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fractint-digest Wednesday, December 20 2000 Volume 01 : Number 518
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Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 14:55:59 -0500
From: "Barry N. Merenoff" <110144.2274@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Corrections to the Fractal Art FAQ (v. 1.21)
Instead of &beta, isn't there something like &ss or &doubles that
represents the same character?
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Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 22:39:03 +0100
From: "Thore Berntsen" <thbernt@online.no>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Bug in fractint animator.
We're talking about a betaversion here...
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Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 1:51 PM
Subject: Re: (fractint) Bug in fractint animator.
> >The problem is in the FANIM.PIF file. This can be fixed in two ways.
> >
> >1. You could simply delete it, and a new one will be created.
> >2. You could rigthclick the file in Explorer, select Properties, click on
> >the Program tab. There will You probably see that the Working directory
is
> >set to C:\fractint not e:\fractint as it should for You. Just change it!
>
> CMIIW, but isn't changing the directory on the system tab supposed to do
> this? If not, why require people to specify the directory in two places,
but
> only document one of them?
>
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Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 13:00:13 +1300
From: <packrat@nznet.gen.nz>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Corrections to the Fractal Art FAQ (v. 1.21)
"Barry N. Merenoff" <110144.2274@compuserve.com> said:
> Instead of &beta, isn't there something like &ss or &doubles that
> represents the same character?
>
No, β refers to the lowercase Greek letter beta. The character you're
referring to is the "ess-zed" or sharp-s character ß, which as far as I
know is a peculiar to German. It's rendered as "ss" in English.
Morgan L. Owens
"Weierstrass, Weierstraß"
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Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 00:37:05 -0500 (EST)
From: Jim Muth <jamth@mindspring.com>
Subject: (fractint) C-FOTD 15-12-00 (Silversmith [7])
Classic FOTD -- December 15, 2000 (Rating 7)
Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts:
Another evening with telephone problems, and a C-FOTD to post.
I wonder if I'll ever get it sent on its way. I'll cut the
notes short just to be safe. It would be a shame if the picture
doesn't make it, but that's the way it goes sometimes.
The formula behind the image is -2(1/Z)-Z^(-2)+(1/C). Yes, I
realize that it's whimsical -- almost all my fractals are.
That's what makes finding fractals with M-Mix4 such fun.
I named the picture, which rates a 7, "Silversmith". I have no
idea why. I guess it has a bit of silver color in it.
With a render time of 7-1/2 minutes on a 200mhz Pentium, the
parameter file is a bit slow. The better choice is to download
the GIF image file from the Usenet binary newsgroup:
<alt.binaries.pictures.fractals>
(if you have access to the group), or from the W.W.W. URL:
<http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html>
if you don't.
The fractal weather today started rainy but cleared in the
afternoon. The temperature of 46F (8C) was mild enough, but due
to the wetness, the fractal cats remained indoors.
That's it for today. I'll return tomorrow with another
interesting fractal. And one of these days I'm actually going
to deliver some philosophy. Until next time, take care, and the
longer it takes the philosophy to appear, the more profound it
will be when it does.
Jim Muth
jamth@mindspring.com
START 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================
Silversmith { ; time=0:07:36.66 -- SF5 on a P200
; Version 2000 Patchlevel 14
reset=2000 type=formula formulafile=critical.frm
formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 function=recip passes=1
center-mag=+2.35040398558577500/+4.09464078855104500\
/5749290/1/47.499 params=2/-1/1/-2/-2/400 float=y
maxiter=1200 inside=0 logmap=120 periodicity=10
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}
frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth
a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2),
g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j,
k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel):
z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c,
|z| < l
}
END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE==================================
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Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 19:52:55 -0500 (EST)
From: Jim Muth <jamth@mindspring.com>
Subject: (fractint) Repost C-FOTD 15-12-00
Fractal enthusiasts:
I inadvertently posted the wrong parameter file of yesterday's FOTD,
which had an overall magenta cast. The correct parameter file is
attached below. The difference is small but significant.
Sorry about that.
Jim M.
START=========================================================
Silversmith { ; time= 7-1/2 minutes
reset=2000 type=formula formulafile=critical.frm
formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 function=recip passes=1
center-mag=+2.35040398558577500/+4.09464078855104500\
/5749290/1/47.499 params=2/-1/1/-2/-2/400 float=y
maxiter=1200 inside=0 logmap=120 periodicity=10
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3oK3lI3jI3gI3eH5cH7`H9YFBVFDUFFREHOEJLELK<8>cbhedkhf\
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szuuzvuzxwzzxzzxzzy<10>zzzzzzzzy<13>zzz
}
END=========================================================
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Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 21:49:47 -0500 (EST)
From: Jim Muth <jamth@mindspring.com>
Subject: (fractint) C-FOTD 16-12-00 (Fractured Fractal [6])
Classic FOTD -- December 16, 2000 (Rating 6)
Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts:
OK, so I made a mistake. I posted the wrong version of
yesterday's fractal. To atone for my misdeed I offer humble
apologies, and vow never to do it again. The difference is a
mere three-step increase in the overall green level, but without
the increase, the silvery effect just isn't there.
Today's fractal is a fractured, disjointed affair. The unusual
effect of bits and pieces of disconnected fractal stuff arranged
into filaments and circles is created entirely by the coloring.
The expression -6Z^(-2)-Z^(-8)+(1/C) was iterated by the
MandelbrotMix4 formula to create the image, which renders in a
speedy 1-minute, 10-seconds from the attached parameter file
I named the picture, (if that's what it is), "Fractured
Fractal". (This might be the second time I've used this name.)
I then rated it a 6.
The GIF image file downloads in about the same time from:
<alt.binaries.pictures.fractals>
or from:
<http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html>
The fractal weather today was mostly sunny but chilly, with a
temperature of 39F (+4C) that was just a bit too cold for the
dynamic duo of lazy cats. They spent the day inside, studying
the half-decorated Christmas tree.
I'm about out of steam, so I'll call it a night and shut things
down. Until tomorrow, take care, and when you discover the
secret of the universe, let me in on it.
Jim Muth
jamth@mindspring.com
START 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================
Fractured_Fractal { ; time=0:01:10.20 -- SF5 on a P200
reset=2000 type=formula formulafile=critical.frm
formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 function=recip passes=1
center-mag=-1.35635474669948800/+0.33386541040661780\
/1.052043e+009/1/-119.999 params=6/-2/1/-8/-2/325
float=y maxiter=350 inside=0 logmap=19 periodicity=10
colors=000AAK<4>AAK<4>AAKcUKzAOzzzGzNzz0zc0zm0zm0LBI\
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frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth
a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2),
g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j,
k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel):
z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c,
|z| < l
}
END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE==================================
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Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 21:34:45 -0500 (EST)
From: Jim Muth <jamth@mindspring.com>
Subject: (fractint) C-FOTD 17-12-00 (The Undecided One [?])
Classic FOTD -- December 17, 2000 (Rating ?)
Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts:
I can't decide how to rate today's fractal -- this is why I
named it "The Undecided One". I'm uncertain whether I like it
or not. One glance pleases me, another displeases me. The
striking reds and greens, which sometimes appear just right, at
other times appear discordant and downright muddy. As a result
of my indecision, I have not rated the image at all. I leave it
to the viewer to rate the image as they see fit.
To produce the image, the expression Z^(1.2)-0.9Z^(-1.3)+(1/C)
was iterated by that most prolific of all my formulae,
MandelbrotMix4. The parameter file renders in 5 minutes; the
GIF image downloads in 1/5 the time. The image may be found at:
<alt.binaries.pictures.fractals>
and at:
<http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html>
The fractal weather here at Fractal Central today was cold and
wet. The temperature topped out at 41F (+5C), which is too cold
for the sensitive fractal cats, who got no closer to the
outdoors than the window.
I'll return tomorrow. Until then, take care.
Jim Muth
jamth@mindspring.com
START 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================
The_Undecided_One { ; time=0:05:03.78 -- SF5 on a P200
reset=2000 type=formula formulafile=critical.frm
formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 function=recip passes=1
center-mag=+0.79542147989313690/+1.33561358576373700\
/5.13581e+008/1/9.999 params=-1/1.2/0.9/-1.3/-2/900
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frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth
a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2),
g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j,
k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel):
z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c,
|z| < l
}
END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE==================================
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Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 00:37:24 -0600
From: "Paul N. Lee" <Paul.N.Lee@Worldnet.att.net>
Subject: (fractint) [Fwd: Complete Archive of Fractal-Art]
Hello,
I just finished assembling the complete archive of the Fractal-Art
mailing list from its inception in February 1997 until the present.
There's currently a total of 6200 messages in the archive, and the
archive will be periodically updated. The text file describing the
structure of the archive is appended below.
You can retrieve the archive files from the anonymous ftp directory at
the following URL:
ftp://ftp.aros.net/pub/users/noring/fractal-art/
Obviously, the current archive is not in a nice, web-convenient form,
but it certainly can be converted into something web-friendly (there are
tools out there to do it), and I intend at some future time to do so.
In the meantime, I encourage those interested in the archive to download
and separately archive the files for safe-keeping. There's a lot of
interesting information in the archive, and *lots* of Fractint
parameter/formula files in the early years.
I especially want to thank Paul N. Lee who supplied to me the complete
Fractal-Art archive in the mbox form I needed from May 1998 until March
2000, a time period I was missing.
Enjoy!
Jon Noring
***********************************************************************
file 'archive.txt' at ftp://ftp.aros.net/pub/users/noring/fractal-art/
====================================
Fractal-Art Archive Information File
====================================
- ---------------------------
Important Copyright Notice:
- ---------------------------
Each message in this archive is copyrighted, owned
by the writer of the message. This archive is for
personal use only -- you may NOT republish or
redistribute any message (or any portion thereof
in excess of Fair Use) without the consent of its
writer. Most fractal image parameters, formulas,
color maps, etc., contained within the messages
are also separately protected under copyright law.
- ----------------
Acknowledgement:
- ----------------
I thank Paul N. Lee, who generously forwarded to
me his archive of Fractal-Art messages from May
1998 to March 2000, a time period I was missing.
His fractal-related web sites are:
http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/Fractal_Software.html
http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/Fractal_Links.txt
http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/Fractal_Census.html
- --------------------
Archive Description:
- --------------------
This anonymous ftp directory contains nearly
all of the unfiltered messages posted to the
Fractal-Art mailing list from its inception in
February 1997. Unfiltered means that off-topic,
administrative, and "fluff-only" messages (e.g.,
"me too", "I agree", etc.) have largely not been
culled out. Fortunately, these unwanted messages
comprise only a small percentage of the archive.
Each file contains 100 messages in unix mbox
format and readable as ASCII text. To save on
storage space and download time, each file has
been zip compressed. Do note that each file uses
Windows/DOS type EOL (end-of-lines) and under unix
the file may require deleting the last character
in each line (a CR, or a "^M") in order to
properly read the file.
Each file is given the name 'faxxxxx', where
'xxxxx' is the starting message number. For
example, file 'fa00001' contains messages 1
through 100; file 'fa03801' contains messages
3801 to 3900.
Following is a date summary for the archive files,
followed by the host domain history.
File | Start Date | End Date
- ---------+---------------+--------------
fa00001 | 26-Feb-1997 | 04-Mar-1997
fa00101 | 05-Mar-1997 | 13-Mar-1997
fa00201 | 13-Mar-1997 | 21-Mar-1997
fa00301 | 21-Mar-1997 | 03-Apr-1997
fa00401 | 04-Apr-1997 | 15-Apr-1997
fa00501 | 15-Apr-1997 | 24-Apr-1997
fa00601 | 24-Apr-1997 | 04-May-1997
fa00701 | 05-May-1997 | 13-May-1997
fa00801 | 13-May-1997 | 20-May-1997
fa00901 | 20-May-1997 | 03-Jun-1997
fa01001 | 03-Jun-1997 | 18-Jun-1997
fa01101 | 17-Jun-1997 | 30-Jun-1997
fa01201 | 30-Jun-1997 | 31-Jul-1997
fa01301 | 01-Aug-1997 | 29-Aug-1997
fa01401 | 29-Aug-1997 | 17-Sep-1997
fa01501 | 17-Sep-1997 | 13-Oct-1997
fa01601 | 13-Oct-1997 | 30-Oct-1997
fa01701 | 30-Oct-1997 | 14-Nov-1997
fa01801 | 14-Nov-1997 | 07-Dec-1997
fa01901 | 07-Dec-1997 | 01-Jan-1998
fa02001 | 01-Jan-1998 | 21-Jan-1998
fa02101 | 21-Jan-1998 | 29-Jan-1998
fa02201 | 29-Jan-1998 | 21-Feb-1998
fa02301 | 21-Feb-1998 | 16-Mar-1998
fa02401 | 16-Mar-1998 | 01-Apr-1998
fa02501 | 01-Apr-1998 | 22-Apr-1998
fa02601 | 22-Apr-1998 | 12-May-1998
fa02701 | 12-May-1998 | 07-Jun-1998
fa02801 | 07-Jun-1998 | 24-Jun-1998
fa02901 | 24-Jun-1998 | 11-Jul-1998
fa03001 | 11-Jul-1998 | 20-Jul-1998
fa03101 | 20-Jul-1998 | 26-Jul-1998
fa03201 | 26-Jul-1998 | 11-Aug-1998
fa03301 | 11-Aug-1998 | 09-Sep-1998
fa03401 | 09-Sep-1998 | 17-Sep-1998
fa03501 | 17-Sep-1998 | 02-Oct-1998
fa03601 | 02-Oct-1998 | 27-Oct-1998
fa03701 | 27-Oct-1998 | 18-Nov-1998
fa03801 | 18-Nov-1998 | 17-Dec-1998
fa03901 | 18-Dec-1998 | 21-Jan-1999
fa04001 | 20-Jan-1999 | 17-Mar-1999
fa04101 | 17-Mar-1999 | 23-Apr-1999
fa04201 | 23-Apr-1999 | 25-May-1999
fa04301 | 25-May-1999 | 13-Jun-1999
fa04401 | 12-Jun-1999 | 17-Jun-1999
fa04501 | 17-Jun-1999 | 29-Jun-1999
fa04601 | 29-Jun-1999 | 09-Jul-1999
fa04701 | 09-Jul-1999 | 10-Aug-1999
fa04801 | 10-Aug-1999 | 07-Sep-1999
fa04901 | 07-Sep-1999 | 05-Oct-1999
fa05001 | 05-Oct-1999 | 31-Oct-1999
fa05101 | 01-Nov-1999 | 19-Nov-1999
fa05201 | 20-Nov-1999 | 19-Feb-2000
fa05301 | 19-Feb-2000 | 19-Apr-2000
fa05401 | 23-Apr-2000 | 03-Jul-2000
fa05501 | 03-Jul-2000 | 06-Sep-2000
fa05601 | 06-Sep-2000 | 23-Oct-2000
fa05701 | 23-Oct-2000 | 25-Oct-2000
fa05801 | 25-Oct-2000 | 26-Oct-2000
fa05901 | 26-Oct-2000 | 01-Nov-2000
fa06001 | 01-Nov-2000 | 04-Nov-2000
fa06101 | 04-Nov-2000 | 16-Nov-2000
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Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 12:09:56 +0100
From: "Jean-Pierre Louvet" <louvet@hse.iuta.u-bordeaux.fr>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Off topic (was: Corrections to the Fractal Art FAQ)
Morgan and all who are interested,
I have made a little page (sorry, in French, but it is not difficult to
understand it) with several coding options for the same characters. You can
test it with your browser and say me what you see. I observe that IE5 has
not problem whatever the code used and that Netscape has problems on the
same computer.
http://www-hs.iuta.u-bordeaux.fr/test/caracteres-speciaux.html
I know that alpha, beta, gamma are not ISO latin-1 characters but it is
strange that Netscape shows problem, for example with English quotation
marks when translated into entities.
The entities where introduced in HTML to code characters which are not
standards in US ASCII.
I emphasize on the point that HTML-TIDY is supported by the W3C and
conversions made by this programs are expected to meet with the HTML rules.
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- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Morgan L. Owens" <packrat@nznet.gen.nz>
To: <fractint@lists.xmission.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 11:40 AM
Subject: Re: (fractint) Corrections to the Fractal Art FAQ (v. 1.21)
> At 15:22 11/12/2000 +0100, Jean-Pierre Louvet wrote:
> >In spite of the fact that the html code was carefully checked with the
> >validator html-Tidy (written by Dave Ragett, a gourou of the W3C) I was
> >informed, thanks to Angela Wilczynski that there were problems with
> >Netscape.
>
> You must have altered the page
>
> >http://www.cribx1.u-bordeaux.fr/fractals/
> since writing the above. My copy of HTML-Tidy described it as "HTML
> Proprietary"
> and refused to attach a DOCTYPE imprimatur. That 'orrible marquee tag
> probably had something to do with it.
>
> >It appears that this browser doesn't match with all the HTML standards
> >because it doesn't understand several entities like “ or β
> Neither of which are ISO-8859-1 (ie. Latin-1) characters. Whether these
> render or not depend on whether you have a font which includes them
> (otherwise how's the browser supposed to know what a β looks like?
And
> who want's to load their system down with a pile of Unicode font files at
> 13MB each?).
>
> >The new version 1.21 is compatible with Netscape 4 and IE5 (don't use
> >Netscape or Mozilla 6 wich have too much bugs).
> Well, Mozilla 0.6 is still in pre-1.0 development, so you can't expect
> perfection (though it's a lot more usable than Netscape 4.x). As for
> Netscape 6, which is worse, AOL doesn't have that excuse.
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Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 08:16:25 -0500 (EST)
From: Jim Muth <jamth@mindspring.com>
Subject: (fractint) C-FOTD 18-12-00 (Glowing [6])
Classic FOTD -- December 18, 2000 (Rating 6)
Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts:
Today's C-FOTD is being posted the next morning due to a power
failure. The discussion is short because I lost it when the
power went off. The image itself, which I named "Glowing" and
which rates a 6, survived.
The iterated formula behind the image is quite a strange one --
0.0005*Z^(1234)+0.05*Z^(-12.34)+(1/C). I chose the parameters
by shutting off my mind (an easy task) and putting my fingers on
'random'. The result speaks for itself.
The parameter file runs rather slowly, requiring 14 minutes on
an outdated Pentium 200mhz. But a faster way of viewing the
image is available. The pre-rendered image file is posted to
the Usenet binary newsgroup:
<alt.binaries.pictures.fractals>
and as soon as Paul can get the image file on his site, it will
be available on the Web at the URL:
<http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html>
The fractal weather today (now yesterday) was most active. The
day started with heavy thunder-storms, which gave way to warm
midday sunshine and a summer-like temperature of 62F (17C). The
fractal cats took advantage of the pleasant conditions by
spending several hours outdoors. But later in the afternoon the
clouds returned, with high winds near 60mph (90kph), more rain
and rapidly falling temperatures, which changed the rain to snow
before it ended. I assume the high winds caused the power
outage.
And now I've got a day's work to finish. Until next time, which
will arrive in only 12 hours or so, take care, and don't be left
in the dark about fractals.
Jim Muth
jamth@mindspring.com
START 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================
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formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 function=recip passes=1
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a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2),
g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j,
k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel):
z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c,
|z| < l
}
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Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 00:14:09 +0100
From: "J.P. Louvet" <louvet@hse.iuta.u-bordeaux.fr>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Corrections to the Fractal Art FAQ (v. 1.21)
Sorry, always off topic.
Morgan,
Yes, marquee is a proprietary tag but it doesn't introduce any drawback:
Netscape shows it as static text. It is not the case when Netscape can't
understand entities which are part of the HTML standard.
I have just checked my test page with Mozilla on a Linux box and it display
without problem all the special characters, including Greek ones (I don't
think that the GNU distribution of Mandrake 7.2 has many Unicode fonts
included).
But I don't recommend Mozilla or Netscape 6 for now because there are many
problems unsolved in these releases. Wait and see. IE 5.5 is the best for a
(few?) time.
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- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Morgan L. Owens" <packrat@nznet.gen.nz>
To: <fractint@lists.xmission.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 11:40 AM
Subject: Re: (fractint) Corrections to the Fractal Art FAQ (v. 1.21)
> At 15:22 11/12/2000 +0100, Jean-Pierre Louvet wrote:
> >In spite of the fact that the html code was carefully checked with the
> >validator html-Tidy (written by Dave Ragett, a gourou of the W3C) I was
> >informed, thanks to Angela Wilczynski that there were problems with
> >Netscape.
>
> You must have altered the page
>
> >http://www.cribx1.u-bordeaux.fr/fractals/
> since writing the above. My copy of HTML-Tidy described it as "HTML
> Proprietary"
> and refused to attach a DOCTYPE imprimatur. That 'orrible marquee tag
> probably had something to do with it.
>
> >It appears that this browser doesn't match with all the HTML standards
> >because it doesn't understand several entities like “ or β
> Neither of which are ISO-8859-1 (ie. Latin-1) characters. Whether these
> render or not depend on whether you have a font which includes them
> (otherwise how's the browser supposed to know what a β looks like?
And
> who want's to load their system down with a pile of Unicode font files at
> 13MB each?).
>
> >The new version 1.21 is compatible with Netscape 4 and IE5 (don't use
> >Netscape or Mozilla 6 wich have too much bugs).
> Well, Mozilla 0.6 is still in pre-1.0 development, so you can't expect
> perfection (though it's a lot more usable than Netscape 4.x). As for
> Netscape 6, which is worse, AOL doesn't have that excuse.
>
> Morgan L. Owens
> "Oh, why not?"
>
>
>
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Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 20:43:01 -0500 (EST)
From: Jim Muth <jamth@mindspring.com>
Subject: (fractint) C-FOTD 19-12-00 (The Mandelbrot Blues [4])
Classic FOTD -- December 19, 2000 (Rating 4)
Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts:
I think I'm growing bored with Mandelbrot midgets. It seems
that almost every FOTD for the past year has featured a
Mandelbrot midget. It's not that anything is wrong with
midgets, it's that fractals with midgets are but an
infinitesimal part of the fractals that exist. Perhaps starting
in January I'll concentrate on the non-critical parts of
fractals created by the M-Mix4 formula -- the parts that I've
been ignoring until now.
But January is still 2 weeks away, and today's fractal features
another midget. The formula that drew today's midget is
- -15Z^(-1.15)-Z^(-11.5)+(1/C). It's a simple formula, whose
potential belies its simplicity.
The name I gave the image -- "The Mandelbrot Blues" -- is a
reflection of my increasing dis-satisfaction with the seemingly
unending string of Minibrots, as well as the blue area
surrounding the midget. The rating of 4, which equals a little
below average, also reflects my dis-satisfaction.
At 11 minutes, the parameter file is slow. The download however
is fast. The download may be found by going to the Usenet group:
alt.binaries.pictures.fractals
and searching for the header 'Fractal for Today, 19-12-00'
The image also will soon be available on Paul Lee's web site at
the URL:
<http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html>
The fractal weather today was sunny but quite cold, with a
temperature of 34F (+1C), which kept the sensitive fractal cats
indoors.
The philosophy is yet simmering, as it has been for several
months. I hope to again find my muse once the holiday rush has
passed. But of course, there's no guarantee of anything except
that it's now time to shut down the fractal shoppe, comfort the
fractal cats, and call it an evening.
Until next time, take care, and give a gift of a fractal -- not
a print but an actual fractal.
Jim Muth
jamth@mindspring.com
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Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 23:35:29 EST
From: JimMuth@aol.com
Subject: (fractint) Classic FOTD 20-12-00 (Cerulean Microbrot [6])
Classic FOTD, December 20, 2000 -- Rating 6
Fractal enthusiasts and visionaries:
I hate computer crashes. This morning, the computer with all my
FOTD files crashed. Its hard drive is dead as a flock of dodos.
Luckily I had all the important files backed up -- all that is
except the program files that connect me to Mindspring, or
Earthlink as it is now called. I downloaded the files and never
thought to back them up. As a result, I'll be posting through
AOL for a few days, until I can replace the Mindspring programs.
In the meantime, the fractals will continue unabated. Today's
effort, which I named "Cerulean Microbrot" and rated a 6,
features an unusually well-defined Mandelbrot midget in shades
of tan and blue.
The expression -1.76Z^(-1.1)+1.44Z^(0.9)+(1/C) created the
image, and of course the MandelbrotMix4 formula did the
calculating. The parameter file renders in 11 minutes on a
200mhz Pentium. Unfortunately, since I have no access to
Mindspring and it is very awkward to post binaries through AOL,
the GIF image is not available on the usual newsgroup. But it
is available on Paul Lee's web site at the URL:
<http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html>
At least it will be available as soon as Paul has a chance to
render the image and put it on the site.
The fractal weather today was cloudy and cold, with a
temperature of freezing, which kept the two fractal cats snug
indoors. In the afternoon, a light snow began falling. The
snow became heavier as night fell, with about 3cm now covering
the ground.
And that's it for today. I'll return tomorrow with another
fractal. Until then, take care, and become one with the world
of fractals.
Jim Muth
jamth@mindspring.com
jimmuth@aol.com
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|z| < l
}
END PARAMETER FILE=====================================
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Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 23:47:57 EST
From: JimMuth@aol.com
Subject: (fractint) C-FOTD 21-12-00 (Cobwebs [4])
Classic FOTD -- December 21, 2000 (Rating 4)
Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts:
It was another busy day as I fought with a stubborn computer,
but as always I did manage to find a quick fractal. I named the
image "Cobwebs" because that's what came to mind as I studied
the scene. I rated it a below-average 4, mostly because I've
seen and rejected too many similar images in my fractal travels.
The formula 0.2Z^(4)-0.2Z^(-6)+(1/C) is responsible for the
image. The render time from the parameter file is a fast 2
minutes. Since I still have not regained access to Mindspring,
the image file will not be posted to Usenet, though it will be
posted to Paul Lee's Web site at the URL:
<http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html>
The fractal weather today was sunny but very cold, with a
morning temperature of 14F (-10C) and an afternoon high of 26F
(-3C). Such temperatures keep all fractal cats including Thomas
and Tippy snug indoors.
I'd write more, but I'm exhausted after fighting most of the day
with a crashed computer. Hopefully, tomorrow will bring a
better mood and a better fractal. Until then, take care, and
we'll never run out of fractals.
Jim Muth
jamth@mindspring.com
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a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2),
g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j,
k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel):
z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c,
|z| < l
}
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