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fractint-digest Tuesday, May 15 2001 Volume 01 : Number 561
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Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 16:45:50 -0400
From: davides <davides@pipeline.com>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Windows Me
At 12:31 PM 5/13/2001 +0100, you wrote:
>
>Can you use Fractint for DOS on a Windows Me computer were DOS seems
>to be well hidden, please?
>
>John
>
>
>-- John Lewis, jlewis@clara.net on 05/13/2001
While I am not the person to ask, especially as I haven't run Fractint for
a long time due to lack of time, I do have other DOS based programs which
run fine under WinME; that being the case, I should think Fractint would
run ok. If nothing else, on my version, I can always access DOS via:
(Start/Programs/Accessories/MSDOS Prompt)
HTH.
Peace,
Peace,
David S.
A computer without Windows is like a fish without a bicycle.
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Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 14:07:24 -0700
From: "George Priest" <geopriest@raincity.com>
Subject: (fractint) float only version
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Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 17:09:00 -0500
From: "Jonathan Osuch" <osuchj@qwest.net>
Subject: Re: (fractint) float only version
George,
> Can someone tell me briefly the difference between the regular Fractint
and the float only
> version. Could I install the float-only version in the same directory
with the regular version
> and rename it something like FractinF?
The float only version has all the integer fractal types removed as well as
the integer math routines.
Yes, you could install the float-only version (renamed) in the directory as
the regular version. There is a problem with how the help file is located,
however. If the help is separated from fractint.exe, there should be no
problem. But, I think this has to be done before the two are linked
together. I don't have any experience with this, but Tim Wegner has done it
in the past to allow the executable to reside on drive a: and the help file
to reside on drive b:. He may have more insight into what needs to be done.
Jonathan
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Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 17:10:05 -0500
From: "Jonathan Osuch" <osuchj@qwest.net>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint version 20.1.10
> The Xfractint sources still haven't been updated (since 20.1.07). Maybe
> this next week.
Done.
Jonathan
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Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 15:21:33 -0700
From: jerome schatten <romers@home.com>
Subject: Re: (fractint) 8 bit colour
"Jim Shaffer, Jr." wrote:
>
> > Unfortunately - no. You have 2 options - restart your Xserver with
> > "startx -- -bpp 8", or use Xfractint 20.1.06 or newer.
>
> Assuming you're using Linux, can't you just start a second Xserver on a
> different virtual console, and leave your main one running?
>
> --
> Earth for Earthlings!
>
Here's what happens when I try that:
Fatal server error:
Severver is already active for display 0.
If this server is no longer running, remove /temp/.X0-lock
and start again.
Regards,
jerome
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Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 09:04:35 EDT
From: JimMuth@aol.com
Subject: (fractint) C-FOTD 14-05-01 (A Sizzling Sizzler [8])
Classic FOTD -- May 14, 2001 (Rating 8)
Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts:
Today's fractal is one of my better ones -- at least in my
opinion. With little time to describe the image, I will say
only that the scene lies deep in a many-pointed star on a
filament extending from a small bud on the shore of the curious
fractal that results when a certain amount of 1/Z has twice as
much Z subtracted from it.
The image is better than average, but does it sizzle? Each
viewer will have to answer that question for him/her self. I
named the image "A Sizzling Sizzler" because while trying to
think of a better name, I caught the aroma from a neighborhood
cookout. I imagined the meat sizzling on the grill and I had my
name. The rating of 8 might be a bit optimistic, but I need a
few images that rate more than a ho-hum 6.
The parameter file renders in 16 minutes, making a download of
the GIF image the far more convenient way of viewing the scene.
The download may be found at Paul's web site at:
<http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html>
and at Scott's site at:
<http://sdboyd.dyndns.org/~sdboyd/fotd/index.html>
The URL of Scott's site is new. I assume it works, though I
have not yet had the time to check.
The fractal weather today was near perfect, with sunny skies and
a temperature of 72F (22C). The cats approved vigorously.
That's it for this time fractal fans. I'll return with the next
FOTD within 24 hours for sure, and likely within 14 hours.
Until then, take care, and ain't fractals fun?
Jim Muth
jamth@mindspring.com
START 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================
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z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c,
|z| < l
}
END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE==================================
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Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 09:04:35 EDT
From: JimMuth@aol.com
Subject: (fractint) C-FOTD 14-05-01 (A Sizzling Sizzler [8])
Classic FOTD -- May 14, 2001 (Rating 8)
Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts:
Today's fractal is one of my better ones -- at least in my
opinion. With little time to describe the image, I will say
only that the scene lies deep in a many-pointed star on a
filament extending from a small bud on the shore of the curious
fractal that results when a certain amount of 1/Z has twice as
much Z subtracted from it.
The image is better than average, but does it sizzle? Each
viewer will have to answer that question for him/her self. I
named the image "A Sizzling Sizzler" because while trying to
think of a better name, I caught the aroma from a neighborhood
cookout. I imagined the meat sizzling on the grill and I had my
name. The rating of 8 might be a bit optimistic, but I need a
few images that rate more than a ho-hum 6.
The parameter file renders in 16 minutes, making a download of
the GIF image the far more convenient way of viewing the scene.
The download may be found at Paul's web site at:
<http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html>
and at Scott's site at:
<http://sdboyd.dyndns.org/~sdboyd/fotd/index.html>
The URL of Scott's site is new. I assume it works, though I
have not yet had the time to check.
The fractal weather today was near perfect, with sunny skies and
a temperature of 72F (22C). The cats approved vigorously.
That's it for this time fractal fans. I'll return with the next
FOTD within 24 hours for sure, and likely within 14 hours.
Until then, take care, and ain't fractals fun?
Jim Muth
jamth@mindspring.com
START 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================
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IdzFfzDgzAiz9lz6mz4oz1pz0
}
frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth
a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2),
g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j,
k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel):
z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c,
|z| < l
}
END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE==================================
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Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 17:39:10 -0400
From: "Jim Shaffer, Jr." <jmshaffer@alltel.net>
Subject: Re: (fractint) 8 bit colour
> Here's what happens when I try that:
>
> Fatal server error:
> Severver is already active for display 0.
> If this server is no longer running, remove /temp/.X0-lock
> and start again.
You should be able to start an X server on a different virtual console:
X -bpp 8 :1 &
You can then start xfractint on it with "xfractint -display :1" and switch
between the control display and the graphic display with ctrl-alt-f7 and
ctrl-alt-f8 (or whatever VC it puts it on).
In theory, you should *also* be able to get the control display on the new X
server with "xterm -display :1", but when I try it on my Mandrake 7.2 system, it
locks up the system. I have no idea why. In fact, in theory you should be able
to get a complete GUI on the second X server simultaneously with "startx -depth
8 -- :1" or something similar, but when I try that it locks up too. I have no
time to delve into the configuration of KDE and whatnot to see what's going
wrong.
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Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 20:55:48 -0500
From: "Scott D. Boyd" <sdboyd56@swbell.net>
Subject: Re: (fractint) 8 bit colour
On Monday 14 May 2001 16:39, Jim Shaffer, Jr. wrote:
>
> You should be able to start an X server on a different virtual console:
>
> X -bpp 8 :1 &
>
> You can then start xfractint on it with "xfractint -display :1" and
> switch between the control display and the graphic display with
> ctrl-alt-f7 and ctrl-alt-f8 (or whatever VC it puts it on).
>
mmmm.... that sounds interesting. I'll have to try that sometime soon. I
too had tried quite a while ago to start up an X server on the second
virtual console, but I remember I got some error message. Of course - I
used the startx command, so it didn't work.
> In theory, you should *also* be able to get the control display on the
> new X server with "xterm -display :1", but when I try it on my Mandrake
> 7.2 system, it locks up the system. I have no idea why. In fact, in
> theory you should be able to get a complete GUI on the second X server
> simultaneously with "startx -depth 8 -- :1" or something similar, but
> when I try that it locks up too.
I'm just making a semi-intelligent guess here, but could it cause the
system to run out of memory, considering that the primary X server/GUI
uses up almost all of the RAM? (I also use Mandrake 7.2.)
Scott Boyd
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Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 21:00:18 -0500
From: "Scott D. Boyd" <sdboyd56@swbell.net>
Subject: Re: (fractint) 8 bit colour
On Monday 14 May 2001 16:39, Jim Shaffer, Jr. wrote:
>
> You should be able to start an X server on a different virtual console:
>
> X -bpp 8 :1 &
>
Well.... I just tried it and received the same error message that was
reported earlier:
Fatal server error:
Server is already active for display 0
If this server is no longer running, remove /tmp/.X0-lock
and start again.
Scott Boyd
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Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 21:05:07 -0500
From: "Scott D. Boyd" <sdboyd56@swbell.net>
Subject: Re: (fractint) C-FOTD 14-05-01 (A Sizzling Sizzler [8])
On Monday 14 May 2001 08:04, JimMuth@aol.com wrote:
> and at Scott's site at:
>
> <http://sdboyd.dyndns.org/~sdboyd/fotd/index.html>
>
> The URL of Scott's site is new. I assume it works, though I
> have not yet had the time to check.
>
Yes Jim - it works. I had just been leaving a referring / auto-forwarding
link on my swbell.net website. All my content is now being served from a
Linux box running the Apache Web server here at mi casa.
Keep those amazing FOTDs a-coming!
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Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 20:01:03 -0700
From: Guy Hammer <guyh@aracnet.com>
Subject: Re: (fractint) 8 bit colour
On Mon, 14 May 2001, Jim Shaffer, Jr. writes:
> You should be able to start an X server on a different virtual console:
>=20
> X -bpp 8 :1 &
>=20
> You can then start xfractint on it with "xfractint -display :1" and swi=
tch
> between the control display and the graphic display with ctrl-alt-f7 an=
d
> ctrl-alt-f8 (or whatever VC it puts it on).
OK - this works fine on my Caldera system. (ctrl-alt-f9 to get to X
here) Now I find I've lost the e-mail about how to start xfractint in
something other than the default 640x480 resolution mode. (a postcard
in the upper left corner of my 19" 1600x1280 display... :) Any help
appreciated in advance...
- --
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Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 20:54:03 -0700
From: jerome schatten <romers@home.com>
Subject: Re: (fractint) 8 bit colour
"Jim Shaffer, Jr." wrote:
>
> > Here's what happens when I try that:
> >
> > Fatal server error:
> > Severver is already active for display 0.
> > If this server is no longer running, remove /temp/.X0-lock
> > and start again.
>
> You should be able to start an X server on a different virtual console:
>
> X -bpp 8 :1 &
>
> You can then start xfractint on it with "xfractint -display :1" and switch
> between the control display and the graphic display with ctrl-alt-f7 and
> ctrl-alt-f8 (or whatever VC it puts it on).
OK... finallly, I can bring up another X server with the above
command. When I say bring up another X server, I get the dotted
raster with the mouse position indicated by a heavy black 'X'.
The mouse moves, but that's all that happens. It goes no further,
so I can't issue the command 'xfractint -display :1'. I can, however,
switch back and forth between my original X server and what I
described above with ctl-alt-F7/ctl-alt-F8.
Some progress anyway.
jerome
>
> In theory, you should *also* be able to get the control display on the new X
> server with "xterm -display :1", but when I try it on my Mandrake 7.2 system, it
> locks up the system. I have no idea why. In fact, in theory you should be able
> to get a complete GUI on the second X server simultaneously with "startx -depth
> 8 -- :1" or something similar, but when I try that it locks up too. I have no
> time to delve into the configuration of KDE and whatnot to see what's going
> wrong.
>
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Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 22:57:24 -0500
From: "Scott D. Boyd" <sdboyd56@swbell.net>
Subject: Re: (fractint) 8 bit colour
On Monday 14 May 2001 22:01, Guy Hammer wrote:
>
> OK - this works fine on my Caldera system. (ctrl-alt-f9 to get to X
> here) Now I find I've lost the e-mail about how to start xfractint in
> something other than the default 640x480 resolution mode. (a postcard
> in the upper left corner of my 19" 1600x1280 display... :) Any help
> appreciated in advance...
xfractint -geometry 1600x1280
Have fun!
Scott
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Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 09:04:35 EDT
From: JimMuth@aol.com
Subject: (fractint) C-FOTD 14-05-01 (A Sizzling Sizzler [8])
Classic FOTD -- May 14, 2001 (Rating 8)
Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts:
Today's fractal is one of my better ones -- at least in my
opinion. With little time to describe the image, I will say
only that the scene lies deep in a many-pointed star on a
filament extending from a small bud on the shore of the curious
fractal that results when a certain amount of 1/Z has twice as
much Z subtracted from it.
The image is better than average, but does it sizzle? Each
viewer will have to answer that question for him/her self. I
named the image "A Sizzling Sizzler" because while trying to
think of a better name, I caught the aroma from a neighborhood
cookout. I imagined the meat sizzling on the grill and I had my
name. The rating of 8 might be a bit optimistic, but I need a
few images that rate more than a ho-hum 6.
The parameter file renders in 16 minutes, making a download of
the GIF image the far more convenient way of viewing the scene.
The download may be found at Paul's web site at:
<http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html>
and at Scott's site at:
<http://sdboyd.dyndns.org/~sdboyd/fotd/index.html>
The URL of Scott's site is new. I assume it works, though I
have not yet had the time to check.
The fractal weather today was near perfect, with sunny skies and
a temperature of 72F (22C). The cats approved vigorously.
That's it for this time fractal fans. I'll return with the next
FOTD within 24 hours for sure, and likely within 14 hours.
Until then, take care, and ain't fractals fun?
Jim Muth
jamth@mindspring.com
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Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 00:22:21 -0500
From: "Paul N. Lee" <Paul.N.Lee@Worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: (fractint) 8 bit colour
Jim Shaffer, Jr. wrote:
>
> You should be able to start an X server
> on a different virtual console:
>
Who knows, before long maybe XFractInt will be running on a Palm Pilot
as a terminal. ;-}
http://www.idg.net/go.cgi?id=475078
P.N.L.
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Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 08:06:44 -0400
From: "Multiple Bogeys" <neo_1061@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: (fractint) C-FOTD 28-04-01 (Semi-Chaos [4])
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An alternative explanation for the galactic rotation thing that is quite =
interesting is buried several links under:
http://www.reciprocality.com
It involves influences of a time travel sort. No dark matter required.
Quantized gravity or space/time are discussed in a number of places on th=
e net.<br clear=3Dall><hr>Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail =
at <a href=3D"http://www.hotmail.com">http://www.hotmail.com</a>.<br></p>
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<HTML><BODY STYLE=3D"font:10pt verdana; border:none;"><DIV>An alternative=
explanation for the galactic rotation thing that is quite interesting is=
buried several links under:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><A href=3D"http=
://www.reciprocality.com">http://www.reciprocality.com</A></DIV> <DIV>&nb=
sp;</DIV> <DIV>It involves influences of a time travel sort. No dark matt=
er required.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Quantized gravity or space/time=
are discussed in a number of places on the net.</DIV></BODY></HTML><DIV>=
<BR><br clear=3Dall><hr>Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at=
<a href=3D"http://www.hotmail.com">http://www.hotmail.com</a>.<br></p></=
DIV>
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Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 08:54:09 EDT
From: JimMuth@aol.com
Subject: (fractint) C-FOTD 15-05-01 (All Pooped Out [7])
Classic FOTD -- May 15, 2001 (Rating 7)
Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts:
Where are all those extra FOTD's coming from? Every time I post
through AOL, it seems to happen.
Today's FOTD holds a surprise. During the first half of the
render, it looks notably unimpressive, but the lower half
features a most unusual Mandeloid. This is not a midget -- it
is the whole fractal, which explains why the render goes so fast.
The iterated formula is a simple one, subtracting a portion of
Z^(-0.7) from Z^(0.7) then adding 1/C. The result is a picture
of a totally pooped-out Mandeloid lying flat on its face. I had
no choice but to name the image "All Pooped Out". I rated it a
7 because I think it's kind of cute, though I really don't care
much for funny-face fractals.
The render time of under 3 minutes is reasonable. If it is not
reasonable enough, the GIF file of the image is available on the
Web at Paul's site at:
<http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html>
and at Scott's site at:
<http://sdboyd.dyndns.org/~sdboyd/fotd/index.html>
The fractal weather today was reasonably pleasant, though a dry
squall spoiled the evening. The afternoon temperature of 73F
(23C) kept the cats happy.
I've got a busy day coming, so that's it for now. Until next
FOTD, take care, and see you soon.
Jim Muth
jamth@mindspring.com
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g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j,
k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel):
z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c,
|z| < l
}
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Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 08:56:14 -0400
From: "Multiple Bogeys" <neo_1061@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint version 20.1.08
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>Memory. Because of the memory model we are using (medium), we can't fit=
the
>PNG libraries into Fractint. There are solutions. We have tried compil=
ing
>the Xfractint code using djgpp, but it needs work. Any volunteers? We =
have
>the experimental code which incorporates the Allegro graphics package bu=
t no
>way as yet to save images. We could add the PNG libraries to Xfractint =
and
>stop developing the DOS version.
>We will eventually have to dump the current DOS source code, but would l=
ike
>to at least have something place for Windows before we do this.
DJGPP + Allegro? Right on!
That will give you 1 codebase that ports painlessly to DOS, Windoze, and =
Linux-x86 console. An X86-enabled port of Allegro would not surprise me b=
y appearing either.<br clear=3Dall><hr>Get Your Private, Free E-mail from=
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<HTML><BODY STYLE=3D"font:10pt verdana; border:none;"><DIV>>Memory.&nb=
sp; Because of the memory model we are using (medium), we can't fit the<B=
R>>PNG libraries into Fractint. There are solutions. We ha=
ve tried compiling<BR>>the Xfractint code using djgpp, but it needs wo=
rk. Any volunteers? We have<BR>>the experimental code whic=
h incorporates the Allegro graphics package but no<BR>>way as yet to s=
ave images. We could add the PNG libraries to Xfractint and<BR>>=
stop developing the DOS version.<BR><BR>>We will eventually have to du=
mp the current DOS source code, but would like<BR>>to at least have so=
mething place for Windows before we do this.<BR></DIV> <DIV>DJGPP + Alleg=
ro? Right on!</DIV> <DIV>That will give you 1 codebase that ports painles=
sly to DOS, Windoze, and Linux-x86 console. An X86-enabled port of Allegr=
o would not surprise me by appearing either.</DIV></BODY></HTML><DIV><BR>=
<br clear=3Dall><hr>Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at <a =
href=3D"http://www.hotmail.com">http://www.hotmail.com</a>.<br></p></DIV>
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Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 09:00:43 -0400
From: "Multiple Bogeys" <neo_1061@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: (fractint) C-FOTD 01-05-01 (Decorative Minibrot [6])
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>It is the square root of 3, a number I entered hoping
>to create midgets with 3-way symmetry. As of yet, I have found
>no such midgets, though I did find today's midget, which bears a
>curiously close resemblance to a standard quadratic midget.
>Only the chopped-off main bud reveals the midget's true nature.
This is because the exponent is close to 2, but isn't exactly.<br clear=3D=
all><hr>Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at <a href=3D"http=
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<HTML><BODY STYLE=3D"font:10pt verdana; border:none;"><DIV>>It is the =
square root of 3, a number I entered hoping<BR>>to create midgets with=
3-way symmetry. As of yet, I have found<BR>>no such midgets, th=
ough I did find today's midget, which bears a<BR>>curiously close rese=
mblance to a standard quadratic midget.<BR>>Only the chopped-off main =
bud reveals the midget's true nature.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>This i=
s because the exponent is close to 2, but isn't exactly.</DIV></BODY></HT=
ML><DIV><BR><br clear=3Dall><hr>Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Ho=
tmail at <a href=3D"http://www.hotmail.com">http://www.hotmail.com</a>.<b=
r></p></DIV>
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Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 09:30:25 -0400
From: "Multiple Bogeys" <neo_1061@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: (fractint) C-FOTD 28-04-01 (Semi-Chaos [4])
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>Just a note: we can't detect it only because it does not emit light that
>we can see.
If we can't detect it why do we know it's there?
We *can* detect it, inasmuch as we can infer its presence. But detecting =
lots of things is done fairly indirectly. Extrasolar planets, for one.
>Dark matter *could* just be ordinary, cold matter, and we
>would never be able to see it...from earth. If we can ever get out into
>the galaxy and universe, THEN we'd probably have no problem detecting it=
.
If we even recognized it. We might even trip over it. Check out the Rober=
t Sawyer novel Starplex. You can tell it's one of his early novels becaus=
e of the creeping featurism, but it's still damn good.
>So we *know* Newton is a 'special case' version of the full laws of
>motion.
More an approximation for low velocities and low masses/tides.
>On the other hand, a great deal of modern physics is based on the fact
>(or more properly, assumption) that the laws of the universe are true
>throughout the universe. This assumption has been explored in a variety
>of ways, and largely seems to be taken as fact.
>But who knows what really lies across the dark void, eh?
There is evidence that the fine structure "constant", at the very least, =
isn't; it varies over time or space very slightly. Major differences in t=
he laws, however, can be ruled out to ~12Gly. A qualitative change in phy=
sical laws would create an opaque or *very* odd transition zone and proba=
bly can't exist. Serious quantitative variations in the nuclear force and=
electromagnetic force coupling values would manifest in the character of=
distant stars; there'd be *very* weird looking stars out there. The H-R =
diagram for a galaxy 8Gly away would look substantially different than th=
e usual, local one. Serious changes over time lie at least 12Gy in the pa=
st, where the phase transitions and symmetry breaking of the hypothetical=
big bang would have occurred. There *is* a hint of these transitions, in=
the form of the well-known microwave background radiation.<br clear=3Dal=
l><hr>Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at <a href=3D"http:/=
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<HTML><BODY STYLE=3D"font:10pt verdana; border:none;"><DIV>>Just a not=
e: we can't detect it only because it does not emit light that<BR>>we =
can see.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>If we can't detect it why do we kno=
w it's there?</DIV> <DIV>We *can* detect it, inasmuch as we can infer its=
presence. But detecting lots of things is done fairly indirectly. Extras=
olar planets, for one.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>>Dark matter *coul=
d* just be ordinary, cold matter, and we<BR>>would never be able to se=
e it...from earth. If we can ever get out into<BR>>the galaxy an=
d universe, THEN we'd probably have no problem detecting it.</DIV> <DIV>&=
nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>If we even recognized it. We might even trip over it. Ch=
eck out the Robert Sawyer novel Starplex. You can tell it's one of his ea=
rly novels because of the creeping featurism, but it's still damn good.<B=
R><BR>>So we *know* Newton is a 'special case' version of the full law=
s of<BR>>motion.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>More an approximation fo=
r low velocities and low masses/tides.<BR><BR>>On the other hand, a gr=
eat deal of modern physics is based on the fact<BR>>(or more properly,=
assumption) that the laws of the universe are true<BR>>throughout the=
universe. This assumption has been explored in a variety<BR>>of=
ways, and largely seems to be taken as fact.<BR><BR>>But who knows wh=
at really lies across the dark void, eh?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The=
re is evidence that the fine structure "constant", at the very least, isn=
't; it varies over time or space very slightly. Major differenc=
es in the laws, however, can be ruled out to ~12Gly. A qualitative c=
hange in physical laws would create an opaque or *very* odd transition zo=
ne and probably can't exist. Serious quantitative variations in the nucle=
ar force and electromagnetic force coupling values would manifest in=
the character of distant stars; there'd be *very* weird looking stars ou=
t there. The H-R diagram for a galaxy 8Gly away would look substantially =
different than the usual, local one. Serious changes over time lie at lea=
st 12Gy in the past, where the phase transitions and symmetry breaking of=
the hypothetical big bang would have occurred. There *is* a hint of thes=
e transitions, in the form of the well-known microwave background radiati=
on.</DIV> <DIV><BR> </DIV></BODY></HTML><DIV><BR><br clear=3Dall><hr=
>Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at <a href=3D"http://www.=
hotmail.com">http://www.hotmail.com</a>.<br></p></DIV>
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