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fractint-digest      Wednesday, September 2 1998      Volume 01 : Number 286




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Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 01:48:16 +0200
From: "Dean-Christian Strik" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Re:(fractint) Fractal risks?

>A certain section of a
>variation of the mandlebrot that I was looking at even contained what
>looked to me an almost exact replica of 'The Scream', with some false
>colors.  It was weird, but not offensive.


Munch's 'The Scream' I suppose? If you know where it is, could you post that?
Or send it to me personally? I have always had something with, let's say,
nature's or maths' productions looking a lot like famous art-works.

[If you don't know where it's at, don't waste your time :)]

Christian

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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 19:01:36 -0500
From: "Damien M. Jones" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: killing JavaScript

Christian,

I have noticed that while GeoCities puts those policies in place, and they
COULD enforce them easily, they often do not seem to care unless someone
complains.  For example, my old GeoCities address
(http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Lofts/2605/) has had a forwarding page for
*months*, ever since I moved my gallery to my own server.  It's still
there.  Back when GeoCities had more limited resources, I think they
applied the rules more strictly, but they now have so much bloat I don't
think they really care.  I'm not saying you SHOULD abuse their policy,
merely indicating they probably won't do anything if you DO abuse it.

BTW, GeoCities' easy-upload facility works great with IE4.  I've pointed
this out to them several times, and they did eventually update their file
manager page to indicate IE4 supports uploads.

One more tip: if you follow my suggestion for disabling JavaScript while
visiting GeoCities, and want to disable JavaScript at Tripod as well (gets
rid of those popups!) then the URL is http://members.tripod.com (not
www.tripod.com).

Damien M. Jones   \\
[e-mail]  \\  Fractalus Galleries & Info:
                    \\  http://www.fractalus.com/

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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 18:17:28 -0700
From: "Angela Wilczynski" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Best Wishes to Albert

I was going to say pretty much the same thing to Albert....and to note
that I'm discovering that there are many benefits to getting older if we
just look for them.  Wish I had the health of youth, though......but I'm
not sure I'd trade it for current wisdom/experience.

Speaking of wisdom, I always get a chuckle out of those who can
conveniently foist off their tiresome little minds onto someone else.
THEY see "something" offensive and it is someone else's fault......tidy,
I call that....all the fun of being dirty without needing to examine
your own thoughts/perversions.

I think it would be darn hard to bring in a conviction for an offensive
fractal.  So let's keep fractaling and join in a brotherhood....cross
our hearts and hope to die......which will rescue Jay and Dr. J from any
nasty Fractal Gestapo (distinguishable by their boring uniforms and
tight ass*s, not to mention pin heads.)

Angele aka wizzle

p.s. are we to hear any stories of the dreaded fractal-market crash of
1998???

Jason Hine wrote:
>
> >I am 71 and am really starting to enjoy life.  Keep up the good
> >work.      Albert
>
> You are blessed, sir!  Thanks for writing!
>
> Jason Hine
>

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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 18:19:24 -0700
From: kathy roth <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Fractal Risks

>looked to me an almost exact replica of 'The Scream'

Yes, send in "The Scream"!


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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 18:27:20 -0700
From: "Angela Wilczynski" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractal Risks

kathy roth wrote:
>
> >looked to me an almost exact replica of 'The Scream'
>
> Yes, send in "The Scream"!

which brings up a notion for a category for the next great fractal
contest.......fractal most like a great art work

wiz

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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 21:38:42 -0400
From: "Peter Gavin" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (fractint) Re: killing JavaScript

//  One more tip: if you follow my suggestion for disabling JavaScript while
//  visiting GeoCities, and want to disable JavaScript at Tripod as
//  well (gets
//  rid of those popups!) then the URL is http://members.tripod.com (not
//  www.tripod.com).
//
//  Damien M. Jones   \\
//  [e-mail]  \\  Fractalus Galleries & Info:
//                      \\  http://www.fractalus.com/

I thought one interesting thing about the restricted sites feature for IE4
is that if you use something like *.tripod.com you restrict www.tripod.com
and members.tripod.com.  This is a good strategy, but normally, I turn off
JScript and ActiveX and Java applets for the internet zone, then use the
trusted sites zone for sites I visit frequently and trust not to do annoying
stuff, like *.zdnet.com and such.  Actually, if you think about it, the
trusted sites zone and the restricted sites zone are identical, other than
their default security settings, and the sites you add to their lists.


Peter Gavin
<[e-mail]>
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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 20:40:06 -0700
From: kathy roth <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Fractal Risks

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> > Yes, send in "The Scream"!
>
> which brings up a notion for a category for the next great fractal
> contest.......fractal most like a great art work
>
> wiz
>
Well I don't think anyone can beat Kerry mitchell's
Mona Lisa.

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Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1998 15:44:22 +1200
From: "Morgan L. Owens" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractal risks? and new ways of perceiving Fractals

At 09:57 31/08/98 -0400, Kragen wrote:
>On Mon, 31 Aug 1998, Morgan L. Owens wrote:
>> [My short story would have ended] up looking derivative.
>>
Probably the most offensive thing about it had been its working title.

>> But as well as "seeing" stuff in a fractal, I
>> took on the fact that our eyes are by far the widest-bandwidth channel
>> for getting information into the brain ... something like 150Gb/s raw
>> data rate -
>
>I did a back-of-the-envelope calculation using the assumption that the
>whole eye had resolution equivalent to the fovea's, and came up with a
>rough guess of 10Gb/s.
>
I may have botched my calculations - how did you figure yours? I remember
assuming the human eye can distinguish about ten million colours, and I
also assumed the whole retina had foveal resolution (though I forget now
just what that is). I also assumed that the retinas didn't do any of the
extensive preprocessing they do before sending the results down the optic
nerve. Then I doubled it for two eyes.

You can probably guess that I did this calculation a long time ago and only
remembered the result!

>
>Our skin might be another matter entirely -- its time resolution is
>decent, perhaps 100-200Hz, much better than that of our eyes (you can
>tap rhythm accurately by touch and kinesthetic sensation), it's pretty
>big (several square yards, or several thousand square inches), has good
>spatial resolution in a few places, but generally not, and has fairly
>good sampling depth (six bits at least, with several channels).  So it
>may be that our skin has a gigabit or two of bandwidth.
>
Cor, hadn't thought of this one.

>Taste is probably not a high-bandwidth sense.
>
No, I wouldn't think so either. Once you specified the relative strengths
of the four taste categories (sour, sweet, etc.) the fine-tuning that
allows you to distinguish, say, coffee from decaf, is handled by the nose
and volatiles slipping into it via the throat. The other channels involved
would be temperature and texture (which also involve the palate).

And what about the other senses humans possess? How fine-grained is our
sense of direction, for example? Balance? Proprioception? Kinaesthesia?
Some of those would have very few channels, and inaccurate ones at that,
with shoddy time resolution, so the question for those is, for example,
what is the smallest amount/rate of rotation can a rotating person perceive?

Cor, sit a person in one of those round cages and spin him around to a
fractal rhythm. Whee!

Morgan



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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 22:12:40 -0700 (MST)
From: Kerry Mitchell <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractal Risks

On Mon, 31 Aug 1998, kathy roth wrote:

> > > Yes, send in "The Scream"!
> >
> > which brings up a notion for a category for the next great fractal
> > contest.......fractal most like a great art work
> >
> > wiz
> >
> Well I don't think anyone can beat Kerry mitchell's
> Mona Lisa.
>
Thanks for the nod!  I'm glad someone likes it.

Kerry

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Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1998 15:49:45 +1200
From: "Morgan L. Owens" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractal risks?

At 17:50 31/08/98 +0200, JB wrote:
>Hi,
>I find this to be nearly unbelievable! Could anyone please tell me /how/
>anybody could be offended by an image of a fractal??
>Unless you are looking for or making some kind of weird fractal that
>looks like something from a regular pr0n site...(difficult but
>possible).
>
Well, I won't repost it but a few months ago I deliberately tried to
produce such a fractal - a feasibility study if you will - in response to a
thread at the time. I think I succeeded...

Morgan


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Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 01:48:16 +0200
From: "Dean-Christian Strik" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Re:(fractint) Fractal risks?

>A certain section of a
>variation of the mandlebrot that I was looking at even contained what
>looked to me an almost exact replica of 'The Scream', with some false
>colors.  It was weird, but not offensive.


Munch's 'The Scream' I suppose? If you know where it is, could you post that?
Or send it to me personally? I have always had something with, let's say,
nature's or maths' productions looking a lot like famous art-works.

[If you don't know where it's at, don't waste your time :)]

Christian

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Date: 01 Sep 98 11:27:38 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Wim de Lange)
Subject: (fractint) fractals in postscript

Maybe not the correct list, but at the moment, I have no better idea.

Some years ago there was an article in the Byte about postscript. And
in this article there was an postscript program to calculate the
mandelbrot set. Is there someone who has this article and/or the
postscript program for this. I've now an postscript printer
available, and I want to test this on the printer.

Groetjes,
    Wim de Lange
 _____________________________________

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 CompuServe:  100142,604
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Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 13:46:16 +0200
From: "Dean-Christian Strik" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: killing JavaScript

Damien wrote:

>Christian,
>
>I have noticed that while GeoCities puts those policies in place, and they
>COULD enforce them easily, they often do not seem to care unless someone
>complains.  For example, my old GeoCities address
>(http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Lofts/2605/) has had a forwarding page for
>*months*, ever since I moved my gallery to my own server.  It's still
>there.  Back when GeoCities had more limited resources, I think they
>applied the rules more strictly, but they now have so much bloat I don't
>think they really care.  I'm not saying you SHOULD abuse their policy,
>merely indicating they probably won't do anything if you DO abuse it.


I know ! ;)

>BTW, GeoCities' easy-upload facility works great with IE4.  I've pointed
>this out to them several times, and they did eventually update their file
>manager page to indicate IE4 supports uploads.

It *says* it also works with Netscape 2(!)+, but I don't know whether that
works great, too. I actually have never used geocities *without* IE40 and NS
4.0x, so I don't know what's it like using the other way.


>One more tip: if you follow my suggestion for disabling JavaScript while
>visiting GeoCities, and want to disable JavaScript at Tripod as well (gets
>rid of those popups!) then the URL is http://members.tripod.com (not
>www.tripod.com).


I actually had tripod, geocities, fortunecity etc. already disabled before
your howto-posting. (okay, just by a day or two).

Christian




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Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 13:14:24 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time)
From: "Nigel H. J. Long" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) fractals in postscript

Wim,

I work in a UK academic library, with a set of Byte. If you
can narrow the date down a bit I am happy to search for the
article and send you a copy.

Nigel Long
University of Southampton Libraries.
[e-mail]

On 01 Sep 98 11:27:38 GMT Wim de Lange
<[e-mail]> wrote:

> Maybe not the correct list, but at the moment, I have no better idea.
>
> Some years ago there was an article in the Byte about postscript. And
> in this article there was an postscript program to calculate the
> mandelbrot set. Is there someone who has this article and/or the
> postscript program for this. I've now an postscript printer
> available, and I want to test this on the printer.
>
> Groetjes,
>     Wim de Lange
>  _____________________________________



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Date: 01 Sep 98 15:12:19 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Wim de Lange)
Subject: Re: (fractint) fractals in postscript

Op  1 Sep 98 om 13:14 schreef [e-mail] over:
"Re: (fractint) fractals in postscri"

> I work in a UK academic library, with a set of Byte. If you
> can narrow the date down a bit I am happy to search for the
> article and send you a copy.

Difficult. It was probably more then 10 years ago.


Groetjes,
    Wim de Lange
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Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 15:51:54 +0100
From: Dave <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Video Modes

I've posted this one before, but then lost my subscription and probably
missed all the replies....

Can anyone tell me how I can determine any of the ax, bx, cx, dx values
for a video card?

I've used a utility which generated a list of (unheaded) values for a
VESA card and had some success but the nature of them still mistifies
me.

Basically, I'm trying to get a better display out of my Virge (non-dx)
card, but suggested values which have worked on S3Trio and Diamond cards
have failed on mine.

help!!!


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Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 08:40:13 -0700
From: "Mike and Linda Allison" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractal risks?

Hi, all!

>Is it possible that some people might be offended
>by our fractals and fractal art?  I have a mathematician
>friend who thinks fractals are ugly. There might even
>be someone who might be offended (or concerned) by
>my Dr. J stories. Is this likely? Without mentioning
>names, but there have been discussions here of how
>some fractals were considered by some to be offensive...


I uploaded a fractal that I called "Alien Woman" to AOL's
libraries a couple of years ago.  It was definitely female.
It sort of resembled Xena in full battle dress.
They accepted the upload, but changed the name to
"Alien Face."  It doesn't look anything like a face, but
I suppose they were concerned that someone would
be offended.

I might have agreed with them if "she" wasn't dressed . . .

Linda


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Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 20:01:42 +0200
From: "Kim Bach Petersen" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Sv: (fractint) Fractal risks?

Hi,

>Just a thought in the middle of the night...  If ink
>blots could bring out some of the most inner
>feelings and abnormalities in 'marginal' people,
>what about fractals? I see all kinds of 'interesting'
>things in fractals. So I'm sure some of my friends and
>co-workers could also. What if one of the 'marginals'
>at the office see something more than I see?


It's a rather old fact, that the beauty is in the eye of the beholder. A
variation of this facts is, that  the comments from an observer says at
least as much about the observer as the observed. This becomes even truer as
the observed does not look like something. In psychology this is called
projection since one porjects one's own thoughts and ideas on something that
in itself is rather neutral.

The Rorschach ink-blot test is devised with this in mind. Using 10 pictures
with no particular motive, clients are given an excuse to project their
thought so that the psychologist can investigate these thoughts. These
projections can for example be used to diagnose mental illness 2-3 years
before a diagnosable change of behavior sets in!

To help the interpretation, a list of standard answer have been made. This
makes it possible to determine how good or strange an answer is. Some
ink-blots tend to look like something and many people see the same. Others
come up with rather idiosyncrate and strange answers, but one cannot validly
jugde an answer as strange without a list of standard answers from a large
population.

In my opinion, this must also be true when it comes to fractals. While some
images tend to look like a actual thing, many don't: If an fractal image
seems "offensive", it's most likely to fall back on the judge of taste
himself. We know that, be he cannot and will not see that: The image
justifies him in feeling offended, it's the images fault! Still, only a
statistical consensus can determine that...

Watch what you say :-),
Kim




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Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 20:47:51 +0100
From: "Geoff Stanton" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractal risks?

>
> I uploaded a fractal that I called "Alien Woman" to AOL's
> libraries a couple of years ago.  It was definitely female.
> It sort of resembled Xena in full battle dress.
> They accepted the upload, but changed the name to
> "Alien Face."  It doesn't look anything like a face, but
> I suppose they were concerned that someone would
> be offended.
>
> I might have agreed with them if "she" wasn't dressed . . .
>
> Linda
>
Do I take it from this that the word "Woman" is non-pc
It's a strange world.
Bye
Geoff

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Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1998 15:50:51 -0400
From: "Blake Hyde" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractal risks? and new ways of perceiving  Fractals

At 03:44 PM 9/1/1998 +1200, you wrote:
>At 09:57 31/08/98 -0400, Kragen wrote:
>>On Mon, 31 Aug 1998, Morgan L. Owens wrote:
>>> [My short story would have ended] up looking derivative.
>>>
>Probably the most offensive thing about it had been its working title.
>
>>> But as well as "seeing" stuff in a fractal, I
>>> took on the fact that our eyes are by far the widest-bandwidth channel
>>> for getting information into the brain ... something like 150Gb/s raw
>>> data rate -
>>
>>I did a back-of-the-envelope calculation using the assumption that the
>>whole eye had resolution equivalent to the fovea's, and came up with a
>>rough guess of 10Gb/s.
>>
>I may have botched my calculations - how did you figure yours? I remember
>assuming the human eye can distinguish about ten million colours, and I
>also assumed the whole retina had foveal resolution (though I forget now
>just what that is). I also assumed that the retinas didn't do any of the
>extensive preprocessing they do before sending the results down the optic
>nerve. Then I doubled it for two eyes.

The human eye can see 16.7 million colors--they're TrueColor with 10GBs of
video memory.  >8)

 Blake Hyde (ROT13: [e-mail])
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Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 17:50:00 -0400
From: Sylvie Gallet <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) New Fractal Of The Week

Hi All,

  As every Tuesday, I've uploaded a new Fractal Of The Week to my home
page:

   <http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Sylvie_Gallet/homepage.htm>

  I've also created a new gallery that features all the FOTW for July and=

August.  This new page has links to my pages at CompuServe but I haven't
updated the old pages yet and you will have to use the following URL:

  <http://members.aol.com/gallets/index.htm>

  Enjoy!

        - Sylvie

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Date: Tue,  1 Sep 98 23:48:56
From: [e-mail] (Dr I D Entwistle)
Subject: Re: (fractint) fractals in postscript

On  1 Sep 98 (11:27:38), [e-mail] wrote:
> Maybe not the correct list, but at the moment, I have no better idea.
>
> Some years ago there was an article in the Byte about postscript. And
> in this article there was an postscript program to calculate the
> mandelbrot set. Is there someone who has this article and/or the
> postscript program for this. I've now an postscript printer  available,
> and I want to test this on the printer.
>
> Groetjes,
>     Wim de Lange
Dear Groetes
            An Article entitled First-Class Postscript by Julian Dow, Dept. of
Cell Biology,University of Glasgow (UK) appeared in the British computer
journal Personal Computer World in May 1988(pp 148-155). This contains a
postscript listing to generate the M set using an Apple Laser writer written in
Postscript programming language . If you are unable to access this I could
forward a copy of the page ( the article covers other listings) by snail mail
for the cost of getting the copy made and mailing it.
 Ian Entwistle
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Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 20:26:04 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (fractint) Video Modes

Isn't the whole idea of having to set parameters based on one's "video card" a
trapping of the late 80's?   Why aren't images in Fractint simply  what they
are? Do the top-notch computerophiles & mathemeticians on this list actually
have 1979 PC's with only a 256 color card??

[e-mail] writes:
> Can anyone tell me how I can determine any of the ax, bx, cx, dx values
>  for a video card?
>  I've used a utility which generated a list of (unheaded) values for a
>  VESA card and had some success but the nature of them still mistifies
>  me.


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Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 10:28:50 +1000
From: "Regina & Steve" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractal risks?

If we want to be really picky, everything in the world has a sexual
meaning - it is a requirement for the continuation of a species. Flowers
after all are the reproductive organs of the plant, that is flowers ARE sex.
There probably is no way
of making something non-sexual - it is personal objective, sometimes good
sometimes bad. Many artists paint the not-so-obvious-sexual (eg landscapes)
and many the obvious-sexual (you know what I mean). But what do many big
upright
trees really mean to the person painting a landscape, do two naked bodies
together represent sex or the fabulous "artwork" of nature.
I think all fractal images are sexual in nature, but they do not necessarily
represent a "sexual image" of a person or their thoughts. (Perhaps it is the
equation communicating with us -think what you will)

What is important is the moral standing of artwork in society. Good vs Evil
and what we want our kids to see and know. This is everchanging, hopefully
for the better. So we are at the whims of the government censoring body
- - but that doesn't stop us from making fractals or other forms of art.

I often feel disgusted rather than offended at specific art - but that is
freedom of thought and do we really want someone to control it.


- -----Original Message-----
From: Kerry Mitchell <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
Date: Tuesday, 1 September 1998 2:39
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractal risks?

>I had one <snip>characterized as "evil", <snip>other images described as
"sexual"
>or "erotic".  My dad, who was a "real" artist and taught in public
>schools, had one of his pieces rejected for public display<snip>
>I've heard that many of Georgia O'Keefe's flower paintings "look" sexual.
<snip>


- - Looking into a fractal is like looking into the soul.
- - the deeper you look, the more complex the structure

- - We sleep 1/3 of our lives. Choose wisely.
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Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 08:32:28 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time)
From: "Nigel H. J. Long" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractal risks?

I am following this thread with more than usual interest as
it seems to be sparking the kind of thoughts that have been
churning around in my mind of late. I ask myself; WHY do I
like the images that I choose to keep? WHY do I dismiss the
others? WHY can I make a judgement in a split second, and
find that judgement holds good even if I review it at
leisure later?

A colleague (in the Psychology dept of this
university) suggested that my choices reflect a desire to
force a rational and 'comfortable' interpretation on what I
see. I keep more with '3D' colour maps, and simple, curved,
shapes because I can provide an analogue from nature or
experience, which makes the image safe and comfortable.
Other, more abstract, images have no easy solution and
make me step back from them.

(Many) years ago I showed some of the (very) primitive
images I generated on an old Acorn 48K computer to a group
of school children aged 7-8. One of the first things they
seemed to want to do was work out what the pictures
- -represented-. They asked "what is it a picture OF?" Once
they got the message that it did not represent anything
'real' they immediately began to invent things from their
experience that it could be - just as the orginator of this
thread has found; although thankfully they did not think of
any 'dirty' meanings.

Incidentally the commonest interpretation was that the
pictures were from the story 'Jack and the beanstalk' -
remember those infinite columns that surround the
mandelbrot set in 16 colours? Nowadays that story is banned
in most schools as being totally non-PC - Giants are a
minority group; Jack is of an identifiable gender; Jack
destroys a rare plant; etc etc. So perhaps fractals ARE
risky after all!

Does anybody know of any good books / journal
articles that discuss fractals in a psychological context?
If so I would be more than interested to hear from you. I
would like to compile a bibliography on the subject.

ps - apologies for any wierd typos in this email - I am
having a war with this *?#@+ mailer........and losing.
- ----------------------
Nigel H. J. Long
University of Southampton Libraries
[e-mail]


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Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 03:33:55 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (fractint) 1 par(Risky?)

    Oh Heavenly fractals!<g>  Perceive what you will.....no offense intended.

  Enjoy~

 Jim

 members.aol.com/JimBeau549/jim3.htm
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Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 04:48:09 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (fractint) 8 pars(Mndlbrot&TKoller)

   Just having a little fun with the first 6 pars.  The last 2 have
sg_map02.map and are quite strange, but nice to look at.  Enjoy~

  Jim
~~~~~~~~
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