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fractint-digest        Thursday, April 2 1998        Volume 01 : Number 153




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Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 10:47:18 -0600
From: Felix <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Long calculation times...

Shauna Jones wrote:

> Not needed. I can already do that with DOS Fractint under
> OS/2. You should be able to do the same thing under NT. I
> don't know about W95.

Don't forget Xfractint - running in the *original* multitasking environment...

In win95 you can run (dos)fractint in the background and it will generate fractals,
but fractint can't handle switching video modes like that and when you go to view
the image it'll be screwy.

 --Andrew

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Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 11:50:26 -0500
From: Jack Valero <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Male vs Female?

At 04:26 PM 01/04/98 PST, Paul Derbyshire wrote:
>Sylvie Gallet wrote:
>>   Yes, I'm female.
>
>Suspected as much from the style of your work. Besides I've never ever
>ever seen a male named Sylvie or Sylvia. Sylvain seems to be the male
>version. They all come from the root Sylv meaning "of the woods"...

Okay- I'll bite. Within the context of fractal/algorithmic art what
distinguishes the style of a female from that of a male? And would
the work of a "gay" fractal artist look different yet again?

Personally, I can never tell the sex of the artist by viewing their
work (some days I'm so confused, I even have to check myself while in
the shower!) Margaret and I both play with fractals and sometimes
we have to check the image notation files because we can't remember
who did what- never mind the ones upon which we collaborate.

I can see final production influenced by temperment, mood, intellectual
stance, talent, experience or peer pressure but by sex?

I'd be quite interested in how you perceive the fractal image
differences produced by the sexes. Anyone else notice these
differences?
Regards - Jack

visit our fractal gallery: http://www.globalserve.net/~jval/phractal.html

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Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 12:28:38 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (fractint) Wizmaps.par

    Hi all; Thanks Wizzle, for the colormaps you posted. I had no
trouble reading .maps in the .par format.  My first time too.  The only
slight inconvenience
is that you can't access them from the editor that way, but that's no big
deal.
    Great to see a preview of what you're collecting! This is going
to be exciting.
One slight problem with a few of them: Linda12 and Gallet01,09,10 got to
me with
the 0'th register set white instead of black, so that the whole boundary
of my screen
shows up white.  Annoying. Easy for me to fix in the editor, but I don't
think it's a
good idea to include maps in fractint that have that property. Perhaps
something
got screwed up in transit, and that's not how they were supposed to be?
I know it
is somewhat videocard dependent, but with mine I get really annoying
white lines
running diagonally through the screen with thoxse maps, as well as the
white border.
    I always make a point never to edit the 0'th register of a .map,
but
always keep it black.
     Hmmmm....

Jonathan Wolfe, Ph.D
SkyDyes
2917 Campus Blvd. NE
Albuquerque, NM 87106
(505)-266-1468

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Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 12:45:56 -0600 (CST)
From: Nhan H Nguyen <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Arbitrary Precision ^(-1)

Jiho Kim,

there is a way to zoom out. when you have your pic press "z" to go to the
parameter menu where you input numbers. Next, press f6 to enter another
menu, which I forgot the name of. You can edit the centering and zoom
factors and other things. Zoom will be called magnification I believe.
enter in a number less than 1 to zoom out, such as .5 for half or .25 for
a fourth.....etc. Hope tha helps.

- -Lav


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Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 12:28:38 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (fractint) Waaaay DEEEEEEEEEP

    Well, YES, there is a lot of interest in deep zooming, at least
by
some of us. Unfortunately, my computer is too slow to let me do the
really
deep ones, but I'd like to post a couple of fractals done by my good
friend,
also named Jonathan.
    The structure in these fractals is miraculous. Take the time to
crank them out, if you want to see something splendid. My UNM web
server's
down now, but when it's back up I'll post the images to my web site.
    Let me know what you think, if you bother to compute them - I
think
they're some of the most incredible things I've ever seen. And he's still
going,
this friend of mine. The last one I saw was at 10^178! I'll post more
sometime
if I sense the interest.

    Note to Angela: could you please snarf up these colormaps for
consideration in the collection? Thanks.

    Note to Tim: YES! We love arbitrary precision, and would LOVE to
see
what happens with SOI. It just might revolutionize deepzooming. (Then you
might
have to do something about that annoying 10^1600 limit :)...


Jonathan Wolfe, Ph.D
SkyDyes
2917 Campus Blvd. NE
Albuquerque, NM 87106
(505)-266-1468


vlernfa            { ; by Jonathan Leavitt, 1998
                     ; ~50 hours at 233 MHz
                     ; 10^93 deep
                     ; mapname is girustic
  reset=1910 type=mandel

center-mag=-1.7498797637233036250531541288085660873308706813150940739022\

160997776415279220633903858035532704437/3.711275390023365538060136900393\

27923739521658716180513365112109254521643684694157319e-15/1.676666e+093/\
  1/-115 params=0/0 float=y maxiter=11111 inside=0

colors=000GGJ<8>LLOLLPMMQNNRNOS<39>dpxdqyerzfsz<26>yyzzzzzzyzzy<45>zzczz\
  czzczycyxb<47>eHLeGLdGLcGK<31>211000000<32>GGJ
  }


hournozo           { ; by Jonathan Leavitt, 1998
                     ; ~34 hours at 233 MHz
                     ; 10^76 deep
                     ; mapname is verica
  reset=1910 type=mandel

center-mag=-1.7494731962100301093025521422405488627568109828713567987988\

6197663174423971559038/4.65032129863512237555970979220949188044571977348\
  3014616191461119829263616e-9/8.944236e+075/1/-97.499 params=0/0
  float=y maxiter=6666 inside=0

colors=000hkm<22>zzhzzhzyh<21>uieuhetgdtfdsfdred<36>WPbVObVObVOb<61>65E5\

4D54D43C43B<9>116115004003002000000000<13>00M00O00O<57>dgmehmehmfimgimhj\
  m
  }



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Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 15:34:43 -0500
From: Sylvie Gallet <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Male vs Female?

Hi Jack,

>> Personally, I can never tell the sex of the artist by viewing their
>> work

  Ditto for me.  Bot sexes are capable of making great images or on the
contrary ugly ones.  I can give some names <vbg!>.....

        - Sylvie

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Date: Thu, 02 Apr 98 17:31:08 +0700
From: "Rob Fargher" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Re: fractint-digest V1 #152

On Thu, 2 Apr 1998 09:35:35 -0700, fractint-digest wrote:

Bob Carr--(Ocala, FL) said:
>>This may be another strong point for making FRACTINT a Windows program.

causing
>Wizzle <[e-mail]> to say:
>I tried to say the same thing in different words some time ago. I think it
>is more important to bring Fractint into the multi-tasking environment than
>anything, especially since many of us are moving to NT.

  I would really regret seeing Fractint move away from its current generic
base.  I run OS/2 and multi-task Fractint wonderfully in the background.  Bob,
making Fractint a Win app would bloat it and increase its platform specificity,
neither being desirable outcomes IMHO.

  Wizzle, if Fractint ever becomes solely a Win32 app, I will fly my flag at
half-mast.  However, if someone was to port the DOS code to Win32 and
produce an NT specific version, that would be excellent.

  I harbour a secret hope that when DOS dies, Fractint moves to Linux as
its primary platform! :-)

Cheers,
Rob


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Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 17:43:45 -0500
From: Peter Jakubowicz <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Hardware Problems

Hi,
    Sorry, I deleted yr message asking about Fractint and my new graphics
card, Andrew, who says cereal is gOOd, I can't remember the last name. This
is my problem: Windows programs run swimmingly (e.g., JuliaSaver really
rocks), DOS ones do not either in DOS or in under Win95. When I ran the
diagnostics program that Sylvie Gallet kindly sent to me, it reported the
best I cld do w/ DOS programs is 640x480x256, and that seems to be correct.
I don't know how to fix this, but I wld like to very much, as I quite like
Fractint. Has anyone had much experience w/ that SciTech Screen Doctor
thing (it comes w/ that DOS utility called UniVBE, but I can't make it do
whatever it is supposed to do)? It comes in a trial version, and it has
interesting effects  on yr monitor, when like me, you don't know what you
are doing. What I want to do is run Fractint under Win95 at high rez (so I
can finally see some of Sylvie Gallet's images in all their glory, among
other things :)) I suppose it must be possible. Does anyone know how to do
this with Screen Doctor, and also what happens when the trial runs out --
am I then back where I started; the thing costs $50. Sorry, about the long
message, but I am very unhappy about not being able to run Fractint on my
new computer :( Also, just to give you an idea of my graphics know-how:
when someone says you need a new driver, I really don't know that means.
The card comes w/ a CD that installs Windows drivers; I see nothing about
DOS. Any advice from a guru wld be really appreciated (pls send to me
personally).
thank you




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Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 17:58:16 -0500
From: "Peter Gavin" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Male vs Female?

I agree that far as fractals go, because of their tendency to transcend any
differences between drawers/authors/artists, you really can't tell; however,
there are subtle differences in the way female and male (normal paint and
pencil) artists' works come out.  I find that female artists have more
feeling in their work, but male artists have more shallow meanings.  Men
tend to show symbolism via many different events, ideas, and objects, but
women focus on one thing, and find deeper meaning in that object/idea.
There is a biological basis for this as well.  Women have been shown to
produce a hormone that subconsciously and biologically attaches them to
their mate, but men are more into the "wham, bam, thank you ma'am" method :)
I mean, they have a biological tendency to move from mate to mate, probably
evolved in order to increase the chance of our race's continuation.  (I
really don't think that factor is really needed anymore, though.. :) )

|Okay- I'll bite. Within the context of fractal/algorithmic art what
|distinguishes the style of a female from that of a male? And would
|the work of a "gay" fractal artist look different yet again?



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Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 01:18:53 +0100
From: Ray Girvan <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Male vs Female?

Jack Valero <[e-mail]> writes:

> Within the context of fractal/algorithmic art what distinguishes the
> style of a female from that of a male?
> ...
> I can see final production influenced by temperment, mood, intellectual
> stance, talent, experience or peer pressure but by sex?

Clare (i.e. Mrs Girvan) says my fractals have a "male" flavour, as I
tend to like Gigeresque biomorphs and gloomy metallic/sepia palettes.
 But I think that being a nasty miserable person has more to do with
this than my sex.  :)

Ray
[e-mail] +++ Technical Author +++ Topsham, Devon, UK
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/rgirvan/ +++ The Apothecary's Drawer



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Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 18:41:50 -0600 (CST)
From: [e-mail] (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson)
Subject: (fractint) A new formula

comment {
The equation in this formula has no special significance,
but it produces some pretty nice images.  All of the pars
below are for Julia sets, but this formula can also produce
Mset zooms by setting imag(p1) to zero.  The Mset of this
equation has an infinite number of baby 'Brots in it.

To Mike Traynor:  permission granted.

Paul Carlson
}

frm:Eqn_5 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998
    ; Always use float=y, outside=summ
    ;
    ; real(p1) = escape circle radius squared
    ; imag(p1) = 0 if Mset, non-zero if Julia set
    ; p2       = Julia set coordinates
    ; real(p3) = number of color ranges
    ; imag(p3) = number of colors in a range
    ;
    z = iter = range_num = bailout = 0
    IF (imag(p1) != 0)
        w = pixel
    c = p2
    ELSE
    w = 0
        c = pixel
    ENDIF
    prev_modw2 = 1.0e20
    rad2 = real(p1)
    num_ranges = real(p3)
    colors_in_range = imag(p3)
    colors_in_range_1 = colors_in_range - 1
    :
    w2 = w * w
    w = c * (1 - w2) / (1 + w2)
    ;
    IF ((prev_modw2 < rad2) * (|w| > rad2))
    bailout = 1
    index = colors_in_range_1 * (rad2 - prev_modw2) / rad2
    z = index + range_num * colors_in_range + 1
    ENDIF
    prev_modw2 = |w|
    range_num = range_num + 1
    IF (range_num == num_ranges)
    range_num = 0
    ENDIF
    iter = iter + 1
    z = z - iter
    bailout == 0
}


eqn5j01            {; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=eqn5.frm
  formulaname=Eqn_5 passes=1
  center-mag=0/0/0.6666667
  params=1/1/1/0/8/30
  float=y maxiter=252 inside=253 outside=summ
  colors=0000CC<15>0zz<12>0CC00O<14>FFwGGzFFw<11>00OSA`<14>e\
  NxfOzeNw<10>K2OO08<15>z0f<12>R0BO08O00<15>z88<11>R11c40<14\
  >vS0xU0wT0<12>c40aG0<14>xw0zz0yw0<11>aG00C4<15>0zR<12>0C40\
  00<13>000
  }

eqn5j02            {; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=eqn5.frm
  formulaname=Eqn_5 passes=1
  center-mag=0/0/0.6666667
  params=4/1/2.45/0/8/30
  float=y maxiter=252 inside=253 outside=summ
  colors=000c40<14>xU0zW0yU0<11>c40aG0<14>xw0zz0yw0<11>aG00C4\
  <15>0zR<12>0C40CC<15>0zz<12>0CC00O<14>FFwGGzFFw<11>00OSA`<1\
  4>eNxfOzeNw<10>K2OO08<15>z0f<12>R0BO08O00<15>z88<12>O00000<\
  13>000
  }

eqn5j03            {; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=eqn5.frm
  formulaname=Eqn_5 passes=1
  center-mag=-1.61755/0.889447/7.751938
  params=0.5/1/2.5/0/8/30
  float=y maxiter=252 inside=253 outside=summ
  colors=0000C4<15>0zR<12>0C40CC<15>0zz<12>0CC00O<14>FFwGGzFF\
  w<11>00OSA`<14>eNxfOzeNw<10>K2OO08<15>z0f<12>R0BO08O00<15>z\
  88<11>R11c40<14>vS0xU0wT0<12>c40aG0<14>xw0zz0yw0<11>aG0000<\
  13>000
  }

eqn5j04            {; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=eqn5.frm
  formulaname=Eqn_5 passes=1
  center-mag=0/0/0.6666667
  params=2/1/2.45/0/8/30
  float=y maxiter=252 inside=253 outside=summ
  colors=000O00<15>z88<12>O00c40<14>xU0zW0yU0<11>c40aG0<14>xw\
  0zz0yw0<11>aG00C4<15>0zR<12>0C40CC<15>0zz<12>0CC00O<14>FFwG\
  GzFFw<11>00OSA`<14>eNxfOzeNw<11>I0KO08<15>z0f<12>O08000<12>\
  000O08
  }

eqn5j05            {; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=eqn5.frm
  formulaname=Eqn_5 passes=1
  center-mag=-1.47233/0/0.8021475/1/90
  params=2/1/3/0/8/30
  float=y maxiter=252 inside=253 outside=summ
  colors=0000CC<15>0zz<12>0CC00O<14>FFwGGzFFw<11>00OSA`<14>eN\
  xfOzeNw<10>K2OO08<15>z0f<12>R0BO08O00<15>z88<11>R11c40<14>v\
  S0xU0wT0<12>c40aG0<14>xw0zz0yw0<11>aG00C4<15>0zR<12>0C4000<\
  13>000
  }

eqn5j06            {; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=eqn5.frm
  formulaname=Eqn_5 passes=1
  center-mag=-6.88338e-015/5.32907e-015/0.3868824
  params=1/1/1/0.5/8/30
  float=y maxiter=252 inside=253 outside=summ
  colors=0000CC<15>0zz<12>0CC00O<14>FFwGGzFFw<11>00OSA`<14>eN\
  xfOzeNw<10>K2OO08<15>z0f<12>R0BO08O00<15>z88<11>R11c40<14>v\
  S0xU0wT0<12>c40aG0<14>xw0zz0yw0<11>aG00C4<15>0zR<12>0C4000<\
  13>000
  }

eqn5j07            {; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=eqn5.frm
  formulaname=Eqn_5 passes=t
  center-mag=-6.88338e-015/5.32907e-015/0.3868824
  params=1/1/1.8/0.5/8/30
  float=y maxiter=300 inside=253 outside=summ
  colors=000O00<15>z88<12>O00c40<14>xU0zW0yU0<11>c40aG0<14>x\
  w0zz0yw0<11>aG00C4<15>0zR<12>0C40CC<15>0zz<12>0CC00O<14>FF\
  wGGzFFw<11>00OSA`<14>eNxfOzeNw<11>I0KO08<15>z0f<12>O08000<\
  12>000O08
  }


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Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 18:41:35 PST
From: NOEL_GIFFIN <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Re: Searchable fractint documentation on www

    Hi everyone,

Paul N. Lee, sent me some html code a while back to access the altavista
search engine from the fractint webpages. I played around with it for
a while and spent some more time adding document keywords via meta-tags
within the fractint pages. It uses both keywords and document text
as well as anchors and url's to produce a list of links from a
simple search string. It still seems a little inconsistent and
unpredictable with its searches, but I think it is still a useful tool.

 I've added the search form to the bottom of the fractint index page at:

    http://spanky.triumf.ca/www/fractint/findex.html

    Cheers,
    Noel Giffin

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Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 18:58:35 -0800
From: Wizzle <[e-mail]>
Subject: re: (fractint) Paul Derbyshire's nuclear pars

Or try WordPad which comes with Win95. Wordpad is a sort of larger version
of Notepad.

At 01:49 AM 4/2/98 -0800, you wrote:
>James R Mackenzie wrote:
>> I've crashed my system twice already trying to
>>copy/paste your megapost to a notepad text file.
>>I tried Wordperfect too.  No dice. <8-(
>
>
>Try downloading Programmer's File Editor- it's
>free, simple to use, works great.  I think this is the URL
>http://www.lancs.ac.uk/people/cpaap/pfe/
>

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Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 19:16:57 -0800
From: Wizzle <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Male vs Female?

My observations about men/women fractals are as follows (obviously they are
generalizations)

1.  Women seem to go more for a "carved" and 3 dimensional image. Many men
seem to be perfectly happy with a flatter image if the underlying math is
interesting.
2.  Guys seem to prefer more saturated color maps. I was discussing this
issue off-list with skydye and we speculated that you might be able to see
a difference by sex in the color maps submitted. I couldn't, but I do see
more tints and tones in the pars posted by the ladies.

Angela aka wizzle

At 05:58 PM 4/2/98 -0500, you wrote:
>I agree that far as fractals go, because of their tendency to transcend any
>differences between drawers/authors/artists, you really can't tell; however,
>there are subtle differences in the way female and male (normal paint and
>pencil) artists' works come out.  I find that female artists have more
>feeling in their work, but male artists have more shallow meanings.  Men
>tend to show symbolism via many different events, ideas, and objects, but
>women focus on one thing, and find deeper meaning in that object/idea.
>There is a biological basis for this as well.  Women have been shown to
>produce a hormone that subconsciously and biologically attaches them to
>their mate, but men are more into the "wham, bam, thank you ma'am" method :)
>I mean, they have a biological tendency to move from mate to mate, probably
>evolved in order to increase the chance of our race's continuation.  (I
>really don't think that factor is really needed anymore, though.. :) )
>
>|Okay- I'll bite. Within the context of fractal/algorithmic art what
>|distinguishes the style of a female from that of a male? And would
>|the work of a "gay" fractal artist look different yet again?
>
>
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Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 21:32:55 -0600
From: Lavondyss <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: Searchable fractint documentation on www

NOEL_GIFFIN wrote:

>         Hi everyone,
>
> Paul N. Lee, sent me some html code a while back to access the altavista
> search engine from the fractint webpages. I played around with it for
> a while and spent some more time adding document keywords via meta-tags
> within the fractint pages. It uses both keywords and document text
> as well as anchors and url's to produce a list of links from a
> simple search string. It still seems a little inconsistent and
> unpredictable with its searches, but I think it is still a useful tool.
>
>  I've added the search form to the bottom of the fractint index page at:
>
>         http://spanky.triumf.ca/www/fractint/findex.html
>

thanx N.G.


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Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 22:49:56 -0500
From: "Peter Gavin" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Male vs Female?

Me especially...  I don't spend much time with colormaps, just the patterns
in the images.  I have one colormap I use for most of my images, and I
change it when I bored with it.  I do change it to make it look better, but
only when the situation demands :)

Pete

> Many men seem to be perfectly happy with a flatter image if the underlying
math is interesting.



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Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 19:49:15 PST
From: "Paul Derbyshire" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) The end of DOS is on the horizon

>http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,20947,00.html
>"Gates targets end of Windows 98"
> - he describes that Win98 is the last DOS-based OS

Hey! This URL is bogus, man. What gives?

>3)  Is there Fractint-engine work going on, akin to POV-RAYs?

POV-Ray? Something's new in POV-land?

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Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 19:50:13 -0800 (PST)
From: Jiho Kim <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Arbitrary Precision ^(-1)

Now that I've tried, I can say for sure (almost) that Fractint doesn't
like numbers above 2^15.  If you put in a magnification less than 2^-15,
it'll just change it to 2^-15 (about 3.052e-005).  The par I posted last
time is zoomed out to around this range (if not there already).

Nhan, but thank you for telling me about the menu.  It's a handy thing to
know.

Still querying,

Jiho



On Thu, 2 Apr 1998, Nhan H Nguyen wrote:

> Jiho Kim,
>
> there is a way to zoom out. when you have your pic press "z" to go to the
> parameter menu where you input numbers. Next, press f6 to enter another
> menu, which I forgot the name of. You can edit the centering and zoom
> factors and other things. Zoom will be called magnification I believe.
> enter in a number less than 1 to zoom out, such as .5 for half or .25 for
> a fourth.....etc. Hope tha helps.
>
> -Lav
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Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 19:52:59 PST
From: "Paul Derbyshire" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Paper and Windows

Oh, I see, you're weighing 500 sheets at once! <g>

Netcom is still spamming? Shame...

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Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 19:57:52 PST
From: "Paul Derbyshire" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (fractint) The end of DOS is on the

>the actual address is:
>
>http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,20497,00.html

Oh...thanks :-)

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Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 20:05:34 PST
From: "Paul Derbyshire" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Paul Derbyshire's Nuclear pars

>Paul,
>
>Will you please send me your Nuclear "goodies" in a ZIP file, I've
>crashed my system twice already trying to copy/paste your megapost to
>a notepad text file.  I tried Wordperfect too.  No dice. <8-(

Notepad blows chunks. (It came from Bill Gates, what do you expect?)
Have you tried using PFE32? http://www.lancs.ac.uk/people/cpaap/pfe
(hey! There's a new version... must download... <g>)

If that still doesn't work, drop me a line and I'll send it as an
attachment on private email.

>I know this'll be a pain in the ass but I really do want them all and
>this is "THE" only way I'm gonna be able to get them.

Not if PFE32 works :)

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Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 20:09:15 PST
From: "Paul Derbyshire" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Copywright and common sense

Lavondyss writes...and writes... andwrites...

We, the jury, find the defendant guilty of over-quoting! :-)

>Lavondyss is just a name just like Michael or George or Paul. What's
>in a name anyways?

It's a real name, not someort of handle?

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Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 20:23:45 PST
From: "Paul Derbyshire" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Long calculation times...

>In win95 you can run (dos)fractint in the background and it will
generate fractals,
>but fractint can't handle switching video modes like that and when you
go to view
>the image it'll be screwy.

Or it'll simply crash! :-)

Say, why does Shauna sign off with "Another blast of bits from David"...
or is it David signing on with "Shauna Jones"?

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Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 20:27:42 PST
From: "Paul Derbyshire" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Male vs Female?

I dunno. It's mostly subconscious I guess. I get a vague impression
women may pay more attention to color, and use softer color tones or
earth tones more frequently and brighter colors and large contrasts less
frequently...

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Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 20:41:50 PST
From: "Paul Derbyshire" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Hardware Problems

Peter: The Date & Time control panel in W95 is your friend <vbg>

So are your autoexec.bat and "date.com".


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Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 20:53:05 PST
From: "Paul Derbyshire" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Contest images webpage

http://www.fractalus.com/contest/contest.htm

There are more broken images than working ones on this page... what
gives?
I get a broken image icon for each of the following:
alxndr3.gif, akelley2.gif, cindym2.gif, david_2.gif, david_3.gif,
dmj-01.gif, dmj-02.gif, dmj-03.gif, dsigner1.gif, dsinger2.gif,
dsinger3.gif, dlo190c.gif, dl0190d.gif, dl0190g.gif, emartin1.gif,
emartin2.gif, emartin.gif, ericm_1.gif, ericm_2.gif, ericm_3.gif,
estherh1.gif, estherh2.gif, estherh3.gif, geoffs2.gif, geoffs3.gif,
gedeon1.gif, gedeon2.gif, gedeon3.gif,gmarson1.gif, gmarson2.gif,
gmarson3.gif, graphic1.gif, graphic2.gif, graphic3.gif, jacco1.gif,
jacco2.gof, jacco3.gif, jayhill1.gif, jayhill2.gif, jayhill3.gif,
jimmuth1.gif, jimmuth2.gif, jimmuth3.gif, joliver1.gif, joliver2.gif,
joliver3.gif, roema_1.gif, roema_2.gif, roema_3.gif, joyce1.gif,
joyce2.gif, joyce3.gif, jjf_1.gif, jjf_2.gif, jjf_3.gif, justin1.gif,
justin2.gif, justin3.gif, k_moe_1.gif, k_moe_2.gif, k_moe_3.gif,
kmitchl1.gif, kmitchl2.gif, kmitchl3.gif, kolasa1.gif, kolasa2.gif,
kolasa3.gif, lindaa01.gif, lindaa02.gif, lindaa03.gif, malliso1.gif,
malliso2.gif, malliso3.gif, miket-1.gif, miket-2.gif, miket-3.gif,
mlnewst1.gif, mlnewst2.gif, mlnewst3.gif, msager_1.gif, msager_2.gif,
msager_3.gif, mvalero1.gif, mvalero2.gif, mvalero3.gif, pkloeg1.gif,
pkloeg2.gif, pkloeg3.gif, paullee1.gif, paullee2.gif, paullee3.gif,
peter_1.gif, peter_2.gif, peter_3.gif, preslar1.gif, preslar2.gif,
preslar3.gif (the winners!!), rbarnet1.gif, rbarnet2.gif, rbarnet3.gif,
rttyman1.gif, rttyman2.gif, rttyman3.gif, sgallet1.gif, sgallet2.gif,
sgallet3.gif, skinner1.gif, skinner2.gif, skinner3.gif, stclair1.gif,
stclair2.gif, stclair3.gif, trmoe-1.gif, trmoe-2.gif, trmoe-3.gif,
ton_k1.gif, ton_k2.gif, ton_k3.gif, valero_1.gif, valero_2.gif,
valero_3.gif, vrch78b1.gif, vrch78b2.gif, and vrch78b3.gif.
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