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fractint-digest       Wednesday, April 22 1998       Volume 01 : Number 172




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Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 07:31:12 -0700
From: "Angela Wilczynski" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) text/code editor

Jiho Kim wrote:

<<snipped>>
>
> Good night,
>
> Jiho
>
> p.s. Rejoice with me!  I am now a citizen of the United States of America!
>

Oh....many many congratulations, Jiho!!!  I'm an immigrant to the US also and can still remember when I became a citizen
at the age of 6!!!!!! Mom and dad were soooooooo excited.  Were you excited? Did you celebrate?

You should pick up the bud1.map from the map collection......it's red, white (ok, silver) and blue (and gold).

http://wizzle.simplenet.com/fractals/fractint_maps/newmaps.htm (in the midtones section)

Perfect for some patriotic pars. Speaking of pars, thank you so much for your formula....it was great fun to play with.

Angela

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Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 08:28:13 -0700
From: "Angela Wilczynski" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) The 'bottom'?

Thanks Jay and Kathy......I found both the seahorses and the elephants. Good to
know I can navigate in the fractal zoo.

Jay Hill wrote:

> > From: Angela Wilczynski <[e-mail]>
> > To: [e-mail]
> > Subject: Re: (fractint) The 'bottom'?
> > Date: Tuesday, April 21, 1998 10:17 PM
> >
> > What and where is seahorse valley?
>
> In the neck at -.75 on the (+) side. Try either side actually.
>

<<snipped>>


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Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 09:34:58 -0600
From: Ray Montgomery <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) To Citizen Jiho!

        Jiho

                Congratulations!  You've taken a giant step.  May you always
and forever have peace, health and prosperity and now, travel a lot - and
see all the remarkable areas there are here.
                My best wishes for your happiness.

                                        Ray


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Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 11:00:44 -0700
From: "Earl Simpson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) text/code editor

Jiho wrote:
>
>p.s. Rejoice with me!  I am now a citizen of the United States of America!
>


CONGRATULATIONS!     Welcome Citizen Jiho to the greatest country in the
world.

Earl Simpson



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Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 09:37:32 -0700
From: "Mike and Linda Allison" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) text/code editor

> p.s. Rejoice with me!  I am now a citizen of the United States of
America!

Wonderful Jiho!  And this country is the better for it!

Congratulations!
Linda

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Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 10:29:51 -0700
From: kathy roth <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) spiralgia

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Angela wrote:

> Please let me know if the par
> below has the dreaded extra lines.....it's quite long in places.
>

No, no dreaded extra lines or other problems.

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Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 12:40:14 -0500
From: Bob Margolis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Here's more params & a formula

North-South        { ; (c) 1998 by Bob Margolis
  reset=1920 type=formula formulafile=*.frm
  formulaname=gallet-3-02 function=tan/asin passes=1

corners=0.001328562088784505/0.001328565784738778/-0.16271358/0.16140192\
  /-0.1607291966168375/-0.00065582956 params=2.1/0/4.2/0 float=y
  maxiter=255 inside=0 outside=atan invert=4.76082568182182e-005/0/0
  decomp=64 periodicity=0 viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0
  colors=000<30>OI4<15>zp`wn_<14>000<191>000
  }

Floppy_Waffles     { ; (c) 1998 by Bob Margolis
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*..frm
  formulaname=Gallet-3-02 function=tan/conj passes=1
  corners=-0.906/0.906/-0.906/0.906 params=1.5/0.75/4/0 float=y
  maxiter=255 logmap=4 potential=256/32/0 periodicity=0
  viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0
  colors=000<212>000RK6<14>zp`<15>KA0000<8>000
  }

Portholes          { ; (c) 1998 by Bob Margolis
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm
  formulaname=Gallet-3-02 function=cotan/cotan passes=1
  corners=-0.0425561006/-0.04028431561/0.05190684864/0.05417863363
  params=2/0/8/0 float=y maxiter=255 potential=256/256/0
  periodicity=0 viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0
  colors=000nH0<2>iC0gB0dA0<2>V70R60M60J50<4>J40J40\
  K50<108>wu0tt0<2>ko0hm0ej0<2>X`0UX0RS0NO0<6>IJ0NJ0\
  TL0<2>gN0kO0nO0rP0<2>xQ0yQ0yQ0<3>rP0nO0kO0<2>YM0TL0\
  NJ0IJ0<6>7PH<4>HfZKiaMke<2>SpoUrsWrvWrvUrs<3>MkeKia\
  HfZ<3>9SL7PH7NH<4>BDECBDEBE<2>MDIPEJTFKXGL<2>jJNoKN\
  uLOuLO<2>eIM`HMXGLTFK<2>JDHGCGEBECBD\
  <6>M60R60<3>dA0gB0iC0kE0mF0nH0oI0oI0
  }

Painting_in_Museum { ; (c) 1998 by Bob Margolis
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm
  formulaname=Gallet-3-02 function=sin/cotan passes=1
  corners=0.01678618/3.127192/0.006921099/3.117327
  params=0.5/0.5/0.5/0.5 float=y maxiter=255 outside=atan
  decomp=256 periodicity=0 viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0
  colors=900<2>700630620600<9>000630<94>lkjlk\
  jmlknml<11>wwuwwl<12>wwfwwewwdwwcwvb<26>eT5eS3dR2cP0\
  cP0<29>S75R66R66R66<26>K11J11J11I00I00<14>900
  }

Rubik's_Fractal    { ; (c) 1998 by Bob Margolis
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm
  formulaname=Gallet-3-02 function=sin/cotan passes=1
  corners=-6.147541/6.147541/-6.147541/6.147541 params=0/3.2/0/2.1
  float=y maxiter=255 outside=atan decomp=256 periodicity=0
  viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0 colors=000<30>z00<30>2000000\
  11<30>0kk<30>022000101<30>k0z<30>202000110<30>kz0<28>230000000000
  }


Gallet-3-02 { ; Sylvie Gallet [101324,3444], 1996
 z = pixel :
 x = real(z) , y = imag(z)
 x1 = x - p1*fn1(y+p2*fn2(y))
 y1 = y - p1*fn1(x+p2*fn2(x))
 z = x1+flip(y1)
 |z| <= 4
}

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Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 15:49:06 -0400
From: davides <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) text/code editor

At 02:48 AM 4/22/1998 -0700, you wrote:
>
>Jiho
>
>p.s. Rejoice with me!  I am now a citizen of the United States of America!

Congratulations, and we wish you the best of fortune in the future!!

David
[e-mail]
Back up my hard drive?
How do I put it in reverse?

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Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 13:36:51 -0700
From: "Angela Wilczynski" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Maps with white

I find maps with white very hard to make but decided to give it one more
try when I saw the map Kathy Roth used (from the new maps) for Paul
Carlson's image. Here is my version.

spiralgia1_wiz     { ; kathy roth 4-21-98
                     ; frm by Paul Carlson
                     ; with new w-gldtel.map by wizzle
                     ;
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm
  formulaname=phoenix_atan passes=1
  center-mag=-3.21184/1.32182/0.7514248
  params=-0.50756510417/0.22080729167/0.5/0/2/125 float=y maxiter=1000
  inside=253 outside=summ invert=1/0/0

colors=50Axxg<11>spbsobrnarm`<13>dWMcUKbTK<7>VJDUHCUHC<51>yyyzzzzzzzzzzz\

  z<27>OzzNzzNyy<33>TJEUHCUHC<58>yyyzzzzzzzzz<28>xxh
  }

Actually, I was pretty disappointed, but it was the best I could do.  In
a fit of pique, I made this map which looks much better IMHO

spiralgia1_wiz2map    { ; eastereg.map new - try on Kathy's par
                     ; frm by Paul Carlson
 colors=F35uaa<34>M37K26K26<13>O6GP6HP6IP6IP6JP6J<42>bJkbJlcKmcLm<3>gRjhT\


ihUhhVh<13>vt_wvZwvZ<26>fSIeRHdQGcOFaME<8>E33E33E34F45<57>bJkbJlcKmdLm<1\

  9>xdfzeeyee<2>vbb
  }

But then.......I struck some luck when I started looking at Bob Carr's
great formulas ( in _rc.frm downloaded from spanky). My white maps were
Perfect for Bob's 900 series. As always, you have to look for the right
map with the right image and vice versa.

glow_swirl         { ; wizzle 4/22/98 w-pchgld.map new
                          ; frm by Bob Carr
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=_rc.frm formulaname=Carr-900
  passes=2 center-mag=-1.29074/-1.3103/4.901961/1.3333 float=y
  maxiter=1000 inside=253 outside=summ viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0

colors=50AbRQ<40>yyyzzzzzy<4>zzozzmzym<28>nVVmTUmTU<14>aJM`IL_HK_HJZHI<5\

 >UECUECVFD<61>zzzzzzzzy<31>xxexxdwwcwvc<27>YJEXHDWGDVFDUEC<14>aQP
  }

glow_swirl 1 { ; w-pchgld.map new
                     ; map only

colors=50AbRQ<40>yyyzzzzzy<4>zzozzmzym<28>nVVmTUmTU<14>aJM`IL_HK_HJZHI<5\

  >UECUECVFD<61>zzzzzzzzy<31>xxexxdwwcwvc<27>YJEXHDWGDVFDUEC<14>aQP
  }

glow_swirl2        { ; w-telgld.map new - try on glow_swirl
                     ; map only

colors=50AWKF<55>yyyzzzzzzzzz<28>xxhxxgxxgxwg<9>spbsobrnarm`<13>dWMcUKbT\

  K<7>VJDUHCUHC<51>yyyzzzzzzzzzzzz<27>OzzNzzNyy<33>TJEUHCUHCVIDVJE
  }

glow_swirl3        { ; w-pchglp.map new - try on glow_swirl

colors=50AaNE<8>UECUECVFD<54>yyyzzzzzy<4>zzozzmzym<28>nVVmTUmTU<13>dLLcK\


KaJK<8>K5K<19>dSdeTegWg<13>ukuwmwwmw<23>zzzzzzzzy<16>zzlzzkzzkzzkzzjzziz\

  zh<11>tjMsiKsiK<17>dSFdRFcQFbPFaOE
  }

glow_swirl4        { ;eastereg.map new - try on glow_swirl
                     ; frm by Bob Carr

colors=55AI5A<51>bJkbJlcKmdLm<19>xdfzeeyee<38>M37K26K26<13>O6GP6HP6IP6IP\


6JP6J<42>bJkbJlcKmcLm<3>gRjhTihUhhVh<13>vt_wvZwvZ<26>fSIeRHdQGcOFaME<8>E\

  33E33E34F45<4>H59
  }

 I added a couple of extra pars at the so you could see how the maps
look when they are tweaked a bit.....in both cases I changed the very
first and very last colors (as they are viewed in the map editor).

wiz_carr969        { ; wizzle 4/22/98 w-pchgld.map tweaked
                     ; frm by Bob Carr
   reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=_rc.frm formulaname=Carr-969
  passes=2 center-mag=-2.98372e-016/-1.41176/18.28287/1/90 float=y
  maxiter=1000 inside=253 outside=summ

colors=50EbRQ<40>yyyzzzzzy<4>zzozzmzym<28>nVVmTUmTU<14>aJM`IL_HK_HJZHI<5\


>UECUECVFD<61>zzzzzzzzy<31>xxexxdwwcwvc<27>YJEXHDWGDVFDUEC<11>_OMA05`POa\

  QP
  }

something_fishy2   { ; wizzle 4/22/98
                     ; frm by Bob Carr
                     ; the w-pchgld.map tweaked for with some fun wild
colors (red white and blue for Jiho's citizenship)
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=_rc.frm formulaname=Carr-930
  passes=2 center-mag=1.59646/0.218869/0.1335629/1.3333 float=y
  maxiter=1000 inside=253 outside=summ viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0

colors=w0Apkk<15>yyyzzzzzy<4>zzozzmzym<28>nVVmTUmTU<14>aJM`IL_HK_HJZHI<5\


>UECUECVFD<61>zzzzzzzzy<31>xxexxdwwcwvc<27>YJEXHDWGDVFDUEC<9>ZMK_NL_OM_O\

  N<2>bRQbSQcTRcUSdUT<16>nhg09Koiiojj
  }

frm:Carr-900 {
  z=cotanh(pixel+1)/imag(1/pixel-0.334),
  c=sqr(sqr(sqr(pixel*1/pixel))):
  z=(z^real(2.124)+c)/1.7,
  |real(z)| <=100
  ;SOURCE: carr.frm
}

frm:Carr-930 {
  z=conj(4/pixel),c=cotanh(pixel-4):
  z=(((imag(z+2)/c)+((2.4*z)*4/c))/(pixel-c*c+1/pixel))/1.6,
  |z-1/pixel| <=100
  ;SOURCE: 22carr.frm
}

frm:Carr-969 {
  z=imag(1/(pixel*pixel*pixel)),
  c=(4.299,-1.2)/(1/abs(pixel*pixel+2)):
  z=(z*1/c)/(pixel-c*c),
  |real(z)| <=100
  ;SOURCE: 23carr.frm
}




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Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 18:05:32 -0500 (CDT)
From: [e-mail] (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson)
Subject: (fractint) Five-method formula

comment {
The equation iterated in this formula, w=c*(1-w*w)/(1+w*w),
produces Julia sets with beautiful spirals.  I've incorporated
five different rendering methods into this formula.  Each method
uses different computations to compute the value for the
variable "dist" - all other computions are common to all methods.
For those interested, this formula is a good demo of my rendering
methodology.

The pars (in my order of preference):
harl_spirs:    harlequin spiral, may be my alltime favorite
gold_spirs:    uses rings method with size set to fill in the
        rings.  Simple, but elegant
stalks_spirs:    an unusual spiral
sphere_spirs:    colorful - same coords as gold_spirs
square_spirs:    same coords as gold_spirs, in blue and silver

Paul Carlson
}

frm:MyEqn_Julia {; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998
    ; p1       = Julia set coordinates
    ; real(p2) = selects rendering method
    ; imag(p2) = a factor controlling the size of the elements
    ; real(p3) = number of color ranges
    ; imag(p3) = number of colors in a range
    ;
    z = k = iter = range_num = bailout = 0
    w = pixel
    c = p1
    dist = 1.0e20
    size = imag(p2)
    num_ranges = real(p3)
    colors_in_range = imag(p3)
    index_factor = (colors_in_range - 1) / size
    render = real(p2)

    :
    w2 = w * w
    w = c * (1 - w2) / (1 + w2)
    ;
    ;;;;;;;;;; dist determined by rendering method ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
    IF (render == 1) ; RINGS                                   ;;
    dist = abs(|w|-.25)                                    ;;
    ELSEIF (render == 2) ; ANGLE FUNCTION                      ;;
    a = 2 * atan(imag(w) / real(w))                        ;;
    a = a * a + c                                          ;;
    a = exp(1 - a) / a                                     ;;
    dist = abs(|w| - |a|)                                  ;;
    ELSEIF (render == 3) ; SQUARES                             ;;
    k = 0.5 + size                                         ;;
    j = 0.5 - size                                         ;;
    awr = abs(real(w)), awi = abs(imag(w))                 ;;
    IF ((awr < k) && (awr > j) && (awi < k) && (awi > j))  ;;
        awr5 = abs(awr - 0.5), awi5 = abs(awi - 0.5)       ;;
        IF (awr5 <= awi5)                                  ;;
        dist = awr5                                    ;;
        ELSE                                               ;;
        dist = awi5                                    ;;
        ENDIF                                              ;;
    ENDIF                                                  ;;
    ELSEIF (render == 4) ; SPHERES                             ;;
    IF ((d = |w + (0,-.5)|) < size)                        ;;
        dist = size - d                                    ;;
    ELSEIF ((d = |w + (0,.5)|) < size)                     ;;
        dist = size - d                                    ;;
    ELSEIF ((d = |w + (-.5,0)|) < size)                    ;;
        dist = size - d                                    ;;
    ELSEIF ((d = |w + (.5,0)|) < size)                     ;;
        dist = size - d                                    ;;
    ENDIF                                                  ;;
    ELSEIF (render == 5) ; STALKS                              ;;
    IF (abs(real(w)) <= abs(imag(w)))                      ;;
        dist = abs(real(w))                                ;;
    ELSE                                                   ;;
        dist = abs(imag(w))                                ;;
    ENDIF                                                  ;;
    ENDIF                                                      ;;
    ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
    IF (dist < size && iter > 0)
    bailout = 1
    z = index_factor * dist + range_num * colors_in_range + 1
    ENDIF
    range_num = range_num + 1
    IF (range_num == num_ranges)
    range_num = 0
    ENDIF
    iter = iter + 1
    z = z - iter
    bailout == 0 && |w| < 1.0e20
}


gold_spirs         {; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=myeqjul.par
  formulaname=myeqn_julia passes=t
  corners=-6.08308/1.50092/2.116334/7.804334
  params=1.240929178/0.881773806/1/0.3/1/250
  float=y maxiter=300 inside=253 outside=summ
  colors=000zz0<248>aG0000000G00000000
  }

harl_spirs         {; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=myeqjul.par
  formulaname=myeqn_julia passes=t
  center-mag=-1.69694/2.10167/34.25788/1/62.5
  params=0.15/1.26875/2/0.3/2/125
  float=y maxiter=252 inside=253 outside=summ
  colors=000sF_<123>C02Mov<123>HKS000000ADL000000
  }

square_spirs       { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=myeqjul.par
  formulaname=myeqn_julia passes=t
  corners=-6.08308/1.50092/2.116334/7.804334
  params=1.240929178/0.881773806/3/0.18/2/125
  float=y maxiter=300 inside=253 outside=summ
  colors=000zzz<123>VVVGGz<123>00O00000000O000000
  }

sphere_spirs       { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=myeqjul.par
  formulaname=myeqn_julia passes=t
  corners=-6.08308/1.50092/2.116334/7.804334
  params=1.240929178/0.881773806/4/0.1/8/30
  float=y maxiter=300 inside=253 outside=summ
  colors=000c40<28>zW0I0K<28>fOz0C4<28>0zRO00<28>z8800O<25>E\
  EuEEwFFxGGzaG0<28>zz0O08<28>z0f0CC<28>0zz000<13>000
  }

stalks_spirs       { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=myeqjul.par
  formulaname=myeqn_julia passes=1
  corners=1.337235/2.427452/0.25013261/1.0677954
  params=3/0/5/0.07000000000000001/2/125
  float=y maxiter=1000 inside=253 outside=summ
  colors=0000W2<123>080zz0<123>aG0000<3>000
  }



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Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 20:36:54 -0400
From: "Jason Hine" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) The 'bottom'?

Kragen wrote:

>A lot of these swirls have minibrots in the middle.  Do all of them, or
>are there some of them that just go on forever?


I'm pretty sure there are some that just go on forever... others, as you have
noted, have minibrots at their centers.  I have found that if you travel into
the center of a long spiral (endless or not, it doesn't matter), and then after
you've attained some good depth, you magnify a piece of the arm of the spiral,
you will see more spirals, and some of these will have minibrots at the center,
but the amount of further magnification required to see them is proportional to
the amount of zooming you did into the original spiral!  Someday, perhaps, I'll
try to quantify the proportion using Fractint... unless some mathematician finds
an easier, formula-based way (here's hoping so)!


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Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 18:27:47 -0700
From: "Angela Wilczynski" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Five-method formula

Paul and/or Joyce Carlson wrote:

<<snipped>>
>
> The pars (in my order of preference):
> harl_spirs:     harlequin spiral, may be my alltime favorite
> gold_spirs:     uses rings method with size set to fill in the
>                 rings.  Simple, but elegant
> stalks_spirs:   an unusual spiral
> sphere_spirs:   colorful - same coords as gold_spirs
> square_spirs:   same coords as gold_spirs, in blue and silver
>
> Paul Carlson

<<snipped>>

Paul.....

Those are certainly magnificent formulas!!!  I too love the harlequin spiral and couldn't wait to share.....

wiz_harlequin1     { ; 4/22/98 Angela Wilczynski 2fushgld.map (new)
                     ; from a formula by Paul Carlson 1998
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm
  formulaname=MyEqn_Julia center-mag=0.0425146/-2.02304/1.474359/1/90
  params=0.15/1.2256/2/0.3/2/125 float=y maxiter=252 inside=253
  outside=summ colors=000vKU<123>A24zzm<121>eMEeMEdLDcKCcKC000wKUwKU
  }

wiz_harlequin2     { ; 4/22/98 Angela Wilczynski 2grncrem.map
                     ; from a formula by Paul Carlson 1998
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm
  formulaname=MyEqn_Julia center-mag=0.690012/0/0.09066667
  params=0.12/1.25989/2/0.3/2/125 float=y maxiter=252 inside=253
  outside=summ
  colors=000zwl<123>UF0czl<118>3G62F52F51E41E40D3071000<2>000
  }

wiz_harlequin3     { ; 4/22/98 Angela Wilczynski 2telgld3.map (new)
                     ; from a formula by Paul Carlson 1998
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm
  formulaname=MyEqn_Julia
  center-mag=-8.09703/5.55839/0.1630538/1/-49.999
  params=0.12/1.25989/2/0.3/2/125 float=y maxiter=252 inside=253
  outside=summ colors=C0Czyq<123>UF0Kzz<125>1AAzzrzzrzzr
  }

wiz_harlequin4     { ; 4/22/98 Angela Wilczynski 2fushgld.map (new)
                     ; from a formula by Paul Carlson 1998
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm
  formulaname=MyEqn_Julia center-mag=3.72319/4.84604/7.431694
  params=0.12/1.25989/2/0.3/2/125 float=y maxiter=252 inside=253
  outside=summ colors=000zym<119>eMEeMEdLDcKCcKCwKU<126>A24zzmzzm
  }

These pars were so lovely I thought they merited some new color maps, as noted.

Angela

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Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 18:33:06 -0700
From: "Angela Wilczynski" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Maps with white

Angela Wilczynski wrote:
>
> I find maps with white very hard to make but decided to give it one more
> try when I saw the map Kathy Roth used (from the new maps) for Paul
> Carlson's image. Here is my version.
>
<<snipped>>

Sorry about the added lines in the posting but Netscrape seems to add them at random. Unfortunately my new edition of Eudora adds accented a's instead
of blank spaces when the text is copied.  There seems no good choice here. Unlike previous editions of Eudora, there is no choice about the type of
text except for font styles (hrrrrumph)......"progress" I suppose.  I've complained to their technical support but have received no reply about a fix.

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Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 18:44:10 -0700
From: "Angela Wilczynski" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Netscape lines

I decided to bring the "extra lines" problem to Netscape's attention. They can be contacted at

http://help.netscape.com/forms/help-client.html

I've had the lines problem whether I use Nav Gold 3.0 or Communicator 4.01. Maybe if we all send email to Netscape they will tell us the fix. They
have some excellent tech info posted at

http://help.netscape.com/browse/commctr4x.html

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Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 23:17:15 -0400
From: "Peter Gavin" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Netscape lines

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Nowadays, most people have at least partly up to date mail clients, and =
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Pete

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Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 22:20:00 -0500 (CDT)
From: [e-mail] (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson)
Subject: Re: (fractint) Five-method formula

>Those are certainly magnificent formulas!!!

Thanks, Angela - glad you liked them.

>These pars were so lovely I thought they merited some new color maps,
>as noted.

And thanks also for the new colormaps - I really like them!

Paul Carlson


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Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 22:21:06 -0500
From: Bob Margolis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Re: Netscape's word warp

Angela Wilczynski wrote:
>
> I suspect the problem  may be the way word-wrap works in Netscrape. Apparently the default is 75 characters.

My reply:

Hey, I think you're right. Now I remember setting my default counter to
60 characters when I installed the software. I did this because I
correspond with many people around the world and 60 characters per line
was a limit all could handle equally well without interference from word
wrap. Guess I'll have to do a manual chop job on those lines longer than
60 characters. It wouldn't be efficient to keep changing the default
from 60 to 75 characters each time I need to send parameter files.

Bob

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Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 23:28:59 -0400 (EDT)
From: [e-mail] (Kragen)
Subject: (fractint) fractint

[posted to the Free Software Business mailing list, [e-mail];
 cross-posted to the Fractint list [e-mail] so
 people know I'm talking about them.  Anyone on either list who wants
 me to forward responses from the other list to them, let me know.
 Alternatively, if you think my post needs correction, I'll forward
 your correction of me to the appropriate list :) ]

I don't know how many of you fsbers are familiar with fractint.
Briefly, it's the best fractal plotter ever, and it has been for
something like ten years.

It's unique in that it's open-source-almost-all-the-way MS-DOS
software.  All the original developers met each other on Compuserve and
exchanged code there.  It always shipped with full source, and its
license was always rather liberal.  Here's the copyright statement from
version 19.5 (about a year and a half old, I think:)

  Fractint is an experiment in collaboration. Many volunteers have joined
  Bert Tyler, the program's first author, in improving successive
  versions.  Through electronic mail messages, CompuServe's GO GRAPHICS
  forums, new versions are hacked out and debugged a little at a time.
  Fractint was born fast, and none of us has seen any other fractal
  plotter close to the present version for speed, versatility, and all-
  around wonderfulness. (If you have, tell us so we can steal somebody
  else's ideas instead of each other's.)  See The Stone Soup Story
  (p. 167) and A Word About the Authors (p. 168) for information about the
  authors, and see Contacting the Authors (p. 170) for how to contribute
  your own ideas and code.

  Fractint is freeware. The copyright is retained by the Stone Soup Group.

  Fractint may be freely copied and distributed in unmodified form but may
  not be sold. (A nominal distribution fee may be charged for media and
  handling by freeware and shareware distributors.) Fractint may be used
  personally or in a business - if you can do your job better by using
  Fractint, or using images from it, that's great! It may not be given
  away with commercial products without explicit permission from the Stone
  Soup Group.

  There is no warranty of Fractint's suitability for any purpose, nor any
  acceptance of liability, express or implied.

   **********************************************************************
   * Contribution policy: Don't want money. Got money. Want admiration. *
   **********************************************************************

  Source code for Fractint is also freely available - see Distribution of
  Fractint (p. 169).  See the FRACTSRC.DOC file included with the source
  for conditions on use.  (In most cases we just want credit.)

(Digression: This document is actually generated from Fractint's online
hypertext help.  All the hypertext links have been transformed into
page numbers.  This is a nice feature I wish I had for printing HTML,
and haven't seen anywhere else.)

But this isn't the most interesting part.  What's interesting is what's
happening now on the [e-mail] list.

Fractint has the ability to, among other things:
- - use user-defined formulas (interpreted at runtime) to generate fractals;
- - parametrize fractal types;
- - apply different coloring methods and sets of colors to a particular image;
- - zoom, pan, rotate, etc., of course.
- - save all the parameters necessary to generate a particular image in a
compact text form and load them later.

What's happening now is that people are sharing code like you wouldn't
believe.  People who haven't written a line of code in their lives,
artsy people!  (Mathy people too, of course.  :)  One person will post
a neat formula and some sets of parameters that bring out nice features
of it; another person will post some other sets of parameters that
bring out other nice features; a third person will find a nicer way to
color the second person's work.

This is really amazing to me -- although I guess it's natural.  Cooks
have always done this with recipes.

What next?

Kragen


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Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 23:31:45 -0400 (EDT)
From: [e-mail] (Kragen)
Subject: Re: (fractint) Netscape lines

On Wed, 22 Apr 1998, Peter Gavin wrote:
> Nowadays, most people have at least partly up to date mail clients,
> and anything written since... umm, well, a long time ago supports
> attachments.  Why don't we all just embed them like so?  I would much
> much much prefer clicking an attachment and saving it to disk than
> opening notepad, copying, pasting, saving, etc.  In fact, I'm so lazy,
> I don't like viewing the pars/frms off the list because of that.
> Embedding them would solve all these problems, like extra lines, too.

If you do this, I'd prefer it myself if you would also include the pars
in the body of your message.  I have to go through several extra
keystrokes to view attachments, and my mailer does not run on the same
machine my Fractint does, so I have to cut and paste anyway.  (Or
worse, ftp.)

Kragen


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