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Date: Fri, 02 Jan 1998 11:47:35 -0600
From: "Damien M. Jones" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Formula Questions

Angela,

 - 1.  How big can a file of formulas be?

I'm not sure what the upper limit is, but I've got one that's 178K and
FractInt handles it fine.

 - 2.  If I change the location of the formula from
 - say....formulafile=fractint.frm ....to web1.frm and change the par
 - accordingly, will this work?

Yes.  FractInt looks first in the file specified by formulafile=, but if it
can't find the formula there, it will look through ALL the FRM files it has
for the formula.  So even if you forget to change the formulafile=, it will
still work.

 - I assume I put my formula file where fractint.exe is, right?

Put the FRM file with all the other FRM files.  If that's the directory
where FRACTINT.EXE is, then that's where it goes. :)

 - 3.  Is there a limitation on the size of par files?

Don't know about that either, the biggest in my PAR directory is 100K.
That seems to work fine.

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Date: Fri, 02 Jan 1998 13:31:52 -0600
From: "Damien M. Jones" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) 3DBalls question

Stephen.

 - Having spent some time playing with the 3DBalls frm by Paul Carson, a
 - thought struck me.  How easy is it to adapt this formula for other types?

Somewhere in the formula will be a short section which is the real fractal
calculation.  The rest is the coloring stuff.  Change the guts, and you've
got the coloring technique applied to a different fractal.  As
well-commented as Paul Carlson's formula was, I don't think you'll have any
trouble.

 - Could you use it for a Julia?

Yes, but keep in mind that you need a parameter for Julia sets (unless you
embed it in the formula).  Most of my coloring formulae use all three
parameters, leaving no room for Julia exploration. :(

 - Could you use it for the INSIDE of a Mandel?

For any type which stops iterating early, coloring the inside the same way
as the outside is automatic.  But if you're using a coloring technique
which allows iteration to proceed normally, you have to keep track of the
number of iterations and stop one iteration before maxit if you want to be
able to specify a color for inside pixels.  You also end up having to turn
periodicity off, so that FractInt itself doesn't bail out early on those
interior points.  Basically, you have to fool FractInt into thinking all
the inside pixels are outside pixels.  See any of the -I variants in my FRM
file:

    http://www.geocities.com/~fractalus/misc/dmj-pub.zip

 - could you use it to spice up relatively "monochrome" types, are the
 - possibilities really endless?

Yes, the possibilities really ARE endless!  I have 100+ variants, plus
another batch I'm working on which aren't ready for "release" yet--one of
which I posted earlier.

 - If I could understand how the damn formula works I'd have a go myself,
 - but I cant work out how the hell it works (anyone like to throw me a
 - tutorial?), so if someone with more skill than me could have a go...

OK, a basic formula in FractInt works like this:

MyFormula {
  <initialization stuff> :
  <per-iteration calculation>
  <keep-iterating test>
}

The <initialization stuff> is where you put everything that needs to only
be done once per pixel.  For example, a Mandelbrot version would include z
= 0, c = pixel and nothing else.

The <per-iteration calculation> is where you put everything that must be
done for each iteration.  Our Mandelbrot example would just be z = sqr(z) + c.

The <keep-iterating test> part is the very last statement in the formula.
If it evaluates to anything other than zero, the formula keeps iterating;
the point hasn't bailed out.  A Mandelbrot would use something like |z| <
4, which has the value 1 ("true") when |z| is less than 4, and value 0
("false") otherwise.

Now, how you turn this into a "coloring" formula is a little trickier. :)
The basic trick is that FractInt provides several coloring modes which use
not just the iteration value where a point bailed out, but also the final
iteration value.  For example, with outside=real, the outside color is
defined not just by the iteration, but by iter + real(z) + 8.  (The 8 is
the fudge factor mentioned in other posts.)  Now, if we write the formula
so it watches for when z bails out, and stuffs in a phony real(z), we can
completely control the color FractInt uses to plot any given point.

Here's a simple example.  This is a stripped-down version of
dmj-Mand-Pnt-Dst from my FRM file:

dmj-Mand-Bof60 { ; outside = real: bof60 coloring, but outside

  closest = 1e+38                  ; Closest approach so far.
  done = 0                         ; Iteration counter.

  z = 0, c = pixel:                ; Mandelbrot initialization.
  z = sqr(z) + c                   ; Mandelbrot calculation.

  done = done + 1                  ; Done one more iteration.
  d = |z|                          ; Compute distance to p1 (squared).
  IF (d < closest)                 ; Closer than previous value.
    closest = d                    ; Save the closest approach.
  ENDIF
  IF (d > 128)                     ; Point exceeds bailout.
    z = sqrt(closest) * 75         ; Apply color scale.
    z = z - done - 8               ; Return value.
    done = -1                      ; Set flag to force an exit.
  ENDIF

  done >= 0                        ; Continue if the flag is clear.
}

The basic idea behind the coloring algorithm bof60 is to determine the
closest distance the point gets to the origin.  So in the first block,
where variables used by the coloring algorithm are set up, the "closest"
distance so far is set to a huge number.  "done" is used to count iterations.

The next block is the actual fractal calculation.  The initialization stage
is completed in standard Mandelbrot fashion, and the actual iteration code
follows immediately--again, standard Mandelbrot iteration.  This formula
uses the Mandelbrot set!

In the next block, the iteration counter is updated.  Then, the distance
for the currently iterated point is computed (|z|).  If this distance is
closer than the previous closest distance, the new closer distance is saved.

The last IF is actually our bailout test.  If z is too big (remember, d is
the distance of z from the origin) then we need to bail out.  The first
thing that is done is to compute a new value for z--we are stuffing the
color value we want in here.  sqrt(closest) is what we are basing our color
on, and the 75 is an arbitrary scaling factor.  The next line takes out the
other values FractInt uses with outside=real; we don't want those items, so
the formula subtracts them and FractInt adds them, and they cancel out.
The last line in the IF sets "done" to -1, which the very last of the
formula uses to tell whether or not to bail out.

Hope this helps get your started!

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Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 14:32:24 -0500 (EST)
From: A M Kelley <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint pausing problem

I tried all the textsafe options. Textsafe=save seems to make the problem
slightly worse. Textsafe=bios locks up the computer completely.
Textsafe=yes seems to be the best option. It's still a disappointment that
my 7 year old 15" SVGA monitor has no pause whatsoever, yet the brand new
one does. That part doesn't make sense to me, since this one has to change
between the video modes, too. --Alice



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Date: Fri, 02 Jan 1998 14:57:59 -0800
From: Peter Jakubowicz <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Orchid fractals

Does anyone know alogrithms for creating *orchid fractals*, invented by
someone named Keith Still? Saw one in the new book Life's Other Secret
today by Ian Stewart, who unfortunately does not supply details beyond
their being based on modeling crowd behavior and Keith's Still's Internet
handle being Hari Seldon. It looks like it can be done in Fractint, but I'm
clueless; any help would be appreciated. Peter


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Date: Fri, 02 Jan 1998 12:19:04 -0800
From: Wizzle <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) 3DBalls question

Damien....

Geocities gave me a message saying

http://www.geocities.com/~fractalus/misc/dmj-pub.zip

does not exist.....???????

I did get to http://www.geocities.com/~fractalus/

and got distracted by both your galleries and your graphics tips.  Are the
coloring techniques for Fractint available somewhere??  Are they a plug-in???

Angela

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Date: Fri, 02 Jan 1998 14:16:45 -0600
From: "Damien M. Jones" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) 3DBalls question

Angela,

 - Geocities gave me a message saying
 -
 - http://www.geocities.com/~fractalus/misc/dmj-pub.zip
 -
 - does not exist.....???????

Question marks are indeed appropriate here; I tried it this very minute and
it worked fine.  I've attached it to a private e-mail to you.

 - I did get to http://www.geocities.com/~fractalus/
 -
 - and got distracted by both your galleries and your graphics tips.  Are the
 - coloring techniques for Fractint available somewhere??  Are they a
plug-in???

dmj-pub.zip contains the coloring techniques in a FractInt FRM file.

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Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 15:34:51 EST
From: RBarn0001 <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) DEEPER Program

In a message dated 97-12-27 19:55:04 EST, you write:

<< I'd like to try TruMand (assuming it is politically correct....and doesn't
 make any sexist fractals)....does it run under win95??

 Angela

 P.S.  I've been pondering all day....just what IS a sexist fractal??
 (pondering brought on by Beth's earlier comment)
  >>
Hi Wizzle!
Sorry for the late reply. I have been on vacation. Truemand does run under
Win95. As far as being politically correct, it merely reflects the views of
the user <g>.

Ron

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Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 15:52:37 EST
From: RBarn0001 <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Jay's variation

In a message dated 97-12-28 18:40:51 EST, you write:

<< I do think Jay managed to find a "sexist" variation on my
 image....<<<<snikker>>>>> Nice ....um....phrallic choice of colors.  I'm
 gonna have to go find a fem counterpart....I didn't know phractals could be
 so stimulating.

 Angela >>

Angela,
Check out Gallery 3 on my web site. Perhaps there are some sexist images there
- -- created with Fractint!
http:\\members.aol.com\RBarn0001

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Date: Fri, 02 Jan 1998 14:25:19 -0700
From: Rich Thomson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) another 24-bit coloring idea

I improved that textured mandel image by improving the texture
lookup quality and anti-aliasing it.  The PNG file went on a diet as a
result and dropped 75K in size.  At first it seemed a little strange
that the PNG file would decrease in size with anti-aliasing, but when
I think of the details of how PNG stores the picture data, it makes
sense.  At any rate, I think the image improved quite a bit as a
result. :)
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Date: Fri, 02 Jan 1998 17:12:36 -0500
From: Jack Valero <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) DEEPER Program

At 06:17 PM 01/01/98 -0500, Jason wrote:
>To all who haven't... I highly recommend visiting this page created by Jack
>Valero and his wife...<snip>

I will be forever grateful that one cannot blush across
the internet. Margaret and I thank you.
Regards - Jack

visit our fractal gallery: http://www.globalserve.net/~jval/

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Date: Fri, 02 Jan 1998 14:38:39 -0800
From: Wizzle <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) DEEPER Program

Jack...

I was mentioning the other day to someone starting a homepage that your
page is an example of truly fine web style.....as well as containing
magnificent images. You have very crisp layout....good
navigation....attention to bandwidth....all the essentials....it's really a
page worth studying for how well it's put together.  No need to
blush......but r40, b20 and g05 does produce a nice (frac) tint for blushing.

Angela

At 05:12 PM 1/2/98 -0500, you wrote:
>At 06:17 PM 01/01/98 -0500, Jason wrote:
>>To all who haven't... I highly recommend visiting this page created by Jack
>>Valero and his wife...<snip>
>
>I will be forever grateful that one cannot blush across
>the internet. Margaret and I thank you.
>Regards - Jack
>
>visit our fractal gallery: http://www.globalserve.net/~jval/
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Date: Fri, 02 Jan 1998 14:44:14 -0800
From: Wizzle <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Jay's variation

Ron....

Not only would I like to visit....but also to add a link to your
homepage....however...my version of Netscape didn't like your url.....?????
Am I having a problem??? It's been a funny day....I couldn't get to
Damien's site eitiher

Angela

At 03:52 PM 1/2/98 EST, you wrote:
>In a message dated 97-12-28 18:40:51 EST, you write:
>
><< I do think Jay managed to find a "sexist" variation on my
> image....<<<<snikker>>>>> Nice ....um....phrallic choice of colors.  I'm
> gonna have to go find a fem counterpart....I didn't know phractals could be
> so stimulating.
>
> Angela >>
>
>Angela,
>Check out Gallery 3 on my web site. Perhaps there are some sexist images
there
>-- created with Fractint!
>http:\\members.aol.com\RBarn0001
>
>Ron
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Date: Fri, 02 Jan 1998 17:56:02 -0500
From: Dick Amerman <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Happy New Year!

Rich Thomson wrote:

> .....  Some people have mail readers that can handle
> printed-quotable and they do the decoding.  So it displays fine in
> such mail software.  However, not everyone has mail software that
> understands the printed-quotable encoding.  To that software, every =
> appears as =3D, which for fractint par and frm files is quite
> annoying.  The reason it is suggested turning it off is to accomodate
> those people who don't have mailers understanding printed-quotable..............

Guess I'm going to have to show my ignorance.  I'm using the plain vanilla e-mail access that comes with Communicator - just give it SMTP and POP connections to my ISP.  I can
find no reference to printed-quotable encoding, so don't know how to disable it if I'm using it!

Here's a par ... does it come to you with garbage?  (Don't know why it
resets to 1920 -- I'm using 19.6)

ConvergenceII      { ; Found while learning how to reproduce Caren Park's
                     ; ornatecbclogo - I set decomp to 128, not inverted.
                     ; uses OK! color map
  reset=1920 type=mandelfn function=ident
  corners=-9.076954/2.797033/-2.850051/6.05544 params=0/0 float=y
  maxiter=32767 bailout=2500 outside=real logmap=yes decomp=128
  finattract=y
  colors=00000z<14>000<16>z0X<15>000<15>p0w<15>000<15>zzz\
  <15>000L00<13>z00<2>p00l00h00d00a00<9>000<15>zX0<15>000\
  <15>ut0<15>000GA4<12>2v10z00w0<14>\
  000<14>00v
  }

Dick Amerman


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Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 18:11:09 EST
From: RBarn0001 <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Jay's variation

In a message dated 98-01-02 17:34:03 EST, you write:

<< Ron....

 Not only would I like to visit....but also to add a link to your
 homepage....however...my version of Netscape didn't like your url.....?????
 Am I having a problem??? It's been a funny day....I couldn't get to
 Damien's site eitiher

 Angela >>

If you are using Netscape 4.0, that may be the problem. Apparently Netscape
4.0 doesn't like the Javascript there that plays the fractal music -- even
though all of the functions used are from Netscape's own Javascript site. It
seems to work with everything else, including Netscape 2.x, 3.x, Internet
Explorer 3.x and 4.x. I guess I need to change the Javascript. Will let you
know when its ready. You might like the image called "Fertility"

Ron

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Date: Fri, 02 Jan 1998 17:24:59 -0600
From: "Damien M. Jones" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Jay's variation

Ron,

 - http:\\members.aol.com\RBarn0001

I can't believe you used backslashes here. :)  It should be:

    http://members.aol.com/RBarn0001

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Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 20:45:21 -0000
From: Peter Moreland <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Humor Hint

Erm... Sorry but that is my email address :)

So what do you think to the PAR ;)



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Date: 02 January 1998 04:52
Subject: Re: (fractint) Humor Hint


>>                     ; Email: [e-mail]
>
>Is that hostname for real? If not, people're gonna have a hard time giving
>feedback about the PAR!
>
>(BTW it is 11:38. If this thing bounces but goes through at 12:01, we'll
>know for sure about the list having some kind of offpeak time restriction.)
<SNIP>


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Date: Fri, 02 Jan 1998 16:32:26 -0800
From: Wizzle <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Zip File Thingummie

Damien Writes <<snip>>

 Basically, you have to fool FractInt into thinking all
>the inside pixels are outside pixels.  See any of the -I variants in my FRM
>file:
>
>    http://www.geocities.com/~fractalus/misc/dmj-pub.zip
>
> - could you use it to spice up relatively "monochrome" types, are the
> - possibilities really endless?
>
>Yes, the possibilities really ARE endless!  I have 100+ variants, plus
>another batch I'm working on which aren't ready for "release" yet--one of
>which I posted earlier.
>
<<snip>>

Damien......

The stuff in the zip file is fabulous!!!

I've gotten at least 6 good images today....including one straight out of
Tolkien I think I'll call "Balrog."  I'm going to yank some of the old
stuff at my homepage and set up a new gallery for your goodies.....any
preference as to what you think it ought to be called????

Thank you soooooooooooooooooooo much.....

Angela

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Date: Sat, 03 Jan 1998 00:28:21 +0000
From: Kevin Weedon <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Orchid fractals

Only reference I've seen was on a magazine cover disk - it was a crippled demo
- - I'll see if I can dig it out for you...

Peter Jakubowicz wrote:

> Does anyone know alogrithms for creating *orchid fractals*, invented by
> someone named Keith Still? Saw one in the new book Life's Other Secret
> today by Ian Stewart, who unfortunately does not supply details beyond
> their being based on modeling crowd behavior and Keith's Still's Internet
> handle being Hari Seldon. It looks like it can be done in Fractint, but I'm
> clueless; any help would be appreciated. Peter
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Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 19:53:13 -0500
From: "Brian E. Jones" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) BEJ Formulas

Hi Angela,

>>I would very much like to see them, but I am missing the following
referenced formula files...<<

The frms for the pars located at the Spanky site are available at:

http://spanky.triumf.ca/pub/fractals/formulas/bejones.frm

If you are wanting the all of the entire frm files, let me know and I'll
send them to you.

BTW, there are several par files available on my web page in the download
section.    |

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>>I noticed that Sylvie very sensibly made Gallet.frm (which was avaialbe at
|
Spanky) as the single point of reference for her par file.<<
|

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Even the way I referenced my formulafile entries is chaotic!  %^#
|

|
Brian
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http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Brian_E_Jones
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Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 19:56:00 EST
From: RBarn0001 <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Jay's variation

In a message dated 98-01-02 18:30:51 EST, you write:

<< Ron,

  - http:\\members.aol.com\RBarn0001

 I can't believe you used backslashes here. :)  It should be:

     http://members.aol.com/RBarn0001
  >>

It has been a rough holiday. Major disaster at our seasonal place in upstate
NY. I guess my brain has totally fried. I can't believe I did it either <g>.
My apologies to all who tried to go visit.
Ron

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Date: Fri, 02 Jan 1998 19:24:00 -0600
From: "Paul N. Lee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Orchid fractals

Peter Jakubowicz wrote:
>
> Does anyone know alogrithms for creating *orchid fractals*,
> invented by someone named Keith Still?
>

Maybe the following will assist in your search:

______________________________________________________________________
G. Keith Still BSC is a graduate in Physical Sciences from RGIT
(Aberdeen).  In the 1980's he was involved in the design of computer
systems for electron microscope imaging and chemical analysis.  He
developed computer systems for environmental data capture and analysis -
Compliance Manger - and linked them into virtual reality for
visualisation of data in four dimensions (including time).  That work
led to the development of the VEgAS (Virtual Egress Analysis and
Simulation) system - modelling egress from burning buildings.  This
system has been reviewed internationally, with Keith appearing on
various television programmes worldwide, and producing articles for
national and international magazines and journals.  Keith has lectured
at many organisations, including the Fire Research Station and the Fire
Services College, Morton-on-the-Marsh.  VEgAS was the runner up in the
innovation of the year award in 1992.

Keith sold VEgAS to an international fire and ventilation company.  He
then went on to created FMIG Limited and developed a more powerful
system LEGION that uses the Orchid fractals, a discovery he made while
recuperating from an operation on his back.  LEGION uses "entity
oriented programming" and handles 250,000 individuals.

Orchid Fractals have applications for currency market analysis, data
compression, data encryption, data analysis, digital fingerprinting and
crowd dynamics analysis.  LEGION has received international coverage on
European Business News and a variety of science magazines including the
New Scientist and Reuters.

Keith is currently registered at Warwick University (under Professor Ian
Stewart) for a PhD in Mathematics.

What do three parameter fractals look like?
The three interdependent functions are expressed as objective, motility
and constraint.  This applies to a wide range of interactive systems
from crowd dynamics to ecosystems modelling (Objective can also  be
expressed as a function of some environmental change). Using phase space
diagrams to illustrate these as two dimensional objects, to Keith's
delight, they produce rich, beautiful and very complex shapes.

The author named these Orchid fractals (the internal shapes reminded him
of an Orchid).  They map the interactions within this type of dynamic
systems.  It would require a trained mathematician to use the
relationship between geometry and dynamic systems within the Orchid
phase space diagrams and to non-scientists they are just pretty shapes.

However, Keith's entity oriented programming technique's use these
fractals to map these interactions inside a virtual reality model that
is more understandable than a phase space diagram.

Some curious phenomena of Orchid projections are that, when applied to
some mathematical functions (for example the stock market) they distill
out strange attractors.  They produces shapes, full of detail and
mini-bifurcations but self-organising as if there was a higher order,
limiting function holding them together.  Applications for these
algorithms include data compression, data encryption, currency market
analysis and digital fingerprinting techniques.  Keith is currently
developing a series of applications using the Orchid Fractals.
______________________________________________________________________

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Date: Fri, 02 Jan 1998 20:49:20 -0500
From: Jack Valero <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) My new homepage!

At 01:34 AM 02/01/98 -0500, Paul wrote:
<snip>
>Guy posts in HTML(:P), asking us to see his fractal page, and then
>neglects to supply the URL. Ladies and gentlemen, we have a newbie!
<snip>

Aw, come on Paul. We were all newbies once and most of us are
still newbies at something. I'd rather give newcomers some
helpful advice by private email than ridicule them publicly.

If I was shot down for all my mistakes I'd have died from
embarrassment before I got started!

Regards - Jack

visit our fractal gallery: http://www.globalserve.net/~jval/

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Date: Fri, 02 Jan 1998 20:49:25 -0500
From: Jack Valero <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) DEEPER Program

At 02:38 PM 02/01/98 -0800, Angela wrote:
>I was mentioning the other day to someone starting a homepage that your
>page is an example of truly fine web style..<snip>

Thank you. Six months ago I thought HTML was a four letter word
I hadn't heard yet. Only a couple of months ago a number of
readers of this list gave me valuable advice in correcting
a browser width problem I had. If *I* can do this it means there
is hope for us all.

I'm just putting the finishing touches on a complete redesign
of our gallery pages. It is much slicker with a (I think...)
unique way of exploring the gallery. A few more images and
larger pics. The bandwidth will suffer a little but such
is the price of style. Sigh...

Thanks again. I'll tell Margaret :)
Regards - Jack

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Date: Fri, 02 Jan 1998 19:49:02 -0600
From: "Paul N. Lee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Orchid fractals

Peter Jakubowicz wrote:
>
> Does anyone know alogrithms for creating *orchid fractals*,
> invented by someone named Keith Still?
>

You might also check with Homer Wilson Smith (of Art Matrix) about some
"Peitgen" and "Orchid" images used in an IAIN SOFTLEY Film called "H A C
K E R S" (by UNITED ARTISTS PICTURES).


Advanced Graphical Technology & FMIG Ltd. - Entity-oriented programming
by G. Keith Still.  Check out the Orchid Fractal Explorer at the
following URL:
        http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/town/plaza/ae111/

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Date: Fri, 02 Jan 1998 18:44:54 -0800
From: Wizzle <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) From Paul Carlson

Paul writes

Well, I tried again today - the Fractint list is still bouncing
all my email back to me, so could I impose upon you again to send
the following for me?  I think you'll like this one - it's kind
of cute.  Thanks.  Paul

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The par file that accompanied my 3D_Phoenix_Spirals formula that
Lee Skinner posted here for me some time ago produced a rather "elegant"
fractal.  The par file below produces my favorite 3D_Phoenix_Spirals
fractal -  I think it has a real "whimsical" quality to it.  It looks
to me like the thingy on the left is saying to the thingy on the
right, "Hello there, haven't I seen you someplace before?"

whimsical          { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1997
  reset=1920 type=formula formulafile=phxspirs.frm
  formulaname=3D_Phoenix_Spirals passes=t
  corners=0.5762403157945/0.5762421404185/0.786099693384/0.786101061852
  params=0.563/0/2/125 float=y maxiter=300 inside=253
  outside=summ colors=000n_z<123>I0Kjzb<123>4E0000<3>000
  }

Paul Carlson


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Date: Fri, 02 Jan 1998 20:27:12 -0800
From: kathy roth <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Fractint (Moving Sideways)

I hope someone can help with this- I  have been reading
all the posts about saving par files and  I am
still having problems with some of them.  I would really
like to get 3D_balls by Paul Carlson - it sounds like it
is fun and I would like to get the images from the pars that
other people have made out of it.  Les St. Clair's don't seem
to work either.  ( The New Year message worked ok in the
attachment.)  Nearly all the other pars and formulas work now.
I am using Netscape 4.04 and Fractint 19.6, and I open them
into Pfe32 and save them as whatever.frm or .par. (into
 the same directory as Fractint without defining exactly where
it goes) and it sometimes it  seems to hunt for a formula but usually
finds it. ( I thought I was doing something wrong but so many of
them do work that I think this is probably not it- duuuhhhh!)
(Maybe it's my brain- ohhhhnooooooooooooooo)
Maybe it is the server or maybe it would work better in the
earlier version of Netscape.  Can someone re-post  (or send
to my address)  3D_balls  and I can see if it works better in an
earlier version of Netscape, or any other suggestions would be welcome.


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