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fractint-digest       Sunday, November 19 2000       Volume 01 : Number 510




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Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 22:42:47 +0100
From: "=?iso-8859-1?B?UHVza+FzIElzdHbhbiBqci4=?=" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Daniel Goldwater's email address

Does anyone know what Daniel Goldwater's email address is? The address at
spanky.triumf.ca and the homepage address there doesn't work.



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Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 16:49:59 -0600
From: Tim Wegner <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Possible virus sent to the list - please delete

Folks, please delete the list message from [e-mail]
with the attachment qi_test.exe.  This file triggers virus scanning
warnings. I don't know if it is actually a virus, but I suggest you
take this warning seriously.

Please note the following:

1. Please let us not discuss this or any other viruses on this list.
Virus discussion is off topic. (So far I haven't seen any discussion
about this on the list - thanks!)  You can email me, the list
administrator, privately if you think I need to take any action. As
list administrator, I can alert the list if necessary, as I am doing
now.

2. Attachments to emails on this list are strictly prohibited. If you
see one, I suggest you just delete it.

Sorry for the trouble, but this is bound to happen occasionally.

Tim Wegner
Fractint List administrator

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Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 19:17:23 EST
From: "Multiple Bogeys" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Re:

>Why?  Is profit a bad thing?  Who decides what the cost is, you or the
>creator of the product?

Profit is synonymous with greed. After all, it is hardly a fair trade if you
give fifteen dollars to someone in exchange for something with a value of
five dollars.

As for how to determine the value, there are already standard valuations for
unrefined materials -- e.g. crude oil, iron ore, timber. The only hurdle in
determining objectively the value of particular objects then is determining
the value of acts of labor -- then the cost of an object can be specified as
raw materials plus labor. (This could of course be chained -- for purposes
of determining the cost of a computer, a CPU chip might be "raw materials";
for the purpose of determining the cost of that CPU chip, though, there is
labor and silicon.) Some questions this raises include: where do taxes fit
in? and what about R&D/development costs? The former are in fact fees for
services rendered -- where those services are a standard package of services
provided by government, typically including some kind of infrastructure
maintenance and some kind of defenses, against internal and external
threats, fires, disasters, and diseases. R&D costs are tricky. Currently,
these are paid for using royalties from past efforts, but that means someone
who buys version 2.0 of something is actually paying for development of
version 2.5 as well, which they might never use, and which might in fact
never get constructed. Certiainly this is questionable at best. Certainly
also, entities that wish to pursue R&D of any kind that is actually
expensive to perform and can't be done on a hobby basis need some engine of
wealth creation. However, such engines exist without royalties -- the
exploiting of raw resources. They can buy stock in mining or energy
production industries! (Of course, these should eventually be mining
asteroids and producing solar and fusion power...)

>Distribution cost is small.  Cost of development and maintenance of a
>product may be tremendous.

See above.

>Though, I do agree you have a point with music CDs.  Albums used to be
>under $10 15-20 years ago.  Production and distributions costs have gone
>down, but the prices have gone up.  However, people have a choice to buy
>them or not.

The reason here is simple -- for a specific album, whoever manufactures
legit copies of it has a goddamn monopoly. (Under the above system,
monopolies wouldn't be automatically evil -- in fact the reasons one might
dislike them wouldn't usually involve prices, but rather quality or variety
or specific properties of a product. E.g. a monopoly in chair-manufacturing
that only made flimsy chairs in a sickly green color might be reviled. And
starting up a competitor to an established monopoly wouldn't be as difficult
as now.) The choices were, pay through the nose or don't listen to it. Now
that mp3z are easily obtained, though, they are going to be forced to change
their tune (no pun intended), regardless of what the legal system thinks of
mp3z...

>Nope.  I've been using 2.04 ever since it came out.  I maybe get a crash
>once every two or three months.  It never locks up the OS.

Well, either 2.04 crashes a lot or it doesn't. Since the evidence of my own
senses proves to me beyond doubt that it does, and since you are claiming
otherwise and are unlikely to be mistaken in your own beliefs if you have
used the program for more than about three minutes, I am unfortunately
forced to conclude that you are lying.

In any case, this is veering way off topic.
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Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 19:36:36 EST
From: "Multiple Bogeys" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Medical virus studies via fractals/chaos/logic-based probability - Doctorow

>My paper on logic-based probability (LBP) applied to quantum gravity and
>related fields has just been published in the volume Quantum Gravity,
>Generalized Theory of Gravitation, and Superstring Theory-Based
>Unification,
>Editors B. N. Kursunoglu, S. L. Mintz, and A. Perlmutter, Kluwer
>Academic/Plenum: New York 2000.

Is this available for perusal over the net? How does it mesh with theories
based on event-symmetry?

>We are only touching the tip of the iceberg here, and
>things may well reverse or change later, but there is some indication that
>computer simulation and modeling of life and/or AI enters a "danger zone"
>when it gets near a life-form virus simulation (not a computer virus!)...

I thought viruses were off-topic here. :-)

More seriously -- it looks like you were infected with a worm that sends
itself to anywhere where you send email. I suggest looking into it.

Good luck with your fractal research.

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Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 20:02:09 -0500 (EST)
From: Jim Muth <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) C-FOTD 18-11-00 (Discontinuities [4])

Classic FOTD -- November 18, 2000 (Rating 4)

Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts:

The day turned out surprisingly slow, giving me a chance to
ponder away most of the afternoon.  The subject of my
pontifications was, not surprisingly, mathematical instead of
metaphysical -- the fourth dimension in fact.  (To avoid the
pontification, heaven knows why, skip to the description of the
fractal, which follows the four-dimensional stuff.)

The fourth dimension is not an absurdity, but a useful
mathematical concept with a well-developed geometry involving no
contradictions.  However, to gain even a partial understanding
of its nature, we must resort to analogy with dimensions of a
lower order.

An aggregate is said to be one, two, or three-dimensional
according to whether one, two, or three numbers are necessary to
determine the position of any one of its elements.  Considering
space as an aggregate of points, a line is a one-dimensional
space, because to determine the position of any point on it, one
number, giving its distance from some fixed point, is sufficient.

Similarly, a plane is a two-dimensional space, and the point
aggregate of ordinary space is three-dimensional.  Now, if we
have four variable, related quantities, each capable of
assuming, independently of the others, every possible numerical
value, we obtain a four-dimensional aggregate.  Such an
aggregate, if of points, constitutes a four-dimensional space.

If we connect all points of our 3-space with an assumed point
outside of it, then the aggregate of all the points of the
connecting lines constitutes a 4-space, or hyperspace.  Again,
just as a point moving generates a line, a line moving outside
itself generates a plane, and a plane moving outside itself
generates a solid, so a solid moving outside itself generates a
hypersolid.

Any space is that which forms the boundary between two portions
of the next higher space, and just as a plane divides our
3-space into two separate portions, so a 3-space divides 4-space
into two separate portions between which that 3-space forms an
infinitely thin boundary in the fourth dimension.

Just as objects in our 3-space are bounded by flat or curved
two-dimensional surfaces, so objects of hyperspace are bounded
by hypersurfaces, that is flat or curved three-dimensional
spaces.  Hyperspace contains not only an infinity of flat
3-spaces like ours, but also an infinity of curved 3-spaces or
hypersurfaces of different types.  A hypersphere, for instance,
is a closed hypersurface, all the points of which are equally
distant from its center.

Freedom of movement is greater in hyperspace than in our space.
The degrees of freedom of a rigid body in our space are 6,
namely, 3 translations along and 3 rotations about 3 axes, while
the fixing of 3 of its points can prevent all movement.  In
hyperspace however, even with 3 of its points fixed, the body
could still rotate about the plane passing through those 3
points.  In hyperspace, a rigid body has 10 possible movements,
namely, 4 translations along 4 axes, and 6 rotations about 6
planes, while at least 4 of its points, not all in the same
plane, must be fixed to prevent all movement.

In our 3-space two movements of rotation will combine into a
single resultant rotation, similar to its component rotations,
except that the direction of the axis is different.  In
hyperspace however there is no resultant for two rotations, and
a body subject to two rotations is in a totally different
condition from that which it is in when subject to only one
rotation.  When subject to one rotation, a whole plane of the
rotating body is stationary, the points of the plane turning on
themselves while remaining in position.  When subject to a
double rotation, no part of the body is stationary except the
single point containing the two planes of rotation.  If the two
rotations are equal, every point in the body except that one
describes a circle.  If the rotations are unequal, the points of
the body describe something like a donut.

In hyperspace, a sphere if flexible could without tearing and
with only slight stretching be turned inside out.  Two rings of
a chain would fall apart at once, but a chain could be made of
alternate rings and hollow spheres.  Our 3-space knots would be
useless.  Just as in our space a point can pass in and out of a
circle without touching its circumference, so in hyperspace a
body could pass in and out of a sphere or other closed space
without going through its surface.  In short, all of our space,
including the interior of the densest solids is open to
inspection and manipulation from the fourth dimension, which
extends in unimaginable directions from every point of our
space.  If one were to ask the direction of hyperspace, the best
answer could be that it is sideways to our insides.

All this is curious, but of what use is the conception of
4-dimensional space?  For one thing, it gives a deeper insight
into geometry.  Thus, a circle, considered as a one-dimensional
aggregate of points, has very few properties, while in a plane
it has a center, radii, tangents, etc., and in 3-space has
further geometrical relations with the sphere, cone, etc.
Similarly, the properties of any given line or surface increase
in number when investigated in hyperspace.  Also, just as it
requires a 3-space to include certain one-dimensional aggregates
such as the helix, so in hyperspace previously unknown lines and
surfaces such as the pseudosphere become possible.  Just as the
comprehension of plane geometry is enlarged by viewing plane
figures from 3-space, so is solid geometry illuminated by the
geometry of hyperspace.  Finally, the concept of four-dimen-
sional hyperspace effects a complete divorce between geometric
space and real space, no longer considered necessarily identi-
cal, and in other ways also enlarges our mental horizon.

Now that our horizon has been enlarged, it's time to get to
today's fractal, which shows a midget in the Z^1.618034+C
Mandeloid.  The midget is surrounded by so many discontinuities
that I named the picture "Discontinuities".  Also, to add a bit
of tension to the scene, I moved the midget off-center.

Since I used most of my energy writing the discussion, the
fractal suffered.  But with its frenetic filaments and bizarre
breaks it still rates a 4, which is only slightly below average.
The 7-minute render time of the parameter file is slow enough to
make most fractaliers go to:

          alt.binaries.pictures.fractals

or in an hour or so to:

          <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html>

for a download of the pre-rendered GIF image file.

The fractal weather today was sunny and chilly, with a
temperature of 53F (11.5C) that was cold enough to keep the
fractal cats confined to the sunshine of the back porch.

Although my mathematical philosophy flourished today, my
metaphysical philosophy still slept.  I'll try again tomorrow to
dredge up some wisdom for the deprived masses of fractosophy
fans, and one of these days I'll actually have something notable
to say.

Right now, all I can say is that it's time to shut down the
fractal shoppe, settle into my TV chair, and try to avoid
getting sucked into the election confusion.  I'll put on a junky
old sci-fi movie to keep me distracted.  Until tomorrow, when
I'll return with another fractal and more words, take care, and
the less one thinks about the fourth dimension, the happier
they'll be.


Jim Muth
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  formulaname=MandelbrotBC passes=1 center-mag=-0.8602\
  1090723480100/-0.09223104404366109/84935.56/1/-75
  params=1.618034/0/-3/0 float=y maxiter=25000 inside=0
  logmap=120 periodicity=10
  colors=000M65<3>J64I64H63<2>E63D63C42<3>8848947A4<49\
  >ZpH_qH_rH<2>auIauIbtJ<40>oNgpMgpLh<2>qIjqIjrHmrGosF\
  qvDx<10>gG`fGZdGX<3>_HPaJP<3>XGLWFKVEJ<2>SCGQBERCF<6\
  9>rqisrjssj<3>vvmwwmwwm<21>wwm
  }

frm:MandelbrotBC = { ; Z = Z^E + C
  e=p1
  p=real(p2)+PI
  q=2*PI*trunc(p/(2*PI))
  r=real(p2)-q
  Z=C=Pixel:
    Z=log(Z)
    IF(imag(Z)>r)
      Z=Z+flip(2*PI)
    ENDIF
    Z=exp(e*(Z+flip(q)))+C
  |Z|<100
}

END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE==================================


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Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 19:22:03 EST
From: "Multiple Bogeys" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Re:

>It depends on how much IP there is in the program.

IP?

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Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 22:22:50 -0500
From: "Joseph Guth, Ph.D., CIH" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Possible virus sent to the list - please delete

(Mr. Wegner.  Please excuse this added virus discussion.  If this saves the
members of the list from quitting it out of concern of a repeat, then I
would say its worth a brief mention before we get back to the subject of
interest... Fractint.  Here are my 2 cents for what its worth.)

Dear Fracint list

According to my analysis of the [e-mail] attachment, this was
sent from a virus infected computer from the email address
[e-mail].  It is a relatively new worm virus with medium to high
damage potential and has been designated the W95_MTX virus.  Unless you know
how to handle computer virus files safely, it is best to delete any and all
emails without opening them from the above address.  Dr. Osher Doctorow, the
individual who signed an accompanying email from this address should not
send any more emails out on this computer until his computer and all
removable disks he uses have been virus scanned and cleaned of this highly
damaging code.  It is obvious that he either doesn't have an antivirus
program or doesn't have one with this virus definition in it so it is going
to be doing much damage to his own computer in short order.  Dr. Doctorow,
if you can read this, I would strongly suggest you get some specialized help
in salvaging your computer files if you care at all about what is on your
hard drive.  Otherwise, its best to do a complete low level reformatting of
your hard drives and start from scratch.  You can contact me directly for
more information if you wish.  I have several information files on this
virus and its capabilities as well as the removal procedure.

Sincerely,

Joseph H. Guth, Ph.D.
President
Scientific and Forensic Services, Inc.
4034 Heutte Drive, Norfolk, VA 23518
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From: "Tim Wegner" <[e-mail]>
To: <[e-mail]>
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2000 5:49 PM
Subject: (fractint) Possible virus sent to the list - please delete


Folks, please delete the list message from [e-mail]
with the attachment qi_test.exe.  This file triggers virus scanning
warnings. I don't know if it is actually a virus, but I suggest you
take this warning seriously.

Please note the following:

1. Please let us not discuss this or any other viruses on this list.
Virus discussion is off topic. (So far I haven't seen any discussion
about this on the list - thanks!)  You can email me, the list
administrator, privately if you think I need to take any action. As
list administrator, I can alert the list if necessary, as I am doing
now.

2. Attachments to emails on this list are strictly prohibited. If you
see one, I suggest you just delete it.

Sorry for the trouble, but this is bound to happen occasionally.

Tim Wegner
Fractint List administrator

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Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 20:06:25 -0800
From: Ken Childress <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Re:

Whomever you are,

[Drivel deleted]

>>Nope.  I've been using 2.04 ever since it came out.  I maybe get a crash
>>once every two or three months.  It never locks up the OS.
>
>Well, either 2.04 crashes a lot or it doesn't. Since the evidence of my
>own senses proves to me beyond doubt that it does, and since you are
>claiming otherwise and are unlikely to be mistaken in your own beliefs if
>you have used the program for more than about three minutes, I am
>unfortunately forced to conclude that you are lying.

I don't appreciate being called a liar by an anonymous twit.  If you
are going to make personal accusations, at least have the courage to
do so with a real id.

There have already been several responses verifying what I stated.  I
guess they are all liars as well.

The solution is simple, don't use UF.  In any case, I think all can
see you for what you are.

>In any case, this is veering way off topic.

My apologies to the list and to Tim for this message, but I felt it
necessary to respond to this idiot.  I shall not do so in the future.


Ken...



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Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 17:11:37 +1300
From: "Morgan L. Owens" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Re:

Multiple Bogeys ask:

>IP?

Intellectual Property.

Ultrafractal's author (whose name escapes me for the moment) has said that
most of Ultrafractal's internals are based on public-domain material.

Morgan L. Owens
"September 28th, 1999 Amazon.com patents cookies."


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Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 23:49:03 -0500
From: Harry Bissell <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: getting OT ???

Short for Intellectual Property...

without the concept of intellectual property... such fields as engineering
and
computer science are impossible.

H^) harry

Multiple Bogeys wrote:

> >It depends on how much IP there is in the program.
>
> IP?
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Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 00:23:43 -0600
From: "Paul N. Lee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Daniel Goldwater's email address

Puskßs Istvßn jr. wrote:
>
> Does anyone know what Daniel Goldwater's email
> address is?

I have three different ones listed in the "Fractal Census", but don't
know if they are still valid:

    http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/Fractal_Census.html

Sincerely,
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Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 10:21:18 -0800
From: "Jim Prickett" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Virus From: <[e-mail]>

I was sent a blank message containing the attached file qi_test.exe.

qi_test.exe is infected by W32/MTX@MM, a combination of a Virus, Worm
and Backdoor.  See http://vil.mcafee.com/dispVirus.asp?virus_k=98797&
for more info.

I hope nobody ran this.

Jim Prickett
[e-mail]

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Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 12:37:50 -0600
From: Bob Margolis <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Virus From: <[e-mail]>

Jim Prickett wrote:
>
> I was sent a blank message containing the attached file qi_test.exe.
>
>
> I hope nobody ran this.
>

wHy ┐

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Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 14:32:12 -0500
From: "Raghav Agnihothri" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Virus From: <[e-mail]>

I view all my messages using Outlook Express, is that going to create a
problem with this virus....(I.e. did I open the mail/virus?)...I deleted
when I saw that it was empty with an attachment, and I didn't run the
attachment or anything, but I don't know if just looking at it in Outlook
Express does anything

Raghav
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To: <[e-mail]>
Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2000 1:21 PM
Subject: (fractint) Virus From: <[e-mail]>


> I was sent a blank message containing the attached file qi_test.exe.
>
> qi_test.exe is infected by W32/MTX@MM, a combination of a Virus, Worm
> and Backdoor.  See http://vil.mcafee.com/dispVirus.asp?virus_k=98797&
> for more info.
>
> I hope nobody ran this.
>
> Jim Prickett
> [e-mail]
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <[e-mail]>
> Sent: Friday, November 17, 2000 12:15 PM
>
>
>
>
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Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 17:54:57 -0500
From: "Jim Shaffer, Jr." <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: getting OT ???

> without the concept of intellectual property... such fields as engineering
> and computer science are impossible.

So you're not familiar with Linux, nor with the IBM PC?

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Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 20:25:16 -0500 (EST)
From: Jim Muth <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) C-FOTD 19-11-00 (Making a Big Splash [5])

Classic FOTD -- November 19, 2000 (Rating 5)

Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts:

Today's rather striking fractal makes a big splash.  But despite
the splash I could rate it no higher than an average 5.

While investigating the variety of midgets in the Z^1.618034+C
Mandeloid this evening, I came upon this lively little midget.
The resemblance to a splash in a bowl of green liquid is so
striking that I named the picture "Making a Big Splash".

In addition to splashing, the picture also shows that the
Mandeloid midgets of orders between +1 and +2 can hold a few
surprises, and are not always a disorganized mass of discontin-
uous branch cuts.

The parameter file renders in 4-1/2 minutes on a 200mhz Pentium
machine.  The GIF image file, which can be found at:

          alt.binaries.pictures.fractals

and in a hour or so also at:

          <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html>

downloads in several minutes less than than 4-1/2 minutes.

The fractal weather today here at F.C. was mostly sunny and
suitably chilly for late Autumn.  The temperature of 46F (8C)
held the fractal cats to a brief 10 minutes outdoors.

I had a lot more four-dimensional curiosities ready to write
about today, but I got bogged down in yard work and never found
the time.  I'll try again tomorrow.  Until then, take care, and
to break life's monotony, try a fractal.


Jim Muth
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START 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================

Making_a_BigSplash { ; time=0:04:34.40 -- SF5 on a P200
  reset=2001 type=formula formulafile=critical.frm
  formulaname=MandelbrotBC passes=1
  center-mag=+0.07741527538333934/-0.85262096757411960\
  /76711.97/1/-117.499 params=1.618034/0/-2/0 float=y
  maxiter=12000 inside=0 logmap=88 periodicity=10
  colors=000GOAJPEKRIMUMPYQQ_UTaYVe`WhdZji`llappdstfux\
  hvz<3>_ukauhZsdVo`RjYOdU<3>9KK5II26F02D040<3>0D00F00\
  I20K35M4BO5IQ6KT6MV8PW9RZAU`BWcD_eEcfFfiGjkInnJoqI0o\
  J<2>0fL0dM0`M0ZO2VP2TP3QQ4MR4KR5GT6EU6BU9JUBPUEWUGaU\
  JiULoUQtVOuUMuTKuRJuRGvQFvPDvOBvOAxM<2>4xK3yJ0yI0yG0\
  zE0yG0yI2xK3xL5vO6vP9uQAuTDtUEtWGsYIsZKq`LqaOpdPpeQp\
  f<2>JnZGnWFlU<2>8kM5jK4jI2iF0iD0hA0h80e93d95c99aAD_A\
  FZAJYBMWBPVBTTDWRDZQDaPEeMEhLEkKFoJFqIFsGI<2>uDMvDOx\
  BQyARy9Uz8Vz8Wz6Z<2>z3cz2j<3>z4oz5pz5q<2>z6utAvkExcG\
  yVKzMMzEQz4Uz<4>D_zE`zFazIczJdzKezLfzOhzPizQjzTkzUlz\
  VnzWpzZqz_sz`tzcuz<3>Yzz<8>azzazzczz<3>dzzezzezzizz<\
  4>RzzOzzKzz<3>6zz<3>4zz3zz3zz0zz3zz5zz9zzBzzEzzIzzKz\
  zOzz<3>Zzzazzdzzfzz9zz8zz8zzAzzDzzEzz
  }

frm:MandelbrotBC = { ; Z = Z^E + C
  e=p1
  p=real(p2)+PI
  q=2*PI*trunc(p/(2*PI))
  r=real(p2)-q
  Z=C=Pixel:
    Z=log(Z)
    IF(imag(Z)>r)
      Z=Z+flip(2*PI)
    ENDIF
    Z=exp(e*(Z+flip(q)))+C
  |Z|<100
}

END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE==================================


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Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 21:11:46 -0500
From: "Barry N. Merenoff" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Message to Mr. Doctorow

Dear Mr. Doctorow,
        Not only should you remove the virus from your system, but also y=
ou
should get an air conditioner for your computer room, and you should make=

sure your CPU's vent slits are uncovered.

Sincerely,
        Collin

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Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 00:00:07 EST
From: "Multiple Bogeys" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Re:

>I don't appreciate being called a liar [irrelevancies deleted].

You have some nerve saying this, when the last time you posted you called
*me* a liar.
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Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 00:58:28 -0500
From: Paul DeCelle <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Re:

Um, As the one who (inadvertently) started all this, I apologise.  I thou=
ght I was responding
privately to b=E4rbel when I wrote.  My mistake.

Regards, Paul


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Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 06:23:46 -0500
From: davides <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: (For Paul)

At 12:58 AM 11/19/2000 -0500, you wrote:
>Um, As the one who (inadvertently) started all this, I apologise.  I
thought I was responding
>privately to b=E4rbel when I wrote.  My mistake.
>
>Regards, Paul

'tain't your fault, Paul.
BTW, glad you liked that one image I posted on abpf (the one "for Paul");
if I can find time, I intend on doing one especially for you in UF. It
would have to be something special considering the quality of of the great
art you post!  :)


David S.

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Back up my hard drive?
How do I put it in reverse?

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Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 12:18:48 -0600
From: "Jonathan Osuch" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Fractint version 20.1.03

The latest patch and executable of Fractint version 20.1 are now available
at www.fractint.org   The executable is fradev.zip.

It fixes the incremental redraw problem with setting passes=1 after being
interrupted.  The range of bailout values that work with ap-math is now
larger.  Still nothing to write home about.  A new command line option has
been added, nobof=yes, which causes the inside=bof60 and bof61 options to
NOT recreate the images from the book of the same name.  This makes the
behavior of these two inside options the same as the other inside options.

Jonathan



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Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 16:11:25 -0500
From: "James R. McKenzie" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Virus From: <[e-mail]>

I got it too but Norton AV (Version 7.0x) caught it.  Dammit can't these
little snots who write these things get a damned life?!?!


                             T H A N K   Y O U


                             James R. McKenzie


                         [e-mail]

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From: "Jim Prickett" <[e-mail]>
To: <[e-mail]>
Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2000 1:21 PM
Subject: (fractint) Virus From: <[e-mail]>


> I was sent a blank message containing the attached file qi_test.exe.
>
> qi_test.exe is infected by W32/MTX@MM, a combination of a Virus, Worm
> and Backdoor.  See http://vil.mcafee.com/dispVirus.asp?virus_k=98797&
> for more info.
>
> I hope nobody ran this.
>
> Jim Prickett
> [e-mail]
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <[e-mail]>
> Sent: Friday, November 17, 2000 12:15 PM
>
>
>
>
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