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fractint-digest       Friday, September 17 1999       Volume 01 : Number 413




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Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 21:18:06 -0400
From: Bill Jemison <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Trouble with Evolver

Ron,

 << Here is a par (first one I have submitted for Fractint in a very long=

 << time :-)). The graphics resolution will affect the tune.

 <<Snowflakes     {
 <<                ; Ron Barnett, September 13, 1999
 <<                ; Fractint ver. 20.0
 <<   ...

Really nice music par! I really enjoyed it, and tried at various
resolutions, including large diskvideo modes (nice looooong sessions <g>)=
.

I particularly liked the scale mapping you used...good work!

Bill

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Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 21:50:45 -0400
From: JoWeber <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Another carr formula par

Hi All,

some zooms into Carr2891 and Carr2939.

Enjoy --Jo--

http://www.joweber.de

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                     ; on a P233MMX at 1600x1200  Aug 19, 1999  00:54:56
                     ; Par and Image Copyright 1999 by Jo Weber
                     ; e-mail to [e-mail]
  reset=3D1960 type=3Dformula formulafile=3Dfractint.frm
  formulaname=3Dcarr2891 passes=3D1
  center-mag=3D-0.00180494/0.0015702/2.574084/1/-14.999
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6c289114           { ; t=3D  0:42:29.31 =

                     ; on a P233MMX at 1600x1200  Aug 19, 1999  00:55:20
                     ; Par and Image Copyright 1999 by Jo Weber
                     ; e-mail to [e-mail]
  reset=3D1960 type=3Dformula formulafile=3Dfractint.frm
  formulaname=3Dcarr2891 passes=3D1
  center-mag=3D+0.27158177846209420/-0.57489063269758780/94.78983/1/-29.9=
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  params=3D200/300/400/550 float=3Dy maxiter=3D647 periodicity=3D0
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                     ; on a P233MMX at 1600x1200  Aug 19, 1999  00:55:32
                     ; Par and Image Copyright 1999 by Jo Weber
                     ; e-mail to [e-mail]
  reset=3D1960 type=3Dformula formulafile=3Dfractint.frm
  formulaname=3Dcarr2939 passes=3D1
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                     ; on a P233MMX at 1600x1200  Aug 19, 1999  00:55:47
                     ; Par and Image Copyright 1999 by Jo Weber
                     ; e-mail to [e-mail]
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  center-mag=3D+0.30565287451883730/+0.94791352416572470/52.40934/1/-135
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                     ; on a P233MMX at 1600x1200  Aug 19, 1999  00:55:58
                     ; Par and Image Copyright 1999 by Jo Weber
                     ; e-mail to [e-mail]
  reset=3D1960 type=3Dformula formulafile=3Dfractint.frm
  formulaname=3Dcarr2939 passes=3D1
  center-mag=3D+0.16402166300498100/-0.29815484029751390/36.62661/1/-79.9=
99
  params=3D200/300/400/550 float=3Dy maxiter=3D647 periodicity=3D0
  colors=3D000T00<6>800000007<11>70X<6>vsd<2>jiffefbbfY_fUXg<2>IMh<3>`Fw<=
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                     ; on a P233MMX at 1600x1200  Aug 19, 1999  00:56:07
                     ; Par and Image Copyright 1999 by Jo Weber
                     ; e-mail to [e-mail]
  reset=3D1960 type=3Dformula formulafile=3Dfractint.frm
  formulaname=3Dcarr2939 passes=3D1
  center-mag=3D+0.26706192013706520/+0.86355194874166650/96.42579/1/145
  params=3D200/300/400/550 float=3Dy maxiter=3D647 periodicity=3D0
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                     ; Par and Image Copyright 1999 by Jo Weber
                     ; e-mail to [e-mail]
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  formulaname=3Dcarr2939 passes=3D1
  center-mag=3D+0.17106306245909850/-0.28832514958665110/251.9717/1/-80
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                     ; on a P233MMX at 1600x1200  Aug 19, 1999  00:56:29
                     ; Par and Image Copyright 1999 by Jo Weber
                     ; e-mail to [e-mail]
  reset=3D1960 type=3Dformula formulafile=3Dfractint.frm
  formulaname=3Dcarr2939 passes=3D1
  center-mag=3D+0.13507004543312170/-0.43680929986672170/1747.731/1/-37.4=
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                     ; on a P233MMX at 1600x1200  Aug 19, 1999  00:56:40
                     ; Par and Image Copyright 1999 by Jo Weber
                     ; e-mail to [e-mail]
  reset=3D1960 type=3Dformula formulafile=3Dfractint.frm
  formulaname=3Dcarr2939 passes=3D1
  center-mag=3D+0.25586655386249250/+0.85330515391690130/194.4068/1/144.9=
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  params=3D200/300/400/550 float=3Dy maxiter=3D647 periodicity=3D0
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frm:Carr2891{;Modified Sylvie Gallet frm. [101324,3444],1996
;passes=3D1 needs to be used with this PHC formula.
b5=3Dpixel-conj(0.1/pixel)-flip(0.01/pixel),
b3=3D|cos(conj(conj(pixel^30.5)))|
b4=3D(conj(conj(0.15/log(exp(conj(conj(pixel^450))-b3-0.4)-0.8))))+|flip(=
flip
(2*b5^4))|
c=3Dwhitesq*b4-(whitesq=3D=3D0)*b4
z=3Dwhitesq*b5-(whitesq=3D=3D0)*b5
c1=3D1.5*z,c2=3D2.25*z,c3=3D3.375*z,c4=3D5.0625*z,
l1=3Dreal(p1),l2=3Dimag(p1),l3=3Dreal(p2),l4=3Dimag(p2),
bailout=3D16,iter=3D0:
t1=3D(iter=3D=3Dl1),t2=3D(iter=3D=3Dl2),t3=3D(iter=3D=3Dl3),t4=3D(iter=3D=
=3Dl4),
t=3D1-(t1||t2||t3||t4),z=3Dz*t,c=3Dc*t+c1*t1+c2*t2+c3*t3+c4*t4,
z=3D(z*z)+(-0.7456,-0.132)+c/10-(0.0035/c/21)
iter=3Diter+1
|z|<=3Dbailout
}

frm:Carr2939{;Modified Sylvie Gallet frm. [101324,3444],1996
;passes=3D1 needs to be used with this PHC formula.
b5=3Dflip(flip(pixel/2))^5-conj(0.13/pixel)-flip(0.1/pixel)+0.3,
b4=3Dpixel^3-conj(0.13/pixel-cabs(0.1/pixel))
c=3Dwhitesq*conj(b4)-(whitesq=3D=3D0)*sqr(b4)
z=3Dwhitesq*sqr(b5)-(whitesq=3D=3D0)*conj(b5)
c1=3D1.5*z,c2=3D2.25*z,c3=3D3.375*z,c4=3D5.0625*z,
l1=3Dreal(p1),l2=3Dimag(p1),l3=3Dreal(p2),l4=3Dimag(p2),
bailout=3D16,iter=3D0:
t1=3D(iter=3D=3Dl1),t2=3D(iter=3D=3Dl2),t3=3D(iter=3D=3Dl3),t4=3D(iter=3D=
=3Dl4),
t=3D1-(t1||t2||t3||t4),z=3Dz*t,c=3Dc*t+c1*t1+c2*t2+c3*t3+c4*t4,
z=3D0.2*z^3+z^2+(-0.7656,-0.232)+c/10+c,
iter=3Diter+1
imag(flip(z))<=3Dbailout
}


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Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 22:00:03 -0500
From: "Damien M. Jones" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Fractal-Art '99 Contest: Drum Roll Please

Ladies and Gentlemen,

It is with great pleasure that I present to you the entries for the
Fractal-Art '99 Contest:

    http://www.fractalus.com/contest99/

(Click the big word "Entries" right at the top. :-)

This isn't actually absolutely everything, but I know you're all dying to
see what was entered, and I didn't want to make you wait any longer. So,
please note:

 - Animations are not posted yet.
 - You can fill in the voting form, but if you actually attempt to vote
   tonight you'll be asked to try again in a couple of days. Don't panic,
   the form will remember everything you've put into it if your browser
   has cookies enabled.
 - Downloadable versions of the site aren't available yet.
 - French and Spanish pages currently appear in English. (This is not the
   translators' fault; the text for those pages was written less than two
   hours ago, and they don't even have copies of it yet.)
 + Information on ordering the CD IS posted, although additional
   arrangements may yet be made.

Those of you who are curious about the size of the contest web site may
drink in these statistics:

 + 6 directories
 + 3,311 files
 + 91,192,087 bytes

I won't tally up the amount of time spent on this, mainly because I don't
remember. :-)

Damien M. Jones   \\
[e-mail]  \\  Fractalus Galleries & Info:
                    \\  http://www.fractalus.com/

Please do not post my e-mail address on a web site or
in a newsgroup.  Thank you.

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Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 00:54:52 -0400
From: Paul DeCelle <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractal-Art '99 Contest: Drum Roll Please

> Ladies and Gentlemen,
>
> It is with great pleasure that I present to you the entries for the
> Fractal-Art '99 Contest:
>
>     http://www.fractalus.com/contest99/


Outstanding!  After just a brief run through the thumbnails, I'm
impressed - and humbled :-) by the quality of the entries.  Voting's
going to be tough, but I'm up for it!

Regards,  Paul DeCelle

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Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 01:45:59 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractal-Art '99 Contest: Drum Roll Please

  Wonderful!!   It's going to be very difficult to vote. The entries are
terrific!   Thank you Damien....great job!
 Chris

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Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 02:26:19 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractal-Art '99 Contest: Drum Roll Please

I've just taken a preliminary stroll through the contest site...and I'm
stunned....it's been a trip through Wonderland!
Congratulations to the site and contest organizers and volunteers!!!
Congratulations to all of the entrants as well...it's going to be very hard
to vote!  It's a fascinating place..I only wish there were more comments!
....now how do we pop open the virtual bubbly to toast the Grand Opening?<G>

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Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 23:41:46 -0700
From: "Mike and Linda Allison" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractal-Art '99 Contest: Drum Roll Please

After looking at the thumbnails, I went back and downloaded about 30 of
the images.  I'm stunned!  They are so wonderful!  Everyone needs to see
the large images - if you only look at the thumbnails, you are cheating
yourself out of some great eye candy!

Thanks, Damien, Kerry, and everyone else!

Linda


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Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 03:17:07 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractal-Art '99 Contest: Drum Roll Please

In a message dated 99-09-16 02:43:31 EDT, you write:

<<  Everyone needs to see
 the large images - if you only look at the thumbnails, you are cheating
 yourself out of some great eye candy! >>

Oh! Without question..large large large is the way to go! These entries are
AMAZING!
Cannot wait to get my hands on the CD!

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Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 09:48:37 +0930
From: "Wayne Kiely" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) 2 Evolver PARS

Hi all.

Found these two using the evolver on a David Shanholtzer posting of Sep 15, 1999

wk990916a          { ; Wayne Kiely <[e-mail]>
                     ; Sep 16, 1999
                     ; t=  0:00:51.80 on PII 350 MMX at 1024x768
  reset=2000 type=formula formulafile=_b.frm
  formulaname=bubbleboth_jul passes=t center-mag=0/0/0.6666667
  params=-0.1010771507919554/0.7813266090884126/2500/0.75/1.5/0
  float=y maxiter=256 inside=0 decomp=256 periodicity=0
  cyclerange=0/255 sound=off
  colors=006H85E53<8>735626526417317<3>008W08<41>tgqthruisujtvkuwmw<25>`9B\
  `8A_68<3>W00000<37>000<4>000A20<4>YMFaPHfTK<3>yhW<3>paRn_PlZOjXNgVLeTK<2\
  >dSJcRJbRIaQIaPH<32>F63E53D52<2>B31A20B30<22>jXNlYOm_P<3>udTvfUxgVyhW<11\
  >LB7
  }

wk990916b          { ; Wayne Kiely <[e-mail]>
                     ; Sep 16, 1999
                     ; t=  0:01:17.34 on PII 350 MMX at 1024x768
  reset=2000 type=formula formulafile=_b.frm
  formulaname=bubbleboth_jul passes=t center-mag=0/0/0.6666667
  params=-0.8546096682638021/0.1020151066621911/2500/0.75/1.5/0
  float=y maxiter=256 inside=0 decomp=256 periodicity=0
  cyclerange=0/255 sound=off
  colors=006H85E53<8>735626526417317<3>008W08<41>tgqthruisujtvkuwmw<25>`9B\
  `8A_68<3>W00000<37>000<4>000A20<4>YMFaPHfTK<3>yhW<3>paRn_PlZOjXNgVLeTK<2\
  >dSJcRJbRIaQIaPH<32>F63E53D52<2>B31A20B30<22>jXNlYOm_P<3>udTvfUxgVyhW<11\
  >LB7
  }


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Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 20:42:12 +1200
From: "Morgan L. Owens" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Is it my sound card or...

At 13:05 15/09/1999 -0400, Sylvie wrote:
>
>  Me neither, but pressing a key just after you run the pars changes the
>sound (and produces the correct sound).  I have the same problem with
>music_1.
>

One of the problems I'm having is that I'm not sure which version you
intended - staccato or legato.

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Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 20:42:09 +1200
From: "Morgan L. Owens" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Is it my sound card or...

At 11:57 15/09/1999 -0400, Bill wrote:
>
>It is possible that Sylvie actually did those pars before the srelease
>parameter was around. I haven't noticed or duplicated your problem, but it
>sounds as if it *may* be related to the srelease. Have you tried a <b> on
>the offending file(s) to see if it writes the missing srelease in to the
>new par, and does that take care of the problem?
>
Just tried your suggestion: resaving the par does not write an srelease
when it wasn't there to start with - the result is identical up to line
length with the original.

>Hope you are enjoying the new sound features!
>
I am ... I'm not sure anyone else within earshot is :-)

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Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 11:10:12 +0200
From: Randall Britten <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) xfractint 310

Xfractint 310 runs if the X colour depth is 8 bits per plane (Linux: Redhat
6.0), Yay!

Some funnies:
- - I had to make sure that the image window had focus when pressing F keys
(e.g. F6) (otherwise wierd results, e.g. F1 being   "escape")
- - Ctrl+any alphabet key does not seem to work at all.
- - Resizing the graphic window and then proceeding to try and draw causes it
to crash ("Segmentation Fault")

Only the "ismand" demos in Frac200.par (using Frac200.frm) worked,
everything else said: "could not understand hertz=150" or some other number.
After a number of failed @ retries, the program crashes ("Segmentation
Fault").

Just a question: the DOS version is written totally for a text/svga screen
type environment.  Wouldn't it perhaps be simpler to port the dos version to
a Linux text/svga version ?

And anyway, shouldn't it be written as a Win32 app by now (there must be a
rich sponser who would pay the authors loads of money to put in the hundreds
of hours.  This thing has such potential.)?  The UI could then be designed
for a windowing environment, and then a port to X could use the same UI
design.  I don't really understand what the advantages of the DOS
environment are.

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Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 10:54:46 -0400
From: Bill Jemison <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Is it my sound card or...

Morgan,

Sylvie was entirely correct in her statement that the reason the srelease=

value wasn't included in the par is that it is at the default value. I ju=
st
double checked by resetting all the <F6> screen to default <F4> and writi=
ng
the par. Sure enough, none of the synth parameters were written in the pa=
r,
since they were all default.

Ie. the par not having reference to srelease is not the source of the
problem.

Bill

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Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 10:54:48 -0400
From: Bill Jemison <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) xfractint 310

Randal,

 << I don't really understand what the advantages of the DOS environment
are.

One REAL important advantage is that Dos was the *only* environment aroun=
d
for a great part of the Fractint development. <g>

Bill

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Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 09:59:22 -0600
From: Phil McRevis <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) xfractint 310

In article <[e-mail]>,
    Randall Britten <[e-mail]>  writes:

> - I had to make sure that the image window had focus when pressing F keys
> (e.g. F6) (otherwise wierd results, e.g. F1 being   "escape")

We (fractint development team) are working on improving the fractint
infrastructure for non-DOS environments in general and this should
improve in the next release or two.

> - Ctrl+any alphabet key does not seem to work at all.

Odd, that *should* work fine.

> - Resizing the graphic window and then proceeding to try and draw causes it
> to crash ("Segmentation Fault")

Resizing the graphic window doesn't achieve anything useful anyway.
xfractint still thinks its 'windows' is the entire screen.

> Only the "ismand" demos in Frac200.par (using Frac200.frm) worked,
> everything else said: "could not understand hertz=150" or some other number.
> After a number of failed @ retries, the program crashes ("Segmentation
> Fault").

Not sure about that, I haven't tried the new version of xfractint.

> Just a question: the DOS version is written totally for a text/svga screen
> type environment.  Wouldn't it perhaps be simpler to port the dos version to
> a Linux text/svga version ?

No, we're moving towards something that assumes less about the
environment to where xfractint should look and behave more like a
regular X app.

> And anyway, shouldn't it be written as a Win32 app by now (there must be a
> rich sponser who would pay the authors loads of money to put in the hundreds
> of hours.  This thing has such potential.)?  The UI could then be designed
> for a windowing environment, and then a port to X could use the same UI
> design.  I don't really understand what the advantages of the DOS
> environment are.

There is no rich sponsor, unless you consider me the Rich sponsor ;-).
I am the one that got sick of the status quo and decided to make the
major changes to the code base necessary to begin migrating fractint
towards a more modern GUI under windowed environments.  (It might even
end up improving the GUI under DOS.)
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Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 12:42:04 -0400
From: "Morgen Bell" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractal-Art '99 Contest: Drum Roll Please

Enormous thanks to Damien and everyone who has worked so hard on the
contest...it looks spectacular!
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Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 14:28:36 -0400
From: Sylvie Gallet <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) New galleries

Hi David,

>> A really magnificient site.

  Thank you, David!

  Regards,

        - Sylvie

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Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 13:07:44 -0700
From: "Bruce Nepple" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Discontinuity in Mandelbrot Coloring

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I'm running fractint 20.0.

I've included and attached a .par file (since I don't know which will work
better) from a stock mandelbrot.  Notice that there is a discontinuity in the
center (a circle) where iterations cross over 32767.  Is this a "bug"?  It looks
interesting, but I'm surprised to see such a thing.

The color "aliasing" makes for a neat spiral though.  In the old old version
that I first used to make this pattern, max iterations was 32767, and there
was an "inner color" circle at the same spot as the discontinuity.  If you have
the time, set max iterations to 32767 and try it.  It has an interesting effect
when you color cycle.

I suppose that with deep zoom and floating point, these "color aliasing"
spirals are old hat now, but I thought it was pretty cool when I first discovered
it (1992).

bruce

Bruces Spiral      { ; Color Cycle at your favorite speed/direction
                     ; Note the discontinuity where iterations cross 32767
                     ; (the center circle)
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  center-mag=+0.25161897010117430/-0.498440366006514\
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Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 00:42:14 +0200 (MET DST)
From: Lionel Poeffel <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Does Soundblaster work?

Hello out there!

First of all, I gotta say that the evolver feature
of v.20 ist REAL great! However there's something which
makes me worry.

I'm running DOS-Fractint under the Win95-Surface.
(P133, Soundblaster AWE)
Unfortunately, Fractint produces no Sound-Output
neither on the PC-speaker (which is probably due to
the buggy speaker) nor on the Soundcard which elswhere
works great. Is Fractint designed for Soundblaster and
cards of that kind at all, or should this be regarded
as a bug?

Thanks,

Lionel.

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Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 18:43:38 -0600
From: "Tim Wegner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Makefcfg and DPMI

The makefcfg program was compiled with the djgpp compiler, and
requires that DPMI memory services be available. If not, there is a
cryptic error message. Believe it or not, some users run Fractint in
a bare DOS environment with no memory management.

I've forgotten what little I ever knew about this topic. Can someone
help me out with a simple config.sys that works under DOS 6.22
and provides DPMI?

Alternatively, there is a freeware DPMI server that is available at the
djgpp web site. If anyone can give directions for how to use that, I'd
also appreciate it.

Alternatively, we need to port makefcfg.c to an environment that
doesn't need DPMI. The source code makes explicit calls to DPMI.

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Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 22:48:01 -0400
From: Lee Skinner <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) xfractint 310

Randal,

 << I don't really understand what the advantages of the DOS environment
are.

One advantage is speed - it runs faster under DOS than in Windows.

Lee

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Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 22:00:21 -0500
From: "Damien M. Jones" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) xfractint 310

Lee,

 - One advantage is speed - it runs faster under DOS than in Windows.

That's funny, I never really found that much difference. When I measured
it, it was a matter of perhaps 3%. If you're seeing a bigger difference
than that, it's probably not that FractInt is running in a DOS box inside
Windows, but that you've got other things running in Windows that are
eating lots of CPU time.

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Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 00:21:58 -0400
From: Lee Skinner <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) xfractint 310

Damien,

>> - One advantage is speed - it runs faster under DOS than in Windows. <=
<

>>That's funny, I never really found that much difference. When I measure=
d
it, it was a matter of perhaps 3%. <<

So you agree!<g>  Even that 3% can add up substantially over time when yo=
ur
machine generates fractals over 20 hrs per day (a bonus 3 hrs in 5 days).=

I'm not recommending DOS over Windows for anyone - Randall just asked for=

an advantage and I gave him one.  OTOH, you'll definately need to run
Fractint under Windows to get the beautiful new sound features.

Lee

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Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 00:21:57 -0400
From: Lee Skinner <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Discontinuity

Bruce,

>> I'm running fractint 20.0.

I've included and attached a .par file (since I don't know which will wor=
k
better) from a stock mandelbrot.  Notice that there is a discontinuity in=

the center (a circle) where iterations cross over 32767.  Is this a "bug"=
? =

It looks interesting, but I'm surprised to see such a thing. <<

>>  reset=3D1720 type=3Dmandel <<

You are running Fractint 20.0, but are asking it to act like Fractint 17.=
2,
which was in fashion many years ago.  It had this discontinuity bug, and
this par will perpetuate that bug (and maybe other old bugs!)  until you
change reset=3D1720 to reset=3D2000.

Lee

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Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 11:35 0000
From: [e-mail]
Subject: RE: (fractint) Does Soundblaster work?

Hi Lionel,

> Is Fractint designed for Soundblaster and
>cards of that kind at all, or should this be regarded
>as a bug?


 I wrote the sound drivers from the original Soundblaster card
documentation so an AWE32 should work as long as it's backward
compatible with the old card as regards the FM synth. I haven't tested
it on an AWE32 myself but believe it should work.... can anyone verify
this?

You could try checking the sound mixer control in windows,  try
turning up all the controls and if you're using the windows standard
mixer  then make sure you've checked out the mixer properties and have
all possible controls enabled.

Hope this helps,
                       Robin.


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Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 15:34:27 +0200
From: "Jean-Pierre Louvet" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Contest 99 French mirror

Hi all,

The French mirror of the contest is updated. European visitors are invited
to use it to avoid an overload of the US site at fractalus.com.
If you experience any problem send me a mail (don't disturb Damien who has
made a huge work -more than 3000 files!-). I have had no time to verify all
the mirror site.

http://www.cribx1.u-bordeaux.fr/contest99/

Enjoy ! It is a very great site.
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