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fractint-digest Saturday, September 1 2001 Volume 01 : Number 591
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Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 19:53:29 +0100
From: John Lewis <jlewis@clara.net>
Subject: Re: (fractint) C-FOTD 30-08-01 (Butterflies Coming [6])
On Fri, 31 Aug 2001 09:57:15 -0500, Tim Lavoie wrote: On Fri, Aug=
31,
2001 at 09:47:49AM +0000, Andrew Coppin wrote:
>>BTW, is *everyone* on this list from America? Is that why my=
posts
only ever get answered over night?
>>Thanks. Andrew. "Here in Sunny Old England."
>Well, I'm in Canada, but just lurk so far.
>Tim, in also-sunny Winnipeg
I also live in Old England. But having been caught twice to-day=
without an umbrella, did the sensible thing and went home for it.=
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John
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Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2001 09:18:11 EDT
From: JimMuth@aol.com
Subject: (fractint) C-FOTD 01-09-01 (Room-102 [6])
Classic FOTD -- September 01, 2001 (Rating 6)
Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts:
We've all heard of room-101, the room in a hidden corner of the
Ministry of Love, which holds the worst thing in the world. But
how many have heard of room-102, which holds the best thing in
the world?
Like the contents of room-101, the contents of room-102 are
different for each individual. Some might find a vision of the
Deity. In my case, it might be the ability to visualize four-
dimensional objects, (if such an ability is possible). Or it
might be one of those mystical experiences that are reported to
be so effective at solving the mystery of existence, but which
so few experience.
Or it might be a real live fractal.
Today in room-102 we found a fractal -- the Mandelbrot set
enlarged to many times the size of the visible universe. Of
course, only an infinitesimal part of the entire set could fit
into such a small room, so we found only a midget located near
the tip of the negative stem.
The midget is invisible however. It clearly lies at the center
of the image, but several dozen more in-zooms would be necessary
to reveal it, and then it would merely be a series of circles
spoiled by moire patterns. Instead of going all the way to the
midget, I stopped at the point where the number of converging
elements resets from 64 to 8 before once again resuming its
bifurcation.
This bifurcation is a sign that the invisible midget belongs to
the family of midgets of a larger midget rather than to the
overall M-set itself. The unusual pattern, with its
in-thrusting fingers, is caused by the closeness of the scene to
the cut-off point of 2. To see how close it actually is, check
the real value of the center coordinates.
With a magnitude over 10^73, the image lies well into the range
of arbitrary precision, and therefore requires almost 2 hours to
render on my machine. It can be seen faster by downloading the
6-rated image from the internet at:
<http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html>
or:
<http://sdboyd.dyndns.org/~sdboyd/fotd/index.html>
but first give Paul and Scott a chance to render and post it.
The fractal weather today was sunny, muggy and very warm. The
temperature of 88F 31C, combined with the high humidity, was too
much for the cats, who returned indoors after only a few minutes
on the porch. Just after sunset, a very noisy thunder-storm
passed over, which sent them scampering for cover behind the
sofa.
And now, I think I'll scamper on down to the nearby fast-food
emporium for a junky breakfast. Then I'll check a few of the
stories in the October issue of the 'Analog' sci-fi-and-fact
magazine, which has a very interesting editorial. Until I
re-appear, take care, and does one ever grow bored with fractals?
Jim Muth
jamth@mindspring.com
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Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2001 12:53:56 -0400
From: "JackOTradez" <JackOTradez@email.msn.com>
Subject: (fractint) who cares?
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Who cares if you're from the Queen's bloo'y England or commie-Canada or =
wherever!
I didn't join this list to hear constant babbling about trivial things =
like that.
Does anyone here talk about Fractals or Chaos theory??
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Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2001 12:29:20 -0500
From: "Paul N. Lee" <Paul.N.Lee@Worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: (fractint) who cares?
JackOTradez wrote:
>
> I didn't join this list to hear constant
> babbling about trivial things like that.
It appeared to me that you joined the list to promote your "1st WEB
page" and some "little utility".
>
> Does anyone here talk about Fractals or
> Chaos theory??
You are always welcome to initiate the conversation, or even comment on
the daily "talk" that Jim provides on "Fractals". :-)
Sincerely,
P.N.L.
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Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2001 18:17:53 +0100
From: "Chris Curnow" <curnow@mail.telepac.pt>
Subject: (fractint) Thanks
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about.
I had a nail in the map somewhere near Chicago. Now where did I put =
that claw-hammer!
Cheers,
Chris
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Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2001 18:34:03 +0100
From: "Chris Curnow" <curnow@mail.telepac.pt>
Subject: Re: (fractint) who cares?
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Crikey! What an unpleasant email. Even the colour shouts.
Chris.
P.S. I care.
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Subject: (fractint) who cares?
Who cares if you're from the Queen's bloo'y England or commie-Canada =
or wherever!
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Chris.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>P.S. I care.</FONT></DIV>
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Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2001 13:51:50 -0500
From: bmc1@airmail.net
Subject: Re: (fractint) OK I give up!
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While only a subscriber for 3.5 of the 4+ years Jim has posted, I too appreciate
the daily "lift" - both intellectual and emotional - provided by Jim's
elegant posts.
<p>A concern - perhaps unique to me - is that this impressive body of work
may well go the way of many such on-line labors of love that exist in the
erasable world of cyberspace: obscurity, and ultimately, disappearance.
<p>Let's face it, even the best quality high-resolution large-format color
prints of such images eventually fade, smear and flake off. And the accompanying
narratives, which are as appealing and educational as the images themselves,
are likely to become separated.
<p>In contrast, the same image printed on high-quality acid-free paper
would last forever (or at least as long as any books last).
<p>In my humble opinion, Jim's thesis <b>"that complicated formulas are
not necessary for new and unusual fractals" </b>and his elegant daily demonstations,
deserve to be published.
<p>I - for one - would certainly pay the price (~$75) that Publishers tell
me such a 1- or 2-Volume compendium would cost. (Heck, the arithmetic is
easy: the $.08/page cost of using a color printer to reproduce just 1000
of Jim's >1500 existing images, Pars and Commentaries <b>already exceeds</b>
the COGS to produce them in the form of a hardbound book or 2-vol set)
<p>1500 people download Jim's images every day. Commercial publishers tell
me that 5000 copies is a typical press run for the first printing of a
graphics intensive-book. I'm quite sure that for every person interested
enough to have found them and download them from the Web, there would be
another 2 who would see the "book with the pretty pictures" in a bookstore
(Borders, Barnes& Noble, etc.) let alone via Amazon.com.
<p>So even if it were just another random "coffee-table book" for Xmas,
2001, it would be profitable for a Publisher and for Jim.
<p>That means it's do-able. I know I'd want one. Anyone else out there
interested ?????????
<br>
<p>D. Freed.
<p>John Lewis wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>On Fri, 31 Aug 2001 00:15:20 -0500, Paul N. Lee wrote:
From: Paul N.
<br>Lee <Paul.N.Lee@Worldnet.att.net Subject: Re: (fractint) OK I give
<br>up! Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 00:15:20 -0500 To:
<br><fractint@lists.xmission.com
<p>[Cut]
<p>For a little history on the FOTD, Jim made a posting on April 12,
<br>1997 to the Fractal-Art List which started the whole thing. And
here
<br>is a portion of that message:
<p>"I'll try to post a different image every day, until I make my point
<br>that complicated formulas are not necessary for new and unusual
<br>fractals."
<p>That first FOTD was the "SnakeTree" formula and PAR. And it has
been
<br>a most wonderous daily affair for all involved over the past 4-1/3
<br>years.
<p>And I would like to second the sentiment in the last paragraph. I
<br>have been enjoying them since I joined this list. Thank you, Jim, and
<br>they guys who publish your efforts on the net.
<p>John
<br>-- John Lewis, jlewis@clara.net on 08/31/2001
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Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2001 14:09:17 -0500
From: "Paul N. Lee" <Paul.N.Lee@Worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: (fractint) OK I give up!
bmc1@airmail.net wrote:
>
> ....printed on high-quality acid-free paper
> would last forever (or at least as long as
> any books last).
>
> I - for one - would certainly pay the price....
>
> Anyone else out there interested ?????????
>
It would be interesting to have a book printed with the first few years
of FOTDs (whatever it would take to make the first volume). And it
would be nice to see Jim profit from such a venture. But I do not
believe that 5000 copies would be sold around the world very quickly.
Now something a little simpler, easier and more economical would be to
take the whole FOTD web pages (text and graphics) and create a CD-ROM
which could be accessed whenever. All of the years could be included on
a single disc with room to spare for a separate area containing the PARs
and FRMs to be used by those programs capable of handling them. The
cost would be much better on the old pocket book.
Plus, the CD could contain at least two different resolutions for the
Users enjoyment while viewing. :-)
Sincerely,
P.N.L.
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Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2001 15:13:01 -0500
From: bmc1@airmail.net
Subject: Re: (fractint) OK I give up!- even further OT
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Paul -
<p>IMHO, <b>AN ABSOLUTELY FANTASTIC IDEA.</b> CD burns are an everyday
affair. No third parties, no BS overhead, etc, etc.
<p>Now, if we could just get this "Muth" guy on board . . . .
<p><b>Perhaps it doesn't matter</b>: persistent rumors have suggested
that the "fractal cats" are <b>actually</b> the ones reponsible for the
daily posts anyway.
<p>This theory was given some credence recently based on FBI & CIA
interviews with two <u>feline- Americans</u> [one d/b/a as "Tippy T. Tabby",
the other as "Thomas T. Oversized-Yellow-Orange- One"] at a safe-house
in the Washington DC-Baltimore area.
<p>Only time will <strike>tail </strike> tell . . . .
<br>
<p>D. Freed
<br>
<br>
<p>"Paul N. Lee" wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>bmc1@airmail.net wrote:
<br>>
<br>> ....printed on high-quality acid-free paper
<br>> would last forever (or at least as long as
<br>> any books last).
<br>>
<br>> I - for one - would certainly pay the price....
<br>>
<br>> Anyone else out there interested ?????????
<br>>
<p>It would be interesting to have a book printed with the first few years
<br>of FOTDs (whatever it would take to make the first volume). And
it
<br>would be nice to see Jim profit from such a venture. But I do
not
<br>believe that 5000 copies would be sold around the world very quickly.
<p>Now something a little simpler, easier and more economical would be
to
<br>take the whole FOTD web pages (text and graphics) and create a CD-ROM
<br>which could be accessed whenever. All of the years could be included
on
<br>a single disc with room to spare for a separate area containing the
PARs
<br>and FRMs to be used by those programs capable of handling them.
The
<br>cost would be much better on the old pocket book.
<p>Plus, the CD could contain at least two different resolutions for the
<br>Users enjoyment while viewing. :-)
<p>Sincerely,
<br>P.N.L.
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Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2001 23:01:53 +0200
From: Guy Marson <guy.marson@mnhn.lu>
Subject: Re: (fractint) C-FOTD 30-08-01 (Butterflies Coming [6])
At 09:47 31/08/01 +0000, you wrote:
>
>BTW, is *everyone* on this list from America?
No... I'm living at: N49Deg. 34'12,28"; E006Deg. 9'2,32" .. (No, it's not
a part of Germany.. ;-)))
home_gm {
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0.02941 0.00000 0.00000 0.20000 13.10000 0.30000 0.01229
}
cheers,
Guy
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Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2001 20:51:34 EDT
From: JimMuth@aol.com
Subject: (fractint) CD of FOTD's???
I have been toying with the idea of a FOTD CD for some time.
Such a disk would include all the images and the long version
of the discussions, which were posted only to the philofractal
list. With Tim's permission, I could also include the latest
version of the Fractint program.
I am set up to burn CD's. The only problem is a lack of time
to gather the elements and edit the superfluous material from
the discussion files. The coffee-table book is a good idea,
but impractical. The number of FOTD's must be near 1600 by
this time. I have all the images safely saved, but a few FOTD
discussions (35 or so) were lost when I suffered a disk crash
a couple years ago. The missing discussions, which I have not
yet identified, can probably be supplied by Paul, who I assume
has all the discussions on file.
If I see any real interest in such a project, I'll certainly
have a go at it. A little extra income could buy many treats
for the cats, who enjoy fractals but are too lazy to find any
of their own.
FOTD for September 02 coming in 12 hours.
Jim M.
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Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 02:07:49 +0100
From: "b.rankin" <b.rankin@ntlworld.com>
Subject: Re: (fractint) C-FOTD 30-08-01 (Butterflies Coming [6])
Hi.
Brian Rankin here.Just tried the formula, but i just get an error message
"cannot find file "home_town".
Please help.
Brian Rankin.
Ps. I live in Scotland.
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Guy Marson" <guy.marson@mnhn.lu>
To: <fractint@lists.xmission.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 10:01 PM
Subject: Re: (fractint) C-FOTD 30-08-01 (Butterflies Coming [6])
> At 09:47 31/08/01 +0000, you wrote:
> >
> >BTW, is *everyone* on this list from America?
>
> No... I'm living at: N49Deg. 34'12,28"; E006Deg. 9'2,32" .. (No, it's not
> a part of Germany.. ;-)))
>
>
>
> home_gm {
> ; Version 2001 Patchlevel 13
> reset=2001 type=ifs ifsfile=home_gm.ifs ifs=home_town
> center-mag=5.79991/0.501768/1.721194 params=1 maxiter=3000
>
colors=000BFGBDGBCG000<4>00000000000e0e0z00zzz0Zz0zzzzzLLLLLzLzLLzzzLLzL\
>
zzzLzzz000555<3>HHHKKKOOO<3>ccchhhmmmssszzz00z<3>z0z<3>z00<3>zz0<3>0z0<3\
>
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>
>hzh<3>hzz<2>hlz00S<3>S0S<3>S00<3>SS0<3>0S0<3>0SS<2>07SEES<3>SES<3>SEE<3\
>
>SSE<3>ESE<3>ESS<2>EHSKKS<2>QKSSKSSKQSKOSKMSKK<2>SQKSSKQSKOSKMSKKSK<2>KS\
>
QKSSKQSKOSKMS00G<3>G0G<3>G00<3>GG0<3>0G0<3>0GG<2>04G88G<2>E8GG8GG8EG8CG8\
>
AG88<2>GE8GG8EG8CG8AG88G8<2>8GE8GG8EG8CG8AGBBG<2>FBGGBGGBFGBDGBCGBB<2>GF\
> BGGBFGBDGBCGBBGB<3>BGG
> }
>
> home_town { ; generated by ifsspell
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> 0.04412 0.00000 0.00000 0.20000 0.10000 0.00000 0.01843
>
> 0.00000 -0.20000 0.07353 0.00000 1.10000 0.00000 0.03072
>
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> 0.04412 0.00000 0.00000 0.20000 1.30000 0.80000 0.01843
>
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>
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> 0.04412 0.00000 0.00000 0.20000 2.90000 0.00000 0.01843
>
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>
>
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>
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>
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> 0.04412 0.00000 0.00000 0.20000 7.60000 0.00000 0.01843
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>
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>
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>
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>
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>
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> 0.03309 0.00000 0.00000 0.15000 12.00000 0.85000 0.01037
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> 0.01636 0.21893 -0.03674 -0.00000 12.20000 0.50000 0.01680
>
> 0.05147 0.00000 0.00000 0.20000 12.80000 0.80000 0.02150
> 0.00000 -0.20000 0.04412 0.00000 13.00000 0.20000 0.01843
> 0.03676 0.00000 0.00000 0.20000 12.80000 0.00000 0.01536
> 0.00000 -0.20000 0.02206 0.00000 13.50000 0.00000 0.00921
> 0.02941 0.00000 0.00000 0.20000 13.10000 0.30000 0.01229
>
> }
>
>
>
>
>
> cheers,
>
>
> Guy
>
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Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2001 22:13:13 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jim Muth <jamth@mindspring.com>
Subject: (fractint) C-FOTD 02-09-01 (Land of Sunflowers [4])
Classic FOTD -- September 02, 2001 (Rating 4)
Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts:
Yes, I realize that it's a 4-1/2 hour image, but the devil made
me do it. I wrote in yesterday's discussion that the as-yet
invisible midget at the center was probably nothing more than
circles ruined by moire patterns. Today I had to check to see
if I was right.
As the rating of 4 shows, my suspicions were correct.
Everything close to the midget is indeed an un-resolved mess. A
log color palette would have cleared up a lot of the mess near
the midget, which could use another thousand or so iterations.
But when I tried the log palette, the area close to the midget
became totally flat and featureless. Enjoying chaos a bit more
than featurelessness, I decided to use the linear color palette.
The name "Land of Sunflowers" is more of a play on words than an
accurate description, though the resemblance to an actual
sunflower is reasonably apparent.
The circular character of the features surrounding the midget is
one of the greatest flaws with very deep midgets -- by the time
the midgets actually become visible, they all look the same.
The parameter file is attached for reference purposes. It can
be run, but only the foolhardy would attempt to do so. The only
practical way of viewing the image is to give Paul and Scott a
few hours to render and post it, and then pick it up from either
of their web sites. The URL's of the FOTD web sites are:
<http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html>
and:
<http://sdboyd.dyndns.org/~sdboyd/fotd/index.html>
After the big electrical storm last evening, the weather turned
cooler and much less humid today. The partly cloudy skies and
temperature of 84F 29C were appreciated by the fractal cats, who
finally came out from behind the sofa.
It's now time to enjoy the evening by settling into my favorite
chair and watching the junkiest old sci-fi movie I can dredge
up. The full philofractal version of today's discussion will
appear on the philofractal list in 12 hours or so. Until next
FOTD, take care, and don't get duplicated.
Jim Muth
jamth@mindspring.com
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Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2001 22:18:10 -0400
From: Mike Traynor <lmtraynor@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: (fractint) C-FOTD 30-08-01 (Butterflies Coming [6])
Brian,
> Just tried the formula, but i just get an error message
> "cannot find file "home_town".
> Please help.
It had been a while since I'd generated an ifs par, so I had the
same probem. Fixed by copying the stuff in "home_town { ; generated by
ifsspell ..." into a text file named "home_gm.ifs" in my \fractint\ifs\
directory.
Mike
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Guy Marson" <guy.marson@mnhn.lu>
> To: <fractint@lists.xmission.com>
> Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 10:01 PM
> Subject: Re: (fractint) C-FOTD 30-08-01 (Butterflies Coming [6])
>
> > At 09:47 31/08/01 +0000, you wrote:
> > >
> > >BTW, is *everyone* on this list from America?
> >
> > No... I'm living at: N49Deg. 34'12,28"; E006Deg. 9'2,32" .. (No, it's not
> > a part of Germany.. ;-)))
> >
> >
> >
> > home_gm {
> > ; Version 2001 Patchlevel 13
> > reset=2001 type=ifs ifsfile=home_gm.ifs ifs=home_town
> > center-mag=5.79991/0.501768/1.721194 params=1 maxiter=3000
> >
> colors=000BFGBDGBCG000<4>00000000000e0e0z00zzz0Zz0zzzzzLLLLLzLzLLzzzLLzL\
> >
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> >
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> >
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> >
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> >
> QKSSKQSKOSKMS00G<3>G0G<3>G00<3>GG0<3>0G0<3>0GG<2>04G88G<2>E8GG8GG8EG8CG8\
> >
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> > BGGBFGBDGBCGBBGB<3>BGG
> > }
> >
> > home_town { ; generated by ifsspell
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> >
> > 0.04412 0.00000 0.00000 0.20000 7.60000 0.80000 0.01843
> > 0.04412 0.00000 0.00000 0.20000 7.60000 0.00000 0.01843
> > 0.02941 0.00000 0.00000 0.20000 7.80000 0.40000 0.01229
> > 0.00000 -0.20000 0.04412 0.00000 7.80000 0.20000 0.01843
> >
> > 0.00000 -0.20000 0.07353 0.00000 8.60000 0.00000 0.03072
> > 0.02785 0.21540 -0.06964 -0.00000 8.40000 1.00000 0.03133
> > 0.02785 -0.21540 0.06964 -0.00000 9.00000 0.00000 0.03133
> > 0.00000 -0.20000 0.07353 0.00000 9.40000 0.00000 0.03072
> >
> > 0.00000 -0.20000 0.07353 0.00000 9.80000 0.00000 0.03072
> > 0.01471 0.25627 -0.01836 0.00000 9.80000 1.00000 0.00983
> > -0.01471 0.25627 -0.01836 0.00000 10.00000 0.75000 0.00983
> > 0.01471 0.25627 -0.01836 0.00000 9.80000 0.50000 0.00983
> > -0.01471 0.25627 -0.01836 0.00000 10.00000 0.25000 0.00983
> >
> > 0.04412 0.00000 0.00000 0.20000 10.40000 0.80000 0.01843
> > -0.04412 -0.00000 0.00000 -0.20000 11.00000 0.20000 0.01843
> > 0.00000 -0.20000 0.04412 0.00000 10.60000 0.20000 0.01843
> > 0.00000 0.20000 -0.04412 0.00000 10.80000 0.80000 0.01843
> >
> > 0.00000 0.20000 -0.05882 0.00000 11.60000 1.00000 0.02457
> > -0.04412 -0.00000 0.00000 -0.20000 11.80000 0.20000 0.01843
> > 0.00000 -0.20000 0.05882 0.00000 11.40000 0.20000 0.02457
> >
> > 0.00000 -0.20000 0.06250 0.00000 12.20000 0.00000 0.02611
> > 0.03309 0.00000 0.00000 0.15000 12.00000 0.85000 0.01037
> > 0.00000 0.15000 -0.02574 0.00000 12.45000 1.00000 0.00806
> > 0.02941 0.00000 0.00000 0.15000 12.20000 0.50000 0.00921
> > 0.01636 0.21893 -0.03674 -0.00000 12.20000 0.50000 0.01680
> >
> > 0.05147 0.00000 0.00000 0.20000 12.80000 0.80000 0.02150
> > 0.00000 -0.20000 0.04412 0.00000 13.00000 0.20000 0.01843
> > 0.03676 0.00000 0.00000 0.20000 12.80000 0.00000 0.01536
> > 0.00000 -0.20000 0.02206 0.00000 13.50000 0.00000 0.00921
> > 0.02941 0.00000 0.00000 0.20000 13.10000 0.30000 0.01229
> >
> > }
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