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Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 01:10:49 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) SL SPOILER

In a message dated 9/7/00 10:40:40 PM, [e-mail] writes:

>Did you notice Soul Catcher referring to Lady as the Dominator's virgin
>bride?  Did she stay virgin into the ground?  If so Croaker may have
>been her first....

I took that as more of wishful thinking. There is ample evidence that Soul
Catcher was the Dominator's lover. Now, if you were doing your sister's
husband, one of the best mental defenses is "Well, she's not satisfying him.
If she only took advantage of what she had...." Blah blah blah, until Catcher
is doing it like a mink on an Iowa highway, while Lady is portrayed as a prig.
Given my chocie I'm going to throw my lot in with Catcher (it would be more
intense, more unpredictable, and just plain funner).

>I kind of doubt it tho.  Shapeshifter was still following her after she
>lost her powers.  My bet is she had her hooks into him deep.

I'm guessing you're under 30. :)

You don't get the hooks in deep by schleping a guy. You do it by making him
think
you will. *Sleep* with him and he'll be gone in the morning. Spend a few
hundred
years buried under the ground pretending like you really would like to if
only you
could get free.... Hooks much deeper.

christopher.....

In a message dated 9/7/00 10:58:57 PM, [e-mail] writes:

>...She shivered in my grasp like a captive mouse.  "What is it?" I
>whispered. "Shh," she said.  And that was the best thing she could have
said.
>But she could not leave it there.  She had to add, "I never...I never
>did this..."

Good catch. But then women always say this. :)

In a message dated 9/8/00 1:21:48 AM, [e-mail] writes:

>        "Shh," she said.  And that was the best thing she
>      could have said.  But she could not leave it there.
>      She had to add, "I never ... I never did this...."
>         Well, shit.  She sure knew how to distract a man,
>      and put a thousand reservations into his mind.
>
>I think we can take it as presumptive that Lady never took it into her
>head to lose control of her body to her emotions, in the presence of
>another person, while she was The Lady.

Because heaven forbid that she actually lie and manipulate to get something
she wants.



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Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 01:10:43 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (glencook-fans) OT: Demographics

So I am 30, male, single, make around $25,000, live in the midwest (US for
those...),
been reading Cook for two years, but I get the feeling that I am probably one
of the
oldest people on this list. While my sex insures that I am with the majority,
I somehow
get an impression few of those out there are employed fulltime or are as old
as me
(somehow I have no problem reconciling singleness with being a Cook reader).
Anyway,
just wondering how many others are in my demographic.

christopher....

p.s. if your weren't old enough to see Star Wars in the theater the first
time you're
not in the demographic.

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Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 01:10:47 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Re: SL SPOILER (well, kinda)

In a message dated 9/8/00 6:34:26 PM, [e-mail] writes:

>Idle spoiler question--anybody else wonder if Lady was going to use her
>new powers to "reset" the clock?  Is she is vain as her sister?

First stupid question on this list. :)

Just kidding. I didn't guess this way. I just assumed she will. Of course she
will. My concern was more of "What the hell does a 30 foot golem do with
a 6 century old hottie?"

christopher...

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Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2000 08:41:52 -0400
From: "C.L. Yona" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Re: SL SPOILER (well, kinda)

SPOILER SPOILER



















I do think a certain amount of affection became part and parcel of their
relationship as time went on, but as much as Lady may have come to care for
Croaker the leopard was never entirely able to change her spots.  I don't have
SL in front of me right now, but right at the end doesn't one of the girls say
that Lady is incredibly happy because she has her powers back, thanks to
Shiv/Croaker?  That she would "Make love to that ugly demon all day if she
could?"

I think if it had been within her powers, Lady would have been perfectly happy
having her powers and ruling up North forever with Croaker as an amusing
distraction.  But Cook had other plans for her.  And yes, I think that in the
probably never-to-be-written-future Lady will make herself into the
young-looking bit of slinkiness she used to be.  But that's just me.

yer dog

David Ainsworth wrote:

> At 09:53 PM 9/7/2000 -0400, Michele wrote:
>
> >It's not really a spoiler, but I wanted to ask - is it just me or did
> >Lady calling Croaker "honey" strike anyone as odd?  It felt very out
> >of character to me.  It felt out of character when Craoker called
> >Lady "honey" too, but I can almost rationalize that.
>
> Another thing to keep in mind is that Lady has been both without her powers
> for an extended period of time, and is starting to show visible signs of
> aging.  And Croaker is starting to unravel at the seams, physically
> speaking.  I agree that mid-age Croaker calling young/timeless Lady "honey"
> is just plain weird, but aging Croaker calling aging Lady "honey" seemed
> natural to be.  It's a playful kind of way to reaffirm their earlier
> relationship and let her know that her aging hasn't changed anything.
>
> Idle spoiler question--anybody else wonder if Lady was going to use her new
> powers to "reset" the clock?  Is she is vain as her sister?
>
> David




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Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2000 08:45:06 -0400
From: "C.L. Yona" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) OT: Demographics

Own my own business (so I work full-time and a half), 32, male, well-adjusted,
even have a girlfriend and everything (who is currently devouring Soldiers
Live).

[e-mail] wrote:

> So I am 30, male, single, make around $25,000, live in the midwest (US for
> those...),
> been reading Cook for two years, but I get the feeling that I am probably one
> of the
> oldest people on this list. While my sex insures that I am with the majority,
> I somehow
> get an impression few of those out there are employed fulltime or are as old
> as me
> (somehow I have no problem reconciling singleness with being a Cook reader).
> Anyway,
> just wondering how many others are in my demographic.
>
> christopher....
>
> p.s. if your weren't old enough to see Star Wars in the theater the first
> time you're
> not in the demographic.
>
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Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2000 07:38:27 -0500
From: "S. Townsend" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) OT: Demographics

I'm 31, male, single, and it's hard to get more midwest then bloomingon, illinois.
I've been reading cook since 82'.

As for the rest of the details, they're subjective so I won't bother mentioning
them.  But I actually figured that most cook readers fit a similar profile.  Cook
to me seems to bring out the smarter/more mature readers, but that may just be
ego.  It certainly seems the members of this list are certainly quite literate, in
every sense of the word.

"C.L. Yona" wrote:

> Own my own business (so I work full-time and a half), 32, male, well-adjusted,
> even have a girlfriend and everything (who is currently devouring Soldiers
> Live).
>
> [e-mail] wrote:
>
> > So I am 30, male, single, make around $25,000, live in the midwest (US for
> > those...),
> > been reading Cook for two years, but I get the feeling that I am probably one
> > of the
> > oldest people on this list. While my sex insures that I am with the majority,
> > I somehow
> > get an impression few of those out there are employed fulltime or are as old
> > as me
> > (somehow I have no problem reconciling singleness with being a Cook reader).
> > Anyway,
> > just wondering how many others are in my demographic.
> >
> > christopher....
> >
> > p.s. if your weren't old enough to see Star Wars in the theater the first
> > time you're
> > not in the demographic.
> >
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Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2000 10:19:47 -0400
From: Chris Holko <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Re: SL SPOILER (well, kinda)

On Fri, 08 Sep 2000 18:36:25 -0500, you wrote:


>Idle spoiler question--anybody else wonder if Lady was going to use her =
new
>powers to "reset" the clock?  Is she is vain as her sister?


Is she vain?  Perhaps at one time she was vain.  Is her sister vain?
I doubt it,  she's too insane/amoral to care....   let alone the fact
she always wore armor/leather to conceal her looks. =20

As for the Lady using her powers to become young again.  I would
believe she would,  and that it would in turn make Croaker happy.  I
think he realizes that woman he fell in love with is all the things
people both love and hate about her.  Her beauty was a signature,
being one of the original "taken" she was the one most described as
NOT wearing a disguise,  she is the Lonely woman of Charm.

As for continuing the story.  I would go out on a limb and state that
I think the "girls" (read - Croaker's adopted daughters) may have read
the effect wrong.  I am quite sure that the Lady and Croaker are as
much entwined as they were in the physical world.  Perhaps they are in
essence sharing the same life now.  He provides the mechanism to link
up to rescue her,  and she responds by playing again.  (Remember she
was twirling fireballs - that sounds more playful than anything else)

Anyway,  if he did continue it,  I would like to see Croaker and the
Lady to both become spirits of the plain.  IOW- she escapes her fear
of physical death and together they roam the universe.

In the end of the North books,  I would figure Lady knew what the lack
of "her" in the future meant.  Being resigned at that time tells me
that she is a lot less vain than people expect.  Granted she had a
hard time living with it,  but in the end she adapted.


Chris

Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines.=20

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Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2000 10:22:27 -0400
From: Chris Holko <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) OT: Demographics

On Sat, 9 Sep 2000 01:10:43 EDT, you wrote:

>So I am 30, male, single, make around $25,000, live in the midwest (US =
for=20
>those...),
>been reading Cook for two years, but I get the feeling that I am =
probably one=20
>of the
>oldest people on this list. While my sex insures that I am with the =
majority,=20
>I somehow
>get an impression few of those out there are employed fulltime or are as=
 old=20
>as me
>(somehow I have no problem reconciling singleness with being a Cook =
reader).=20
>Anyway,
>just wondering how many others are in my demographic.


I'm 35,  having read Cook since the Black Company in 85.  I have the
first three books in the combined hardcover.... and most of the last
series all in hardback.  (anyone know where I can buy ALL of the books
from Silver Spike and on in HC? - up to 2nd book of GS?)

I am a computer programmer/analyst on the AS/400,  and live in
Georgia.  (btw - I am male - go figure).  I make a good living,  and
have my own home,  a motorcycle, and a miata  - yes I am single - I
have a life,  no wife   ;)


Chris
Chris

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Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 10:50:24 -0400
From: Jeff Wragg <[e-mail]>
Subject: (glencook-fans) Re: Demographics

I'm 48, a PhD physicist (in academia most of the time), semi-retired
skydiver, married and live in Charleston,SC, although if home is where the
heart is, I'm an Idaho boy.  Other physicists to whom I have introduced the
series (one male and one female) have enjoyed it greatly.  The male is
older than I am and the female is much younger.  I think I first read Cook
in about 1993, the first book I read was Silver Spike.

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Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 12:30:27 -0000
From: "Joseph McGrath" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Re: Demographics

I'm 37 and have been reading Cook since about 92 - 93. i saw star wars when
i was 12.....
what do you mean that doesn't put me in the demographic???? I don't think
Cook himself will see fifty again. You're probably right about the fact that
there are not a-lot of females reading the black company but hopefully that
will change.   (Aside to Jeff,.... Great job on the maps! I was wondering
where you would put the, "Grove of Doom." )
- ---- Original Message -----
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To: <[e-mail]>
Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2000 2:50 PM
Subject: (glencook-fans) Re: Demographics


> I'm 48, a PhD physicist (in academia most of the time), semi-retired
> skydiver, married and live in Charleston,SC, although if home is where the
> heart is, I'm an Idaho boy.  Other physicists to whom I have introduced
the
> series (one male and one female) have enjoyed it greatly.  The male is
> older than I am and the female is much younger.  I think I first read Cook
> in about 1993, the first book I read was Silver Spike.
>
> I'm also the author of the maps at --
http://www.cofc.edu/~wraggj/blackco/
>
>
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Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 12:37:44 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) OT: Demographics

In a message dated 9/9/00 12:11:58 AM Central Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< So I am 30, male, single, make around $25,000, live in the midwest (US for
 those...),
 been reading Cook for two years, but I get the feeling that I am probably
one
 of the
 oldest people on this list. >>

Male, married, 40, live in the south, been reading Cook since the White Rose
was published.

Pete

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Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 12:28:28 -0500
From: "Richard Gruver" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (glencook-fans) Demographics

I'm a 53 year old male. I have been married for 30 yrs and have 2 grown
kids. I have been a Registered Nurse  for the last 25 yrs and bring in about
50 grand per year. I have been reading Sci Fi since I was about 12 years old
and Fantasy since I discovered Tolkien while in the service back in the late
60's. I first read Cook somtime in the late 80's. I started with the Black
Company and have read all of the BC and the Garrett series. I have all the
others but have just gotten around to reading the Darkwar trilogy (in the
middle of Ceremony now).For some reason I didn't expect to like it but I've
been pleasantly surprised. I plan on sarting the Dread Empire stories next.
 BTW the Black Company series was not printed in hardback until Bleak
Seasons, with the exception of the Book Club printing of the compilation of
the first trilogy.

- ----- Original Message -----
From: Chris Holko <[e-mail]>
To: <[e-mail]>
Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2000 9:22 AM
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) OT: Demographics


On Sat, 9 Sep 2000 01:10:43 EDT, you wrote:

>So I am 30, male, single, make around $25,000, live in the midwest (US for
>those...),
>been reading Cook for two years, but I get the feeling that I am probably
one
>of the
>oldest people on this list. While my sex insures that I am with the
majority,
>I somehow
>get an impression few of those out there are employed fulltime or are as
old
>as me
>(somehow I have no problem reconciling singleness with being a Cook
reader).
>Anyway,
>just wondering how many others are in my demographic.


I'm 35,  having read Cook since the Black Company in 85.  I have the
first three books in the combined hardcover.... and most of the last
series all in hardback.  (anyone know where I can buy ALL of the books
from Silver Spike and on in HC? - up to 2nd book of GS?)

I am a computer programmer/analyst on the AS/400,  and live in
Georgia.  (btw - I am male - go figure).  I make a good living,  and
have my own home,  a motorcycle, and a miata  - yes I am single - I
have a life,  no wife   ;)


Chris
Chris

Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines.

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Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 06:16:57 -0500
From: "Don" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) OT: Demographics

I am 26 and don't give a damn if I fit into your demographic. Single, until
about March. I am a full-time employee and I saw Star Wars in the theater
but don't remember it very well. I live in Texas.
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To: <[e-mail]>
Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2000 12:10 AM
Subject: (glencook-fans) OT: Demographics


> So I am 30, male, single, make around $25,000, live in the midwest (US for
> those...),
> been reading Cook for two years, but I get the feeling that I am probably
one
> of the
> oldest people on this list. While my sex insures that I am with the
majority,
> I somehow
> get an impression few of those out there are employed fulltime or are as
old
> as me
> (somehow I have no problem reconciling singleness with being a Cook
reader).
> Anyway,
> just wondering how many others are in my demographic.
>
> christopher....
>
> p.s. if your weren't old enough to see Star Wars in the theater the first
> time you're
> not in the demographic.
>
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Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2000 13:09:09 -0500
From: Steve Harris <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) OT: Demographics

I'm 49, a math professor.  Been reading Cook since I was introduced to
him by another math professor some 10 years ago.  SF/F is not
unappreciated in some corners of academe :)

Steve

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Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2000 13:29:18 -0500
From: David Ainsworth <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) OT: Demographics

At 01:10 AM 9/9/2000 EDT, [e-mail] wrote:
>Anyway,
>just wondering how many others are in my demographic.

27, studying for a PhD in English Lit, from Maryland but also currently in
the Midwest.

And I did see Star Wars in the theater... though who knows how much of it I
understood.

Started with the Black Company after finding it at the local library back in
86.  Loved it, couldn't locate a sequel, mentally put it on a list of books
to watch out for, and promptly forgot.

Five years later I found the Annals of the Black Company (3-in-one SFBC
edition) in a used bookstore.  Two months later I had every BC book
published at that time.

And with all the reading I do professionally, I still find time to reread BC
at least once a year...

David


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Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 14:44:32 -0500
From: "anthony palermo" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) OT: Demographics

I am a 30, male, gainfully employed as a financial aid rep for a local
college here in the Twin Cities, married to a Math Instructor, home-owner,
and have the pleasure of sharing my abode with an English Bulldog by the
name of Roger BigPants (2 years old).  Glen Cook was introduced to me by the
Owner of Dreamhaven Books in Dinkytown (outside the U of MN East Bank
Campus) 'round 'bout 1990.  In short time I had all the BC and Garrett books
bought and read and have kept up with all of Cook's stuff since (really
enjoyed Tower of Fear).  Recently acquired two books in the Dread Empire
series but am holding off til I have them all.  From the recommendations on
this list, I just checked THE DRAGON NEVER SLEEPS out of the library.  I
have also successfully recommended the BC series to two friends and I am
working on a third (however, he will be difficult, as comic books are STILL
his preferred form of literature...nothing wrong with that but I feel he
should open UP a bit).

Tony
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To: <[e-mail]>; <[e-mail]>
Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2000 1:29 PM
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) OT: Demographics


> At 01:10 AM 9/9/2000 EDT, [e-mail] wrote:
> >Anyway,
> >just wondering how many others are in my demographic.
>
> 27, studying for a PhD in English Lit, from Maryland but also currently in
> the Midwest.
>
> And I did see Star Wars in the theater... though who knows how much of it
I
> understood.
>
> Started with the Black Company after finding it at the local library back
in
> 86.  Loved it, couldn't locate a sequel, mentally put it on a list of
books
> to watch out for, and promptly forgot.
>
> Five years later I found the Annals of the Black Company (3-in-one SFBC
> edition) in a used bookstore.  Two months later I had every BC book
> published at that time.
>
> And with all the reading I do professionally, I still find time to reread
BC
> at least once a year...
>
> David
>
>
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Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 14:17:56 -0700
From: Dustin A Miller <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) OT: Demographics

I'm 18 and currently studying to be a high school history teacher.  Don't
give a damn about age or anything.   I've been reading the Black Company
books for years.  A couple of my female friends love them as well.

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Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2000 16:36:07 -0500
From: Mike Waligorski <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) OT: Demographics

35 male dental hygienist.  Been Reading Cook since "The Black Company" was
released.  Have almost all of his books now.  I've gotten 3 or 4 others
hooked on Cook.



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Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 17:48:40 -0500
From: "PrimalChrome" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (glencook-fans) OT: Demographics

Married male, 28, with two weimaraners and a child on the way.  Live in the
southeastern US with a full time job and a family income of $100+.  I saw
the original Star Wars in the Riverchase Movie theater as a child.

>shrug<



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So I am 30, male, single, make around $25,000, live in the midwest (US for
those...),
been reading Cook for two years, but I get the feeling that I am probably
one
of the
oldest people on this list. While my sex insures that I am with the
majority,
I somehow
get an impression few of those out there are employed fulltime or are as old
as me
(somehow I have no problem reconciling singleness with being a Cook reader).
Anyway,
just wondering how many others are in my demographic.

christopher....

p.s. if your weren't old enough to see Star Wars in the theater the first
time you're
not in the demographic.

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Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 17:00:13 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tyler Fain <[e-mail]>
Subject: (glencook-fans) The Dragon Never Sleeps (spoilers)

I finished this novel a few days ago and was just
wondering why some of you felt it was Cook's best
book? I certainly enjoyed it, but to me the ending was
a bit of a letdown. One of my favorite scenes was the
first big battle between Simon's powerful ship and the
three Guardships. And it seemed like there always
something going around somebody else's back throughout
the novel. There were many interesting characters such
as Jo Klass, Simon Provik, and Kez Maefele as well.
I'm not a big SF fan only read some Bradbury and Dune.
Bought it off abebooks.com for $12.

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Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 12:42:09 -0500
From: "Don" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (glencook-fans) Windwhales

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electrical storms in the Gununga Gap on Camelot. A heard of windwhales =
quartered toward him through the rain and lightning."
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that cross series like that in Cook's writings?=20

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Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2000 18:32:37 -0600
From: Eric Herrmann <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Windwhales

on 8/31/00 11:42 AM, Don at [e-mail] wrote:

> I was rereading The Starfisher series again and noticed something I had
> forgotten. On page 66 Niven ( one of the character's several names in the book
> looks over to a "holorama and sees an image of a faraway world.
> "He glanced back at the holorama. It was portraying one of the furious
> electrical storms in the Gununga Gap on Camelot. A heard of windwhales
> quartered toward him through the rain and lightning."

Details about the world Camelot, the windwhales, and the mantas can be found
in the short story "In The Wind". Much more so than in "The White Rose". In
fact there is a lot of similarity between the events of "In The Wind" and
the Lady's attack on the Plain.
<http://www.xmission.com/~shpshftr/GC/Books/InTheWind.html>

I had Michael Sweet ask Glen if there was a connection between Camelot and
the Plain of Fear. His answer was:

"He didn't understand the question.  He said the Plain of Fear is unrelated
to anything he has written."

> I just thought it was pretty kewl. Are there any other creatures, items that
> cross series like that in Cook's writings?

Not that I'm aware of.

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Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 20:52:37 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) OT: Demographics

38, female, medical biller, have been reading Cook since BC first came out.
Kept trying to get my fiance to try BC, but he didn't until another friend
recommended it to him (/me rolls eyes).

Now, he doesn't like the non-Croaker narrated books and was unable to get far
into "Water Sleeps".   Do any of you think that he'll be able to enjoy
"Soldiers Live" without having read "WS" ?

Donna

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Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 18:08:08 -0700
From: "Tim McDowell" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) OT: Demographics

    Greetings Chris;

        I'm 48, gainfully employed (whatever that means), make under $25K
per year. Born and raise in the Willamette (if you say it right you get a
cigar) Valley in the State of Oregon (soon to be wet *again*). I have piles
of SF/F, military fiction, crafts, etc., ad naseum that have migrated from
my 3 bookshelves. I did see Star Wars all those years ago.

    Can't say I agree with everything you say, but I'll defend your right to
say it.



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Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 16:07:27 -0600
From: "Amy Weathers" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) OT: Demographics

Well I am 26, female and single. I have worked as a probation officer for
the past three years. My household income is over 55K (though I really don't
know what that has to do with anything) and I live in New Mexico.  I know I
saw Return of the Jedi in a drive-in movie theater but I honestly donÆt
remember anything other than the thing you put on your car to better hear
the movie.

The first Glen Cook book I read was The Swordbearer in 1990. I bought in a
grocery store on the way to California.  Since then, I have read the entire
Black Company series (multiple times), the entire Garret Files, as well as
The Tower of Fear.  I have all but one book in the Dread Empire series, but
until I locate OctoberÆs Baby I donÆt want to read that series.  IÆve been
reading fantasy novels since I was 10 or so and continue to enjoy
discovering ônewö authors.  IÆve introduced at least three dozen people
(including people from Russia, Brazil and the Netherlands) to Glen Cook and
many of them still come borrow the books from me when the new ones come out.
Somewhere along the way I have missed placed my copy of The Silver Spike, at
least I wasnÆt too fond of that one.

It is very interesting to see the different demographics of people that
enjoy this author.  As IÆve stated before, there was a time when I thought I
was the only one out there that read Cook and that it was entirely up to me
to clue the rest of the world into him.

Amy




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Date: Saturday, September 09, 2000 6:54 PM
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) OT: Demographics


>38, female, medical biller, have been reading Cook since BC first came out.
>Kept trying to get my fiance to try BC, but he didn't until another friend
>recommended it to him (/me rolls eyes).
>
>Now, he doesn't like the non-Croaker narrated books and was unable to get
far
>into "Water Sleeps".   Do any of you think that he'll be able to enjoy
>"Soldiers Live" without having read "WS" ?
>
>Donna
>
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Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2000 20:48:33 -0500
From: Steve Harris <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) OT: Demographics

Tim,

Ahh, the Willamette :)  I lived half a dozen years in Corvallis in the
80's (didn't know Cook at that time).  There's quite a few SF writers in
the PNW.

Steve

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Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 22:30:31 -0400
From: "Michele" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Re: SL SPOILER (well, kinda)

To reply to two birds with one message...


On 8 Sep 00, at 12:38, Joseph McGrath wrote:


>Remember when Croaker said to her, "I love you and I'm glad the
>fates conspired to bring us together."



and

On 9 Sep 00, at 1:10, [e-mail] wrote:

<color><param>0000,0000,7F00</param>>

<color><param>0000,0000,0000</param>>Listen Sweetie, ifana I wanna call some chick cupcake, or honey,
 >or muskmelon...

> Just kidding....



Actually I have nothing against the word "honey".  It just seemed
out of character for Croaker - as far as I can remember he tends to
depreciate his endearments with ironic comments.  Croaker's
admission of love was more in keeping with what I "know" of him.


<color><param>0000,0000,7F00</param>

> p.s. I see you sign your email "M." Ever read the comic "Faust,"
by

> Tim Vigil? Blacker than the Black Co., more twisted than a

> contortionist at a frat party.


<color><param>0000,0000,0000</param>Nope - never read it, I'm just too lazy to type out my name ;-)

M


<nofill>
Michele
[e-mail]

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