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glencook-fans-digest    Wednesday, October 18 2000    Volume 01 : Number 047




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Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 12:16:06 -0600
From: Eric Herrmann <[e-mail]>
Subject: (glencook-fans) SFBC Glittering Stone 1

If I'm not mistaken this is the the artwork for the first SFBC cover:
<http://www.donatoart.com/alexg.html>.

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Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 17:54:10 -0400 (EDT)
From: [e-mail] (Steve Chew)
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) 'new' books from the Science fiction book club

>
>> Was anyone else disappointed with the book cover shown on the
>> sfbc.com site?  I hope that's not the actual cover.  It was very bland
>> with no graphics.
>
>    I did not see their cover illustration on the site, however the covers
>shown in the mailed catalog were slightly eye catching. A battle scene; some
>cavalry, infantry and of course the wounded.
>

    Good.  I'm glad to hear that the actual covers will be better.

                Steve


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Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 16:54:21 -0500
From: Pete Flugstad <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) 'new' books from the Science fiction book club

Note:  The cover I see in the mailing for the "Annals of the Black Company"
(the first 3 books) is the same as was originally on the book way back in
the mid-80's.  It was cool enough for me to buy it as a teenager...  now,
if only I hadn't let my brother borrow it... well, nice chance now to get
another copy.

Pete

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Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 12:49:41 -0600
From: Bob Dalgleish <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Dragon Never Sleeps

I finished it last week - for the third time. My opinion of it has only
changed slightly. It is still a VERY strong science fiction book, but I
think it gets itself lost in the weeds of the clones. The fact that a
character might or might or might not be themselves, but their "OTHER" got
very confusing in some tightly choreographed parts.

The cat-and-mouse routine at the end was wonderful, superbly painted with me
never knowing whom to root for.

> From: Eric Herrmann <[e-mail]>
> Reply-To: [e-mail]
> Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 08:42:59 -0600
> To: Glen Cook Fans <[e-mail]>
> Subject: (glencook-fans) Dragon Never Sleeps
>
> Well, we're starting a day late, but welcome to the October book club.
>
> Who would like to start the discussion of The Dragon Never Sleeps?
>
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Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 19:42:09 -0400
From: "C.L. Yona" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Dragon Never Sleeps

Bob Dalgleish wrote:

> I finished it last week - for the third time. My opinion of it has only
> changed slightly. It is still a VERY strong science fiction book, but I
> think it gets itself lost in the weeds of the clones. The fact that a
> character might or might or might not be themselves, but their "OTHER" got
> very confusing in some tightly choreographed parts.
>
> The cat-and-mouse routine at the end was wonderful, superbly painted with me
> never knowing whom to root for.

 You thoughts echo mine.  So much so, it seems eerie.  The whole
numbers-as-names thing became distracting but I liked the unspoken question of
"which is better, the unknown future or the devil you know?"  The reincarnation
of the troops from memory banks was pretty damn spiffy as well.

 I will admit it was the first Cook book I've ever encountered a little bit of
difficulty getting into at first.  Once it got rolling I was caught up, though.

yer dog


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Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 16:37:45 -0700
From: Dustin A Miller <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Dragon Never Sleeps

C.L Yona wrote:
    >  I will admit it was the first Cook book I've ever encountered a
> little bit of
> difficulty getting into at first.  Once it got rolling I was caught
> up, though.

    Yeah, I've found that most Cook books I've read start out like you
should already know what is going on.  It makes it kind of confusing, but
it doesn't take very long to get a handle on things.  Once that happens,
it quickly becomes apparent that they are the best books ever.
    The "others" were kind of confusing toward the beginning of the story,
but as it progressed, I found myself wondering how I could have ever been
confused.
    I liked Jo Klass a lot.  I could easily picture her as a member of the
Black Company.

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Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 17:02:28 -0700
From: "Tim McDowell" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) SFBC Glittering Stone 1

- ----- Original Message -----
From: Eric Herrmann <[e-mail]>
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Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 11:16 AM
Subject: (glencook-fans) SFBC Glittering Stone 1


> If I'm not mistaken this is the the artwork for the first SFBC cover:
> <http://www.donatoart.com/alexg.html>.
>
> --
> Eric Herrmann
> <[e-mail]>

    Yes, Eric, that is the artwork that was in the SFBC catalog. Glad you
could find where it came from. It is an impressive piece of art.
    Have a good day.
    Tim



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Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 20:38:55 -0500
From: "Ron Spence" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Dragon Never Sleeps

> I finished it last week - for the third time. My opinion of it has only
> changed slightly. It is still a VERY strong science fiction book, but I
> think it gets itself lost in the weeds of the clones. The fact that a
> character might or might or might not be themselves, but their "OTHER" got
> very confusing in some tightly choreographed parts.

I just finished it (for the first time) this week.  I have to agree
somewhat.  I also thought that there were a bit too many characters
introduced initially.  I had trouble keeping everyone straight, especially
between readings.

> The cat-and-mouse routine at the end was wonderful, superbly painted with
me
> never knowing whom to root for.

I really found this interesting in that I really enjoyed the story, wanted
to know what would happen next, and wasn't really pulling for one side or
the other (although I was probably leaning towards the Guardships...).  I
think this is the one thing Cook does in a lot of his stories - he shows the
world from both sides, and shows both the redeeming and unredeeming values
of each sides.

Ron


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Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 19:29:48 -0600
From: Eric Herrmann <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) SFBC Glittering Stone 1

on 10/17/00 6:02 PM, Tim McDowell at [e-mail] wrote:
> Yes, Eric, that is the artwork that was in the SFBC catalog. Glad you
> could find where it came from. It is an impressive piece of art.

Yeah, but Croaker as Alexander the Great?
I guess it's better than Elric.

What is the picture of Glittering Stone II?

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Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 19:57:56 -0600
From: Eric Herrmann <[e-mail]>
Subject: (glencook-fans) New Glen Cook Bibliography

Sure the bibliography at the Glen Cook fan page is incredible.
It has all the books; all the stories; all the editions.
Complete with cover scans, blurbs, and other miscellaneous info.
<http://www.xmission.com/~shpshftr/GC/Books/GC-Biblio.html>

Have you wanted to print it out?
Take it to a bookstore? Share it with a friend?

Well, so have I. And now you and I can.

As a mailing list exclusive...
<http://www.xmission.com/~shpshftr/GC/GCBiblio.txt>

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Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 22:19:34 -0400 (EDT)
From: [e-mail] (Steve Chew)
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) New Glen Cook Bibliography

>
>Sure the bibliography at the Glen Cook fan page is incredible.
>It has all the books; all the stories; all the editions.
>Complete with cover scans, blurbs, and other miscellaneous info.
><http://www.xmission.com/~shpshftr/GC/Books/GC-Biblio.html>
>
>Have you wanted to print it out?
>Take it to a bookstore? Share it with a friend?
>
>Well, so have I. And now you and I can.
>
>As a mailing list exclusive...
><http://www.xmission.com/~shpshftr/GC/GCBiblio.txt>
>

    Very cool!  Thanks for putting that in one place.

                Steve


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Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 22:29:48 -0400 (EDT)
From: [e-mail] (Steve Chew)
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Dragon Never Sleeps

    Dragon Never Sleeps spoilers...

>
>    Yeah, I've found that most Cook books I've read start out like you
>should already know what is going on.  It makes it kind of confusing, but
>it doesn't take very long to get a handle on things.  Once that happens,
>it quickly becomes apparent that they are the best books ever.
>
    I think that's a good way of looking at it.  Cook almost always
requires his readers to pay close attention, especially at first as the
characters live their lives in the way they always did even before the
reader came along.  Sometimes the background becomes clear through
the characters actions or dialogue but it usually in a way that is
moving the story forward rather the giving expostion.  And sometimes
the background remains a mystery.
    It is often somewhat confusing but I think there is power in
that style as well.  You end up knowing the characters "as they are"
rather than as instruments that tell a story.  Also, it gives a lot
of satisfaction as you figure out what's going on.  I've come to enjoy
that style very much.
    Dragon Never Sleeps is one of my favorites, but it does throw
you to the wolves at first.  You have to accept that you're not going
to remember every character after the first time you meet them.  But
by the end you've come to know most of them very well and you're
totally immersed in the story.

                Steve


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Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 21:26:45 -0600
From: "whitestorm" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (glencook-fans) Black Company fan art?

Has anyone ever found any Black Company fan art on the internet? The only
one I've ever managed to find is one of Lady, and it's several years old...
I have some myself that I'm thinking about putting up when I have the time,
but it would be nice to see if anyone else has any, too....

~WS
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     -- Dan Quayle



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Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 07:17:18 -0700
From: "Tim McDowell" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) SFBC Glittering Stone 1

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From: Eric Herrmann <[e-mail]>
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Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 6:29 PM
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) SFBC Glittering Stone 1


> on 10/17/00 6:02 PM, Tim McDowell at [e-mail] wrote:
> > Yes, Eric, that is the artwork that was in the SFBC catalog. Glad you
> > could find where it came from. It is an impressive piece of art.
>
> Yeah, but Croaker as Alexander the Great?
> I guess it's better than Elric.
>
> What is the picture of Glittering Stone II?
>
> --
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> <[e-mail]>

    Maybe that's not Croaker. What if it's Blade? Or one of the other boys?

    As for the cover art of G.S. II, I'll have to double check the SFBC
catalog when I get back to the apartment tonight. However, I *think* that
it's the same as the G.S.I  book.

    Tim



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Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 12:07:27 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tyler Fain <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) SFBC Glittering Stone 1

>     Maybe that's not Croaker. What if it's Blade? Or
> one of the other boys?
>

Blade was black. The long blonde hair reminds me of
Willow Swan, but he was definitely no Alexander the
Great. I'm not sure why this SFBC uses these types of
paintings for Black Company covers? Must be the
cheapest way to do it.

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