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fractint-digest       Wednesday, August 5 1998       Volume 01 : Number 265




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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 12:00:04 -0400 (EDT)
From: [e-mail] (Kragen)
Subject: Re: (fractint) PARtoBAT image build termination

On Wed, 29 Jul 1998 [e-mail] wrote:
> In a message dated 29-07-98 7:24:36 AM EST, [e-mail] writes:
> >  Sure.  In the fractint command line, use SAVETIME=-n, where n is the number
> >  of minutes.                                       ^
                                                       |
                                               note minus sign: SAVETIME=-n

> I tried the SAVETIME switch and set it to (SAVETIME=1) made a bat file and ran
                                  Note: no minus sign ^

> it.  What happened was that every minute the image build would stop and save
> but the same image would continued to build instead of moving on to the next
> par.  This works more like a worksaver in case of a power glitch more than a
> image build termination.  Am I missing something in my sstools.ini to make it
> work like a stop?

A minus sign.

Kragen


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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 15:41:57 -0400
From: Ron Barnett <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) test

I don't seem to be getting Fractint list mail. this is a test.

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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 23:32:07 +0200
From: "Dean-Christian Strik" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) test

Ron Barnett wrote:

:I don't seem to be getting Fractint list mail. this is a test.


:I don't seem to be getting Fractdev list mail. This is a test.

:I don't seem to be getting fractal art mail. This is a test.

Gosh... all of these lists together... Well, I'm not a specialist in the area,
but I guess the problem here isn't related to these lists :)

Christian




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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 15:18:34 +0200
From: Joe Pearson <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (fractint) mish mash PAR FRM

>A quick question about Partobat:  Is there any way I can make fractint or
>partobat generate an image for only ten minutes then automatically save to a
>recoverable gif and move on to the next par entry?  Or even mark or disable
>the already generated entries in the bat file so that if the bat file is run
>over again it doesn't regenerate all the images.


Looks like you have the answer from some other posts.  Here's a extra
technique: to continue calculation for a set time on all the images that
you saved after 10 minutes,
for %g in (xxx*.gif) do fractint %g savename=%g overwrite=yes
savetime=-10 batch=yes
replacing xxx* with whatever you want.
The only drawback is this loads and re-saves even the completed images,
but it doesn't spend 10 minutes over it.

Joe


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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 15:21:54 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) mish mash PAR FRM

Thanks to Lee, Kragen, and Joe for the help.

I actually ran all the pars from the list from 0ct97 int a bat file.  The
ellusive negative sign did the trick.  Thanks again.

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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 15:21:54 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) mish mash PAR FRM

Thanks to Lee, Kragen, and Joe for the help.

I actually ran all the pars from the list from 0ct97 int a bat file.  The
ellusive negative sign did the trick.  Thanks again.

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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 18:23:47 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Heightfields

How does one create heightfields for ray-tracers like POV-Ray using Fractint?

I only seem to be able to make images with 256 colors. When I open these
images in a paint program, the histogram of their color distribution shows
that they are not a continuous distribution.

I've seen some web references to people using Fractint to make heightfields
for POV-Ray.  Some of you on the list may remember that a few months ago, I
complained about the difficulty (impossibility) of getting true RGB, or even
true 256 Gray images out of Fractint.  The fact that people are using Fractint
to make heightfields makes me wonder if I did not ask the correct question.

Perhaps I am so dense as to need to be shown the exact keystrokes.
_________________________
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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 18:23:47 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Heightfields

How does one create heightfields for ray-tracers like POV-Ray using Fractint?

I only seem to be able to make images with 256 colors. When I open these
images in a paint program, the histogram of their color distribution shows
that they are not a continuous distribution.

I've seen some web references to people using Fractint to make heightfields
for POV-Ray.  Some of you on the list may remember that a few months ago, I
complained about the difficulty (impossibility) of getting true RGB, or even
true 256 Gray images out of Fractint.  The fact that people are using Fractint
to make heightfields makes me wonder if I did not ask the correct question.

Perhaps I am so dense as to need to be shown the exact keystrokes.
_________________________
Greg M. Johnson
[e-mail]

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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 18:22:53 -0500
From: "Damien M. Jones" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Heightfields

Greg,

 - I only seem to be able to make images with 256 colors. When I open these
 - images in a paint program, the histogram of their color distribution shows
 - that they are not a continuous distribution.

FractInt can only make 256-color heightfield data (for the most part).
FractInt's color palettes don't handle 24-bit color, which is why the
histogram you see in your paint program doesn't show continuous values.
But this doesn't really matter, because POV-Ray (if I remember correctly)
ignores the palette values and only uses color index values for 256-color
images.  If this doesn't work, use the altern.map palette (either comes
with FractInt or FracXtra) as a grey-scale substitute.

This still only gets you an 8-bit height value, but for many things that
may be enough.  Otherwise you'll need to check out the continuous potential
16-bit option, which I believe POV-Ray supports.  (But this only works for
fractals where continuous potential works.)

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Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 11:56:29 -0400 (EDT)
From: [e-mail] (Kragen)
Subject: Re: (fractint) Heightfields

On Thu, 30 Jul 1998 [e-mail] wrote:
> How does one create heightfields for ray-tracers like POV-Ray using Fractint?
>
> I only seem to be able to make images with 256 colors. When I open these
> images in a paint program, the histogram of their color distribution shows
> that they are not a continuous distribution.

256 colors is probably good enough most of the time.  But the default
settings yield a very steep slope away from, say, the Mandelbrot lake.

> I've seen some web references to people using Fractint to make heightfields
> for POV-Ray.

Try some of the following:
- - Use the distance estimation method.
- - Set your bailout value to something enormous.
- - Use a outside-coloring method other than the iteration number at bailout,
    which is the default.  (256-way decomposition is pretty cool.  The
    surfaces it yields are very discontinuous, which may not be what you
    want.)
- - Make sure maxiter is at least 255 if you're coloring according to the
    default method.  (More than 255 might produce wraparound near the
    lake, where you follow a gradual slope upward to 255, then
    precipitously drop down to 0, then go up again to the lake.)
- - Use a different inside-coloring option.
- - Use a hicolor or truecolor video mode so you can have more than 256
    levels.  (They'll look better as heightfields than on the screen,
    I think.)

> Some of you on the list may remember that a few months ago, I
> complained about the difficulty (impossibility) of getting true RGB, or even
> true 256 Gray images out of Fractint.

Why can't you get 256-gray images?

> The fact that people are using Fractint
> to make heightfields makes me wonder if I did not ask the correct question.

I'm puzzled.

> Perhaps I am so dense as to need to be shown the exact keystrokes.

Maybe so, or maybe not.  Do my suggestions make sense?

Kragen (it's been years since I did heightfields with fractint, so I
    may be spouting nonsense)


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Date: Sat, 01 Aug 1998 08:24:35 +0200
From: [e-mail] (Stefan Hundhammer)
Subject: (fractint) TGA image output

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Hi!

I would like generate fractals for a TGA slide printer.
Is it possible to calculate and save images with FRACTINT?
And which release of FRACTINT suports it? Where can I
download the release.

Many thanks for Help!

Greetings from Munich ...

Stefan

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Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 03:14:26 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Heightfields

Sorry to bother the list with this but the subject has come up:) When i select
for a pot file to gain resolution for a pic to use as a heightfield in pov,
the resulting image loads in paint shop pro as an 8-bit image with two
separate sides; the fractal and what looks like brain coral next to it.  Can
someone advise me as to how to get Fractint to output a 16-bit .pot plasma
fractal image file?

Thank you very much for any help!

Renrad1
If it is a long reply please e-mail me since this subject seems to not come up
on the list often.

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Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 06:26:31 -0700
From: "Mike and Linda Allison" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Lost Formula

I seem to have lost a formula - 051597-002mc

I don't know if it was uploaded or not, but if anyone has it and could
send it to me, I'd appreciate it!
Thanks,
Linda
http://www.fractalus.com/gumbycat/index.html (gallery3.html: last update
7/12/98)
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/5519/abpf.html (abpf.html: last update
7/29/98)
http://www.toptown.com/innercircle/gumbycat/index.html (gallery3.html:
last update 7/10/98)

Copyright, all rights reserved:
http://www.fractalus.com/gumbycat/copyright.html


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Date: Sat, 01 Aug 1998 11:17:05 -0500
From: "Damien M. Jones" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Heightfields

Renrad1,

 - When i select for a pot file to gain resolution for a pic to use as a
 - heightfield in pov, the resulting image loads in paint shop pro as an
 - 8-bit image with two separate sides; the fractal and what looks like
 - brain coral next to it.

Yep, that's because the .pot file is really a GIF file with the extra eight
bits of data "kludged" in as more image data off to the right side.

 - Can someone advise me as to how to get Fractint to output a 16-bit .pot
 - plasma fractal image file?

On the "z" options screen for plasma, change the last item to "1".  When
you save your image, it will be a 16-bit .pot file.

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Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 16:44:08 +0100
From: "Les St Clair" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) July Par Collection

Hi everyone,

July's par collection, is now available from the usual spot:
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Les_StClair/

For those who wanted the text of the messages included, there is an alternative
version at:
http://www.homeusers.prestel.co.uk/crosstrees/fractasi.htm

Also updated (at my CompuServe site) is the par collection for Jim Muth's FOTD.

cheers,

Les


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Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 23:35:31 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Heightfields

Damien Jones wrote:
<On the "z" options screen for plasma, change the last item to "1".  When
you save your image, it will be a 16-bit .pot file.>

Thank You!

renrad1

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Date: Sun, 02 Aug 1998 09:01:13 +0200
From: [e-mail] (Stefan Hundhammer)
Subject: Re: (fractint) TGA image output

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Hello Kragen!

> > I would like generate fractals for a TGA slide printer.
> > Is it possible to calculate and save images with FRACTINT?
> Yes, as .gifs.

Hmmm, but gifs are only 256 color images. I need images with65000 colors or
more for our magnum-posters.

> > And which release of FRACTINT suports it? Where can I
> > download the release.
> I think since 2.0 or 3.0 (in 1989 or 1990?) Fractint has had this feature.

Right, but the TGA-Output was canceled in the past. So what was thelast
version of FRACTINT with TGA-Output?

Stefan

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Date: Sun, 02 Aug 1998 09:59:27 -0400
From: Barry Bluestein <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) TGA image output

Stefan, why don't you just save the file as a GIF from Fractint, then use=
 one of
the many available graphic softwares to convert the GIF to a TGA file?

Stefan Hundhammer wrote:

> Hello Kragen!
>
> > > I would like generate fractals for a TGA slide printer.
> > > Is it possible to calculate and save images with FRACTINT?
> > Yes, as .gifs.
>
> Hmmm, but gifs are only 256 color images. I need images with65000 color=
s or
> more for our magnum-posters.
>
> > > And which release of FRACTINT suports it? Where can I
> > > download the release.
> > I think since 2.0 or 3.0 (in 1989 or 1990?) Fractint has had this fea=
ture.
>
> Right, but the TGA-Output was canceled in the past. So what was thelast
> version of FRACTINT with TGA-Output?
>
> Stefan
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Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 10:13:43 -0400 (EDT)
From: [e-mail] (Kragen)
Subject: Re: (fractint) TGA image output

On Sun, 2 Aug 1998, Barry Bluestein wrote:
> Stefan, why don't you just save the file as a GIF from Fractint, then use
> one of the many available graphic softwares to convert the GIF to a TGA file?

Aren't .gifs limited to 256 colors?

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Date: Sun, 02 Aug 1998 16:25:07 +0100
From: "John C. A. Misterio'" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) TGA image output

Kragen wrote:

> Aren't .gifs limited to 256 colors?

Yes, GIF is a standart limited to 256 colors. No more, no less.




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Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 10:44:52 -0400 (EDT)
From: [e-mail] (Kragen)
Subject: Re: (fractint) TGA image output

On Sun, 2 Aug 1998, John C. A. Misterio' wrote:
> Kragen wrote:
>
> > Aren't .gifs limited to 256 colors?
>
> Yes, GIF is a standart limited to 256 colors. No more, no less.

Actually, it can be "less" -- there are 4-color .gifs, 16-color .gifs, etc.

But if the guy wants a 64kcolor picture, 'save as .gif and convert to
.tga' is not a reasonable answer!

Kragen


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Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 15:15:19 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) TGA image output

In a message dated 8/2/98 7:19:18 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [e-mail]
writes:

> On Sun, 2 Aug 1998, Barry Bluestein wrote:
>  > Stefan, why don't you just save the file as a GIF from Fractint, then use
>  > one of the many available graphic softwares to convert the GIF to a TGA
> file?
>
>  Aren't .gifs limited to 256 colors?

I'm de-lurking here. I use the latest PaintShop Pro, which allows increase of
colors and a lot of tweaking. You can then save it in any number of formats.

Damascena Korwen

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Date: Sun, 02 Aug 1998 13:13:03 -0700
From: "Angela Wilczynski" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Windows help

I know this is off topic....but win95 just did it to me!!

All of a sudden I'm getting a funny font rather than the windows standard.  I've
tried all of the standard settings using Control Panel.

Any help in restoring the original font would be much appreciated since this one
is readable but very jagged when using Netscape.

Please reply off line to [e-mail]

Thanks

Angela

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Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 23:07:31 +0200
From: "Dean-Christian Strik" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) TGA image output

Damascena wrote:

:I'm de-lurking here. I use the latest PaintShop Pro, which allows increase of
:colors and a lot of tweaking. You can then save it in any number of formats.


This may well be, but this still doesn't provide one with the image
information that a 16bit fractint output image would. All effects achieved
with image manipulating programs like PSP are synthetical and don't give an
accurate representation of the fractal nature a 16bit fractint image would
have.

Christian




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Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 20:51:02 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) TGA image output

In a message dated 8/2/98 4:52:51 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

> This may well be, but this still doesn't provide one with the image
>  information that a 16bit fractint output image would.
Hi Christian! Okay, this is true; if what you are looking for is 16bit
fractint, we will all probably have to wait a while. I get swamped enough with
256 colors myself :) and use the other system *very* rarely for fractal images
- -- being a bit of a purist.....

Dama

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Date: Mon, 03 Aug 1998 10:15:37 -0500
From: "Damien M. Jones" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) TGA image output

I have a few thoughts on this.

If you want images with more than 256 colors, FractInt alone will not do it
(yet).  There are various things you can do, such as render a fractal
twice, but with slightly different parameters, then combine then in PSP.
This very much preserves the fractal nature of the image.  You can get part
of this by using PHC/PTC techniques in FractInt, although this restricts
the combination method to a 50-50 mix.  I've had more pleasing results by
using one image as hue and saturation, and another image as lightness.

There are also programs which will render in 24-bit color to begin with.  I
believe Terry Gintz's software will read FractInt PAR files, and if
possible render them smoothly in true color (but I have never used it
extensively, so I'm just going from memory here).  I think there are some
other programs (TrueMand?) that will do this sort of thing as well,
although I suspect neither support all the FractInt features.  And there
are programs like TieraZon (and all of Steve Ferguson's other programs) and
Ultra Fractal which will render in true color natively.

Damien M. Jones   \\
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                    \\  http://www.fractalus.com/ (fractals are my hobby)

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Date: Mon, 03 Aug 1998 23:48:02 -0500
From: Lavondyss <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Page Updates

Ok,

I have finally been able to update my page. I've added a few 24-bit
fractals. Dunno if any checks, but here's the URL. If you do visit, please
be patient while the thumbnails are finished.

http://www.tc.umn.edu/~nguy0505/Fractals.htm

Enjoy!
Lavondyss


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Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 09:38:19 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time)
From: "Nigel H. J. Long" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Fractint on a non-DOS box?

Hello everyone,

I have 'acquired' a second PC (from the office waste
skip actually) and want to use it to learn Linux (red hat?).

1) Is the XFractint port ok under linux?
2) if it is, how does it compare to the DOS version (19.6
specifically)
3) if it runs, does it require Xwindow to run? (the box is a
rather elderly 486 and low on RAM and diskspace)

Please bear in mind that I am a complete linux-newbie!!
Assume I know nothing (believe me, that's true).

PLEASE REPLY TO ME DIRECT at
  [e-mail]
unless you think your comments may be of more general
interest.

Any thoughts and comments welcome,  Thanks in advance.

- ----------------------
Nigel H. J. Long
[e-mail]

"Of all the forces of nature, the hardest to overcome is
the force of habit..."  Terry Pratchett.


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Date: Tue, 04 Aug 1998 12:56:21 +0100
From: "John C. A. Misterio'" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) TGA image output

Kragen wrote:

> On Sun, 2 Aug 1998, John C. A. Misterio' wrote:
> > Kragen wrote:
> >
> > > Aren't .gifs limited to 256 colors?
> >
> > Yes, GIF is a standart limited to 256 colors. No more, no less.
>
> Actually, it can be "less" -- there are 4-color .gifs, 16-color .gifs, etc.
>
> But if the guy wants a 64kcolor picture, 'save as .gif and convert to
> .tga' is not a reasonable answer!
>
> Kragen

Ok, you're right. There are 16- and 4-color GIFs - my fault.
Of course it is not the correct way to 'save as .gif and convert to .tga'.
In fact you can increase the number of colors. Then you have 256 different
colors in a 64k-palette. Or even in a 16777216-color-palette. So the only
way to get a 'real' highcolor-pic is to "combine" two fractals with slightly
different parameters.

Markus



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Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 07:24:51 +1000
From: David Burnett <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) A plea for help with an Internet Survey (completely off topic)

Hi Everyone,

I am passing on this letter from a friend who is trying to finish her Masters -
on the social effects & implications of the 'net. It would be really good if you
could fill out her survey. Please pass it on to everyone you can as she needs a
wide spectrum of people / nationalities etc to make the research meaningfull
regards
David


Hello friend(s),
I am short the required numbers for my university research and would eagerly ask
if you could help me out by giving your opinion & passing on this message. The
online survey is anonymous and only takes 15 minutes to complete. Go to this web
address: http://von.com.au/research/ to fill out the form and press the submit
button when you have finished. Then pass on this message to everyone you know
could help out.
*************************************************************
HOW HAS THE INTERNET CHANGED YOUR LIFE?
*************************************************************
***If you were thinking of doing the survey NOW IS THE TIME. It only takes 15
minutes.
***If you have already done the survey - thank you (please pass this message on
to others)
***If you are having difficulties please contact me - [e-mail]
***If you have more friends or relatives anywhere in the world who use the
internet
PLEASE PASS ON THIS MESSAGE. (press the forward button and cc: everyone you know
would possibly help out)

yours sincerely,
Wilhelmina von Buellen
[e-mail]


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Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 00:07:47 -0700
From: "Jon Camp" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (fractint) TGA image output

But what if you increase the palate size to 24bit and then resize the
fractal? That gives an enormous increase in colors. Would simply
anti-aliasing provide you with the neccesaty colors?
Just a thought...

| jon camp                                                   |
| valparaiso univerisity <><                                 |
| chaotic n-space network                                    |
| http://www.valpo.edu/home/student/jcamp/fractals_gate.html |


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Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 20:20:16 -0400
From: abraxas <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) 2ND Post- Sure could use some help !!

Running Fractint (tried several versions) on a P300 with 128M Ram.
Everytime I
use the save function, my screen turns neon with an abstract of my
desktop and that
is what gets saved. NOT my Fractal. Anybody have any ideas ?? Thanks in
advance.


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Date: Thu, 06 Aug 1998 01:07:52 -0400
From: Barry Bluestein <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) 2ND Post- Sure could use some help !!

abraxas wrote:

> Running Fractint (tried several versions) on a P300 with 128M Ram.
> Everytime I
> use the save function, my screen turns neon with an abstract of my
> desktop and that
> is what gets saved. NOT my Fractal. Anybody have any ideas ?? Thanks in
> advance.
>

When posting tech support questions such as this, at a bare minimum, you
need to provide your operating system information (In Win 95/98/NT look in
Control Panel>System. Be sure to give the complete version number), and
video card model (again, give exact version number).

Are you running Fractint in a window, full-screen or in DOS mode? Are you
in true DOS or just using the command prompt? (The last is obvious, but I
ask for completeness sake)

- --
Barry Bluestein - President
The Lapis Group
Information Technology Consulting - Internet Strategic Planning
11629 Deborah DR, Suite 1000, Potomac, MD 20854
301-299-0083



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