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From: owner-glencook-fans-digest@lists.xmission.com (glencook-fans-digest)
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Subject: glencook-fans-digest V1 #29
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glencook-fans-digest Sunday, September 10 2000 Volume 01 : Number 029
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Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 22:30:31 -0400
From: "Michele" <mr1@rcosta.com>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) OT: Demographics
I saw Star Wars in the theatre - so I guess I'm in your
demographic. I'm employed full-time (and hating every minute of
it), from the Northeast. I've been reading Cook since the mid 80's
when I was attending college in Bar Harbor, ME
On 9 Sep 00, at 1:10, CookReader@aol.com wrote:
> Anyway, just wondering how many others are in my demographic.
>
> christopher....
>
> p.s. if your weren't old enough to see Star Wars in the theater the
> first time you're not in the demographic.
>
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Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2000 20:44:08 -0600
From: Eric Herrmann <shpshftr@xmission.com>
Subject: (glencook-fans) Milestone
[Please reply privately.]
It may not seem like much in comparison to other sites, but today the Glen
Cook fan page passed 40,000 hits.
Now to change the subject slightly...
This year I made it a priority to expand the bibliography beyond just the
American novels. Now there are some 138 bibliographic entries for 40 novels,
2 omnibuses, and 22 short stories published in 12 countries. There are some
150 thumbnail images with 137 full images of the book and magazine covers.
(Thank you to all the contributors!
<http://www.xmission.com/~shpshftr/GC/GC-Credit2.html>)
And, amazingly, the work still isn't done yet. So I'm making an appeal to
the list for some help with the few remaining difficult ones.
Below is a short list of known editions that I am looking for information
and cover scans of. Perhaps some of you own copies of these or have
connections that do.
USA
"The Waiting Sea", Archon 7 Program Book, 1983
"In The Wind", Tomorrow Today (Hardcover), 1975
"First Contact", Tsunami vol 1 no 1, 1972
Brazil
"The Heirs of Babylon", 1980
Germany
"The Heirs of Babylon"
Norway
"The Devil's Tooth", Gandalf, 1977
Russia
(I'll be concentrating on Russia later this year. If you can help
with Russia let me know.)
UK
"The Black Company", ROC, 1992
"Shadowline"
"Starfishers"
"Star's End"
There may still be editions that aren't known to me both in the US and
abroad. (Those that have short story anthologies might browse their TOC in
their spare time.)
I'm also accepting cover scans of advanced, uncorrected proofs and reissue
printings.
If you can help out in providing cover scans or bibliographic information
please let me know.
Again, please respond privately.
Thanks,
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Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 22:57:34 -0000
From: "Joseph McGrath" <jomcgrath@mediaone.net>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Windwhales
Hi Eric, This Joe McGrath, You said you had Michael Sweet ask Glen
something. Is there any way to find out where his next appearance at a
fanasy/sci fi convention will be and when? His books got me through some
rocky times here and there. It would be nice to thank him, and let him know
that his writing is appreciated. Or maybe where i could get the entire dread
empire series, seeing as it is out of print. I've read every,"Garrett File,"
and every, "BC," book, including the, "Books of the south," over and over.
No other auther has got me psyched lately. Not since Tolkien or Casteneda or
maybe Philip Jose Farmer.
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From: Eric Herrmann <shpshftr@xmission.com>
To: <glencook-fans@lists.xmission.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2000 12:32 AM
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Windwhales
> on 8/31/00 11:42 AM, Don at dfgarcia@stic.net wrote:
>
> > I was rereading The Starfisher series again and noticed something I had
> > forgotten. On page 66 Niven ( one of the character's several names in
the book
> > looks over to a "holorama and sees an image of a faraway world.
> > "He glanced back at the holorama. It was portraying one of the furious
> > electrical storms in the Gununga Gap on Camelot. A heard of windwhales
> > quartered toward him through the rain and lightning."
>
> Details about the world Camelot, the windwhales, and the mantas can be
found
> in the short story "In The Wind". Much more so than in "The White Rose".
In
> fact there is a lot of similarity between the events of "In The Wind" and
> the Lady's attack on the Plain.
> <http://www.xmission.com/~shpshftr/GC/Books/InTheWind.html>
>
> I had Michael Sweet ask Glen if there was a connection between Camelot and
> the Plain of Fear. His answer was:
>
> "He didn't understand the question. He said the Plain of Fear is
unrelated
> to anything he has written."
>
> > I just thought it was pretty kewl. Are there any other creatures, items
that
> > cross series like that in Cook's writings?
>
> Not that I'm aware of.
>
> --
> Eric Herrmann
> <shpshftr@xmission.com>
>
>
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Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2000 22:18:18 -0500
From: Tom Duncan <tduncan@satx.rr.com>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) OT: Demographics
Lost the original email that asked for demographics.....
Sex - Male (just begging to put a stright line here but will behave...)
Age - 42
Income - 80k
Location - Texas
Profession - Computer Consulant/Network Admin.
Started reading Cook with The Black Company when it was first published, I
have everything by him with the exception of the Swap Academy and on one
level or another have enjoyed them all.
Michele wrote:
> I saw Star Wars in the theatre - so I guess I'm in your
> demographic. I'm employed full-time (and hating every minute of
> it), from the Northeast. I've been reading Cook since the mid 80's
> when I was attending college in Bar Harbor, ME
>
> On 9 Sep 00, at 1:10, CookReader@aol.com wrote:
>
> > Anyway, just wondering how many others are in my demographic.
> >
> > christopher....
> >
> > p.s. if your weren't old enough to see Star Wars in the theater the
> > first time you're not in the demographic.
> >
> > ======================================================================
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>
> Michele
> mr1@rcosta.com
>
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Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 00:23:15 -0000
From: "Joseph McGrath" <jomcgrath@mediaone.net>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Re: SL SPOILER (well, kinda)
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Hi Michelle, it's Joseph McGrath, I hope you don't mind this e-mail. =
But i'm intrigued. about what you like from Cooks writing....=20
Because the Company is so militaristic and has such large doses of =
psychological warfare going on all the time. This usually turns off many =
potential women readers, initialy.. usually they don't get far enough =
before this happens to get to a more balancing out of the gender thing, =
which obviously happens. And really this has been a big selling point =
for me. Cook is so multi-faceted because he uses his internal dialogue =
as a narrative source. And you get to hear his petty prejudices that =
drive some of his decision making. Also he tries to relate from the =
standpoint of most of his characters to explain their behavior. I think =
it's interesting that he can give so many characters so many different =
motivations. And it seems the older he gets the better he gets at =
developing characters you like. He surprises you that way by alowing the =
reader to empathise with each character. On the other hand his =
demonstrations of manipulation should be part of the draw for women. =
It's just cloaked in such a menacing facade....
Well, I live on the north Shore of Boston jomcgrath@mediaone.net
Thanx for listening.
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Michele=20
To: glencook-fans@lists.xmission.com=20
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2000 2:30 AM
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Re: SL SPOILER (well, kinda)
To reply to two birds with one message...=20
On 8 Sep 00, at 12:38, Joseph McGrath wrote:=20
>Remember when Croaker said to her, "I love you and I'm glad the =
>fates conspired to bring us together."=20
and=20
On 9 Sep 00, at 1:10, CookReader@aol.com wrote:=20
>=20
>Listen Sweetie, ifana I wanna call some chick cupcake, or honey, >or =
muskmelon...=20
> Just kidding....=20
Actually I have nothing against the word "honey". It just seemed out =
of character for Croaker - as far as I can remember he tends to =
depreciate his endearments with ironic comments. Croaker's admission of =
love was more in keeping with what I "know" of him.=20
> p.s. I see you sign your email "M." Ever read the comic "Faust," by=20
> Tim Vigil? Blacker than the Black Co., more twisted than a=20
> contortionist at a frat party.=20
Nope - never read it, I'm just too lazy to type out my name ;-)=20
M=20
Michele
mr1@rcosta.com
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> Hi Michelle, it's =
Joseph=20
McGrath, I hope you don't mind this e-mail. But i'm intrigued. about =
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is so=20
militaristic and has such large doses of psychological warfare going on =
all the=20
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usually=20
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out of=20
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big=20
selling point for me. Cook is so multi-faceted because he uses his =
internal=20
dialogue as a narrative source. And you get to hear his petty prejudices =
that=20
drive some of his decision making. Also he tries to relate from the =
standpoint=20
of most of his characters to explain their behavior. I think it's =
interesting=20
that he can give so many characters so many different motivations. And =
it seems=20
the older he gets the better he gets at developing characters you like. =
He=20
surprises you that way by alowing the reader to empathise with each =
character.=20
On the other hand his demonstrations of manipulation should be part of =
the draw=20
for women. It's just cloaked in such a menacing facade....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> Well, I live on the =
north Shore=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> Thanx for=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, September 10, =
2000 2:30=20
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Re: SL=20
SPOILER (well, kinda)</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>To reply to two birds with one message... <BR><BR>On 8 =
Sep 00,=20
at 12:38, Joseph McGrath wrote: <BR><BR>>Remember when Croaker said =
to her,=20
"I love you and I'm glad the >fates conspired to bring us =
together."=20
<BR><BR><BR>and <BR>On 9 Sep 00, at 1:10, <A=20
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<BR><?color><?param 0000,0000,7F00>>=20
<BR><?color><?param 0000,0000,0000>>Listen Sweetie, ifana I wanna =
call some=20
chick cupcake, or honey, >or muskmelon... <BR>> Just kidding.... =
<BR><BR><BR>Actually I have nothing against the word "honey". It just =
seemed=20
out of character for Croaker - as far as I can remember he tends to =
depreciate=20
his endearments with ironic comments. Croaker's admission of love was =
more in=20
keeping with what I "know" of him.=20
<BR><BR><?color><?param 0000,0000,7F00><BR>> p.s. I see you sign =
your email=20
"M." Ever read the comic "Faust," by <BR>> Tim Vigil? Blacker than =
the=20
Black Co., more twisted than a <BR>> contortionist at a frat party. =
<BR><BR><?color><?param 0000,0000,0000>Nope - never read it, I'm just =
too lazy=20
to type out my name ;-) <BR>M <BR><BR><PRE>Michele
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Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 03:08:47 -0400 (EDT)
From: schew@interzone.com (Steve Chew)
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Windwhales
>
>Hi Eric, This Joe McGrath, You said you had Michael Sweet ask Glen
>something. Is there any way to find out where his next appearance at a
>fanasy/sci fi convention will be and when? His books got me through some
>rocky times here and there. It would be nice to thank him, and let him know
>that his writing is appreciated. Or maybe where i could get the entire dread
>empire series, seeing as it is out of print. I've read every,"Garrett File,"
>and every, "BC," book, including the, "Books of the south," over and over.
>No other auther has got me psyched lately. Not since Tolkien or Casteneda or
>maybe Philip Jose Farmer.
>
Joe,
Glen Cook is going to be the guest of honor at Albacon which is
a convention in Schenectady, NY (near Albany) from October 6th - 8th.
You can visit the web page at: http://www.albacon.org I'm considering
heading up there to check it out (and to visit a friend in the area).
I don't know of any other appearances.
While I'm at it, does anyone out there have any more questions
to ask of Cook? I can take a list of questions up there to ask him.
Just email me your questions. I can also take requests for books,
since I assume he'll be selling his books there too (or maybe not if
he's guest of honor?). If I find the books you want, I'll just ask
that you pay my shipping costs to mail it to you (plus the price of
the book).
Let me know.
Steve
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Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 09:29:28 -0500
From: Pete Flugstad <pete_flugstad@icon-labs.com>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Windwhales
Could you ask Glen what conventions he plans on attending in the future (the
ones he knows at least)? I'd like to get to some of them if they are near
enough.
Thanks,
Pete
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Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 10:33:57 EDT
From: BaronetCorvu@cs.com
Subject: (glencook-fans) Future Cons- was Re: Windwhales
Steve, a few messages back Amy Weathers said she was missing Octobers Baby.
As of last July that was the only DE book Glen had at his dealers table, and
he had multiple copies of it. If you do go to this con could you please
update all of us on what books of his he currently has in stock?
Michael W Sweet
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Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 10:38:39 EDT
From: BaronetCorvu@cs.com
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) OT: Demographics
Single male, 36, gainfully employed, saw Star Wars multiple times at the
theater. Location: Tulsa.
Trivia: How many references to Tulsa are there in all of Glens books?
Michael W Sweet
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Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 23:26:29 -0600
From: "Amy Weathers" <raistlin@zianet.com>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Future Cons- was Re: Windwhales
I would be very happy to get a copy of OctoberÆs Baby. I would be more than
willing to pay shipping/handling/cost of book/whatever.
I have OctoberÆs Baby on several wanted lists at used books stores in my
home area. This has been the case for the last eight or so years.
Amy
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Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 13:15:50 -0500
From: "Richard Gruver" <richgru@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Milestone
I have a Proof Cover of The Swordbearer which was not used for the actual
cover if you are interested. It is a much wider view of the original cover
with the dragon rider in the background and the swordbearer in the
foreground. I would be glad to scan it for you if you want.
Richard Gruver ( richgru@att.net )
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From: Eric Herrmann <shpshftr@xmission.com>
To: Glen Cook Fans <glencook-fans@xmission.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2000 9:44 PM
Subject: (glencook-fans) Milestone
> [Please reply privately.]
>
> It may not seem like much in comparison to other sites, but today the Glen
> Cook fan page passed 40,000 hits.
>
> Now to change the subject slightly...
>
> This year I made it a priority to expand the bibliography beyond just the
> American novels. Now there are some 138 bibliographic entries for 40
novels,
> 2 omnibuses, and 22 short stories published in 12 countries. There are
some
> 150 thumbnail images with 137 full images of the book and magazine covers.
> (Thank you to all the contributors!
> <http://www.xmission.com/~shpshftr/GC/GC-Credit2.html>)
>
> And, amazingly, the work still isn't done yet. So I'm making an appeal to
> the list for some help with the few remaining difficult ones.
>
> Below is a short list of known editions that I am looking for information
> and cover scans of. Perhaps some of you own copies of these or have
> connections that do.
>
> USA
> "The Waiting Sea", Archon 7 Program Book, 1983
> "In The Wind", Tomorrow Today (Hardcover), 1975
> "First Contact", Tsunami vol 1 no 1, 1972
> Brazil
> "The Heirs of Babylon", 1980
> Germany
> "The Heirs of Babylon"
> Norway
> "The Devil's Tooth", Gandalf, 1977
> Russia
> (I'll be concentrating on Russia later this year. If you can help
> with Russia let me know.)
> UK
> "The Black Company", ROC, 1992
> "Shadowline"
> "Starfishers"
> "Star's End"
>
> There may still be editions that aren't known to me both in the US and
> abroad. (Those that have short story anthologies might browse their TOC in
> their spare time.)
>
> I'm also accepting cover scans of advanced, uncorrected proofs and reissue
> printings.
>
> If you can help out in providing cover scans or bibliographic information
> please let me know.
>
> Again, please respond privately.
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
> Eric Herrmann
> <shpshftr@xmission.com>
>
>
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Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 18:24:35 EDT
From: CookReader@aol.com
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) OT: Demographics
Okay, so after reading this thread I have to say I was wrong. Guess I was
just in one of those "feeling old" moods. Sometimes I feel like I'm reading
books I should have given up in my later teens.
It was/is interesting to see people's replies though.
christopher....
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Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2000 21:52:36 -0400
From: "Peter Donald" <pardoz@io.com>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) OT: Demographics
On Sat, 9 Sep 2000 01:10:43 EDT, CookReader@aol.com wrote:
>So I am 30, male, single, make around $25,000, live in the midwest (US for
>those...), been reading Cook for two years, but I get the feeling that I am probably one
>of the oldest people on this list
30? Yer jes' a pup...;-). Meself, I'm 35, married, gainfully
employed, living in the Penguin Republic far in the south of the world,
saw SW in the theatre the day it opened, been reading Cook
for...shit...I can believe it's been almost twenty years...(my first
Cook was _A Shadow of All Night Falling_, first edition).
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Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 17:53:41 -0600
From: "Amy Weathers" <raistlin@zianet.com>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Re: SL SPOILER (well, kinda)
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I am not sure if you had intended for this mail to be a private mail or =
not but I feel compelled to reply even though I am not Michelle. Hope =
neither of you take too much offense.
I didn=92t start with the BC. I started with the Swordbearer. Cook=92s =
ability to weave a spellbinding story and to leave a story unfinished, =
making you want more, gripped me from the start. As soon as I returned =
form my trip, I began my search for more of Cook=92s books. I was =
expecting to find a continuation of the Swordbearer, instead I found The =
Black Company and I have loved them every since. I can think of many =
authors who I have given up on after waiting just one or two years for =
their next book to come out, yet in Cook=92s case, after a six year =
wait, I was right there to pick up Bleak Seasons. Every-time I move I =
clean out old books that are just collecting dust, yet four moves later, =
I still have my incomplete Dread Empire series. What is it about Cook =
that appeals to me so much? I am not sure.
What is it about the BC that appeals to me? I am sure it is many of the =
same things that appeal to all the male readers out there. I like the BC =
because of its gritting realism and attention to detail. In the fantasy =
realm, I think Cook=92s BC is one of the best portrayals of the =
mercenary life style. They were not always the good guys. Some of the =
things they did in Beryl were pretty cruel.
His writing style with Croaker is great too. Croaker is such a cynical =
bastard, I love it. I think I was hooked from the first paragraph on; =
"There were prodigies and portents enough, One-Eye say. We must blame =
ourselves for misinterpreting them. One-eye=92s handicap in no way =
impairs his marvelous hindsight." BC pg. 7. I think that sums up the =
whole series pretty well.
I was taken with the Taken from the start. The mystery and intrigue that =
surrounds them alone was enough to keep me coming back. Cook wrote =
himself such an interesting cast of =91bad guys" to throw at the BC. And =
the fact that they kept popping up even after everyone thought they were =
dead. I read She is the Darkness in one setting just to get to the =
bottom of who Longshadow was, as I just knew he was going to be one of =
the Taken (can=92t be right all the time).
In a nut shell, I like Cook=92s writing because it is well done and =
tells a good tale. Sure his stories don=92t always deal with the nicest =
parts of humanity, but hey the world we all live in isn=92t always the =
nicest place either.
Amy
-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph McGrath <jomcgrath@mediaone.net>
To: glencook-fans@lists.xmission.com =
<glencook-fans@lists.xmission.com>
Cc: mr1@rcosta.com <mr1@rcosta.com>
Date: Saturday, September 09, 2000 10:35 PM
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Re: SL SPOILER (well, kinda)
=20
=20
Hi Michelle, it's Joseph McGrath, I hope you don't mind this =
e-mail. But i'm intrigued. about what you like from Cooks writing....=20
Because the Company is so militaristic and has such large doses =
of psychological warfare going on all the time. This usually turns off =
many potential women readers, initialy.. usually they don't get far =
enough before this happens to get to a more balancing out of the gender =
thing, which obviously happens. And really this has been a big selling =
point for me. Cook is so multi-faceted because he uses his internal =
dialogue as a narrative source. And you get to hear his petty prejudices =
that drive some of his decision making. Also he tries to relate from the =
standpoint of most of his characters to explain their behavior. I think =
it's interesting that he can give so many characters so many different =
motivations. And it seems the older he gets the better he gets at =
developing characters you like. He surprises you that way by alowing the =
reader to empathise with each character. On the other hand his =
demonstrations of manipulation should be part of the draw for women. =
It's just cloaked in such a menacing facade....
Well, I live on the north Shore of Boston =
jomcgrath@mediaone.net
Thanx for listening.
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Michele=20
To: glencook-fans@lists.xmission.com=20
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2000 2:30 AM
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Re: SL SPOILER (well, kinda)
=20
=20
To reply to two birds with one message...=20
=20
On 8 Sep 00, at 12:38, Joseph McGrath wrote:=20
=20
>Remember when Croaker said to her, "I love you and I'm glad the =
>fates conspired to bring us together."=20
=20
=20
and=20
On 9 Sep 00, at 1:10, CookReader@aol.com wrote:=20
>=20
>Listen Sweetie, ifana I wanna call some chick cupcake, or =
honey, >or muskmelon...=20
> Just kidding....=20
=20
=20
Actually I have nothing against the word "honey". It just seemed =
out of character for Croaker - as far as I can remember he tends to =
depreciate his endearments with ironic comments. Croaker's admission of =
love was more in keeping with what I "know" of him.=20
=20
=20
> p.s. I see you sign your email "M." Ever read the comic =
"Faust," by=20
> Tim Vigil? Blacker than the Black Co., more twisted than a=20
> contortionist at a frat party.=20
=20
Nope - never read it, I'm just too lazy to type out my name ;-)=20
M=20
=20
=20
Michele
mr1@rcosta.com
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<P>I am not sure if you had intended for this mail to be a private mail =
or not=20
but I feel compelled to reply even though I am not Michelle. Hope =
neither of you=20
take too much offense.</P>
<P>I didn’t start with the BC. I started with the Swordbearer.=20
Cook’s ability to weave a spellbinding story and to leave a story=20
unfinished, making you want more, gripped me from the start. As soon as =
I=20
returned form my trip, I began my search for more of Cook’s books. =
I was=20
expecting to find a continuation of the Swordbearer, instead I found The =
Black=20
Company and I have loved them every since. I can think of many authors =
who I=20
have given up on after waiting just one or two years for their next book =
to come=20
out, yet in Cook’s case, after a six year wait, I was right there =
to pick=20
up Bleak Seasons. Every-time I move I clean out old books that are just=20
collecting dust, yet four moves later, I still have my incomplete Dread =
Empire=20
series. What is it about Cook that appeals to me so much? I am not =
sure.</P>
<P>What is it about the BC that appeals to me? I am sure it is many of =
the same=20
things that appeal to all the male readers out there. I like the BC =
because of=20
its gritting realism and attention to detail. In the fantasy realm, I =
think=20
Cook’s BC is one of the best portrayals of the mercenary life =
style. They=20
were not always the good guys. Some of the things they did in Beryl were =
pretty=20
cruel.</P>
<P>His writing style with Croaker is great too. Croaker is such a =
cynical=20
bastard, I love it. I think I was hooked from the first paragraph on;=20
"There were prodigies and portents enough, One-Eye say. We must =
blame=20
ourselves for misinterpreting them. One-eye’s handicap in no way =
impairs=20
his marvelous hindsight." BC pg. 7. I think that sums up the whole =
series=20
pretty well.</P>
<P>I was taken with the Taken from the start. The mystery and intrigue =
that=20
surrounds them alone was enough to keep me coming back. Cook wrote =
himself such=20
an interesting cast of ‘bad guys" to throw at the BC. And the =
fact=20
that they kept popping up even after everyone thought they were dead. I =
read She=20
is the Darkness in one setting just to get to the bottom of who =
Longshadow was,=20
as I just knew he was going to be one of the Taken (can’t be right =
all the=20
time).</P>
<P>In a nut shell, I like Cook’s writing because it is well done =
and tells=20
a good tale. Sure his stories don’t always deal with the nicest =
parts of=20
humanity, but hey the world we all live in isn’t always the nicest =
place=20
either.</P>
<P></FONT><FONT size=3D2>Amy</FONT></P></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><B>-----Original =
Message-----</B><BR><B>From:=20
</B>Joseph McGrath <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:jomcgrath@mediaone.net">jomcgrath@mediaone.net</A>><BR>=
<B>To:=20
</B><A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:glencook-fans@lists.xmission.com">glencook-fans@lists.xmis=
sion.com</A>=20
<<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:glencook-fans@lists.xmission.com">glencook-fans@lists.xmis=
sion.com</A>><BR><B>Cc:=20
</B><A href=3D"mailto:mr1@rcosta.com">mr1@rcosta.com</A> <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:mr1@rcosta.com">mr1@rcosta.com</A>><BR><B>Date:=20
</B>Saturday, September 09, 2000 10:35 PM<BR><B>Subject: </B>Re:=20
(glencook-fans) Re: SL SPOILER (well, kinda)<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> Hi Michelle, =
it's Joseph=20
McGrath, I hope you don't mind this e-mail. But i'm intrigued. about =
what=20
you like from Cooks writing.... </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> Because the =
Company is so=20
militaristic and has such large doses of psychological warfare going =
on all=20
the time. This usually turns off many potential women readers, =
initialy..=20
usually they don't get far enough before this happens to get to a =
more=20
balancing out of the gender thing, which obviously happens. And =
really this=20
has been a big selling point for me. Cook is so multi-faceted =
because he=20
uses his internal dialogue as a narrative source. And you get =
to hear=20
his petty prejudices that drive some of his decision making. Also he =
tries=20
to relate from the standpoint of most of his characters to explain =
their=20
behavior. I think it's interesting that he can give so many =
characters so=20
many different motivations. And it seems the older he gets the =
better he=20
gets at developing characters you like. He surprises you that way by =
alowing=20
the reader to empathise with each character. On the other hand his=20
demonstrations of manipulation should be part of the draw for women. =
It's=20
just cloaked in such a menacing facade....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> Well, I live on =
the north=20
Shore of Boston <A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:jomcgrath@mediaone.net">jomcgrath@mediaone.net</A></FONT><=
/DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> Thanx for=20
listening.</FONT></DIV>
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</DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A href=3D"mailto:mr1@rcosta.com" =
title=3Dmr1@rcosta.com>Michele</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
href=3D"mailto:glencook-fans@lists.xmission.com"=20
=
title=3Dglencook-fans@lists.xmission.com>glencook-fans@lists.xmission.com=
</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, September =
10, 2000=20
2:30 AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: =
(glencook-fans) Re: SL=20
SPOILER (well, kinda)</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>To reply to two birds with one message... =
<BR><BR>On 8=20
Sep 00, at 12:38, Joseph McGrath wrote: <BR><BR>>Remember =
when=20
Croaker said to her, "I love you and I'm glad the >fates =
conspired to bring us together." <BR><BR><BR>and <BR>On 9 =
Sep 00,=20
at 1:10, <A =
href=3D"mailto:CookReader@aol.com">CookReader@aol.com</A>=20
wrote: <BR><?color><?param 0000,0000,7F00>> =
<BR><?color><?param 0000,0000,0000>>Listen Sweetie, ifana I wanna=20
call some chick cupcake, or honey, >or muskmelon... <BR>> =
Just=20
kidding.... <BR><BR><BR>Actually I have nothing against the word =
"honey". It just seemed out of character for Croaker - =
as far=20
as I can remember he tends to depreciate his endearments with =
ironic=20
comments. Croaker's admission of love was more in keeping with =
what I=20
"know" of him. <BR><BR><?color><?param =
0000,0000,7F00><BR>>=20
p.s. I see you sign your email "M." Ever read the =
comic=20
"Faust," by <BR>> Tim Vigil? Blacker than the Black =
Co.,=20
more twisted than a <BR>> contortionist at a frat party. =
<BR><BR><?color><?param 0000,0000,0000>Nope - never read it, I'm just=20
too lazy to type out my name ;-) <BR>M <BR><BR><PRE>Michele
mr1@rcosta.com
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From: schew@interzone.com (Steve Chew)
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Future Cons- was Re: Windwhales
>
>I would be very happy to get a copy of OctoberÆs Baby. I would be more than
>willing to pay shipping/handling/cost of book/whatever.
>
>I have OctoberÆs Baby on several wanted lists at used books stores in my
>home area. This has been the case for the last eight or so years.
>
OK, I'll check to see if he has it and pick one up if he does.
Steve
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