto:dsgeorge@mindspring.com" =
title=3Ddsgeorge@mindspring.com>David=20
George</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial ce"><B>To:</B> <A=20
href=3D"mailto:glencook-fans@lists.xmission.com"=20
=
title=3Dglencook-fans@lists.xmission.com>glencook-fans@lists.xmission.com=
</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial ce"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, November 05, =
2000 10:54=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial ce"><B>Subject:</B> Re: (glencook-fans) =
Wizards=20
in the Black Company saga</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>I'd say Lady and the reasons come late in her =
career. =20
Sure, she's first tier (second perhaps only to Dominator) through the =
first=20
series, but other than being an executive (consider the additional =
takings as=20
"recruitment and hiring) she doesn't often toss off any big=20
stuff.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Why she's the most effective is because she's the =
most=20
adaptive and she finds ways to extend capability to multiple points of =
deployment. The first indication of her ability is the flying =
machines=20
she deploys against Darling in the Plain. I consider that a =
piece of=20
tactical genius comparable to the fighter tactics evolved by=20
Claire Chenault in the Flying Tigers--adapting your attack to =
minimize=20
your weakness and take advantage of those of your opponents (in =
the=20
Flying Tigers, use the weight and strength of your airplane to =
dive away=20
from faster, lighter foes). Darling was not prepared for carpets =
that=20
could brave the null and she wasn't prepared for bombs that didn't =
need=20
magic. Boom goes the windwhale.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Reinforcement of my opinion comes after her =
naming in=20
the south. Consider the tube technology and the fireballs. =
These=20
are basically her stuff, IIRC. The beauty of them is that any =
grunt can=20
haul them around and deploy them. One wizard can toss one =
fireball,=20
maybe rip off a string of them, maybe those fireballs are pretty =
big. =20
</FONT><FONT size=3D2>One well-armed platoon can rip any wizard to =
shreds and=20
there are times when they do so. This kind of advantage is =
exactly why=20
the US military opens any conflict with an all-out attack on the =
enemy's=20
anti-aircraft capabilities--one of the lessons learned in Vietnam: any =
fool,=20
no matter his education, equipped with an advanced missile system can =
put your=20
expensive aircraft into the rice paddies. And he can do it on =
the=20
cheap.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>DG</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2> </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2> Hehe- yuo forgot what =
happened in=20
Mogaba's room in "Soldiers live"?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2> But I must admit she =
is one of=20
the Greatest.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2> Mocker</FONT> </DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px">
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<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A href=3D"mailto:szyderca@poczta.onet.pl"=20
title=3Dszyderca@poczta.onet.pl>Marcin Welnicki</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
href=3D"mailto:glencook-fans@xmission.com"=20
title=3Dglencook-fans@xmission.com>glencook-fans@xmission.com</A> =
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, November 05, =
2000 9:35=20
AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> (glencook-fans) =
Wizards in the=20
Black Company saga</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2> I would like to =
present a=20
contest:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" =
size=3D2> Who=20
was the most ass-kicking wizard in the BC saga?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2> And saying =
a name isn't=20
enought- u must say WHY you think that.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2> =
Marcin=20
Mocker Welnicki</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE"=20
=
size=3D2> </FO=
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Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 08:54:57 -0500
From: "Wright Frazier" <khelek@cioe.com>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Wizards in the Black Company saga
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The Limper. =3D)
Ya just can't keep a good homocidal wizard who had their body carved up, =
mind raped over and over by the dominated & lady, body carved up some =
more, and then just left as ahead. But then he's back to get a wicker =
body, then a clay body, then finally as a big pile of goo after being =
put in a pot and boiled.
He didn't even die at the end. =3D) They had to toss his ass into =
another universe.
Wright Frazier
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Marcin Welnicki=20
To: glencook-fans@xmission.com=20
Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2000 10:35 AM
Subject: (glencook-fans) Wizards in the Black Company saga
I would like to present a contest:
Who was the most ass-kicking wizard in the BC saga?
And saying a name isn't enought- u must say WHY you think that.
Marcin Mocker Welnicki
=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The Limper. =3D)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ya just can't keep a good homocidal =
wizard who had=20
their body carved up, mind raped over and over by the dominated & =
lady, body=20
carved up some more, and then just left as ahead. But then he's =
back to=20
get a wicker body, then a clay body, then finally as a big pile of goo =
after=20
being put in a pot and boiled.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>He didn't even die at the end. =3D) =
They had to toss=20
his ass into another universe.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Wright Frazier</FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
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<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Dszyderca@poczta.onet.pl =
href=3D"mailto:szyderca@poczta.onet.pl">Marcin=20
Welnicki</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dglencook-fans@xmission.com=20
=
href=3D"mailto:glencook-fans@xmission.com">glencook-fans@xmission.com</A>=
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, November 05, 2000 =
10:35=20
AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> (glencook-fans) =
Wizards in the=20
Black Company saga</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2> I would like to =
present a=20
contest:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" =
size=3D2> Who was=20
the most ass-kicking wizard in the BC saga?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2> And saying a =
name isn't=20
enought- u must say WHY you think that.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE" size=3D2> =
Marcin Mocker=20
Welnicki</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial CE"=20
=
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Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 07:31:31 -0800
From: "Tim McDowell" <mcdowelt@izzyspizza.com>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) comparison, Cook & Martin & some Tolkien
- ----- Original Message -----
From: Tyler Fain <hark_destiny@yahoo.com>
To: <glencook-fans@lists.xmission.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2000 7:22 PM
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) comparison, Cook & Martin & some Tolkien
> I don't think the Lord of the Rings film is being
> released until December 2001.
Your right! (again) Just went over to :
www.theonering.net
and looked at their information. There are 3 movies being produced and are
set to be released one a year. Starting during Xmas 2001, then Xmas 2002 and
the last Xmas 2003.
I've waited this long, I guess a few more years won't hurt too much.
Atleast there's something this year. I've heard that in early Dec. there's a
made for TV version of 'DUNE' to be shown on the Sci. Fi. channel. The clips
look pretty good.
Have a good one.
Tim
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Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 17:00:02 -0000
From: "Joseph McGrath" <jomcgrath@mediaone.net>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) comparison, Cook & Martin
Even Morgoth or Melcor depending on (dialect (?)) High elven or
Valinorean...
was not evil from the get go. Tolkien alludes to the envy or fear factor
that precludes any beings fall from essential goodness. If they give in to
this fear and envy, it devoures it's own self so that there is nothing but
blackness left. And that is when they become real, true, evil dudes. This is
only my opinion but i've read Tolkien so much...
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From: Tim McDowell <mcdowelt@izzyspizza.com>
To: <glencook-fans@lists.xmission.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2000 1:24 AM
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) comparison, Cook & Martin
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Igor Filippov <igor@osc.edu>
> To: <glencook-fans@lists.xmission.com>
> Sent: Friday, November 03, 2000 2:40 PM
> Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) comparison, Cook & Martin
>
>
> Frodo and Sam, Pippin and Merry
> > who returned to Hobbiton are not the same people that left it.
> > Moreover, Sauron himself wasn't born evil either - and Tolkien
> > did point that out unambiguously.
>
> I think that you maybe referring to Saruman who started out as 'the
> White' was seduced by Sauron while using the seeing stone. I think the
stone
> was a 'palantir'. Saurman then became 'the many-colored' and eventually
fell
> from power and was killed in the Shire by WormTongue. His spirit was then
> denied access to the "WEST' .
> Sauron, however, was a nasty one from the get-go. He was one of the
> lesser spirits of the Valar. And able to shape shift to a wolf. He was
'the
> Lieutenant' for Morgorth who was the biggest baddest nastiest being that
> ever tried to take over a world.
> Atleast according to J.R.R.T. He detailed his earlier history of
> Middle-Earth in the 'Simarailion'. Every thing you wanted to know , but
> didn't how to ask.
>
> Tim
>
>
>
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Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 14:33:25 -0500 (EST)
From: schew@interzone.com (Steve Chew)
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) comparison, Cook & Martin
>
>> I wonder if Mr. Cook has any kind of Navy experience, his description
>> of life on a space "u-boat" sounds amazingly realistic !
>
>I believe he was in the Navy, and that was when he started writing. He
>has become more prolific after retiring, however.
>
I believe you're right about him being in the Navy, but he didn't
start writing until he was working for General Motors. I saw him speak
at AlbaCon:
Glen was interviewed by David Hartwell at the AlbaCon "extravaganza".
He talked about how he first got started writing. He used to work for
GM in the late '60s. His job at that time was "sitting waiting for a
phone to ring 11 hours per day." Since it didn't ring very often, he
read a ton of books. After a while he had read most of the "good"
sci-fi and was reading the bottom of the barrel. He said to himself,
"I can do better than this." He got out the company typewriter and
stationary and started writing. A couple years later he published
his first book.
Steve
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Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 15:24:53 -0600
From: "Horky, Roger" <rhorky@trinity.edu>
Subject: RE: (glencook-fans) Wizards in the Black Company saga
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In re BC wizards' ass-kicking skills:
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the
Taken, implying she was more puissant than they (look, ma, I just used
"puissant" in a sentence!).
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NOT to
rely on magic. Consider the example given earlier; her battle against
Darling on the Plain of Fear. The carpets and missile weapons she =
devised,
although magically powered, were designed to operate even without =
magic--or,
if you prefer, designed to operate specifically in a non-magic (the =
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the ha hah ha Mad is killed by a crossbow bolt fired by a frightened
peasant. His last words, spoken in sincere amazement, were, "what a =
time to
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non-magical
solution to a problem (indeed, knowing this really helps the
mundanes--consider=20
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the wizards from Khatovar who destroy their shadow gate because they
immediately go to the magical solution rather than develop a =
non-magical
response to the loss of their broomsticks (does anybody else see a
resemblance between their broomsticks and the transports crosses from
Darkwar? or are they just another carpet?).
=20
Also, success is a useful measure of skill--the Limper was bad-ass =
magically
but he kept screwing up. His major talents were perseverance and =
insanity.
He was prone to plan poorly and to react without thinking, and to allow =
his
personal issues to interfere with business.=20
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