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Date: Mon, 05 Jan 1998 06:08:13 -0500
From: davides <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Quartz formula

At 09:19 AM 1/4/98 +1100, you wrote:

Whoops - should have written instead of: Bessel-2 I added:  (after the "{"
; Bessel2

Bessel-2 I added:  (after the "{"  ; Bessel-2

Difference being the dash betwixt Bessel and 2.


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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 07:03:23 -0500
From: George Martin <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Quartz formula

Beth wrote:

>
QuartzM2C { ; Mandelbrot set 2 sliced diagonally
    z=1:
    a=z*z
    b=z*a
    c=z*b
    z=(pixel+p1)*(3*c-4*b-6*a+12*z)+(pixel-p1),
    |z|<=127}

Could someone please tell me, to use this formula, which is the part to be
saved in a frm file? All, or just from z down?
<

Beth, you save the whole thing, starting with the "Q" in QuartzM2C (which
is the name of the formula) and ending with the "}", which marks the end of
the formula.

>
Also, having saved a frm, Fractint prompts for parameters. How do you feed
info from par file to the pars screen?
<

Not sure I understand your question, but the way to change parameters while
a par image is drawing is to hit "z", which brings up the parameter screen.

George Martin

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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 08:58:19 -0500 (EST)
From: [e-mail] (Paul Derbyshire)
Subject: Re: (fractint) Quartz formula

>
>QuartzM2C { ; Mandelbrot set 2 sliced diagonally
>    z=1:
>    a=z*z
>    b=z*a
>    c=z*b
>    z=(pixel+p1)*(3*c-4*b-6*a+12*z)+(pixel-p1),
>    |z|<=127}
>
>Could someone please tell me, to use this formula, which is the part to be
>saved in a frm file? All, or just from z down?

Hey that's mine:)

Save the whole thing in a .frm file.

>Also, having saved a frm, Fractint prompts for parameters. How do you feed
>info from par file to the pars screen?

Save the above in quartz.frm and read in the par with the @ command.
It will find the formula and use it without difficulty.


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Date: Mon, 05 Jan 1998 08:02:45 -0800
From: Mark Christenson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Introduction

Hi, folks!   I'm a rookie on this list so forgive me for any faux pas
(oh, shi-oot, what's the plural?  I don't speak French!)

Do all formulae have to be expressed in terms of Z, or can I separately
process real and imaginary components?  Or better yet, write all eq's
explicitly (outside of the normal complex number processing)?  Most
of my good ones generated by my own program) are mangled poly's.


Thanks, Bud
www.hooked.net/~mchris/fractals.htm



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Date: Mon, 05 Jan 1998 08:05:44 -0800
From: Mark Christenson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Introduction/typo

*** sorry for the redundant msg, but I goofed the first time ***

Hi, folks!   I'm a rookie on this list so forgive me for any faux pas
(oh, shi-oot, what's the plural?  I don't speak French!)

Do all formulae have to be expressed in terms of Z, or can I separately
process real and imaginary components?  Or better yet, write all eq's
explicitly (outside of the normal complex number processing)?  Most
of my good ones (generated by my own program) are mangled poly's.


Thanks, Bud
www.hooked.net/~mchris/fractals.htm



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Date: Mon, 05 Jan 1998 10:56:49 -0600
From: "Damien M. Jones" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Introduction

Bud,

 - Do all formulae have to be expressed in terms of Z, or can I separately
 - process real and imaginary components?

It's best to use "z" because FractInt looks at z to check for periodicity.
If you don't use z anywhere in your formula, FractInt sees that z is in a
tight periodic loop (all zeroes) and bails out early.

If you want to calculate the real and imaginary values separately, you'll
just have to write the formula to run that way.  It's a little cumbersome,
but can be done.

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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 17:08:05 -0500
From: Sylvie Gallet <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) 3D Balls Julia, a par

Hi All,

  Here is a par using one of Paul Carlson's great formulas:

  sg_3DBJ_01         { ; .                                    t=3D =

2:34:01.27
                     ; Copyright Sylvie Gallet, Jan 05, 1998
                     ; <sylvie [e-mail]>
                     ; t=3Dcalc time using a Pentium 166 at 1600 x 1200
  reset=3D1960 type=3Dformula formulafile=3Dtest.frm
  formulaname=3D3D_Balls_Julia passes=3D1
  center-mag=3D-4.44089e-016/-8.88178e-016/0.3114353/1/-96.438/-5.869
  params=3D-0.402/0.8/0.1/5/7/32 float=3Dy maxiter=3D511 inside=3D0
  outside=3Dsumm periodicity=3D0
  colors=3D000KKK<14>aaacccdddfffggg<11>zzzKKK<30>zzz05F<14>6Sf7Uh9Vh<13>=
crr\
  D00<14>c01e02e12<13>rK5KKK<30>zzzKKK<30>zzzPKF<13>dYNeZOg`PhaQibR<12>zr=
c\
  000<29>000 cyclerange=3D161/224
  }

  Cheers,

        - Sylvie


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Date: Mon, 05 Jan 1998 19:12:43 -0500
From: davides <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Par

I believe I mentioned I should be posting a par due to a slightly off topic
post a few days ago. There is nothing complex about this one, a slight
change in one suggested parameter and using one of my color maps, but I
kind of like this one. Please direct flames to the nearest IRS office
(USA), and tax collection agency of your choice outside of the USA.

Jade               { ; Copyright (c) David Shanholtzer, 1998
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm
  formulaname=Newton_elliptic center-mag=0/0/0.6666667
  params=1/0/0.0005/0 float=y maxiter=1000 inside=maxiter outside=summ
  colors=000<15>0000FF<14>www<15>0FF000<30>000zzz<13>mRE<14>rpqsrtsqr<14>e\
  TA<15>kjl<15>0Eo<15>mmw<15>j0`<15>mmw<31>mmw<15>m0D
  }
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Date: Mon, 05 Jan 1998 19:30:30 -0500
From: Jack Valero <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Phractal update

What is it about the new year that we all feel compelled
to change things? Yep, our pages have changed too.

A few new images, but all are larger now. Mostly a new
non-linear way of viewing the pics. Highly organized
types may still view things in a systematic manner. But
now you can simply "wander" through the images. I hope
you do because different image sequences might produce
different experiences.

Take a look and tell me what you think. The old pages
still exist and are linked, but the gallery is now
essentially separated from them.

Speaking about links, if any of you would like me to
provide a link to your pages, let me know. Your pages
need only be fractal oriented and free of any
prurient or prejudicial content. Other than that,
we're an equal opportunity site :)

The old pages remain at:
http://www.globalserve.net/~jval

The gallery is now at:
http://www.globalserve.net/~jval/phractal.html

I've had a few people ask why they couldn't read other
peoples' comments. I decided to add a previous comments
page but am still not sure how I feel about this. If
I've quoted you and you'd rather I didn't, let me
know.

Oh, and I've slightly modified the old pages. If anyone
using a wide browser screen experiences problems, please
let me know.

Thanks for your time, people!
Regards - Jack

visit our fractal gallery: http://www.globalserve.net/~jval/phractal.html

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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 19:03:28 EST
From: Bill at NY <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) entering formulas

In a message dated 98-01-05 05:22:23 EST, you write:

<<
 elegance           { ; by Angela 1997 using deeps7.map
   reset=1950 type=formula formulafile=bessels.frm formulaname=BESSEL-2

 THis is the frm file, saved in notepad via edit, in order to retain
 the frm extension. Notepad will only save as txt.
 Saved as BESSELL-2.FRM in fractint


Beth -  this looks good except you have to name the frm file BESSELS.FRM since
that is what the par file is looking  for.  Or change the formulafile= to
BESSEL-2.FRM

But the formulaname agrees though, so that part is good.  (You can have more
than one formula in an FRM file.  See the difference?)
    |
    |
    V
 BESSEL-2 {
       c = z = pixel:
          z = cos(z) / z + pixel,
       |z| <= 100
 }

 >Am I right so far?
> I still get an oops message, and can't parse that formula

Change as explained and this will go away.

 >Is there a way for the pars to load automatically, or does one always type
> them in manually

See my other message to you.


One more advanced point that will make it much easier for you to play around.
Change COS in your formual to the variable fn1.  When you call up the formula
using T as I explained in the other message, you will then be able to hit Z
and change fn1 to COS or SIN or TAN or anything else without leaving Fractint
and writing another formula.

Let me know if you have any more questions.

Bill

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Date: Tue, 06 Jan 1998 02:42:18 +0100
From: [e-mail] (Guy Marson)
Subject: (fractint) smallest .frm

Hi dear Fractinters,

Got no objection against the large formulas, they produce amazing images.
But I wanna know who is able to invent the SMALLEST .frm (the letters
between the { } are counted) that produce lovely images... in combination
with the very many features of Fractint (y/x/z screens)? Good stuff for a
little contest..?

;-)

Have fun,

and a happy New Year!


Guy


Fungi for fun = FunGUY... @:-]

(Guy Marson, 45b, rue de Bettembourg, L-5810 Hesperange)
(Tel./Fax : [phone])  e-mail: [e-mail]


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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 20:56:06 EST
From: RBarn0001 <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Web Page Update

In a message dated 98-01-04 16:37:34 EST, you write:

<<  I tested with Netscape 3.0 and Explorer 4.0. I don't
 know what Explorer 3.0 or Netscape 4.0 do. What is your browser? Comments
from
 anyone else who has visited by site would be appreciated
  >>
Thanks to all of you who checked out my page for potential problems. I
appreciate the time you took and the kind comments that you made.

Ron

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Date: Mon, 05 Jan 1998 19:09:45 -0800
From: Wizzle <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Phractal update

Look Jack....

>What is it about the new year that we all feel compelled
>to change things? Yep, our pages have changed too.

Keeping up with the Joneses is one thing...but now I'm forced to keep up
with the Valero's too!!!  I'm really glad the images are larger,
though...it was my one concern. I just adore all your comments....don't
EVER change that approach. I'm envious of all your html tricks but too lazy
to learn how to do them......and flame frames.........the perfect answer to
making a 19" monitor look just like a 14" one!!!Like are we doing graphics
here or cute web tricks??? Glad you haven't succombed to the temptation to
add those 2@#$%@!!! things to your website. They only take up precious
space that is better devoted to your wonderful fractals....

Angela




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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 22:18:02 EST
From: T R Moe <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) terrible oversight

attention contest administrators!
While cleaning up my e-mail archives I discovered the following set of pars
which seem to have been submitted on time but never showed up in the contest
displays or among the par file collections made available.  I know all this
went on rather quickly and without much organization but I can't help but
think that the graphic specialist couldn't feel too good about being ignored.
I'm sorry I didn't find this soon enough to get this person included,but I'm
not that organized either,
>  Subj:     (fractint) Contest Pars
>Date:    97-12-05 08:33:42 EST
>From:    [e-mail] (Graphics Specialist)
>Sender:    [e-mail]
>Reply-to:    [e-mail]
>To:    [e-mail]


>Here are my contest pars.  They should work o.k. but if not let me
>know.  Thanks.
.

>GraphicSpecial_1   { ; [e-mail]
>                     ; Created December 05, 1997
>                     ; for fractint .par contest
>                     ;
>  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=contest4.frm
>  formulaname=contest4 passes=t center-mag=0/0/0.6666667
> params=0.0123456789/0.09876543211 float=y maxiter=179 inside=bof61
> outside=atan periodicity=0
>  >colors=aCC<13>ACCCCC<21>sCs<20>ECsCCsCEs<19>CqsCssCsq<9>CsYC.>CC<21>\
>  >sCs<20>ECsCCsCEs<19>CqsCssCsq<19>CsECsCEsE<19>qsqsssssq<19>ss>EssC\
>  sqC<19>sECsCCqCC<6>cCC cyclerange=0/255
>  savename=Graphic1.gif
>  }

>GraphicSpecial_2   { ; [e-mail]
>                     ; Created December 05, 1997
>                     ; for fractint .par contest
>                     ;
>  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=contest4.frm
>  formulaname=contest4 passes=t
>  center-mag=-1.53135373464412500/+0.00003353149660534/833.2516/1.14\
>  45/96.35/-6.599 params=0/0 float=y maxiter=180 inside=bof61
>  outside=atan
>  >colors=CCCeCe<6>sCs<20>ECsCCsCEs<16>CksCmsCmr<78>rWCsWCsUC<7>sECsCC\
>  qCC<3>iCChBChBC<93>W0WECE<12>cCc
>  savename=Graphic2.gif
>  }

>GraphicSpecial_3   { ; [e-mail]
>                     ; Created December 05, 1997
>                     ; for fractint .par contest
>                     ;
>  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=contest4.frm
>  formulaname=contest4 passes=t
>  center-mag=-1.53276508133788400/+0.00002739792896463/713.2634/1.14\
>  45/96.35/-6.599 params=0/0 float=y maxiter=250 inside=bof61
>  outside=summ
>  >colors=000<7>000000200<29>zKU<30>211000000<14>000010030<29>0z0<30>>\
>  020000000<14>000110330<29>zz0<30>220000000<21>000
>  savename=Graphic3.gif
>  }

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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 22:38:37 EST
From: T R Moe <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) sexist fractals

Does this constitute a sexist fractal?
trm-219            { ; Victoria's Secret?
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=list.frm formulaname=trm-011

  center-mag=-0.444229/-0.0375587/1.041667/1/90 float=y inside=bof60
  decomp=256
  colors=0500cQ<20>0C20A00A0<15>050bVM<2>bVMbVMcXP<3>hfcjigjig<15>f`Ve`Ue_\
  TdZSdZT<10>e`Ve`Ve`WeaX<13>llkmmmmmm<11>jgdjgdjfciebifbifb<3>ifcifcifb<5\
  9>kbR0500B00H0090050000000050<34>1H1171161030<16>0mZ<6>0dR

trm-011{
    z=c=pixel:
    z=cotanh(z)*conj(z)*tan(z)*1/z+c
    |z|<=4
    }

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Date: Mon, 05 Jan 1998 21:53:57 -0600
From: "Paul N. Lee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Phractal update

Jack Valero wrote:
>
> Yep, our pages have changed too.
> A few new images, ....
>

How many years between the combo-photos of jm.gif and the photo of
mj.jpg???   ;-}

>
> The gallery is now at:
> http://www.globalserve.net/~jval/phractal.html
>

After a few webpages, I cheated and just looked at the images from your
root directory:
                http://www.globalserve.net/~jval/fractals/

>
> Oh, and I've slightly modified the old pages. If anyone
> using a wide browser screen experiences problems, please
> let me know.
>

Didn't notice anything unusual in appearance, just a few minor text
related items (grammar and spelling).  Also, the "Top of Page" link on
the bottom of http://www.globalserve.net/~jval/isitart.htm was not
displaying (you had the color set as white on a white background).  A
couple of other little things, but the look and feel of the website is
nice!!

Later,
P.N.L.

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Date: Mon, 05 Jan 1998 20:00:33 -0800
From: Mark Christenson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Re: formulae

Damien,

At 10:56 AM 1/5/98 -0600, you wrote:
>...
>It's a little cumbersome,
>but can be done.

Thanks!  Comments and questions (on your site and other
things) to follow later, just wanted to ack your response.

Bud


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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 20:57:14 -0800
From: "Jay Hill" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) terrible oversight

He was included.  About 40% down the web page.
He is in the list of artists

>> Artists are, in no particular order, Adam Alexander, Alice M Kelley, Angela
"Wizzle" Wilczynski, Bob Margolis, Brian
>> E. Jones, Brock Kevin Nambo, Cesare Giuanuzzi, Charles F Crocker, Cindy
Mitchell, David E. Shanholtzer, Damien
>> M. Jones, Dave Kolasa, David D. Singer, Doug Owen, Ellen Martin, Eric Mull,
Esther Hill, Gedeon Peteri, Geoff
>> Stanton, Guy Marson, The Graphic Specialist,


But thanks for watching!
Jay

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> From: T R Moe <[e-mail]>
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: (fractint) terrible oversight
> Date: Monday, January 05, 1998 7:18 PM
>
> attention contest administrators!
> While cleaning up my e-mail archives I discovered the following set of pars
> which seem to have been submitted on time but never showed up in the contest
> displays or among the par file collections made available.  I know all this
> went on rather quickly and without much organization but I can't help but
> think that the graphic specialist couldn't feel too good about being ignored.
> I'm sorry I didn't find this soon enough to get this person included,but I'm
> not that organized either,
> >  Subj:     (fractint) Contest Pars
> >Date:    97-12-05 08:33:42 EST
> >From:    [e-mail] (Graphics Specialist)
> >Sender:    [e-mail]
> >Reply-to:    [e-mail]
> >To:    [e-mail]
>
>
> >Here are my contest pars.  They should work o.k. but if not let me
> >know.  Thanks.
> .
>
> >GraphicSpecial_1   { ; [e-mail]
> >                     ; Created December 05, 1997
> >                     ; for fractint .par contest
> >                     ;


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Date: Mon, 05 Jan 1998 23:07:17 -0600
From: "Paul N. Lee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) terrible oversight

T R Moe wrote:
>
> attention contest administrators!
> While cleaning up my e-mail archives I discovered the following
> set of pars which seem to have been submitted on time but never
> showed up in the contest displays or among the par file collections
> made available.
>

The thunbnail images were available from Jay's website to view for this
person, but the PARs never got included into the Contest Kit zip file.
One of those images got a single vote though.

>
> I know all this went on rather quickly and without much organization
> but I can't help but think that the graphic specialist couldn't feel
> too good about being ignored.
>

That's probably why no further postings have been seen from that email
address.

P.N.L.

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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 21:11:16 -0800
From: "Jay Hill" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) sexist fractals

Hi Thomas,

Is this a bathing suit?

There is a brace missing from the last line of the par.

Here is repost as long as I'm at it, for wizzle.  :-)
Jay

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> From: T R Moe <[e-mail]>
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: (fractint) sexist fractals
> Date: Monday, January 05, 1998 7:38 PM
>
> Does this constitute a sexist fractal?
trm-219            { ; Victoria's Secret?
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=list.frm formulaname=trm-011
  center-mag=-0.444229/-0.0375587/1.041667/1/90 float=y inside=bof60
  decomp=256
  colors=0500cQ<20>0C20A00A0<15>050bVM<2>bVMbVMcXP<3>hfcjigjig<15>f`Ve`Ue_\
  TdZSdZT<10>e`Ve`Ve`WeaX<13>llkmmmmmm<11>jgdjgdjfciebifbifb<3>ifcifcifb<5\
  9>kbR0500B00H0090050000000050<34>1H1171161030<16>0mZ<6>0dR
}

frm:trm-011{
    z=c=pixel:
    z=cotanh(z)*conj(z)*tan(z)*1/z+c
    |z|<=4
    }


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Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 00:29:31 EST
From: M1sh3l <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Zipping

Angela:My name is Michelle,and yes,I admit it,I am a NEWBIE.i only recenly got
fractint and I'm still learning how it works.I did ,however, catch your
message about needing a zipping program for windows 95.I have the 6.3
shareware version of winzip on disk if you still need it.it's really easy to
work with, and I can e-mail you and attatch the program to that.I am at
[e-mail]    (let me know if you want the program)  thanks for not making
fun of my Newbie-ness.Hey-we all gotta start somewhere,eh?

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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 21:28:58 -0800
From: "Steve Jenks" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) entering formulas

>This is the par file, exactly as saved in notepad. No spaces apart from
>those
>to the left of reset.
>Saved in fractint/pars
>
>elegance           { ; by Angela 1997 using deeps7.map

The next line is where you are telling Fractint to find the formula, =
first by filename, then by formulaname within the file.  So.... you =
should be storing your par as bessels.par

>  reset=3D1950 type=3Dformula formulafile=3Dbessels.frm =
formulaname=3DBESSEL-2
>  center-mag=3D-8.88178e-016/6.66134e-016/1.041667/1/90 float=3Dy
>  inside=3Dbof60 periodicity=3D0
>  =
colors=3D00000S<6>000<15>zzm<15>0000700F0<13>0zm<13>080040000<15>z0z<14>4=
0\
>  =
400K<15>zzz<14>44N<2>4A45D5<13>QvjSzmRwj<14>C00<15>zzm<15>0CC<12>0zz<15>\=

>  000<15>00z<7>00W
>  }
>
>
>THis is the frm file, saved in notepad via edit, in order to retain
>the frm extension. Notepad will only save as txt.

This is where you went wrong. I cut and pasted this into files as you =
described, but saved this as bessels.frm

>Saved as BESSELL-2.FRM in fractint
>
>BESSEL-2 {
>      c =3D z =3D pixel:
>         z =3D cos(z) / z + pixel,
>      |z| <=3D 100
>}
>
>Am I right so far?
>I still get an oops message, and can't parse that formula
>
>Is there a way for the pars to load automatically, or does one always =
type
>them in manually

Don't type! Cut and paste!




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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 21:34:10 -0800
From: "Jay Hill" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) terrible oversight

It is called GSpecial.par.  You sure it is not there?

I just downloaded http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Lab/3825/Contestk.zip
It is there.

Jay


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> From: Paul N. Lee <[e-mail]>
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: Re: (fractint) terrible oversight
> Date: Monday, January 05, 1998 9:07 PM
>
> T R Moe wrote:
> >
> > attention contest administrators!
> > While cleaning up my e-mail archives I discovered the following
> > set of pars which seem to have been submitted on time but never
> > showed up in the contest displays or among the par file collections
> > made available.
> >
>
> The thunbnail images were available from Jay's website to view for this
> person, but the PARs never got included into the Contest Kit zip file.
> One of those images got a single vote though.
>
> >
> > I know all this went on rather quickly and without much organization
> > but I can't help but think that the graphic specialist couldn't feel
> > too good about being ignored.
> >
>
> That's probably why no further postings have been seen from that email
> address.
>
> P.N.L.
>


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Date: Tue, 06 Jan 1998 00:19:26 -0600
From: "Paul N. Lee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) terrible oversight

Jay Hill wrote:
>
> It is called GSpecial.par.  You sure it is not there?
>
> I just downloaded http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Lab/3825/Contestk.zip
> It is there.
>

The copy that I last downloaded only had 48 PARs.  The GSpecial.par was
not in my Contest.zip file.  Maybe that was the last one added and I
downloaded before the final update.

But I do remember seeing the images on the Contest webpage along with
the PAR link for the email posting.  Others probably had a full version,
due to the fact of a vote being counted.

Oh well, that was way last year, too much time has gone by (and too many
parties).

Later,
P.N.L.

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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 23:35:54 -0800
From: "Jay Hill" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) terrible oversight

Hi guys and gals,

Sorry to be-labor this, yes GS was near the last to post
but not the last. GS posted this:

Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 05 Dec 1997 05:55:29 -0600
From: Graphics Specialist <[e-mail]>
Organization: Artist's Network
Subject: (fractint) Contest Pars

The dates I have on my machine for these files are, sorted by date

CONTESTK.ZIP     86990 12/26/97 17:27
TOPTEN97.HTM      4559 12/26/97 17:25
TOPTHREE.TXT      1464 12/26/97 17:17
[...]
JOLIVER .PAR      4563 12/06/97 00:17
JOLIVER2.GIF      2690 12/05/97 23:39
GRAPHIC3.GIF     11108 12/05/97 23:24
GRAPHIC2.GIF     20623 12/05/97 23:24
GRAPHIC1.GIF     15530 12/05/97 23:24
DMJ-03  .GIF     13439 12/05/97 23:24
DMJ-02  .GIF     22122 12/05/97 23:24
DMJ-01  .GIF      6413 12/05/97 23:24
DMJONES .PAR      3246 12/05/97 23:02
GSPECIAL.PAR      2426 12/05/97 22:55

So we have D M Jones (a repost but I don't think I saw the original),
7 minutes after GS and these: J Oliver (repost), K Mitchell (repost),
S Gallet (repost) after GS.

My ftp log shows this
97.12.06 00:13 B C:\jay\transfer\Contest\GSpecial.par --> home.san.rr.com
/Contest GSpecial.par

Finally, this file http://home.san.rr.com/jayrhill/Contest/CONTEST.ZIP
is dated 971206 08:21 according to ftp, and it contains the GS par file.

So, his material must have appeared about Dec 6.

BTW, I will make one more version of the Kit with image names
under the images.  That should make it nicer. Then it can rest
at Spanky at last.  So if there are any other remarks...please write.

Also, I would like to quote a few of the early postings by Nuke
and a few others which were the spark to start the contest.  Any
objections?

At your service,
Jay

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> From: Paul N. Lee <[e-mail]>
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: Re: (fractint) terrible oversight
> Date: Monday, January 05, 1998 10:19 PM
>
> Jay Hill wrote:
> >
> > It is called GSpecial.par.  You sure it is not there?
> >
> > I just downloaded
http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Lab/3825/Contestk.zip
> > It is there.
> >
>
> The copy that I last downloaded only had 48 PARs.  The GSpecial.par was
> not in my Contest.zip file.  Maybe that was the last one added and I
> downloaded before the final update.
>
> But I do remember seeing the images on the Contest webpage along with
> the PAR link for the email posting.  Others probably had a full version,
> due to the fact of a vote being counted.
>
> Oh well, that was way last year, too much time has gone by (and too many
> parties).
>
> Later,
> P.N.L.


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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 23:48:52 -0800
From: "Jay Hill" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Let the Judging and voting begin...

Paul,

One last shot.  Then silence....
Here is the post signaling the end of voting, about
one hour after GS posted at 12/05/97 22:55.
I uploaded the zip files 14 minutes later.

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> From: Ester <[e-mail]>
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: (fractint) Let the Judging and voting begin...
> Date: Saturday, December 06, 1997 12:07 AM
>
> Hello Fractint Artists,
>
> The contest is now over. I'm uploading the 'end of
> contest' web page.
>
> Please check it for errors.
>
> It has been real.  It has been fun.
> But it has not been real fun.
>
> NOT!
>
> It has been very good.  It has been great!
>
> Visit the page at
> http://home.san.rr.com/jayrhill/
>
> Jay
>
>
>
>
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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 22:06:04 +1100
From: "B Michie" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Happy New Year!

Dick, you write about separating the pars and the frms, and putting them
into appropriate directories. Please can you answer my question?
I am new to Fractint, but really keen to try to create some fractals from
the frms and pars other than the standard ones available in fractint. I
havae so far copied frms into fractint itself, and pars into a subdirectory
of fractint, but I have no idea how to pull them together to create an
image. I can call up the frm file, and then get a screen asking for
parameters. I don't know what to put into what box, and I thought there was
some way of entering an entire par file into fractint, but so far I can't
work it out. ANy words of wisdom will be much appreciated.
Beth


Plant real trees. Don't give me rubbish like, "I'd like
 a tall tree, but it mustn't grow above the gutters!
Oh- and the colour of the flowers mustn't clash
with the brickwork -- Spare me !@#$%^&***!

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> From: Dick Amerman <[e-mail]>
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: Re: (fractint) Happy New Year!
> Date: Friday, January 02, 1998 10:15 AM
>
>
>
> Les St Clair wrote:........
>
> > I'm going to contact CompuServe help desk to see if there's anything
that
> > can be done.
> > I hate to think of people saving my par files only to find that they
don't
> > work (yet again!) and probably thinking "what a jerk!!"
> >
> > The thing is that they alway come back to me looking OK. But when I
> > downoladed the archive of messages from
> > <http://www.xmission.com/pub/lists/fractint/> there were all those
horrid
> > <3D>'s and spurious <=>'s...arrrgh!!
>
> ...................
>
> Hi Les -- I've been following your trials and tribulations and wonder
what it's
> all about.  I don't think the problem is entirely at your end.  I get
your pars
> and run them with no editing and no problem.  I'm using Netscape's
Communicator
> 4.04, copy directly into the Programmer's File Editor, separate the
.frm's from
> the .par's, and put 'em in appropriate Fractint subdirectories.  My ISP
is an
> East Coast USA outfit called Erols, but I can't tell you what mail
software
> they use.  I've had very little problem with anybody's .par's and .frm's,
> especially since going to the PFE (thank's for the lead, Jay).
>
> Dick Amerman
>
>
>
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