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fractint-digest        Monday, August 24 1998        Volume 01 : Number 279




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Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 17:48:55 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) version 20

Bud writes,

> I don't want to be a nudge, but when is v20 coming out?  I have
>  been looking forward to working with the evolver and "formula"
>  type Mandelbrot/Julia spacebar toggle features (among others),
>  and the contest has reminded me of their absence.  In lieu of
>  a full release, is a compiled version of the current development
>  code available somewhere?

How do you know what is in the pipeline for the next version of Fractint?  I
know of the Fractint wishlist, but is there another page of what is actually
planned by the programmers?

Thanks,

Luke

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http://members.xoom.com/lukeplant/


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Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 17:48:55 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) version 20

Bud writes,

> I don't want to be a nudge, but when is v20 coming out?  I have
>  been looking forward to working with the evolver and "formula"
>  type Mandelbrot/Julia spacebar toggle features (among others),
>  and the contest has reminded me of their absence.  In lieu of
>  a full release, is a compiled version of the current development
>  code available somewhere?

How do you know what is in the pipeline for the next version of Fractint?  I
know of the Fractint wishlist, but is there another page of what is actually
planned by the programmers?

Thanks,

Luke

[e-mail]
Fractal gallery, 'z squared plus c':
http://members.xoom.com/lukeplant/


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Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 15:26:49 -0700
From: Mark Christenson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) version 20

At 05:48 PM 8/22/98 EDT, Luke wrote:
>Bud writes,
>
>> I don't want to be a nudge, but when is v20 coming out?  I have
>>  been looking forward to working with the evolver and "formula"
>>  type Mandelbrot/Julia spacebar toggle features (among others),
>>  and the contest has reminded me of their absence.  In lieu of
>>  a full release, is a compiled version of the current development
>>  code available somewhere?
>
>How do you know what is in the pipeline for the next version of Fractint?  I
>know of the Fractint wishlist, but is there another page of what is actually
>planned by the programmers?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Luke

The evolver was revealed by one of the developers, and
the toggle for formula types was something I "suggested"
after it had already been planned.  Both issues were
discussed on this list a while back.


Bud


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Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 21:54:03 -0400
From: Paul DeCelle <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) version 20

Mark Christenson wrote:
>
> I don't want to be a nudge, but when is v20 coming out?  I have
> been looking forward to working with the evolver and "formula"
> type Mandelbrot/Julia spacebar toggle features (among others),
> and the contest has reminded me of their absence.  In lieu of
> a full release, is a compiled version of the current development
> code available somewhere?
>
> Thanks, Bud
>

This may have already been thoroughly discussed, but will Fractint V20
be Win95/98 compatable?  I would love to be able to take advantage of
multi-tasking and generate images while at the same time run other
applications.  I've just recently downloaded Ultra-Fractal, but haven't
done much with it, yet.  Guess I'm in my comfort zone with Fractint,
even with the disadvantage of running from DOS.

Gotta go - I'm up at 5:00 AM to go after the wiley walleye and magical
muskie on Lake St Clair (Detroit) tomorrow..  Best muskie fishing lake
in North America...

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Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 22:42:10 -0400
From: "Turner Rentz" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Running FRACTINT in WIN95

cool! :-) hope the users connected to the server didn't get floored.

- -----Original Message-----
From: Fliguer, Miguel <[e-mail]>
To: '[e-mail]' <[e-mail]>
Date: Tuesday, August 18, 1998 4:09 AM
Subject: RE: (fractint) Running FRACTINT in WIN95


>> Dean-Christian Strik[SMTP:[e-mail]] boldly wrote :
>>
> >>>I'm afraid he never did - at any res > 360x480. WinNT doesn't
>support dos VESA
> >>>modes.
>
>I read aloud your statement in front of my 640x480 Fractint screen (on a
>Vectra w/ WNT 4.0),
>and it's still working...
>
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Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 23:59:05 -0400 (EDT)
From: [e-mail] (Kragen)
Subject: Re: (fractint) Running FRACTINT in WIN95

On Sat, 22 Aug 1998, Turner Rentz wrote:
> >> Dean-Christian Strik[SMTP:[e-mail]] boldly wrote :
> >>
> > >>>I'm afraid he never did - at any res > 360x480. WinNT doesn't
> >support dos VESA
> > >>>modes.
> >
> >I read aloud your statement in front of my 640x480 Fractint screen (on a
> >Vectra w/ WNT 4.0),
> >and it's still working...

640x480x16 is standard VGA.  Dunno about 640x480x256, which is what I
assume you're using...

Kragen

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Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 13:09:51 +0200
From: "Dean-Christian Strik" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) version 20

>This may have already been thoroughly discussed, but will Fractint V20
>be Win95/98 compatable?  I would love to be able to take advantage of
>multi-tasking and generate images while at the same time run other
>applications.  I've just recently downloaded Ultra-Fractal, but haven't
>done much with it, yet.  Guess I'm in my comfort zone with Fractint,
>even with the disadvantage of running from DOS.

No, it won't. You can use winfract though (you can get it at spanky) instead.
But this isn't completely up to date with the DOS version.

Christian




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Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 13:15:10 +0200
From: "Dean-Christian Strik" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Running FRACTINT in WIN95

Kragen wrote:

>On Sat, 22 Aug 1998, Turner Rentz wrote:
>> >> Dean-Christian Strik[SMTP:[e-mail]] boldly wrote :
>> >>
>> > >>>I'm afraid he never did - at any res > 360x480. WinNT doesn't
>> >support dos VESA
>> > >>>modes.
>> >
>> >I read aloud your statement in front of my 640x480 Fractint screen (on a
>> >Vectra w/ WNT 4.0),
>> >and it's still working...
>
>640x480x16 is standard VGA.  Dunno about 640x480x256, which is what I
>assume you're using...


Miguel wrote the maximum he could get is SF5, which is 640x480x256. According
to fractint, this SF5 mode is one of the 'VESA Autodetect (works with most
SVGA)' modes.

Christian




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Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 13:55:42 +0200
From: "Hans Bomers" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) web page

Faye,

I have been to your homepage, and liked it very much.
There are some nice links, and the fractals are good too; especially in the
tierazon-gallery.
The whole site is a bit dark though, so it looks kinda sad :-(
Besides that, the sit is OK.

Cubic

- -----Original Message-----
From: Faye Williams <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
Date: donderdag 20 augustus 1998 19:42
Subject: (fractint) web page


>I finally have a web page.  Please visit and let me know what you think.
>Comments good or bad - are welcome.
>
>http://www.sb.net/arkangel/
>
>Faye
>
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Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 08:32:49 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) webpage addition

  My page is extremely basic. Mainly because I'm HTML illiterate. :(
However,....I had a very nice surprise here at AOL last night and I've added
them to my page for anyone interested. This is the 1st time that 2 of my
images have been picked in the same week! :)  The fractals are named *Kirlian
Fractal* (Jm04n007) and *Y2K* (Jm307nv1)   Enjoy~
http://members.aol.com/JimBeau549/index.html

Jim


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Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 10:28:57 -0500
From: "Paul N. Lee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) New member of this lists.

Hans Bomers wrote:
>
> Mainly because Dean-Christian Strik (which i know very well)
> told me this list was quite interesting, I became a member too.
> Don't expect too mmany messages from me; I will first observe the
> conversation(s) for a while.
>

Welcome!!

If you wish to review some of the past postings to this list, try the
following URL which contains the archive:

    ftp://ftp.xmission.com/pub/lists/fractint/archive/

P.N.L.
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Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 12:12:50 -0400
From: "Turner Rentz" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Batch Processing

You can use psp if you set the options on the jpg  save as
then use batch mode.

Try psp 5 if you don't have it already. TR

- -----Original Message-----
From: Angela Wilczynski <[e-mail]>
To: Fractint <[e-mail]>
Date: Saturday, August 15, 1998 5:43 AM
Subject: (fractint) Batch Processing


>Does anyone know of a Win95 program that will reduce the size of jpg's
>in a batch process? I want to be able to convert my pics to thumbnails
>as quickly and easily as possible.
>
>Currently I have PSP and Corel's Photopaint.
>
>Angela
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Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 21:22:24 -0400 (EDT)
From: [e-mail] (Kragen)
Subject: Re: (fractint) webpage addition

On Sun, 23 Aug 1998 [e-mail] wrote:
>   My page is extremely basic. Mainly because I'm HTML illiterate. :(

Well, thank goodness!  It's easy to navigate, quick to load, and not
too hard to read, either.  If you were full of information about all
kinds of different HTML things, it'd probably be none of those.  :)

Kragen

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Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 20:13:44 -0700
From: "Faye Williams" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) webpage addition

Very nice Jim.  I'm not surprised that 2 of your images were picked.  They
are beautiful.

Faye
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http://www.sb.net/arkangel/

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From: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
Cc: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
Date: Sunday, August 23, 1998 5:34 AM
Subject: (fractint) webpage addition


>
>  My page is extremely basic. Mainly because I'm HTML illiterate. :(
>However,....I had a very nice surprise here at AOL last night and I've
added
>them to my page for anyone interested. This is the 1st time that 2 of my
>images have been picked in the same week! :)  The fractals are named
*Kirlian
>Fractal* (Jm04n007) and *Y2K* (Jm307nv1)   Enjoy~
>http://members.aol.com/JimBeau549/index.html
>
>Jim
>
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Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 22:35:58 -0600
From: "Tim Wegner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) version 20

Bud asked:

> I don't want to be a nudge, but when is v20 coming out?  I have
> been looking forward to working with the evolver and "formula"
> type Mandelbrot/Julia spacebar toggle features (among others),
> and the contest has reminded me of their absence.

The Fractint developers have for the most part taken a summer vacation from
the development effort. The current developer version really should be released
as soon as possible. The evolver that lets you mutate fractal parameters is the
main new feature. Another is the removal of the 2048 pixel limit for most
purposes. These features are reasonably complete and stable.

The developer version still has a few issues that need to be worked. But given
how slowly the team is working these days, perhaps we should release a
public beta version. I'll discuss it with the team.

I can't make any promises how soon this will be released other than saying
we'll look into releasing it sooner rather than later.

No, there is still no Win95/98 version. Version 20 is not a huge blockbuster
release; the v20 nomenclarure just acknowledges that the increments between
19.0 and 19.6 included more than enough new features to justify incrementing
the version.

Tim


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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 01:34:06 +1200
From: "Morgan L. Owens" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Formula inclusion - discussion

Formula Inclusion in Fractint .frm files.
A discussion paper.

Morgan L. Owens

*Introduction*

Recently I have come back to reconsider a suggestion I made on this list
regarding the possibility of a formula inclusion construct. This was in
response to the enormous formulae and formula files that were then
appearing, partly due to the introduction of the IF-ENDIF construct and
partly the ability to scroll through a formula entry in the Z screen -
both innovations appearing with v19.6. The formulae of Paul Carlson,
Kerry Mitchell and Damien Jones are examples in point.

Many of these formulae got their length less from the formula being
iterated than from elaborate bailout tests and colouring methods.
Another cause is the detailed annotation that many of these formulae are
equipped with.

The principal drawback of these trends is the large size and increasing
unreadability of formulae and formula files. Formula files have the
additional problem of large chunks of code and commentary being repeated
multiple times as they are reused in formula after formula. If one
wishes to use a certain custom colouring method on a new fractal, one
must copy all the code for that colouring method into the new formula;
the only actual difference between the new formula entry and the
original may literally be a matter of two lines.

So to consider this situation as one which could do with addressing, I
shall submit here a suggested approach to trimming formulae and formula
files down to size, while at the same time promoting readability.

This is a suggestion only; I certainly am not making prescriptions as to
what should be done, merely what could be done. I am not involved with
writing Fractint, so this paper should be considered not as a demand
that anyone need necessarily go along with it, but as serving as the
basis for a possible discussion among the Fractint community.


*A Suggestion: The # construct.*

The suggestion is a very simple one. Repeated blocks of code are written
under a formula name of their own, and when the formula writer wishes to
use one of these blocks of code in a formula, a reference to the block
is inserted instead. References are indicated by means of a "#"
character. This character has been chosen for a number of reasons:

1. It's already used in C programming to indicate a preprocessor
   command; for example, "#include <time.h>" signals the C compiler to
   include the contents of the file "time.h" at this location.
2. It has no current role in the Fractint formula language, so no
   existing formulae would be "broken" by its introduction.
3. It is not widely used in Fractint commentary. Of the files in my copy
   of the Orgform collection, only eight use the '#' in comments. This
   makes searching for occurrences of '#' (and hence fragments) easier.

Let's look at a very simple example. This certainly does not do the
concept justice, but does show the technical details.

Consider two formula entries:

Greebled_Lambda {
  z = pixel, c = p1
  #Greeble_initialise
  :
  z = z * (1 - z ) * c
  #Greeble_colouring
}

Greebled_Mandel {
  z = 0, c = pixel
  #Greeble_initialise
  :
  z = z * z + c
  #Greeble_colouring
}

The two formulae differ in only three lines (counting the name), and it
hides the fact that the "Greeble" colouring method (whatever that looks
like) involves seventy lines of code in the test, and four lines of
initialisation to specify constants and extra user parameters.

Of course, Fractint has to be told about those 74 lines sooner or later,
and elsewhere in the same formula file as the two entries above one
would find:

#Greeble-initialise {
[four lines of initialisation code snipped]
}

#Greeble-colouring {
[seventy lines of code, ending with a boolean bailout expression]
}

Assuming these four entries are the only four in the file, and assuming
an extra blank line between each entry, we have a file that is 94 lines
long. Compare this with the 159 of the conventional representation.
Compare also the 8 lines added by

Greebled_Thingy {
  z = 0, c = pixel+p1
  #Greeble_initialise
  :
  z=sin(z) + z*z/fn1(z*c)
  #Greeble_colouring
}

with the 80 added in the conventional setting (bringing the totals up to
(102 and 239, respectively.)

You will have noticed that the "#Greeble-initialise" and "#Greeble-
colouring" entries also carry the '#' character. The reason for this is
twofold:

1. Fractint would know to ignore entries beginning with '#' when listing
the contents of a formula file in the formula selection screen.

2. Strictly speaking, '#'d formula entries are "formula fragments"
(which is the term we'll use henceforth), and usually not complete
formulae in their own right. For example, in our mythical Greeble
example neither formula fragment is complete. They both lack a colon to
indicate the end of initialisation, #Greeble-initialise doesn't end with
a boolean expression for testing bailout with, and so on.

Some formula fragments may actually contain no code at all. For
example, one might have

#Copyright-notice {
; This formula is Copyright (C)1998 Ender Wiggin
; Email: [e-mail]
;
; No attractors were harmed in the making of this fractal.
;
; None of the opinions expressed herein are mine. They were forced upon
; me at gunpoint by the faculty of this institution.
}

Indeed, no doubt there are uses for the "#Nothing{}" fragment.

The usage of a formula fragment name is kind of a cross between the
"ENDIF" statement and a comment. It sits on a line of its own, it begins
when the '#' is reached, and it ends at the end of the name, which
follows the same rules as formula names. Anything following the name on
the line is ignored.

So for example:

z=z*z+c
#Stretch-z
#Tweak-z ;A harmless comment.
c=c+1
#Twist-about-centre z=c/p2
z=z+#Naughty-stuff

The statement "z=c/p2" is never parsed, and the last line results in an
error.

These restrictions - which basically force formula fragment usages into
lines on their own - have been chosen to minimise confusion when writing
and parsing. Does "#Twist-about-p1" refer to a formula fragment named
"#Twist-about-p1" or does it mean "#Twist-about minus parameter-1"?
Since hyphens can appear in formula entry names, the former is the case.
Note that "#Twist-about - p1" will be read as saying "#Twist-about".


*The '#' construct and the parser.*
There are virtually no restrictions on the contents of a formula
fragment. Any consective sequence of complete lines from a formula can
be bundled up and whacked into a fragment with total disregard for
syntactic correctnes of the result. Fragments could straddle the colon
and spill over from the initialisation section into the loop, IFs and
their matching ENDIFs could be sitting in different fragments, and so
on.

In the above example, if you really _did_ want to use #Naughty-stuff
that way, you can make use of the fact that the formula
language allows the use of '\' to spread statements over multiple
lines:

z=z+\
#Naughty-stuff

is legal. #Naughty-stuff should then at least begin with an arithmetic
expression lacking an '='.

Another example harks back to Greebling. Note that in every Greebled
formula, the line "#Greeble_initialise" is followed by a colon. Well,
why not tack the colon to the end of #Greeble_initialise, and then we
can drop it from the formula entries themselves?

Greebled_Lambda {
  z = pixel, c = p1
  #Greeble_initialise
  z = z * (1 - z ) * c
  #Greeble_colouring
}

Greebled_Mandel {
  z = 0, c = pixel
  #Greeble_initialise
  z = z * z + c
  #Greeble_colouring
}

Greebled_Thingy {
  z = 0, c = pixel+p1
  #Greeble_initialise
  z=sin(z) + z*z/fn1(z*c)
  #Greeble_colouring
}

#Greeble-initialise {
[four lines of initialisation code snipped]
:
}

#Greeble-colouring {
[seventy lines of code, ending with a boolean bailout expression]
}

When Fractint is reading a formula and comes across a formula fragment
usage, it jumps to that fragment's entry and reads everything between
the braces. When it gets to the closing '}', it jumps back to where it
had left off and resumes.

Exactly the same effect could be achieved by hand: copy the contents of
each fragment that is used and paste it in place of the inclusion
statement that calls it.

(Note for implementors: A stack of fragment calls will need to be
maintained both to keep track of nested fragments and to spot errors of
the "#foo uses #bar while #bar uses #foo" variety.)

Note that all this is going on while the formula is being read in. This
is important from the user's point of view because it means that the
formula displayed in the Z screen and elsewhere within Fractint's
interface is the complete formula after all included fragments have been
included.

This means that commentary about authorship, suggested default values,
etc., will be available to users without their having to worry about the
fact that both might be stored in fragments.

(Another note for implementors: Messages generated by errors within
fragments should refer to the fragment, not the formula that's including
it. The most niggly error in this context would probably be a broken IF-
ENDIF construct.)


*Fragments across multiple files - Toolkits*
One may use a particular fragment many times indeed, and have several
files that contain formulae using it. Rather than having a copy of the
fragment available in each file (which kind of begins to defeat the
purpose of having fragments in the first place), one may instead have
multiple-file spanning.

This requires a slight extension to the syntax of inclusion.
If the fragment you want to use, say #Mobius_Transform, is over in the
file Conform.frm then something along the lines of
"#Conform\Mobius_Transform" would be called for. I'm not sure about
using the backslash character here, mightn't a reuse of '#' be better?
"#Conform#Mobius_Transform"? At any rate, it can't be a character that's
already allowed in a formula (fragment) name, and probably shouldn't be
one that's already widely used in Fractint formulae (see note 3 on
justifying the use of '#' above).

Once this extension is available, however, one can build and maintain
toolkits of useful formula-type things: fractal definitions, bailout
tests, colouring methods, common transformations....

If the file (in this case, Conform.frm) is not found, or it's found but
#Mobius_Transform isn't in it, presumably Fractint will go on a hunt
through all the other formula files in an attempt to track it down.


*Distribution of fragmented formulae*
This could get fiddly. You receive a formula, but you don't have the
fragments it uses. Someone posts a complete 300-line formula, then posts
another 300-line formula with two lines' difference. These are two ends
of a spectrum of possibilities.

A sensible middle ground may be to post and email formulae and their
fragments together, without whacking the fragments into the formulae.
The increase in size of emails and postings would scarcely rise, and if
several formulas that use the same fragments are distributed together,
there would be a significant decrease. It would be up to the distributor
to make sure that the formulae and fragments as given would stand on
their own feet, just as Fractint users now check that pars have their
colour information intact, and are careful about supplying the formula
when it's likely that the recipient doesn't have it already.

A drawback is that it would make maintaining Orgform more difficult.
Sorry, George! :-)


*Interfacing with fragments.*
Basically, knowing how to use fragments is up to the programmer. Since
the fragment is whacked bodily into the formula, its usage of variables,
parameters, and so forth has to be consistent with the formula's own
usages in order to prevent rude noises and red text boxes or bungled
images. Suitable commentary is probably a good idea.


*Conclusion*
No conclusion. It's silly to start a discussion with a conclusion. It's
just that I've realised I should put this out now or I'll be tinkering with
it all night.

Morgan L. Owens



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Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 10:35:46 -0400 (EDT)
From: [e-mail] (Kragen)
Subject: Re: (fractint) Formula inclusion - discussion

On Tue, 25 Aug 1998, Morgan L. Owens wrote:
> So to consider this situation as one which could do with addressing, I
> shall submit here a suggested approach to trimming formulae and formula
> files down to size, while at the same time promoting readability.
>
> . . . References are indicated by means of a "#" character. . . .

I think your idea is an excellent one.

To contribute to the discussion:
- - I'm not sure that references to blocks containing only comments are really
    useful.  A comment saying '; see copyright notice at top of file'
    would work just as well.
- - It'd be nice to be able to do recursion, which would mean having the
    "formula-inclusion" happen later on in life -- not in the parser
    frontend, but in the formula-evaluating back end.  This would also
    tend to promote better error messages, since things like IF-ENDIF
    mismatches would be more easily localized.
- - Maybe your # marker, meaning "not a complete formula", is a good idea.

Kragen

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Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 20:20:51 +0200
From: "Dean-Christian Strik" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Formula inclusion - discussion

Morgan,

I like your suggestions very much. And I agree there's sure some advantage in
it, looking at ever-expanding .frm files.

Your '#nothing{}' blocks are actually unnecessary. Fractint supports multiple
comment{} blocks.

Of course something similar could be added to the .par files.
And even to the frm:{} entries in .par files.

Christian





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Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 21:54:21 +0200
From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Luc-Andr=E9_Rey?=" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) new site

Hello,
(sorry for my bad english...)

My site  :
http://www.myale.org/09/warey/fract/index.html
A amateur's site.

I hope  you like it.

Luc-Andre

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Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 22:03:28 +0200
From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Luc-Andr=E9_Rey?=" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) new site

Sorry,

the url is

http://www.mygale.org/09/warey/fract/index.html

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> A : [e-mail]
> Objet : (fractint) new site
> Date=A0: lundi, 24. ao=FBt 1998 21:54
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> Hello,
> (sorry for my bad english...)
>=20
> My site  :
> http://www.myale.org/09/warey/fract/index.html
> A amateur's site.
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> I hope  you like it.
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> Luc-Andre
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Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 17:47:25 -0400
From: Paul DeCelle <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) new site

>Luc-Andr=E9 Rey wrote:
> =

> My site  :
> http://www.myale.org/09/warey/fract/index.html


Luc-Andre--

I couldn't load your site - I get the following message:

"The requested item could not be loaded by the proxy.

Netscape Proxy is unable to locate the server: www.myale.org The server
does not have a DNS entry. Check the server name in the Location (URL)
and try again."

Maybe you just have an error in the URL as posted...

Regards, Paul

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Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 23:55:22 +0200
From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Luc-Andr=E9_Rey?=" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) new site

Yes, i'm sorry
the correct url is

http://www.myGale.org/09/warey/fract/index.html

I'im verry sorry for the inconveniences.Luc-Andr=E9
[e-mail]

http://www.mygale.org/09/warey/fract/index.html
      - pour le plaisir des yeux...



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> Date=A0: lundi, 24. ao=FBt 1998 23:47
>=20
> >Luc-Andr=E9 Rey wrote:
> >=20
> > My site  :
> > http://www.myale.org/09/warey/fract/index.html
>=20
>=20
> Luc-Andre--
>=20
> I couldn't load your site - I get the following message:
>=20
> "The requested item could not be loaded by the proxy.
>=20
> Netscape Proxy is unable to locate the server: www.myale.org The server
> does not have a DNS entry. Check the server name in the Location (URL)
> and try again."
>=20
> Maybe you just have an error in the URL as posted...
>=20
> Regards, Paul
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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 00:02:19 +0200
From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Luc-Andr=E9_Rey?=" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Sorry

I'm sorry,

the correct url of my little site is :

http://www.mygale.org/09/warey/fract/index.html


Sorry for inconvenciences (and my very very "little" english :-)

Luc-Andr=E9
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