Subject: Re: Reliance on Religion (was RE: (glencook-fans) Hindu Mythology)
Date: 01 Nov 2002 12:27:04 EST
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In reference to all this bickering all I wanted to say is that as someone who
could have complained that Samhain wasn't about Voodoo (me being pagan and
all....}I didn't. We are all adult and that is want makes it fun. The
differences and the struggles that we each have is what makes this list
fun...as it does Mr. Cooks books. I think in the end that is the point...not
who or what this one or that one believes.....
*back to lurking til I get moved into the new house on monday*
Lady Ravven
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In reference to all this bickering all I wanted to say is that as someone who could have complained that Samhain wasn't about Voodoo (me being pagan and all....}I didn't. We are all adult and that is want makes it fun. The differences and the struggles that we each have is what makes this list fun...as it does Mr. Cooks books. I think in the end that is the point...not who or what this one or that one believes.....<BR>
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*back to lurking til I get moved into the new house on monday*<BR>
Subject: Re: Reliance on Religion (was RE: (glencook-fans) Hindu Mythology)
Date: 01 Nov 2002 12:45:31 EST
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In a message dated 11/1/02 1:34:52 AM Eastern Standard Time,
jrraney@attbi.com writes:
>
> I am intolerant because I uttered an objection to having myself and
> billions
> of others categorized as "weak" simply because of our beliefs? It seems
> that you are the intolerant one. Let me guess, you are also a staunch
> democrat.
>
>
Not that it has any bearing, but I'm not.
Funny that again you attack me. You speak of "strength" yet show no inner
strength of your own. The strongest beliefs should need no defending.
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 11/1/02 1:34:52 AM Eastern Standard Time, jrraney@attbi.com writes:<BR>
I am intolerant because I uttered an objection to having myself and billions<BR>
of others categorized as "weak" simply because of our beliefs? It seems<BR>
that you are the intolerant one. Let me guess, you are also a staunch<BR>
democrat.<BR>
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Not that it has any bearing, but I'm not.<BR>
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</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Trebuchet MS" LANG="0">Funny that again you attack me. You speak of "strength" yet show no inner strength of your own. The strongest beliefs should need no defending.<BR>
Subject: Re: Reliance on Religion (was RE: (glencook-fans) Hindu Mythology)
Date: 01 Nov 2002 12:48:10 EST
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why should i take it that way...to me beliefs are mine, for my reasons....i
don't know that i have words to even try to say why...nor do i feel the need
to. but even being Pagan, I see the similarities in many religions. (and even
though for the most part I am spiritual) I at times feel that there is no one
there or just rather well..."grey" for lack of better wording(not enough
coffee)about religion in general....(hence why I am Lady on AOL and
Soulcatcher on ICQ..lol)....
as for a writers beliefs...I know from writing myself, There are time that i
take from my life and beliefs, but more often than not i take from what i see
around me...I learn about it and think damn that might just make and
interesting fubar for the people i write about...so it maybe be a person
experince and belief for him...maybe not...
someone ask next Con.
Lady Ravven
ICQ: Soulcatcher
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">why should i take it that way...to me beliefs are mine, for my reasons....i don't know that i have words to even try to say why...nor do i feel the need to. but even being Pagan, I see the similarities in many religions. (and even though for the most part I am spiritual) I at times feel that there is no one there or just rather well..."grey" for lack of better wording(not enough coffee)about religion in general....(hence why I am Lady on AOL and Soulcatcher on ICQ..lol)....<BR>
as for a writers beliefs...I know from writing myself, There are time that i take from my life and beliefs, but more often than not i take from what i see around me...I learn about it and think damn that might just make and interesting fubar for the people i write about...so it maybe be a person experince and belief for him...maybe not...<BR>
<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">back to the reason for the list....<BR>
<BR>
*spoiler*<BR>
<BR>
anyone heard anything about a new Black Company book? The last one left everything at a point and time where either new adventures could be chronicled, orrrr we get to see from the eyes of Croaker the periods in history that so captivated him.<BR>
<BR>
Imagine new Black Company books about previous incarnations of the company....or even the birth of the Domination...that is what id vote for, a book all about how the Dominator came to power, the 10 who were taken and their early lives, etc etc<BR>
<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 11/1/02 1:30:25 PM Eastern Standard Time, bagaele@netzero.com writes:<BR>
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<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">so it could be a while before the Black Co comes<BR>
back on stage.<BR>
J Murphy<BR>
</BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
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thanks J<BR>
<BR>
kinda like the 6 year wait for so between First Book of the South and the rest 8(<BR>
<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 11/1/02 1:38:23 PM Eastern Standard Time, primalchrome@bellsouth.net writes:<BR>
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<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Similarly, if you walk into a conversation and lead off with,"Well, you're all weak minded sheep, but I'll still favor you with my presence..." you're really not going to be making any headway. </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR>
Man, this statement wraps it all up. I never said anything like that, I never implied anything like that. You are putting words in my mouth and also reading whatever you want to from my statements. <BR>
<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 11/1/02 2:12:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, primalchrome@bellsouth.net writes:<BR>
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<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Since he introduced Case in the The White Rose, I've always been interested<BR>
in seeing a book (or short story) with his perspective on some of the Lady's<BR>
campaigns.... Novels revolving around what were once secondary or<BR>
background characters instead of hashing on the Company or known entities.<BR>
<BR>
Or maybe a throw down on what Old Man Fish (from the Silver Spike) went<BR>
through in his younger days.... Is it just me, or does Old Man Fish remind<BR>
anyone else of an over-the-hill Garrett?<BR>
<BR>
BTW, I hear you on Drake. The Slammers and Black Company dominate the top<BR>
shelf of my bookcase.<BR>
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</BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
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the Silver Spike covered the release of the Lady and the 10, and a book detailing her take over control of the area and the birth of her new Empire would be great as well...maybe even a trilogy were we see the start of the Domination, the fall and then the 3rd book is the release and rebirth of the Lady<BR>
<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 11/1/02 2:37:14 PM Eastern Standard Time, schew@interzone.com writes:<BR>
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<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">On a different note, one of the things that I didn't like that <BR>
well from the Glittering Stone books was how much Cook took advantage of <BR>
Smoke and then Murgen to float around, viewing what's happening all over<BR>
the world. It was a convenient tool for Sleepy and the rest of the BC<BR>
of course, but it was almost *too* convenient in my opinion. I think<BR>
it reduced tension since the BC could almost always anticipate what was<BR>
going to happen next. I prefered it when they had to work out what to<BR>
do without foreknowledge of the number of troops, their locations, etc.<BR>
</BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
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i always felt this was more a replacement of the wizards the company had lost...Tom Tom, Silent etc who had been stated as being the ones who had kept the Company one step ahead of the enemy many times...<BR>
<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">i read Feist a long long long time ago, when it first came out. enjoyed it a lot, but felt the follow up books just didnt do the initial story justice... kinda like Dune, the follow up stopped me reading the whole series<BR>
From: George Hayward <george@nhivanye.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Reliance on Religion (was RE: (glencook-fans) Hindu Mythology)
Date: 03 Nov 2002 12:00:28 +0000
AxeMaster2001@aol.com writes
>
> In a message dated 11/1/02 1:38:23 PM Eastern Standard Time, primalchrome@bellsouth.net writes:
>
>
> Why is my opinon ill-conceived. - It is no more ill conceived than the following opinions :
> Germans are all anti-semites.
> Black people are lazy.
> White males are evil money grubbers.
> Muslims are all militant extremists.
> Meaning that they're ALL poorly thought out and highly insulting to the target.
>
>
>
> *sigh*
>
> So, because someone has a divering opinion of religion, they get lumped into the masses of ignorant racists? That statement is as bad as assuming I am a democrat just from
> stating my opinion.
It was also very confusing since 90% of the world thinks a democrat is
someone who believes in democracy rather than autocracy, tyrany or
someother unpleasant form of goverment. Which is why attacking democrats
doesn't go down well with people on the list who have suffered under
such non-democratic forms of goverment. It is necessary to remember that
not every one on the list is an american and will understand what is
said as common english and not with the special meaning it has to
americans
It reminds me of the passage in James Blish's novel about the flying
cities where a character poses the riddle "Which city has the same name
twice?", which is easy for americans but completely incomprehensible
outside the USA where city names are not joined with their
Glen has said many times that he has no interest himself in writing more BC
books other than keeping his agent happy. He is "planning" to write more
mainly to keep his agent of his back. And the new books, if ever actually
written, will take up where the books of the south ended.
He has stated emphatically that he will not write about the "past" of the
company. When asked if he would allow other writers to fill in the past of
the company, he said that while that was an intreguing idea, he doesn't
really think that other writers could keep true to his vision. He was then
asked what he thought of fan fiction filling in the companies past and he
said, " Write all you want. Just don't publish it without giving me some of
the money."
These statements are what he said at a convention a few years ago (during
which only one Garrett book has been published) and could well be be subject
to change.
Michael W Sweet
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT COLOR="#400040" SIZE=2>Glen has said many times that he has no interest himself in writing more BC books other than keeping his agent happy. He is "planning" to write more mainly to keep his agent of his back. And the new books, if ever actually written, will take up where the books of the south ended.
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<BR>He has stated emphatically that he will not write about the "past" of the company. When asked if he would allow other writers to fill in the past of the company, he said that while that was an intreguing idea, he doesn't really think that other writers could keep true to his vision. He was then asked what he thought of fan fiction filling in the companies past and he said, " Write all you want. Just don't publish it without giving me some of the money."
<BR>
<BR>These statements are what he said at a convention a few years ago (during which only one Garrett book has been published) and could well be be subject to change.
In a message dated 11/3/2002 7:24:31 AM Central Standard Time,
ga@bigpond.net.au writes:
> If you are - how many of you own _Everything_ ? (excluding swap academy).
I think I have all his stuff. I bought a copy of Sung in Blood from
Books-A-Million quite a few years ago, when they still could order it -
though it took months for them to find it - I bought most of the rest of his
stuff new, and a few of them used. I've gotten a number of his short stories
from ebay auction, I know there are a few periodicals which contain his work
which I don't have, but the toughest one, Sung In Blood, I do have.
Pete
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 11/3/2002 7:24:31 AM Central Standard Time, ga@bigpond.net.au writes:<BR>
<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">If you are - how many of you own _Everything_ ? (excluding swap academy).</BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
<BR>
I think I have all his stuff. I bought a copy of Sung in Blood from Books-A-Million quite a few years ago, when they still could order it - though it took months for them to find it - I bought most of the rest of his stuff new, and a few of them used. I've gotten a number of his short stories from ebay auction, I know there are a few periodicals which contain his work which I don't have, but the toughest one, Sung In Blood, I do have.<BR>