ftp.xmission.com/2014.06.ftp.xmission.com.tar/ftp.xmission.com/pub/lists/fractint/archive/v01.n152

Internet Message Format | 1998-04-01 | 41KB

From: [e-mail] (fractint-digest)
To: [e-mail]
Subject: fractint-digest V1 #152
Reply-To: fractint-digest
Sender: [e-mail]
Errors-To: [e-mail]
Precedence: bulk


fractint-digest        Thursday, April 2 1998        Volume 01 : Number 152




----------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 20:07:23 -0500
From: [e-mail] (F Cat)
Subject: (fractint) fractal domain names

I think it was this list that had this discussion about registering
fractal domain names. "As of Wednesday, April 1, InterNIC (the group that
registers domain names) will be lowering its prices by 30%. Registering
your domain name will now cost only $70".

_____________________________________________________________________
You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail.
Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com
Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]


- -
- ------------------------------------------------------------
Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List
Post Message:   [e-mail]
Get Commands:   [e-mail] "help"
Administrator:  [e-mail]
Unsubscribe:    [e-mail] "unsubscribe fractint"

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 20:57:49 EST
From: Genealogy1 <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Long calculation times...

Some 3 or 4 years ago when I was using WINFRACT with Windows 3.1, I could
minimize the program and continue with other computer doings. The calculations
would continue. There was 1 occasion when WINFRACT took 1 week to finish an
image yet I had my Computer to use for other things.

The point I'm trying to make is if FRACTINT were a Windows program and you
didn't mind leaving your computer turned on 24 hours a day (without monitor at
times), you could see time consuming images. If you wish to leave the fractint
minimized, you could bring up a 2nd copy of the program and even use it while
the 1st was working.

This may be another strong point for making FRACTINT a Windows program.

- --Bob Carr--(Ocala, FL)

- -
- ------------------------------------------------------------
Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List
Post Message:   [e-mail]
Get Commands:   [e-mail] "help"
Administrator:  [e-mail]
Unsubscribe:    [e-mail] "unsubscribe fractint"

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 1 Apr 98 18:21:27 -0800
From: Tim Gilman <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) The end of DOS is on the horizon

Some Humor and some questions:

Humor:
http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,20947,00.html
"Gates targets end of Windows 98"
 - he describes that Win98 is the last DOS-based OS

Questions:
1)  I'm hacking at a Macintosh port 'cause Fractint rules (and I dig
Macs).  Are there any "gotchas" I should know about, maybe from someone
who has mucked with the X-port?   For some details, I'm using the XFRACT
code base until I get the Mac GUI stuff worked out (menus, mouse,
keyboard, video; all working & translated into Fractint-understandable
code); then I'll switch bases to the FRACTINT-base & attempt to remove &
replace the DOS (& x86 ASM) specific stuff w/ appropriate Mac (& PPC ASM)
code.
2)  I'd poop joy if FRACTINT has robust command-line support, such that a
user could pass *.par files & all the other goodies w/o actually touching
the FRACTINT menus.  Can someone clue me in as to how robust the
command-line support is?
3)  Is there Fractint-engine work going on, akin to POV-RAYs?

That's it!

- -=Tim Gilman, [e-mail]



Tim Gilman                                              Rhapsody BlueBox
[e-mail]                                   Apple Computer, Inc.


- -
- ------------------------------------------------------------
Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List
Post Message:   [e-mail]
Get Commands:   [e-mail] "help"
Administrator:  [e-mail]
Unsubscribe:    [e-mail] "unsubscribe fractint"

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 18:58:06 -0800
From: Wizzle <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Paper and Windows

Bob...

I tried to say the same thing in different words some time ago. I think it
is more important to bring Fractint into the multi-tasking environment than
anything, especially since many of us are moving to NT.

Regarding weight of paper. The paper I use for printing output from my
puter (I have a very cheap HP printer) is 24 pounds. 20 lb paper is a
pretty good quality paper. I think really fine stationary is about 36 lbs.
That is a measure of the weight of 10 (I believe) reams of paper. A ream is
more or less 500 sheets of paper.

Angela

At 08:57 PM 4/1/98 EST, you wrote:
>Some 3 or 4 years ago when I was using WINFRACT with Windows 3.1, I could
>minimize the program and continue with other computer doings. The
calculations
>would continue. There was 1 occasion when WINFRACT took 1 week to finish an
>image yet I had my Computer to use for other things.
>
>The point I'm trying to make is if FRACTINT were a Windows program and you
>didn't mind leaving your computer turned on 24 hours a day (without
monitor at
>times), you could see time consuming images. If you wish to leave the
fractint
>minimized, you could bring up a 2nd copy of the program and even use it while
>the 1st was working.
>
>This may be another strong point for making FRACTINT a Windows program.
>
>--Bob Carr--(Ocala, FL)


- -
- ------------------------------------------------------------
Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List
Post Message:   [e-mail]
Get Commands:   [e-mail] "help"
Administrator:  [e-mail]
Unsubscribe:    [e-mail] "unsubscribe fractint"

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 20:45:27 -0600
From: "Paul N. Lee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Missing person?

Peter Jakubowicz wrote:
>
> BTW, w/ my new video card, Diamond Fire GL 1000 Pro,
> i am only able to run Fractint at 640x480 and at
> 1600x1200 disk ram mode.  is running it at higher
> rez hopeless.
>

Here's a website for all kinds of drivers for all kinds of operating
systems:

   http://www.driverupdate.com/

P.N.L.

- -------------------------------------------------
     Why do most folks hate cynics so much?
       Because we're almost always right.
- -------------------------------------------------
http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/PNL_Fractals.html

- -
- ------------------------------------------------------------
Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List
Post Message:   [e-mail]
Get Commands:   [e-mail] "help"
Administrator:  [e-mail]
Unsubscribe:    [e-mail] "unsubscribe fractint"

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 20:51:22 -0600 (CST)
From: [e-mail] (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson)
Subject: (fractint) Another variety of Newton formula

comment {
Here's a formula that uses the Newton's method solution
of z^k - 1 = 0 in such a way that makes it easy to get a
wide variety of 3D effects.  The 6 pars demonstrate some
of the effects possible using just k = 3.  This is a good
formula to experiment with.

(This actually isn't a Newton's method formula since I
don't check for convergence, but I do use the Newton's
method equations.)

To Mike Traynor: Thanks for the comments - I appreciate
them.  Your server is still rejecting email from Netcom.

Paul Carlson
}

frm:Newton_3Way {; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998
    ; Newton's method solution of w^k - 1 = 0
    ; Always use float=y, outside=summ
    ;
    ; real(p1) = escape circle radius squared
    ; imag(p1) = k (exponent of w)
    ; p2       = relaxation factor
    ; real(p3) = number of color ranges
    ; imag(p3) = number of colors in a range
    ;
    z = iter = range_num = bailout = 0
    w = pixel
    prev_modw2 = 1.0e20
    rad2 = real(p1)
    k = imag(p1)
    km1 = k - 1
    num_ranges = real(p3)
    colors_in_range = imag(p3)
    colors_in_range_1 = colors_in_range - 1
    :
    w = w - p2 * ((w^k) - 1) / (k * (w^km1))
    ;
    IF ((prev_modw2 < rad2) * (|w| > rad2))
    bailout = 1
    index = colors_in_range_1 * (rad2 - prev_modw2) / rad2
    z = index + range_num * colors_in_range + 1
    ENDIF
    prev_modw2 = |w|
    range_num = range_num + 1
    IF (range_num == num_ranges)
    range_num = 0
    ENDIF
    iter = iter + 1
    z = z - iter
    bailout == 0
}

nwt3way1           { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=newt3way.par
  formulaname=newton_3way passes=1
  center-mag=-2.22045e-016/1.38778e-016/3.205128/1/-29.998
  params=1/3/2/0/2/125
  float=y maxiter=1000 inside=253 outside=summ
  colors=000zqa<59>OJ7G00<63>z880M8<58>090OJ7<62>zqa000<3>000
  }

nwt3way2           { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=newt3way.par
  formulaname=newton_3way passes=1
  center-mag=-0.00649553/0.00528143/3.770592/1/-29.998
  params=1/3/1/0/8/30
  float=y maxiter=256 inside=253 outside=summ
  colors=0000C4<15>0zR<12>0C40CC<15>0zz<12>0CC00O<14>FFwGGzFFw<\
  11>00OSA`<14>eNxfOzeNw<10>K2OO08<15>z0f<13>O08O00<15>z88<11>R1\
  1c40<12>sP0uQ0vS0xU0wT0<12>c40aG0<15>zz0<12>aG0000<13>000
  }

nwt3way3           { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=newt3way.par
  formulaname=newton_3way passes=1
  center-mag=-0.00649553/0.00528143/3.770592/1/-29.998
  params=1/3/0.5/0.5/8/30
  float=y maxiter=1000 inside=253 outside=summ
  colors=0000C4<15>0zR<12>0C40CC<15>0zz<12>0CC00O<14>FFwGGzFFw<\
  11>00OSA`<14>eNxfOzeNw<10>K2OO08<15>z0f<13>O08O00<15>z88<11>R1\
  1c40<12>sP0uQ0vS0xU0wT0<12>c40aG0<15>zz0<12>aG0000<13>000
  }

nwt3way4           { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=newt3way.par
  formulaname=newton_3way passes=t
  center-mag=0.0900214/-0.157822/0.04014196/1/150
  params=1/3/2.2/0/2/125
  float=y maxiter=252 inside=253 outside=summ invert=1/0/0
  colors=0000C4<15>0zR<12>0C40CC<15>0zz<12>0CC00O<14>FFwGGzFFw<\
  11>00OSA`<14>eNxfOzeNw<10>K2OO08<15>z0f<13>O08O00<15>z88<11>R1\
  1c40<12>sP0uQ0vS0xU0wT0<12>c40aG0<15>zz0<12>aG00C4<9>0zR000<2>000
  }

nwt3way5           { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=newt3way.par
  formulaname=newton_3way passes=t
  center-mag=-0.00649553/0.00528143/0.5748885/1/-29.996
  params=0.7/3/0.3/0.3/8/30
  float=y maxiter=256 inside=253 outside=summ
  colors=0000C4<15>0zR<12>0C40CC<15>0zz<12>0CC00O<14>FFwGGzFFw<\
  11>00OSA`<14>eNxfOzeNw<10>K2OO08<15>z0f<13>O08O00<15>z88<11>R1\
  1c40<12>sP0uQ0vS0xU0wT0<12>c40aG0<15>zz0<12>aG0000<13>000
  }

nwt3way6           { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1996
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=newt3way.par
  formulaname=newton_3way passes=t
  center-mag=0.0900214/-0.157822/0.04014196/1/150
  params=1/3/0.5/0.5/2/125
  float=y maxiter=252 inside=253 outside=summ
  invert=1/0/0
  colors=000U22<123>z88WRF<123>zqa000<3>000
  }



- -
- ------------------------------------------------------------
Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List
Post Message:   [e-mail]
Get Commands:   [e-mail] "help"
Administrator:  [e-mail]
Unsubscribe:    [e-mail] "unsubscribe fractint"

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 21:01:00 -0600
From: Trevor Fast <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (fractint) The end of DOS is on the

the actual address is:

http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,20497,00.html

 ----------
From:  fractint
Sent:  Wednesday, April 01, 1998 8:34 PM
To:  Fractint List
Subject:  (fractint) The end of DOS is on the hori

Some Humor and some questions:

Humor:
http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,20947,00.html
"Gates targets end of Windows 98"
 - he describes that Win98 is the last DOS-based OS

Questions:
1)  I'm hacking at a Macintosh port 'cause Fractint rules (and I dig
Macs).  Are there any "gotchas" I should know about, maybe from someone
who has mucked with the X-port?   For some details, I'm using the XFRACT
code base until I get the Mac GUI stuff worked out (menus, mouse,
keyboard, video; all working & translated into Fractint-understandable
code); then I'll switch bases to the FRACTINT-base & attempt to remove &
replace the DOS (& x86 ASM) specific stuff w/ appropriate Mac (& PPC ASM)

code.
2)  I'd poop joy if FRACTINT has robust command-line support, such that a

user could pass *.par files & all the other goodies w/o actually touching

the FRACTINT menus.  Can someone clue me in as to how robust the
command-line support is?
3)  Is there Fractint-engine work going on, akin to POV-RAYs?

That's it!

 -=Tim Gilman, [e-mail]



Tim Gilman                                              Rhapsody BlueBox
[e-mail]                                   Apple Computer, Inc.


 -
 ------------------------------------------------------------
Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List
Post Message:   [e-mail]
Get Commands:   [e-mail] "help"
Administrator:  [e-mail]
Unsubscribe:    [e-mail] "unsubscribe fractint"


- -
- ------------------------------------------------------------
Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List
Post Message:   [e-mail]
Get Commands:   [e-mail] "help"
Administrator:  [e-mail]
Unsubscribe:    [e-mail] "unsubscribe fractint"

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 19:32:44 -0800
From: Wizzle <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Colormap Par

Jay suggested I post colormaps both as a zipped file consisting of
colormaps (format filename.map) and as pars. I'm not too sure of my skills
with color pars. Please help me out here. This is my first set of colormaps
in the par format.  Let me know if they work for you. These are what I call
the 1-2-3 maps.....maps with a limited number of colors which are great to
clean up a busy image. If I have the methodology right, I will post the
rest of the maps at my website.

Thanks to you all


carlson1_map       {
    colors=000zW0<93>d50d50d50d50d50d50<24>d50GGz<123>00O000<3>000
  }

droz12_map         {
    colors=000<4>E70G80J90LA0NB0<3>SE0TE0TE0UF0<3>RD0QD0OC0NB0<2>G80E70B5084\
  0<2>000<4>LA0PC0SE0VF0YH0<2>dK0fL0gM0gM0hM0gM0gM0<2>bJ0`I0YH0VF0SE0<2>H8\
  0D60840420000<3>MB0SE0XG0aJ0eL0<2>oQ0rR0tS0uT0vT0wU0<2>tS0rR0oQ0lO0iN0eL\
  0aJ0<2>MB0H80B50520000<4>UL0ZP0cS0hV0lY0p`0sb0ud0xf0yg0zg0zh0<2>xf0ud0sb\
  0p`0lY0<2>ZP0UL0OH0<3>000<2>IE0OJ0UN0ZR0cV0hZ0la0pd0sg0ui0xj0yl0zl0zm0zl\
  0yl0xj0ui0sg0pd0la0<2>ZR0UN0OJ0<3>000<3>OK0UO0ZT0cX0h`0lc0pf0si0uk0xm0yn\
  0zo0zo0<2>xm0uk0si0pf0lc0h`0cX0ZT0<5>000<2>IF0OL0UP0<2>ha0le0ph0sk0um0xo\
  0yp0zq0zr0<2>xo0um0sk0ph0le0<2>ZU0UP0OL0<3>000<3>OM2UR3ZV4c_4hc5lg5pj6sm\
  6up6xr7ys7zt7zt7<2>xr7up6sm6pj6lg5<2>ZV4UR3OM2<2>650
  }

droz34_map         {
    colors=000P00<52>W0yW0zV0y<42>G0GP00<49>VVyWWzWVz<46>P0zG0W<29>iijkkkjij\
  <22>P1Z
  }

droz35_map         {
    colors=000aJ0<45>zzWfSG<14>cWGcWHdXH<29>zzWfbG<26>oq2pr2op2<16>fO0eM0eL0\
  dK0<25>HC7GC8EE8GCCECEICA<29>PHFQIGSKH<14>zzW<25>WG0zz0<4>SOO
  }

droz49_map         {
    colors=000<17>79b89d8Ae<4>9BmACoACpACq<6>CExCExCEyCEyCEz<7>CEyCEyCEyCExB\
  EwBEw<5>ACpACoACn9Bl9Bk9Ai<7>67W57U56R<5>23E22C12A117115003000001<9>4BO5\
  CQ5DS6EU6FW6GY<4>8Kf8Lh9Mj9Mk9NmAOn<3>BQsBRtBRuBRv<2>CTxCTyCTyCTzCTzCTzC\
  TzCUz<3>CTzCTyCTyCTxBSx<4>BQsAQrAPqAOp<6>8Je7Jc7Ia7H_6GY<10>25A148126013\
  011000<7>7FJ8GL9INAKPALRBNU<6>HYfHZhI_iI`kJbl<4>MgsMgtMhuNivNjwNjwOkx<4>\
  OlzOlzOlzOlzOlzOlz<3>OkxOkxNjwNiv<6>KcoJbmJalI`jI_i<7>COVBNTALR9JP<9>012
  }

droz54_map         {
    colors=000<3>O0OU0UZ0Zc0ch0hl0lp0ps0su0ux0xy0yz0zz0z<2>x0xu0us0sp0pl0l<2\
  >Z0ZU0UO0O<3>000<3>O2OU3UZ4Zc4ch5hl5lp6ps6su6ux7xy7yz7zz7z<2>x7xu6us6sp6\
  pl5l<2>Z4ZU3UO2O<3>000<3>O7OU9UZBZcCchEhlFlpGpsHsuIuxJxyJyzJzzKz<2>xJxuI\
  usHspGplFl<2>ZBZU9UO7O<3>000<3>OCOUFUZIZcKchMhlPlpRpsSsuUuxVxyVyzWzzWz<2\
  >xVxuUusSspRplPl<2>ZIZUFUOCO<3>000<3>OGOUKUZNZcQchUhlWlpZps`subuxcxydyze\
  zzez<2>xcxubus`spZplWlhUhcQcZNZ<5>000<2>IEIOJOUNUZRZcVchZhlalpdpsgsuiuxj\
  xylyzlzzmzzlzylyxjxuiusgspdplal<2>ZRZUNUOJO<3>000<4>UQUZVZcZchbhlflpipsl\
  sunuxpxyryzrzzszzrzyryxpxunuslspiplfl<2>ZVZUQUOLO<3>000<3>OOOUUUZZZccchh\
  hlllpppsssuuuxxxyyyzzzzzz<2>xxxuuusssppplll<2>ZZZUUUOOO<2>666
  }

droz56_map         {
    colors=00081C<47>`1C72C<48>`2C72C<48>`2C73C<48>`3C74C<48>`4C75C<4>A5C
  }

droz62_map         {
  colors=000055<97>z55055<98>z55065<54>Z65
  }

gallet01_map       {
    colors=uut<6>vvtwwuwwt<9>wwgwwfwvevud<4>tqZtpYsoXsnVrmUrmT<21>eT6eS5eS5<\
  29>O31N20O41N20<10>Q72R82R82S93TA3<14>gQ5hR5iS4<3>mW3nX2nX2nY2<6>rc0rc0r\
  b0<4>pZ1pY1oX2nX2<11>aL4`K4ZI3<2>UG3SG4QF4OF5ME5<2>GC6DB7DB7<74>ssrttstt\
  stts<5>uus
  }

gallet02_map       {
  colors=000zzz<78>FFFwzw<21>bhdbhdagc`gc`fb<10>T_WSZVSZVSZV<12>PVQOUPOUPN\
  TONTN<10>HNGHMFGLEFKDFJC<6>AF5EF0<30>`XJaYKaYKaYL<28>nj_nj_ok`ola<12>xuk\
  669000<12>000
  }

gallet03_map       {
  colors=000A00<22>SD9TE9UFAUGAVHA<21>reMwww<48>555F00<15>YHB_JC_KC<30>zt`\
  rrr<48>AAAK00<48>wmU000<3>000
  }

gallet07_map       {
  colors=974<15>630630741<12>DB8EB8EB9EB9FCA<74>lkjlkjmlknml<10>vvtwwuwwt<\
  13>wwfvvdwwc<27>eT5eS3dR2cP0cP0<29>S75R66R66R66<26>K11J11J11I00I00<6>E00\
  E00E10D21<3>A63974974974
  }

gallet08_map       {
    colors=936<2>44925A25A<123>wwzwwzvvy<117>H33H23G22F22<2>A35
  }

gallet09_map       {
    colors=wvy<10>npqmopmopmop<8>fjieihdhgcgfbgf<3>ZdbZdbYcaYcaXb`<2>VaZU`YU\
  `YU`Y<12>OVSOVSOVSOVSOUR<68>000wwc<19>kbFkaEj`DiZBiZBhYA<12>aM2`L1`L1`K1\
  <10>WE3WD3WC3VB4UB4<5>S75R66R66R66<26>K11J11J11I00I00<30>000
  }

gallet10_map       {
  colors=zzz<83>000zrf<83>111zmm<49>c3Ic2Hb1Ga1G<29>211000000
  }

linda11_map        {
  colors=000<14>UUU222<14>XXX444<11>SSSUUUXXX___666<10>SSSUUUXXX___bbb888<\
  9>SSSUUUXXX___bbbeeeAAA<8>SSSUUUXXX___<2>hhhCCC<7>SSSUUUXXX___<3>kkkEEE<\
  6>SSSUUUXXX___<4>nnnGGG<5>SSSUUUXXX___<5>qqqIII<4>SSSUUUXXX___<6>tttKKK<\
  3>SSSUUUXXX___<5>qqqtttuuuMMM<2>SSSUUUXXX___<5>qqqtttuuuvvvOOOQQQSSS<8>q\
  qqtttuuuvvvwwwQQQSSS<8>qqqtttuuu<2>xxxSSS<8>qqqtttuuu<3>yyyUUU<7>qqqtttu\
  uu<4>zzz
  }

linda12_map        {
  colors=xn_<29>RL7QK6QK7QL9<2>UQHVSKXUO<9>los<9>788<3>222000001<10>21D22E\
  22F23G23I<7>37R37S48U58W<4>7Cd8De8De<29>T_wT_wSZv<28>AFe9Ed8Dc7Cb7B`<11>\
  12H01F01F<13>014003001001<13>los<13>SNCQL9QL9QL8QK7<26>vlYxn_xn_xn_
  }

morgen3_map        {
  colors=000<125>yW0yW0yW0yW0yX0<74>yy4yy4zz5zz6<46>zzz
  }

wizzl011_map       {
  colors=C0C5PP<60>czzczzbyy<52>1LLUF0<54>zzrzzrzyq<66>WI3VH2VG1UF00KK<2>1\
  LL1LL2MM2NN<2>4OO
  }

wizzl012_map       {
  colors=0000M9<31>0mU0mU0lT<44>0B1<4>02G00K00K<44>0Jy0Kz0Ky<37>91MA0KC0F<\
  2>L00<22>w00<35>H00F00C20<2>0A0<13>0L8
  }

wizzl013_map       {
  colors=000FFU<72>ttzttzssy<50>FFPUA0<56>zzmzzmzyl<65>UA1K00K10
  }



- -
- ------------------------------------------------------------
Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List
Post Message:   [e-mail]
Get Commands:   [e-mail] "help"
Administrator:  [e-mail]
Unsubscribe:    [e-mail] "unsubscribe fractint"

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 20:00:08 -0800
From: Wizzle <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) F.O.T.N. (Fractal of the Night) 1 Apr 1998 (Bwwwaaahaahahahaha!)

At 04:06 PM 3/31/98 -0800, you wrote:
>
>F.O.T.N. (Fractal of the Night) 1 Apr 1998 (Bwwwaaahaahahahaha!)
>
<<snipped>>

I have to admit I'm a Dr. J fan and have been following his adventures
since Christmas or thereabouts. My problem is that I don't get to tune in
as often as I'd like. The new forward and back guides on each page are
great but I typically find myself embroiled in the latest adventure then
going backwards to catch up. Could there maybe be a start page for each
month so I could go forward with Dr. J??? He is confusing enough!!!! Love
those mad scientists!!

Angela

- -
- ------------------------------------------------------------
Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List
Post Message:   [e-mail]
Get Commands:   [e-mail] "help"
Administrator:  [e-mail]
Unsubscribe:    [e-mail] "unsubscribe fractint"

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 17:54:26 -0800 (PST)
From: "James R. McKenzie" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Paul Derbyshire's Nuclear pars

Paul,

Will you please send me your Nuclear "goodies" in a ZIP file, I've
crashed my system twice already trying to copy/paste your megapost to
a notepad text file.  I tried Wordperfect too.  No dice. <8-(

I know this'll be a pain in the ass but I really do want them all and
this is "THE" only way I'm gonna be able to get them.


                         T H A N K    Y O U



                         James R. McKenzie



                         [e-mail]





_________________________________________________________
DO YOU YAHOO!?
Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com


- -
- ------------------------------------------------------------
Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List
Post Message:   [e-mail]
Get Commands:   [e-mail] "help"
Administrator:  [e-mail]
Unsubscribe:    [e-mail] "unsubscribe fractint"

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 22:14:17 -0600
From: Lavondyss <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Copywright and common sense

Paul Derbyshire wrote:

> Sylvie Gallet wrote:
> >   Yes, I'm female.
>
> Suspected as much from the style of your work. Besides I've never ever
> ever seen a male named Sylvie or Sylvia. Sylvain seems to be the male
> version. They all come from the root Sylv meaning "of the woods"...
>
> Lavondyss (WTF is a lavondyss anyways? :-)) wrote:
> >I thought I was right about Sylvie. Someone thought you were male. He
> >could have been assuming all fractineers are male...
>
> Aaaaaaaaaaa! Gak! *Ptoooie*!
> That word sounds too much like "engineers" for my tastes...
> :-)
>
> >I just found a printing shop here (Kinko's Copy)...
>
> With a name like that, I suggest you verify with them that they don't
> specialize in something other than fractals first... <g>
>
> >The paper they would be using the the 20lb plain white paper.
>
> What the... is this company specializingin posters for weight lifters? I
> haven't met a piece of paper that weighed more than 5 grams, sopping
> wet, unless it was unbelievably huge (butcher-wrap rolled for half a
> klick across a schoolyard being drawn on by kids, etc...)
> Have you got your measuring units right? 20lb is about 40kg, or about
> half the amount your computer monitor weighs! (Unless you have a really
> huge one or a laptop.)
>
> -- Paul [Definitely not a 'geer!]
>
>    .*.  "Clouds are not spheres, mountains are not cones, coastlines are not
> -()  <  circles, and bark is not smooth, nor does lightning travel in a
>    `*'  straight line."     ------------------------------------------------
>         -- B. Mandelbrot   | Paul Derbyshire (PGD) [e-mail]
> ______________________ ____|_____________          [e-mail]
> Programmer & Humanist |  ICQ:  10423848  | http://chat.carleton.ca/~pderbysh
>
> ______________________________________________________
> Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
>
> -
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List
> Post Message:   [e-mail]
> Get Commands:   [e-mail] "help"
> Administrator:  [e-mail]
> Unsubscribe:    [e-mail] "unsubscribe fractint"

  Kinko's is a cool place to print for a fair price. The paper weight is
calculated in cubic feet I think. I'm not sure. Anyone know for certain. The
good ones are around 30lb and up such as glossy and matted(coated) paper. 20lb
is normal. I've checked them out Paul, they's cool.

Lavondyss is just a name just like Michael or George or Paul. What's in a name
anyways?

- -Lav


- -
- ------------------------------------------------------------
Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List
Post Message:   [e-mail]
Get Commands:   [e-mail] "help"
Administrator:  [e-mail]
Unsubscribe:    [e-mail] "unsubscribe fractint"

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 22:14:21 -0600
From: Lavondyss <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Fractal printing.

Thanx for answering Damien,

I thought it was an absolutely wonderful deal. I'm currently searching for a
glossy poster style printing shop. I'm sure I'll have to pay an arm and a leg for
them. I'm having a friend do a dye sublimation print only at 8 1/2 X 11 though.
But I'd love to see it though. I hope everything works out. I'm gonna have the
poster printed tomorrow. Gotta install my Spaq 1.0 Gig removeable drive to store
all my fractals and MP3's.

- -Lav


- -
- ------------------------------------------------------------
Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List
Post Message:   [e-mail]
Get Commands:   [e-mail] "help"
Administrator:  [e-mail]
Unsubscribe:    [e-mail] "unsubscribe fractint"

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 21:05:52 -0800
From: "Jay Hill"<[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Long calculation times...

Bob Carr wrote:

>>The point I'm trying to make is if FRACTINT were a Windows program and
you
didn't mind leaving your computer turned on 24 hours a day (without monitor
at
times), you could see time consuming images. If you wish to leave the
fractint
minimized, you could bring up a 2nd copy of the program and even use it
while
the 1st was working.
This may be another strong point for making FRACTINT a Windows program.<<

Not needed, you can do Fractint calculations in background now very nicely.
See my Contest Construction Kit(TM) for examples of how to set up batch
files to
do the whole contest, ~150 images, in background.

Jay
http://home.san.rr.com/jayrhill/




- -
- ------------------------------------------------------------
Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List
Post Message:   [e-mail]
Get Commands:   [e-mail] "help"
Administrator:  [e-mail]
Unsubscribe:    [e-mail] "unsubscribe fractint"

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 21:18:09 -0800
From: "Jay Hill"<[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Colormap Par

wizzle wrote

>>Jay suggested I post colormaps both as a zipped file consisting of
colormaps (format filename.map) and as pars. I'm not too sure of my skills
with color pars. Please help me out here. <<

I checked a few, looks good.

Jay



- -
- ------------------------------------------------------------
Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List
Post Message:   [e-mail]
Get Commands:   [e-mail] "help"
Administrator:  [e-mail]
Unsubscribe:    [e-mail] "unsubscribe fractint"

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 21:26:58 -0800
From: "Jay Hill"<[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) F.O.T.N. (Fractal of the Night) 1 Apr 1998  (Bwwwaaahaahahahaha!)

wizzle wrote

> Could there maybe be a start page for each
> month so I could go forward with Dr. J??? He is confusing enough!!!!
> Love those mad scientists!!

Thanks

There is an up arrow going to the index. I usually post a link to the
latest and to the index.
http://home.san.rr.com/jayrhill/FotN/FotNindx.html


Jay



- -
- ------------------------------------------------------------
Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List
Post Message:   [e-mail]
Get Commands:   [e-mail] "help"
Administrator:  [e-mail]
Unsubscribe:    [e-mail] "unsubscribe fractint"

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 19:29:46 -1000
From: "Shauna Jones" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Long calculation times...

On  1 Apr 98 at 20:57, Genealogy1 wrote:

> The point I'm trying to make is if FRACTINT were a Windows program and you
> didn't mind leaving your computer turned on 24 hours a day (without monitor at
> times), you could see time consuming images. If you wish to leave the fractint
> minimized, you could bring up a 2nd copy of the program and even use it while
> the 1st was working.
>
> This may be another strong point for making FRACTINT a Windows program.

Not needed. I can already do that with DOS Fractint under
OS/2. You should be able to do the same thing under NT. I
don't know about W95.

Another blast of bits from David
Visit our not-so-boring web page: http://www.aloha.net/~shauna/
Visit the Hawaii Astronomical Society: http://www.hawastsoc.org/
For the best Hawaii & Pacific Basin surf forecast: mailto:[e-mail]

Random Thought for this Nanosecond
A clean desk is a sign of a cluttered desk drawer.



- -
- ------------------------------------------------------------
Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List
Post Message:   [e-mail]
Get Commands:   [e-mail] "help"
Administrator:  [e-mail]
Unsubscribe:    [e-mail] "unsubscribe fractint"

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 01:06:49 -0500
From: "Peter Gavin" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Long calculation times...

You can do it, but you hafta save all your images in disk-vid, which can
really be a pain, especially if you have a bunch you want done at once.  I
like to do mine in disk-vid while I'm working, but at night, I'd rather have
regular video so I can see the progress, since I wouldn't bee using it for
anything else.  Problem is, fractint wont let you change that during a batch
run, it'll render it in the mode it was last saved in.

Pete

/*  begin reply

Not needed. I can already do that with DOS Fractint under
OS/2. You should be able to do the same thing under NT. I
don't know about W95.

end reply  */



- -
- ------------------------------------------------------------
Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List
Post Message:   [e-mail]
Get Commands:   [e-mail] "help"
Administrator:  [e-mail]
Unsubscribe:    [e-mail] "unsubscribe fractint"

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 03:02:18 -0500
From: Sylvie Gallet <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Missing person?

>> Obviously the first is a shortcut key, the second an arbitrary name =

>> string, and the 4f02, 11C, 1600, 1200, and 256 have obvious =

>> correspondences to the vesa2cfg output.

  Right.

>>  But where the bleeding hell do  you get the two zeros, the 28, and
>> "OK:=3D" from? With that additional  information anyone can fix up
>> their fractint.cfg...

  All the fractint.cfg have these two zeros.  For the 28, read the fracti=
nt
doc.  "OK:=3D" is a comment.

>> >  I can email vesa2cfg.zip to anyone interested, just ask.
>>
>> Even better would be to simply post the URL...

  Vesa2cfg is provided by Oliver Fromme, the author of the DOS viewer QPV=
,
with his shareware but it is not available separately.  The small zip fil=
e
(9K) just includes the executable and the doc.

        - Sylvie

- -
- ------------------------------------------------------------
Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List
Post Message:   [e-mail]
Get Commands:   [e-mail] "help"
Administrator:  [e-mail]
Unsubscribe:    [e-mail] "unsubscribe fractint"

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 01:42:34 -0800 (PST)
From: Jiho Kim <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Arbitrary Precision ^(-1)

To those who know the workings of Fractint,

I'm aware that there is a limit to zoom in in Fractint, although
practically unreachable.  1600 digits, right?  Well, is there such a
provision made for zooming out?  I mean, can you have a windows that has
one corner at [10^1500 + 10^1500 i] and the opposite one at the origin?


Wave2              { ; Public Domain
                     ; By Jiho Kim on April 1, 1998
                     ; [e-mail]
  reset=1960 type=tim's_error function=log passes=1
  center-mag=0/0/3.05176e-005/1.333333/90 params=0/0
  float=y maxiter=2147483647 bailout=6 bailoutest=real inside=maxiter
  potential=255/255/0
  colors=00000e0e00eee00e0eee0eee00L00z0eL0eze0Le0zeeLeez0L00Le0z00zeeL0eL\
  eez0eze0LL0Lz0zL0zzeLLeLzezLezzL00L0eLe0Leez00z0eze0zeeL0LL0zLeLLezz0Lz0\
  zzeLzezLL0LLeLz0LzezL0zLezz0zzeLLLLLzLzLLzzzLLzLzzzLzzzazz<9>izzjzzkzzkz\
  zlyzlyy<5>pxxpwxqwxrvxrvw<2>tuwttvutvusuvsu<2>vpswpsworworxnq<4>zlozknzj\
  mzilzik<2>zgjzfizehzdgzdg<12>yUYxUXxTWwSVwSV<13>qHKpGJpFIpFIoEHnEG<7>jAC\
  i9Bh8Ag79f79<3>d57c57b46a46a35<3>Y23X23W13V13U12<4>Q01Q00P00P00O00<4>L00\
  K00J10I10I10<3>E10E10D10D10C21<10>664564575575<7>1B91CA1DA1EB1EC<2>1GD1H\
  E1IF1JG1JG<12>0TQ
  }
(Sorry about the long color, but I wasn't sure if you'll see the same
thing I see if I erased it.)


This is the par of the fractal with which I wanted to zoom out more than
Fractint would let me.  The limit is 2^15 and I suppose that's natural,
but, can it be extended to 2^(arbitrarily large number)?

I was wondering about the possibility of self-similiarity out into
infinity.  Can one zoom out forever and find similarities to the original?
Does it exist? (I'm not sure if I've found one, since I can't zoom out
anymore and my fractal math is atrociously primative.) I've never heard of
it even considered, probably because the Mandelbrot set is limited to a
certain distance from the origin and the its self-similiarities tend to
the infinitisimal.

I'm not sure if there has been any research done into these types of
fractals (if they really exist).  But, I can't think of any reason why
there couldn't be such fractals.  If this is a path that has already been
trod, please excuse my ignorance, but if it's a new idea, what does
everyone think?

I'm not even close to being qualified to comment on the programming side
of this issue, so would appreciate any feedback on the possibility of
extending the range of Fractint's zooming capabilities.


Regards,


Jiho Kim
=========================
[e-mail]
http://www.plu.edu/~kimjd




- -
- ------------------------------------------------------------
Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List
Post Message:   [e-mail]
Get Commands:   [e-mail] "help"
Administrator:  [e-mail]
Unsubscribe:    [e-mail] "unsubscribe fractint"

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 01:49:05 -0800
From: kathy roth <[e-mail]>
Subject: re: (fractint) Paul Derbyshire's nuclear pars

James R Mackenzie wrote:
> I've crashed my system twice already trying to
>copy/paste your megapost to a notepad text file.
>I tried Wordperfect too.  No dice. <8-(


Try downloading Programmer's File Editor- it's
free, simple to use, works great.  I think this is the URL
http://www.lancs.ac.uk/people/cpaap/pfe/


- -
- ------------------------------------------------------------
Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List
Post Message:   [e-mail]
Get Commands:   [e-mail] "help"
Administrator:  [e-mail]
Unsubscribe:    [e-mail] "unsubscribe fractint"

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 05:45:07 -0500
From: davides <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Copywright and common sense

At 04:26 PM 4/1/98 PST, you wrote:
Greetings:

>With a name like that, I suggest you verify with them that they don't
>specialize in something other than fractals first... <g>

Kinko's is an all purpose copy shop, specializing in nothing. This is not
to say what they would do re: fractal poster would not be acceptable.

>What the... is this company specializingin posters for weight lifters?

20lb bond is the standard for normal usage paper. Wizzle mentions 22lb and
36lb; 24lb is usually considered the finer paper in different types, such
as vellum, text, linen, laid, etc. The "pound" is the weight of the paper
per unit measurement which depends on precut size, kind, qty. A ream is 500
sheets. It is possible to obtain, e.g.: a case of 23 x 35 60lb offset
vellum which weighs less than a case of 50lb 23 x 35 50lb text (of sorts),
or, better example, a case of 1200 sheets of 23 x 35 70 felt text weighing
less than a case 750 sheets of 23 x 35 65lb felt cover stock. BTW, in spare
time I run a printing press....   :) Sorry for off topic..

[e-mail]
Back up my hard drive?
How do I put it in reverse?

- -
- ------------------------------------------------------------
Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List
Post Message:   [e-mail]
Get Commands:   [e-mail] "help"
Administrator:  [e-mail]
Unsubscribe:    [e-mail] "unsubscribe fractint"

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 09:55:03 -0500
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (fractint) March '98 par collection

Les St. Clair wrote:



>> Wow! what a bumper par month!

>> I have just place the collected pars for March on my fractal web site
      at:


>> http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Les_StClair/

Les,

Thank you very much for collecting these and making them available on your
web site. It is much appreciated!

Nick



- -
- ------------------------------------------------------------
Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List
Post Message:   [e-mail]
Get Commands:   [e-mail] "help"
Administrator:  [e-mail]
Unsubscribe:    [e-mail] "unsubscribe fractint"

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 10:30:28 -0500
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (fractint) Paper weights

Paul Derbyshire wrote:

>>> What the... is this company specializingin posters for weight lifters?
I
haven't met a piece of paper that weighed more than 5 grams, sopping
wet, unless it was unbelievably huge (butcher-wrap rolled for half a
klick across a schoolyard being drawn on by kids, etc...)
Have you got your measuring units right? 20lb is about 40kg, or about
half the amount your computer monitor weighs! (Unless you have a really
huge one or a laptop.) <<<
See the following URL for an explanation of the rather confusing subject of
paper weights:
<http://www.sendit.com/mformat/WEIGHT.HTML>

Also, Kinko's is a large, well known chain here in the U.S.

Nick
[e-mail]



- -
- ------------------------------------------------------------
Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List
Post Message:   [e-mail]
Get Commands:   [e-mail] "help"
Administrator:  [e-mail]
Unsubscribe:    [e-mail] "unsubscribe fractint"

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 10:34:51 -0600
From: Felix <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Missing person?

Peter Jakubowicz wrote:

> ... w/ my new video card, Diamond Fire GL 1000 Pro, i am only able to run
> Fractint at 640x480 and at 1600x1200 disk ram mode.

Peter-    Please post if you have success with the various VESA solutions from
this list.  I am about to buy the same card and would like to know of any VESA
difficulties before purchasing.  (It should work just fine, but the idea of
fractint in 640x480 is frightening...)thanks
  -Andrew


- --
| Andrew Duhan    |  Cereal is g00d   |
| [e-mail]  |   ICQ 10363110    |
| http://chimera.acs.ttu.edu/~aduhan/ |



- -
- ------------------------------------------------------------
Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List
Post Message:   [e-mail]
Get Commands:   [e-mail] "help"
Administrator:  [e-mail]
Unsubscribe:    [e-mail] "unsubscribe fractint"

------------------------------

End of fractint-digest V1 #152
******************************