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From: Lee Skinner <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Re: Bugs and Midgets
Date: 01 Mar 2000 07:32:16 -0500

Jim and Ken,

>>  But I have seen several reports that UF can zoom one or two orders of=

magnitude deeper than Fractint. <<

> I don't believe this to be true.  UF doesn't currently support arbitrar=
y
precision.  That is coming in the next version.  About the max you can zo=
om
is on the order of 1e17. <

I believe that you can zoom in about 3 orders of magnitude more in UF tha=
n
Fractint because UF uses the 80-bit long-double register math, while
Fractint uses only 64-bit instructions.  Tim once made an experimental
version of Fractint that allowed a few fractal types to use the long-doub=
le
arithmetic, but it would have been too time-consuming to convert all of
Fractint this way, so it was not further pursued.  The nice thing is that=

long-double doesn't slow down the computations like arbitrary precision
does.  Converting Mandelbrotmix4 to arbitrary precision would be extremel=
y
slow compared to mandels or julias.

Lee

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From: Kenneth Childress <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: Bugs and Midgets
Date: 01 Mar 2000 07:57:30 -0800 (PST)

> At 09:38 PM 2/29/00 -0800, Ken Childress wrote:
> >Jim,
> >
> >>Your assumption is confirmed.  Those blocky, square and rectangular
> >>shapes you run into at very large magnitudes are not a bug.  They
> >>are a sign that the limit of mathematical precision has been
> >>exceeded.  Since I have relatively little experience with Ultra-
> >>Fractal, I cannot confirm that it has deeper zooming capacity.  But
> >>I have seen several reports that UF can zoom one or two orders of
> >>magnitude deeper than Fractint.
> >
> >I don't believe this to be true.  UF doesn't currently support
> >arbitrary precision.  That is coming in the next version.  About the
> >max you can zoom is on the order of 1e17.
>
> This confirms what I said.  The maximum magnitude Fractint can reach
> without switching to arbitrary precision is around 1e13.  If UF can
> zoom to 1e17, then it exceeds the zoom limit of Fractint by a factor
> of around 10,000.

My mistake.  I didn't understand the distinction you made above.


Ken...



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From: Barry N Merenoff <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) fractals and art
Date: 01 Mar 2000 11:21:36 -0500

The painting "Nami" (don't know the artist) is an excellent fractal. It i=
s
an abstract depiction of an ocean wave.

Sincerely,
        Collin Merenoff

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From: "lele" <[e-mail]>
Subject: R: (fractint) fractals and art
Date: 01 Mar 2000 19:03:31 +0100

> like Escher maybe), ancient Indian artists,
- Check out Paul Klee's paintings

maybe pollock too
ciau ne',
             lele


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From: DeBow Freed II PhD <[e-mail]>
Subject: [Fwd: (fractint) fractals and art]
Date: 01 Mar 2000 16:29:04 -0600

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Eleanor -

    A place to start might be the latest of Amazon.com's hard-sell items
(ie, listed on their homepage) called Fractals in African Art, or some
such. Otherwise, just input "fractal" to amazon.com, B&Noble, or
Borders' search engines and you'll get a wealth of books on the
intersection of fine art/fractals/symmetry in general, etc.

    Good authors to look up are Hargittai(Istvan), and the more popular
typess like Glieck(Chaos), and the whole crew of former and current
Science News correspondents like Ivars Petersen, etc.
    You may also wish to check out a great vendor named Lifespring: all
fractal based images which can be obtained as prints, Kodachromes, and
even coffee cups (I like mine).If you're interested, I can provide you
with the name and URL's of the last few places which have old copies of
FracPaint software and other artist-friendly graphics tools.
    Finally, at last count, I had 6 books about Escher and fractals.
Actually what he's doing is called "tiling" and "conformal mapping" (a
la Roger Penrose's "kites and darts"), all of which seem to appeal
aesthetically to the same people, including myself.

Good luck,
DeBow Freed md PhD

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I have been getting into fractals and fractal shapes and have been leaning
that artists were influenced by and had used fractals shapes in their art
work even before the word fractals was coined.  Do any of you have ideas as
to which artists these might be (like Escher maybe), ancient Indian artists,
etc.

Thanks

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From: Jim Muth <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) FOTD, 02-03-00 (Network of Tongues [3]) (c)
Date: 02 Mar 2000 00:14:34 -0500 (EST)


FOTD -- March 02, 2000  (Rating 3)

Fractal enthusiasts and visionaries:

Today's fractal is different.

It is different because it has no midget at the center, and also
because it is not much more than a pattern.  I named the picture
"Network of Tongues" because it is a view of some familiar
tongue-like objects seen from an unfamiliar direction, in which
the tongues appear as a network of crossing bands.

Regardless of whether one examines the Mandelbrot or Julia
aspects of the formula Z^50000+C, it would never be expected to
produce anything other than a circle with 49999 or 50000
identical invisible tiny bays around the circumfrence.

But today's fractal does not examine the Mandelbrot or Julia
aspects of this extreme formula -- it examines the Rectangular
aspect, cutting through the Julibrot along the imag(z) and
imag(c) axes at a point just inside the hypersurface of the
four-dimensional object.

The criss-crossing parallel bands are actually a sideways view
of a few of the tens of thousands of tiny bays around the
perimeter of the fractal.  On the large scale the bands appear
identical, though a deeper examination will reveal the tiny
differences that appear because every band is cut at a slightly
different point.

As a special treat for all time-presses fractalists, the
parameter file renders in a short 19 seconds.  And running the
parameter file is really the best way to view the image, since
this preserves the image data.

For those who would still prefer to download the finished image,
that image has been posted to Usenet at:

          <alt.binaries.pictures.fractals>

and to the web at:

          <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html>

The fractal weather today was partly cloudy and 61F (16C), which
was enough to lure the fractal cats onto the porch -- at least
while the sun was shining.

Once again today all my philosophical energy was expended on a
separate letter to the philofractal list.  I'll try again
tomorrow to return to my topic of fractal spirituality -- but no
guarantee is implied.  Until then, take care, and make fractals
while the sun shines.


Jim Muth
[e-mail]


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From: "Ton Koppens" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Mandel_Lake pars
Date: 02 Mar 2000 11:56:34 +0100

Hello list,

I've been playing with the formula Sylvie Gallet posted recently wich I
thought was very nice.
Here are some sample pars, please feel free to comment.


Greetings,

Ton


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                     ; e-mail:[e-mail]
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                     ; e-mail:[e-mail]
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                     ; e-mail:[e-mail]
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                     ; Image Copyright 10 Feb 2000 by Ton Koppens
                     ; e-mail:[e-mail]
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                     ; e-mail:[e-mail]
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                     ; Image Copyright 25 Feb 2000 by Ton Koppens
                     ; e-mail:[e-mail]
                     ;  Version 2000 Patchlevel 8
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From: "Fliguer, Miguel" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (fractint) Mandel_Lake pars
Date: 02 Mar 2000 14:27:49 -0300

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>>>Here are some sample pars, please feel free to comment.

Very nice, specially the last one (0022501). In my next
site update I'll be including a couple of images which
also use this impressive feature.

Regards,
Miguel Fliguer - Buenos Aires, Argentina
http://members.xoom.com/fliguer/franktal.html

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From: Jim Muth <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) FOTD, 03-03-00 (A Work of Lace [5]) (c)
Date: 03 Mar 2000 00:57:32 -0500 (EST)


FOTD -- March 03, 2000  (Rating 5)

Fractal enthusiasts and visionaries:

It's been another busy day here at Fractal Central, which serves
other purposes during the daylight hours.  Having so much work
that pays, I had little time for hunting fractals, which does
not pay.  But with the aid of my faithful fractal companion
MandelbrotMix4, I did manage to find a fractal.  The fractal may
not be the best of all time, but it is still good enough to pass
for FOTD for 03-03-00.

The fractal picture that resulted from my hurried efforts was
named "A Work of Lace".  The lace-like filaments surrounding the
central midget inspired the name.  These filaments, not
surprisingly, are fractal in themselves.  The deeper one zooms
into them, the more they sub-divide.  Like everything in the
land of fractals, this sub-division continues to infinity.

The image was created by bringing up the M-Mix4 formula and
adding a tiny bit of Z^(-2) to Z^5.  The parameter file
completes in a relatively speedy 1-1/2 minutes.  If this is
still too long to wait, the image file has been posted in GIF
format to:

          <alt.binaries.pictures.fractals>

and to:

          <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html>

I chose GIF format for today's fractal because when I JPEG'd the
image, it suffered too much deterioration.  I'll return to the
standard JPEG format tomorrow.

The fractal weather was March-like today, as blustery winds made
the temperature of 54F (12C) feel a lot colder than it actually
was.  Of course, any high wind keeps the fractal cats indoors,
snug by their radiator.

There was simply no time for deep fractal-philosophy thought
today.  I'll give it another try tomorrow.  Until then, take
care, and the only thing better than a fractal is a second
fractal.


Jim Muth
[e-mail]


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From: Jim Muth <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) FOTD, 04-03-00 (Only a Sideshow [4]) (c)
Date: 04 Mar 2000 02:00:30 -0500 (EST)


FOTD -- March 04, 2000  (Rating 4)

Fractal enthusiasts and visionaries:

I've named today's fractal "Only a Sideshow".  I gave it this
name because I stumbled upon it while on the spoor of another
scene.  Since today's image rated a modest 4, and I had no
assurance that the scene I was hunting would be any better, I
declared the accidental discovery Fractal of the Day.  The main
event may of may not ever appear.

The formula behind the picture adds a tiny bit of 1/Z to a lot
of Z.  This is another of those combinations that would not be
expected to produce anything of interest.  But as is so often
the case, fractals are surprising.

There are two ways to view the surprise -- the long hard way and
the short easy way.  The long hard way is to run the attached
parameter file and wait 25 minutes.  The short easy way is to
retrieve the JPEG image file found on Usenet at:

          <alt.binaries.pictures.fractals>

and on the Web at:

          <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html>

Of course, choosing the short easy method deprives you of the
embedded data.

The fractal weather was sunny but quite March-like today, with
brisk breezes and a temperature of 54F (12C).  The combination
held the fractal cats to only a brief trip out of doors.

The time I found to ponder philosophy was briefer than even the
cats' outing.  In fact, it was so close to zero as to be
insignificant.  But hope springs eternal, and I'll try again
tomorrow.  Until then, take care, and after all these years we
still don't know exactly what a fractal is.


Jim Muth
[e-mail]


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From: "Eleanor Adika" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) fractals and art
Date: 04 Mar 2000 09:51:54 PST


Thanks to all for you help

eleanor

>From: "Eleanor Adika" <[e-mail]>
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>Subject: (fractint) fractals and art
>Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 20:51:33 PST
>
>I have been getting into fractals and fractal shapes and have been leaning
>that artists were influenced by and had used fractals shapes in their art
>work even before the word fractals was coined.  Do any of you have ideas as
>to which artists these might be (like Escher maybe), ancient Indian
>artists,
>etc.
>
>Thanks
>
>Eleanor
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From: Lee Skinner <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) fractals and art
Date: 04 Mar 2000 20:20:22 -0500

Thank you Eleanor, for you kind comments.

I don't know if I mentioned this to you earlier, but I do sell a Fractal
CDROM for $29.95 that has over 2600 of my best images on it (Fractal
Dimensions).  E-mail me again if you wish ordering instructions.

Lee

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (fractint) fractal file losses
Date: 04 Mar 2000 21:37:43 EST

Never thought it would be me, but i was recently burgled.  They took lots of
"stuff" that is easily replaceable but they also took my computer...wires and
all.  Unfortunately they took my zip drive too, and in it was my latest
fractint backup zip disk.  3 years of formulas and pars and maps etc, gone!
If you keep backups, i strongly suggest keeping two...one being those
precious irreplacable files.  This week i purchased a new computer and have
started to rebuild my loss...orgform. spanky, skinner.  To save me some time
I was wondering if any of you are interested in sending me links, lists,
zipped accumilations of your own...i would greatly appreciate it.  in the
mean time I am preparing a posting for next week.

best regards to all

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From: Jim Muth <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) FOTD, 05-03-00 (Sea-Ice [5]) (c)
Date: 05 Mar 2000 02:33:44 -0500 (EST)


FOTD -- March 05, 2000

Fractal enthusiasts and visionaries:

Today's fractal scene is part of the overall fractal that
results when Z^0.75 is subtracted from 0.01*(Z^(-99)) before
adding C.  I have named the picture "Sea-Ice" because an earlier
version was colored to resemble an expanse of broken ice floes.
The icy blue colors have been replaced by an electric violet
scheme, but the name has remained the same.

The image is composed of those broken, loose-floating fragments
of fractal material that characterize most formulae which
include negative powers of Z.  As the 7-1/2 minutes required to
run the parameter file is a bit long for comfort, I suggesting
downloading the JPEG image file from:

          <alt.binaries.pictures.fractals>

or from:

          <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html>

The fractal weather today was once again notably average, though
a bit milder than yesterday.  The temperature of 56F (13.5C) was
close to, but not quite at a temperature warm enough for the
fractal cats to enjoy themselves outdoors.

For now, I notice that the cats are hungry and the hour is late.
My best action is to call it a night and shut down Fractal
Central.  Until next time, take care, and be kind to your
fractals and they'll be kind to you.


Jim Muth
[e-mail]


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z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c,
|z| < l
}

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From: "Jacco Burger" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) fractal file losses
Date: 05 Mar 2000 20:17:34 +0100

Your story sounds like a true nightmare! I keep a backup of my most
important fractal-files at my work, but after reading your story I
think I better make sure it is up to date....

One link that I treasure is the Fractint Discussion List Resources:
http://home.san.rr.com/jayrhill/iFAQ/Resource.htm

You are also welcome to download 150 of my Fractint color maps at
http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~jaccobu
Just follow the link called ' Files '.

I hope you can find the courage and energy to start all over again!

Take care!
Jacco
----------------- ----------------- -----------------
e-mail: [e-mail]
Jacco's Fractal Pages:
http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~jaccobu/index.htm
Jacco's Fractal Kitchen:
http://www.crosswinds.net/~jacco
----------------- ----------------- -----------------

Van: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
Onderwerp: (fractint) fractal file losses


>Never thought it would be me, but i was recently burgled.  They took
lots of
>"stuff" that is easily replaceable but they also took my
computer...wires and
>all.  Unfortunately they took my zip drive too, and in it was my
latest
>fractint backup zip disk.  3 years of formulas and pars and maps etc,
gone!
>If you keep backups, i strongly suggest keeping two...one being those
>precious irreplacable files.  This week i purchased a new computer
and have
>started to rebuild my loss...orgform. spanky, skinner.  To save me
some time
>I was wondering if any of you are interested in sending me links,
lists,
>zipped accumilations of your own...i would greatly appreciate it.  in
the
>mean time I am preparing a posting for next week.
>
>best regards to all



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From: JoWeber <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) fractal file losses
Date: 05 Mar 2000 17:43:28 -0500

Hi,

>I was wondering if any of you are interested in sending me links, lists,=
 =

>zipped accumilations of your own...i would greatly appreciate it.  in th=
e =

>mean time I am preparing a posting for next week.

Maybe you will goto http://www.joweber.de and their to my download page o=
r
to the Developer Page and you can download much files.
For the newest patch 20.0.8 of fractint go to http://www.fractint.org.

Best wishes --Jo--

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From: Jim Muth <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) FOTD, 06-03-00 (Shlubbered Midget [6]) (c)
Date: 06 Mar 2000 00:13:33 -0500 (EST)


FOTD -- March 06, 2000  (Rating 6)

Fractal enthusiasts and visionaries:

Standing in as FOTD for March 6 we have a shlubbered midget.  If
you have no idea what a shlubbered midget is, either launch the
attached parameter file and wait 15 minutes, or download the
pre-calculated image file from Usenet at:

          <alt.binaries.pictures.fractals>

or from the web at:

          <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html>

and see the image in a matter of seconds.

I have named the picture "Shlubbered Midget" purely as a
description, for surely no midget has ever been so thoroughly
shlubbered, (whatever that means).  The formula behind the
mayhem is Z^0.7071-2Z^(-1.4142))+C, which is totally whimsical.

The image is all inside=fmod, the outside features having long
since evaporated with the rising escape radius.  The color
palette is a slightly modified version of the Shift-F1 palette
built into Fractint.  All the <shift> palettes work well with
the inside=fmod option, bringing out the full blobbiness of the
bubbles this fill creates.

The fractal weather today featured brilliant sunshine and a
temperature of 66F (19C), which was just mild enough to keep the
fractal cats happy.

With such perfect weather to enjoy, I spent most of the day
getting caught up in yard work.  This left little time for deep
philosophical pondering.  What little pondering I did involved
the possibility that life can be expressed as a fractal.  If we
could find the formula that accurately describes the past and
present, what would happen if we let that formula continue
running?  Would it predict the future?  I came to no conclusion
this afternoon, but the possibility is worth consideration.

I now must consider the hour.  It's 11:45pm, which is already
past the time to shut down the fractal shoppe and call it a
night.  Until next time, take care, and see you in 24 hours.


Jim Muth
[e-mail]


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From: "Paul N. Lee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) fractal file losses
Date: 06 Mar 2000 01:06:26 -0600

[e-mail] wrote:
>
> I was wondering if any of you are interested
> in sending me links, lists, .........

Hundreds of fractal related references at:

   http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/Fractal_Links.txt


P.N.L.
http://www.fractalus.com/cgi-bin/theway?ring=fractals&id=43&go

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From: Jim Muth <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) FOTD, 07-03-00 (Midget in a Tile Bowl [6]) (c)
Date: 07 Mar 2000 00:57:56 -0500 (EST)


FOTD -- March 07, 2000  (Rating 6

Fractal enthusiasts and visionaries:

Today's fractal appears about ready to go down the drain.  The
little midget in the center reminds me so much of the drain in
the wash basin that I couldn't resist but naming the picture
"Midget in a Tile Bowl".

The expression that was calculated by the MandelbrotMix4 formula
to produce the image is Z^(0.9)+Z^(-1.9)+C.  The escape radius
of 17.5 (100-82.5) is critical.  A lesser bailout eliminates the
edge detail; a greater bailout breaks the image down into
scattered bits and pieces.  The image then requires an inside
fill of something like bof60 to reveal the midget.  It also
takes almost forever to run.

The parameter file is a slow one, which drags along for nearly
an hour on a Pentium 200mhz.  Relief may be found on Usenet at:

          <alt.binaries.pictures.fractals>

and on the Worldwide Web at Paul lee's web site at:

          <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html>

in the form of the JPEG'd image file.  All wise fractalists will
pick up the image from one of these sites and save the parameter
file for reference only.

The fractal weather today was sunny, but not so warm as
yesterday, the temperature of 57F (14C) being just a bit too
chilly for the intrepid duo of fractal cats.

As for now, the cats are getting hungry and I'm getting tired.
Until next time, take care, and wash your troubles down the
fractal drain.


Jim Muth
[e-mail]


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frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth
a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2),
g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j,
k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel):
z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c,
|z| < l
}

END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE==================================


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From: "Jason Hine" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Change to Iterates.TGA at Frain200?
Date: 06 Mar 2000 22:12:12 -0800

Hello folks,

I'm going to try to avoid bothering Tim directly, and post my question here
first.  A while back I wrote a little program called Deeper (link below) that
uses the targa file ITERATES.TGA.  This is the file Fractint produces when the
command truecolor=yes is used.  In order to read the file, I need to know the
binary structure of the file, and apparently, that has changed since Frain196...
it looks like the header might be the same, but I'm getting gobbeltygook when I
try to retrieve and concatenate iteration values.

My question is, can anyone point to or send documentation or code describing how
the iteration values are being stored in the ITERATES.TGA file at Frain200?  I
realize this is probably a better question for the developer list, but I thought
I'd try here first.

And to those who were wondering, in case it wasn't sufficiently clear already:
Deeper does not work with Frain200.  Use version 19.6 until I get this fixed.
Many thanks,

Jason Hine
[e-mail]
Author of Deeper -->  http://tumnus.home.mindspring.com/deeper.htm



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From: "David Jones" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Re: FOTD, 06-03-00 (Shlubbered Midget)
Date: 06 Mar 2000 21:46:19 -1000

Wow - what an image! Glad I finally got to see it!


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From: "Iain G. Stirling" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Mandel_Lake pars
Date: 07 Mar 2000 23:26:51 -0000

Ton Koppens wrote:

> Hello list,
>
> I've been playing with the formula Sylvie Gallet posted recently wich I
> thought was very nice.
> Here are some sample pars, please feel free to comment.
>

Splendid images. I especially like 00020801 - great colours, giving a
sort of "metallic" feel to the image. Looks great rendered at 1600x1200
as my windows background :)

Thanks,

Iain.



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From: Tim Wegner <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) posting to the list
Date: 07 Mar 2000 20:58:27 -0600

Turns out that the welcome message you get when you subscribe
to this list has been out of date for a while. New members take
note - you should send posts to [e-mail], not
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I have also updated my email address. You might as well email me
using the easy-to-remember alias [e-mail].
[e-mail] works equally well :-)

Tim


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From: Jim Muth <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) FOTD, 08-03-00 (Minibrot Survival [7]) (c)
Date: 08 Mar 2000 00:57:58 -0500 (EST)


FOTD -- March 08, 2000  (Rating 7)

Fractal enthusiasts and visionaries:

A Minibrot midget is a delicate thing, especially when the
generating formula contains a negative power of Z.  In this
situation, the scene containing the midget can be 'evaporated'
by raising the bailout radius.  Not all midgets in fractals with
negative exponents in their generating formulae are vulnerable
to evaporation, but the midget in yesterday's FOTD is one of the
vulnerable ones.  As the bailout is increased, the scene breaks
down into discrete elements, the elements gradually shrink, and
finally vanish altogether, leaving a most boring solid black
screen of trapped points.  But an invisible ghost still haunts
the scene.

Today's fractal is the ghost of yesterday's fractal, made
visible by applying an inside fill of bof61 to the blank black
screen that was left behind when the midget expired.  Traces of
the original scene are still visible forming circles around the
midget, but in addition we now have spectacular multi-colored
wedges radiating from the midget and overlapping the circular
remains of the tile-like features that appeared in yesterday's
FOTD.  I named today's FOTD image "Minibrot Survival" because it
is a picture of a Minibrot that has survived its own death.

With this particular fractal, the inside=bof60 option brings out
the best detail.  With other images consisting of only trapped
points, bof60 brings out the best detail, and with still others
fmod or one of the other inside fill options works best.  The
only way to know for sure which inside fill will draw the best
image is to try them all at thumbnail size.

Since today's image is all inside, the parameter file is a slow
one.  Run it and wait if you so decide, but a far better way to
view the picture is to go to the Usenet binary newsgroup:

          <alt.binaries.pictures.fractals>

and download the JPEG format image file from there.

The image may also be found on the WWW at Paul Lee's web site at
the following URL:

          <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html>

The all-unimportant weather report for today, (which is actually
March 07, since the FOTD is dated one day in advance), is as
follows -- hazy sunshine with a south wind and a temperature of
70F (21C) -- perfect conditions for cats to lie in the sun.

I see that it's past the time to shut down the fractal shoppe,
give the fractal cats their evening snack, and call it another
day.  I'll return tomorrow with another fractal to delight and
amaze.  Until then, take care, and remember that life is just
one big fractal.


Jim Muth
[e-mail]


START 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================

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                     ;  Version 2000 Patchlevel 8
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  center-mag=-1.00493407943142/+0.03758239708686328\
  /7.124526e+011/1/147.488/-0.065
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  bailout=25 inside=bof61 logmap=yes
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  2>_C0e50k00l16l6BlBFnFK<3>oU`oXdp`ipclpfpqjuqnxqqzqt\
  znpyjnuhkp<3>VaWS_ROXMMVHISBFQ5HR8ISBISDJUHJVJKVKKWN\
  MXQMXSNYVNYW
  }

frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth
a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2),
g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j,
k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel):
z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c,
|z| < l
}

END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE==================================


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From: Guy Marson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Just a FEW more L-systems... 3/6
Date: 08 Mar 2000 15:19:01 +0100

Hi

Super .l-file! I'm now running every (.par) file manually. I need a version
of PARTOBAT.exe running in a DOS-Window under Win98 .. My old version 3.3
don't run under Win98.. Is there a version of PARTOBAT.exe working well
into a DOS-Window?

cheers,

Guy



At 10:40 20/02/00 GET, you wrote:
>ADH120a { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f-f-f
>  f=f+ff-f+f-ff-f
>  }
>
>ADH120b { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f-f-f
>  f=f+gg-f+g-gg-f
>  }
>
>ADH120c { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ; Sierpinski variation...
>  Axiom f-f-f
>  f=f+fg-f+g-ff-f
>  }
>
>ADH120d { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f-f-f
>  f=f+ff-g+g-f
>  }
>
>ADH120e { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f-f-f
>  f=f+ff-f+g-ff-f
>  }
>
>ADH120f { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f-f-f
>  f=f+ff-f+f-gf-f
>  }
>
>ADH120h { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f-f-f
>  f=f+ff-f+f-ff-g
>  }
>
>ADH120i { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f
>  f=g+ff-g+f-ff-g
>  }
>
>ADH120j { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f+f+f
>  f=f+gf-g+f-gf-g
>  }
>
>ADH120k { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f-f-f
>  f=f+ff-g+g-ff-f
>  }
>
>ADH120l { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f-f-f
>  f=f+gg-f+f-ff-f
>  }
>
>ADH120o { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f+f+f
>  f=+ff-f+ff-f-f
>  }
>
>ADH120p { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f+f+f
>  f=f+fff-f+f-fff-f
>  }
>
>ADH120q { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f+f+f
>  f=f+ff-f+f-f-ff-f
>  }
>
>ADH120r { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f+f+f
>  f=f+ff-f-f-ff-f
>  }
>
>ADH120s { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f-f-f
>  f=ff-f+f-ff-f
>  }
>
>ADH120t { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f-f-f
>  f=f+ff-f+f-ff
>  }
>
>ADH120u { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f-f-f
>  f=ff-f+f-ff+
>  }
>
>ADH120v { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f+f+f
>  f=ff+ff-f+f-ff-ff
>  }
>
>ADH120x { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f-f-f
>  f=f-ff-f+f+ff-f
>  }
>
>ADH120y { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f-f-f
>  f=-ff-f+f-ff+f
>  }
>
>ADH120z { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f+f+f
>  f=f+[gg+f]+g-
>  }
>
>ADH120zb { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f-f-f
>  f=f+ff+f-[f+f]f+f
>  }
>
>ADH120zd { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f-f-f
>  f=fg-f+gf-
>  }
>
>ADH120ze { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f-f-f
>  f=f+ff-f-f+ff-f
>  }
>
>ADH120zf { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f-f-f
>  f=f+ff-[f+f]+ff+f
>  }
>
>ADH120zg { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>
>
>  Axiom f+f+f
>  f=[f-ff]-f+f-ff-f
>  }
>
>ADH120zh { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f-f-f
>  f=f-gg-f+g-gg-f
>  }
>
>ADH120zi { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f-f-f
>  f=f-[gfg]-g+f-gg-f
>  }
>
>ADH120zj { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f-f-f
>  f=g-fg-g-gg-f
>  }
>
>ADH120zm { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f-f-f
>  f=f-ff-f+f-[gf-f]
>  }
>
>ADH120zn { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f-f-f
>  f=f-g[f-g+f]-gg-f
>  }
>
>ADH120zo { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f-f-f
>  f=f-gg+f-ff-g
>  }
>
>ADH120zp { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f+f+f
>  f=g-ff-g+f-ff-g
>  }
>
>ADH120zq { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f+f+f
>  f=g-ff-g+f-ff-g
>  }
>
>ADH120zr { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f+f+f
>  f=f-gf-g+f-gg-f
>  }
>
>ADH120zs { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f+f+f
>  f=f-gg-f+g-gf-f
>  }
>
>ADH120zt { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f-f-f
>  f=g-ff-g+g-ff-g
>  }
>
>ADH120zx { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f-f-f
>  f=f-fg-f+g+g-fg-f
>  }
>
>ADH120zy { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f+f+f
>  f=f-ff-f-f-ff-f
>  }
>
>ADH120zz { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f-f-f
>  f=ff+f+g-ff-f
>  }
>
>ADH120zza { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f-f-f
>  f=f-ff-f+f-ff
>  }
>
>ADH120zzb { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f-f-f
>  f=fg+f+g-fg+
>  }
>
>ADH120zze { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f+f+f
>  f=f-fg+f+f+gf-f
>  }
>
>ADH120zzf { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f-f-f
>  f=-fg+f+g-fg-f
>  }
>
>ADH120zzg { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f+f+f
>  f=f+ff-f+f-ff-f
>  }
>
>ADH120zzh { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f+f+f
>  f=+ff-f-f-ff+f
>  }
>
>ADH120zzi { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f-f-f
>  f=f-ff+f-f+ff+f
>  }
>
>ADH120zzj { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f-f-f
>  f=+ff-f-f-ff-f
>  }
>
>ADH120zzl { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f-f-f
>  f=f+gg+f-g+fg-f
>  }
>
>ADH120zzm { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
>  Angle 3 ;
>  Axiom f-f-f
>  f=f+fg+f+f+gg+f
>  }
>
>
>
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From: "Jonathan Osuch" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (fractint) Change to Iterates.TGA at Frain200?
Date: 08 Mar 2000 16:18:57 -0600

Jason,

The targa file output is broken in version 20.0.  It has been fixed in the
developer's version.  At least, as far as I can tell.  I don't use this
feature, so I'm sure I haven't tested everything.  The newest version is
20.0.8 and it can be found at http://www.fractint.org.  The file you want is
FRADEV.ZIP.

Jonathan



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From: "James R. McKenzie" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Fractint 20.0.8
Date: 08 Mar 2000 17:54:07 -0500

When I try to get fractint Developer's Version 20.0.8 I end up with 20.0.6
Developer's Version.  Is this the same thing each as the other.  I'm getting
from ftp://ftp.fractint.org .  As far as I know I'm doing it right.  Please
respond ASAP.




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From: "Jonathan Osuch" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (fractint) Change to Iterates.TGA at Frain200?
Date: 08 Mar 2000 16:18:57 -0600

Jason,

The targa file output is broken in version 20.0.  It has been fixed in the
developer's version.  At least, as far as I can tell.  I don't use this
feature, so I'm sure I haven't tested everything.  The newest version is
20.0.8 and it can be found at http://www.fractint.org.  The file you want is
FRADEV.ZIP.

Jonathan



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From: "Damien M. Jones" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Spanky Fractal Database
Date: 08 Mar 2000 23:15:34 -0500

Greetings folks,

I've coordinated with Noel Giffin and have been able to set up a mirror of
the Spanky Fractal Database:

    http://spanky.fractint.org/

This has exactly the same content as the primary Spanky web site:

    http://spanky.triumf.ca/

Or at least, it's supposed to. If you notice glaring problems with the
spanky.fractint.org mirror, let me know, and I can look into it.

Damien M. Jones   \\
[e-mail]  \\  Fractalus Galleries & Info:
                    \\  http://www.fractalus.com/

Please do not post my e-mail address on a web site or
in a newsgroup.  Thank you.


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From: Jim Muth <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) FOTD, 09-03-00 (Star-Struck Midget [6]) (c)
Date: 09 Mar 2000 01:28:31 -0500 (EST)


FOTD -- March 09, 2000  (Rating 6)

Fractal enthusiasts and visionaries:

Today's fractal was created by the formula 1/Z-Z+C -- a formula
that obviously can produce nothing of interest in the way of
fractals.  But being unaware of the hopeless situation, I went
ahead with this simple formula and found a fractal.  The fractal
I found rates a six, which is a little above average on my 0 to
10 fractal rating scale.  I named the picture "Star-Struck
Midget" when I noticed the gold star.

It's a rather striking image of the obligatory midget surrounded
by a golden star on a sky-blue background.  The scene may be
viewed by running the parameter file or by downloading the image
from Usenet at:

          <alt.binaries.pictures.fractals>

The image should also be available on Paul Lee's Web site at:

          <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html>

If the picture is not yet on the web site, be patient.  Paul is
busy and sometimes falls a few days behind.

The fractal weather was like summer today, with hot sun and a
temperature of 84F (29C), which was actually a bit too warm for
the fractal cats.

To experience a night's rest, I must now close down the fractal
shoppe for another day.  Until next time, take care, and get in
the fractal spirit.


Jim Muth
[e-mail]


START 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================

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From: "Paul N. Lee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Re: FOTD, 09-03-00 (Star_Struck Midget [6]) (c)
Date: 09 Mar 2000 01:09:58 -0600

Jim Muth wrote:
>
> The image should also be available on Paul Lee's Web site at:
>        <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html>
> If the picture is not yet on the web site, be patient.  Paul is
> busy and sometimes falls a few days behind.
>

Sorry about some recent delays, but had to make a couple of trips to
Minnesota to setup a new LAN at one of our offices and then tie it to
our WAN with the new T1 connection.  Had problems configuring the
CSU/DSU and Router, and setting up the print servers so the UNIX system
and NT Server both recognized them on the Network.

I should be keeping close to home base for awhile, so no more delays in
the foreseeable future.

P.N.L.
http://www.fractalus.com/cgi-bin/theway?ring=fractals&id=43&go

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From: Tim Wegner <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint 20.0.8
Date: 09 Mar 2000 22:49:14 -0600

James asked:

> When I try to get fractint Developer's Version 20.0.8 I end up with 20.0.6
> Developer's Version.  Is this the same thing each as the other.  I'm getting
> from ftp://ftp.fractint.org .  As far as I know I'm doing it right.  Please
> respond ASAP.

I just downloaded

ftp://ftp.fractint.org/fradev.zip

and it does indeed contain 20.0.8. Thgis is *not* the same thing as
20.0.6. The version is reported on the opening screen.

Are you using a web browser to do the FTP transfer? This is a shot
in the dark, but maybe you have fradev.zip in your browser cache
and you are not really re-uploading it. If so, try the reload button.
Jonathan has suggested that I should encode the version in the file
name - then there would be no ambiguity. I'll do that.

The only other thing I can think of is maybe you aren't running the
fractint.exe that you think you are.

Tim


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From: "Tony \(Anthony\) Hanmer" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) What's our population?
Date: 10 Mar 2000 09:41:32 GET

Hi,
I've been meaning to ask for a long time now, what's the number of
subscribers to this conference?  Is it relatively static at the moment, or
are the numbers changing in either direction?

Tony Hanmer
Tbilisi, Georgia
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Subject: (fractint) What's our population?
Date: 10 Mar 2000 09:42:46 GET

Hi,
I've been meaning to ask for a long time now, what's the number of
subscribers to this conference?  Is it relatively static at the moment, or
are the numbers changing in either direction?

Tony Hanmer
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From: Jim Muth <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) FOTD, 10-03-00 (Crop-Top Midget [6]) (c)
Date: 10 Mar 2000 02:14:11 -0500 (EST)


FOTD -- March 10, 2000  (Rating 6)

Fractal enthusiasts and visionaries:

The familiar Mandelbrot set is simply connected.  That is, all
its features are connected to the main body by an infinitesi-
mally thin filament.  To put it more poetically, all the baby
Mandelbrot ponds are connected to the main bay by a thin stream
of water.  Though the shoreline of the M-set is infinite, it is
a single shoreline.

But not all fractals are connected.  The curious fractal created
by the formula Z^(-0.5)-Z^5+C is not connected.  In this fractal
the main bay is surrounded by countless cut-off midget lakes.
Today's fractal illustrates one of these cut-off lakes.  I could
have named the picture "Cut-Off Midget" but I decided on
"Crop-Top Midget", a name that raises a few more eyebrows.

It's a pleasant turquoise and lilac midget, easy on the eyes --
a picture that could give a soothing touch to a dentist's
waiting room.  I find it far more relaxing to observe the image
on the screen however.

Since the parameter file requires over 1/2 hour on a modest
Pentium, I advise picking up the JPEG'd image file from the
Usenet binary newsgroup:

          <alt.binaries.pictures.fractals>

The image is also to be found on Paul Lee's Web site at:

          <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html>

The fractal weather today was partly cloudy and continued
unusually warm, with a small shower in early afternoon.  The
temperature of 78F (25.5C) was just right for the fractal cats,
who spent several hours on the porch once the rain stopped.

Unfortunately, it's now time for me to stop writing, and to shut
down the fractal factory for another day.  The next time will be
in under 24 hours.  Until then, take care, and live and breathe
fractals.


Jim Muth
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k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel):
z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c,
|z| < l
}

END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE==================================


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From: "Tony \(Anthony\) Hanmer" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Tracing L-systems
Date: 10 Mar 2000 21:11:05 GET

Hi,
Now that we have the possibility of making L-systems huge in Fractint at
last, I have another question:
Is there any programme which can output L-systems not as bitmaps but as
vector files?  After all, all they are is collections of straight lines.
Vector output would make the resulting file independent of size for
resolution.

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From: Barry N Merenoff <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Tracing L-systems
Date: 10 Mar 2000 12:25:14 -0500

Actually, a vector file would be just as dependent on resolution
as a bitmap file. Neither is a true fractal above a critical magnificatio=
n.
The only advantage to a vector file would be that at a smaller
magnification it wouldn't be aliased. But you could get the same
effect by shrinking a bitmap in a resampling program.

Sincerely,
        Collin Merenoff

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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [(fractint) What's our population?]
Date: 10 Mar 2000 19:59:24 CST

I just joined yesterday, and majordomo listed 304 subscribers to this lis=
t
after my induction.

Eric
>>"Tony \(Anthony\) Hanmer" <[e-mail]> wrote:
Hi, I've been meaning to ask for a long time now, what's the number of =

subscribers to this conference?  Is it relatively static at the moment, o=
r =

are the numbers changing in either direction?

Tony Hanmer
Tbilisi, Georgia
>>


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From: Jim Muth <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) FOTD, 11-03-00 (One Haggard Midget [4]) (c)
Date: 11 Mar 2000 01:47:43 -0500 (EST)


FOTD -- March 11, 2000 (Rating 4)

Fractal enthusiasts and visionaries:

Another day, another midget.  I'm really becoming obsessed with
these midgets.  Maybe I'll declare April 'no-midget' month and
'no-MandelbrotMix4' month.  Then I'll be able to spend the month
searching new pastures for new types of fractals.  I really need
to be writing some more test formulas.  The M-Mix4 formula makes
things too easy.  Before I found this formula, I wrote at least
one or two test formulas every day.

The formula behind today's image is Z^(-1.5)-3(sqrt(Z))+C.  The
parent fractal is a delicate lacework of scattered bits and
pieces, with but few solid areas.  Today's midget appears deep
in a spiral in one of these solid areas.  The rough appearance
belies the delicateness of its parent fractal.  I named the
picture "One Haggard Midget" as a description more than anything
else.

At 13 minutes on a Pentium, the parameter file is a bit too slow
for comfort.  To ease impatience, the image has been posted to
the Usenet binary newsgroup:

          <alt.binaries.pictures.fractals>

ant to Paul Lee's web site at:

          <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html>

The fractal weather today was once again quite mild.  The hazy
sun and temperature of 68F (20C) were perfect for the fractal
cats, who spent most of the afternoon stretched in their padded
chairs on the porch.

The fractal philosophy is still brewing.  So be patient fans of
wisdom -- the enlightenment will soon be posted.

Until next time, which is 24 hours from now, take care, and
isn't it frustrating to know you're right yet be unable to
convince anyone else of the fact?


Jim Muth
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}

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From: "Tony \(Anthony\) Hanmer" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Tracing L-systems
Date: 11 Mar 2000 21:23:36 GET

>Actually, a vector file would be just as dependent on resolution
>as a bitmap file. Neither is a true fractal above a critical magnification.
>The only advantage to a vector file would be that at a smaller
>magnification it wouldn't be aliased. But you could get the same
>effect by shrinking a bitmap in a resampling program.

...But surely, with L-systems, which are actually made of lines (and not
pixels), a vector output would capture the thing literally perfectly,
whereas a bitmap must approximate...?

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From: Harry Bissell <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Tracing L-systems
Date: 11 Mar 2000 12:39:02 -0500

By the time it gets to the screen.... everything is a bitmap....
or even a printer...
Only a vector plotter would give "true" results... and even that (driven by
stepper motors)
is really a "bitmap"

H^)   harry  (one who lurks most times...)

"Tony (Anthony) Hanmer" wrote:

> >Actually, a vector file would be just as dependent on resolution
> >as a bitmap file. Neither is a true fractal above a critical magnification.
> >The only advantage to a vector file would be that at a smaller
> >magnification it wouldn't be aliased. But you could get the same
> >effect by shrinking a bitmap in a resampling program.
>
> ...But surely, with L-systems, which are actually made of lines (and not
> pixels), a vector output would capture the thing literally perfectly,
> whereas a bitmap must approximate...?
>
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From: Tim Wegner <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) What's our population?
Date: 11 Mar 2000 14:56:41 -0600

Tony asked:

> Hi,
> I've been meaning to ask for a long time now, what's the number of
> subscribers to this conference?  Is it relatively static at the moment, or
> are the numbers changing in either direction?

We are currently at 304. It has been higher, but I would say it is
static. There are constantly people leaving and joining the list.

Tim


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From: Jon Noring <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Reintroduction and Apology
Date: 11 Mar 2000 19:30:11 -0800 (PST)

Hello,

It's been quite a while since I have been in touch with the fractal art
community, having essentially dropped out about a year and a half ago to
pursue an e-book business.  I will continue to work my e-book business
heavily, until either success or failure, and thus will not be actively
involved in any way with fractal art until then.  However, I will devote
a little time here and there to at least monitor what's happening, maybe
even play with Fractint a few hours a month.  I'll follow up this e-mail
with a couple more messages asking some questions so I can come up to speed
on where things currently stand.

Now for my apology.

Back in November my friend Lee Skinner got the following e-mail.  I've
removed the sender's name but it does show my sudden disappearance may have
caused difficulties with many of you, for reasons I'll explain below.  I
do humbly apologize to everybody involved.  I did not handle this properly.


>Lee, are you still in touch with Jon Noring? I was pretty angry, because
>about 2 years ago he asked several of us for our "50 best Fractint pars",
>claiming he was going to represent us. People like myself were too new
>and innocent to question this. After he got pars from folks like myself
>and Linda Allison, he completely disappeared and ceased answering emails.
>I always assumed that he'd stolen the pars to print for his own profit. I
>could still kick myself, because I gave him the pars to many of my
>all-time best fractals, fractals that are being published now.


Here's my e-mail reply directly to this person back in late November:
****************************************************************************

I do humbly apologize for my "disappearance," and for not informing those I
*non-exclusively* represented that, in essence, I put the project on long-
term hold, and likely won't resurrect it.  It is a good idea, but it requires
someone with both the time and resources to promote it.  I found I lacked
both.

And the last year I have been extremely busy.  In the middle of last year I
found a partner to build a business around my first "love", e-books
(electronic books).  Since then, it's been a very intense time, developing a
business plan, hustling trying to secure venture capital funding.  We are
very close to securing about $XX million in final funding (of course, one
never knows for sure until the money is in the bank, as we have twice learned
this year already -- the *hard* way.)

Suffice to say I've been very busy.  I don't even have Fractint installed on
my computer -- I don't even know what version Fractint is at now.  Is the new
Fractint 32-bit?  I was surprised to hear Lee tell me tonight on the phone
about a new fractal engine called "UltraFractal", which maybe I'll check on
sometime in 2002 when I have a breather.  :^)

Regarding your pars, I have not made any prints of them -- I don't even
recall making any high-res images from them.  I don't even know where your
pars are.  I do believe they are on a burned CD-ROM, encrypted in a ZIP file
and only I know the password, if I can remember it.  If I die, nobody will
even be able to read them without breaking the encryption.  I have kept to
my contractual obligation to you and to everybody else not to reveal them to
anyone, nor to make prints or transparencies of them for sale without your
contractual agreement as to the terms.

Again, I apologize to everybody involved for my disappearance.  It was very
tacky, I know.

And do feel free to post this reply to Fractal-Art if it still is active.  I
haven't been subscribed to that mailing list for well over a year, even
though I was the one who created it.

Your pars (and those of everyone else) are safe, and they will never be
revealed, nor ever used at any time in the future without your express
permission.  I do appreciate your sharing them with me -- I recall you had
many wonderful fractal images, and I hope that the last year you have been
successful in selling prints of them, and making lots of people happy (and
make a few dollars as well.)

I have thought that if my e-book business is successful (yes, it is a long-
shot, to be realistic), that I'd have the resources to build a fractal art
museum/gallery displaying only the nicest fractal images printed at museum
quality at very high resolution (probably Ilfochrome prints).  I'd be happy
to have some of your images represented in the gallery.  But it will be a
while before this dream will become a reality, if ever.  So maybe you will
hear from me in 2-3 years.  :^)

****************************************************************************


Anyway, hopefully this will further explain my absence, and my apologies to
everybody I worked with "behind-the-scenes" a couple years ago.  If I do pick
up the fractal art business again, I will run it differently and will put my
own resources behind it to make it really work.  I have several new ideas
(some of them obtained from working to build a large business) which will
directly transfer to fractal art promotion and sales, to the direct benefit
of fractal artists everywhere.

I look forward to seeing everybody around in Fractal-Land.  :^)

Jon Noring


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From: Jon Noring <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) A question on UltraFractal and Fractint
Date: 11 Mar 2000 19:54:53 -0800 (PST)

Hello,

In trying to update myself of what's happening in the fractal art world,
I've noticed that last year a new fractal generator was introduced:
UltraFractal.

I downloaded it today to try it out, and have been working on comparing
it with Fractint (version 19.6 -- haven't tried 20.0 yet).

I like its interface a lot, and I see many ideas in it that could be
incorporated into the 32-bit GUI-based Fractint I've been hoping to see
for quite a while (the old Windows 3.1 port of Fractint is NOT what I
had in mind.)  (Now there's rumbling of 64-bit operating systems.  :^) )

First question is the obvious one -- how do they each compare feature-wise;
what are their relative strengths and weaknesses?

My second question revolves around difficulties I am having in getting
UltraFractal to read many of the Fractint formulas I have in my collection.
Simply, UltraFractal won't read them without giving an error message.  And
for many when UltraFractal does read them, it generates a fractal image
partway and then stops.  Do Fractint formulas have to be formatted in a
certain way?  Are there certain Fractint formula features and settings that
UltraFractal won't recognize?

Anyway, that's enough in this message.  I have one more to follow regarding
fractal art prints.

Thanks.

Jon Noring


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From: Jon Noring <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) A question on museum-quality fractal art prints
Date: 11 Mar 2000 20:20:30 -0800 (PST)

Hello,

As many of the old-timers know, 2-3 years ago I was looking into how to
produce the highest quality prints from fractal images.  At the time, I
settled upon making 8x10 color transparencies using a Kodak LVT, which
directly prints onto the film at 2032 dpi (res80).  Then the transparency
can be used in a commercial photo-enlarger to make reversal prints, either
Ilfochrome (the old Cibachrome which has breathtaking color), or other
reversal prints such as Fuji's which is very good.  The image size I
generated for the Kodak LVT was 18432x13824, which is an 18x18 array of
1024x768 images (using Fractint's "Divide and Conquer").  Several in the
fractal community have had me help them make Kodak LVT transparencies of
fractal images and hopefully they will comment.

The advantage of this compared to ink on paper processes (such as the
"Giclee'"...Iris inkjet) was greater color gamut, better approximating RGB
color space (inks just cannot reproduce saturated colors very well), higher
resolution, longer display life measured in decades (Ilfochrome, for example,
is highly resistant to fading), and fairly low cost when a large number are
made at one time (in an enlarger, once setup, one can run through a lot of
prints in a short amount of time, while on an Iris, each one takes some
time which does not allow substantial discounts for large quantities.)  Of
course, the Iris and related inkjets have their advantages, most notably
the ability to render the image on a plethora of different papers.

O.k., that was two years ago and I have not been keeping abreast of recent
developments.  I do know that direct to photographic print paper processes
have recently become more commonplace, including the Durst Lambda and the
LightJet.  In these devices, the digital image is transferred directly to a
photograph print using RGB lasers, bypassing any photographic process.  In
terms of quality (color accuracy) these will have the 8x10 transparency -->
print from enlargement beat by a mile since the process can be precisely
calibrated to a particular photographic paper for all colors, so it is
possible to render RGB color gamut much more closely than with photographic
enlargement using a fixed white light source.

Anyway, with that introduction, I'd like to hear what the current state-of-
the-art is.  Are most here who produce high quality prints using Iris and
similar commercial inkjets?  Have they finally developed very bright and
saturated inks that also have a long life and high resistance to fading?  Is
anybody here using a Durst Lambda and/or LightJet to make prints of fractal
images?

I look forward to any comments on this topic.

Thanks.

Jon Noring


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From: Jim Muth <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) FOTD, 12-03-00 (The Duke of Earl [5]) (c)
Date: 12 Mar 2000 00:48:11 -0500 (EST)


FOTD -- March 12, 2000  (Rating 5)

Fractal enthusiasts and visionaries:

I have named today's fractal picture "The Duke of Earl", though
I've totally forgotten the train of thought that led me to this
name.  The image has little in common with that old Doo-Wop song
of the same name, so I doubt if the name came from there.

The expression calculated by the MandelbrotMix4 formula to
create today's image is (Z^1.25)-(Z^(-1.75))+(1/C).  The parent
fractal of today's midget consists of a distorted M-set with a
smaller M-set NNE of it.  Today's scene is located on the east
side of a larger midget, which is located out near the tip of
the negative tail of this smaller M-set.

Now that we know just where we are, it's time to reveal the good
news that the parameter file takes only 2-1/2 minutes to
complete.  The download of the image file might be even faster
-- you'll never know unless you try.  That image file can be
found posted to the Usenet binary group:

          <alt.binaries.pictures.fractals>

and to Paul's Web site at:

          <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html>

The fractal weather today was unsettled, with heavy clouds and
occasional thunder-showers.  The temperature of 50F (10C) was
too damp and chilly for the cats, who spent the day curled in
their beds.

My philosophical energies today were once again exhausted
replying to letters on the philofractal list.  But I'll try
again tomorrow to get some philosophy composed in time for the
FOTD.  Until next time, take care, and are fractals really for
real?


Jim Muth
[e-mail]


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  CzMBzKBzJAzI2z49zH<5>5zA5z94z7<3>1z3wz9<13>Gz3
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frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth
a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2),
g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j,
k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel):
z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c,
|z| < l
}

END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE==================================


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From: Jon Noring <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Re: [fractal-art] A question on museum-quality fractal art prints
Date: 11 Mar 2000 21:54:45 -0800 (PST)

Also sprach Kerry Mitchell:

>The "old" ways of Ilfochrome, Iris, and Lambda are still with us, and the
>photographic methods (Ilfochrome and Lambda) appear to be the more popular
>for high quality prints, from what I've seen.  I tend to prefer Ilfochrome
>slightly over Lambda, but it's very close.  I've heard that archival
>giclee inks are around which will rival an Ilfochrome print for longevity,
>but I haven't seen any such prints.

The problem with the longer-life ink prints is that the inks typically
are less saturated, so you trade off brilliance for life.  This is less
of an issue with photographic prints.

Many fractal images are meant to be saturated and brilliant, and unless
one uses fluorescent inks (which have a very short life), photographic
prints are the best way to render these images.  Not like viewing on an
RGB monitor, but much better than inks can do.


>Janet Preslar and I have written a tutorial on printing fractals, which
>can be found here:
>
>http://www.parkenet.org/jp/print.html
>
>It discusses both the high end, museum quality prints, and the lower end,
>too.

I visited it and it is full of good information.  However, I am surprised you
left out the LightJet, the direct competitor to the Durst Lambda.  The
LightJet, if it is still in business, as of two years ago had slightly higher
resolution than the Durst Lambda and was specially calibrated to run with
Ilfochrome!  Ilfochrome normally has contrast problems, but in the LightJet
the contrast issues are rendered moot -- and the colors can be very accurate
to what one sees on a monitor.  There are a few labs that use the LightJet
with Ilfochrome, and I hope soon to submit a test or two.  (I think it is
possible, too, that some places may be using Ilfochrome on the Durst Lambda).

Other important issues are mounting and lamination, which I won't get into
here.  Suffice to say, though, that properly mounting a glossy Ilfochrome
on 1/8" aluminum plate is spectacular -- orange peel is almost non-existant,
and aluminum makes a better substrate than gatorfoam and similar mounting
materials, no matter how carefully the mounting is done.

Btw, I've made many 8x10 Kodak LVT positive transparencies, and this is an
excellent way to go.  Replicolor Labs in Salt Lake City only charges $75
for an 8x10" positive transparency onto Fuji Provia film (and $55.00 for a
4x5).  Just send them an 18432x13824 image for the 8x10, specify res80 (2032
dpi) and they'll make the trans.  Their LVT can also do res120 (3048 dpi) but
cannot do so at 8x10, but can on a 4x5 (I've worked out the best image
resolution for 4x5's at res120 but don't have the numbers handy at the
moment).  They've tried to render an 8x10 at res120 (using an image Rollo
Silver graciously let me use for this experiment) but the Kodak LVT
"file system" had trouble with that large of an image.

Well, enough techno-jargon on the Kodak LVT.  :^)

Jon Noring


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From: Steve Wray <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Fractals in *parallel* ?!?!?
Date: 12 Mar 2000 19:14:29 +1300

Hi there,
I have been toying for some time with the idea of using a cluster of Linux
machines
to generate fractals in parallel.

My algorithm is quite simple and very efficient on heterogenous parallel
architectures
such as the Beowulf model.

Code reuse would seem to be appropriate since fractint has some extremely
good fractal generating algorithms.

However, I'm not a hugely experienced programmer in this sort of thing!
This is just
a hobbyist/curiosity motivated project.

I now have about 8 machines on which I'm starting to install linux and
network
for this project. They will be accessible from the internet. It would
probably be quite simple to form a collaborative group to develop this
system.

Any offers of help/collaboration will be considered!----------
The box said "Requires Windows 95 or better." I can't understand why it
won't work on my Linux computer.

(If you want my PGP public key send me an email with "get public key" as
the subject.)

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From: "Morgan L. Owens" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Tracing L-systems
Date: 12 Mar 2000 20:49:38 +1300

At 21:23 11/03/2000 GET, you wrote:
>>Actually, a vector file would be just as dependent on resolution
>>as a bitmap file. Neither is a true fractal above a critical magnification.
>>The only advantage to a vector file would be that at a smaller
>>magnification it wouldn't be aliased. But you could get the same
>>effect by shrinking a bitmap in a resampling program.
>
>...But surely, with L-systems, which are actually made of lines (and not
>pixels), a vector output would capture the thing literally perfectly,
>whereas a bitmap must approximate...?
>
Up to the accuracy of the vector arithmetic used - since computers don't
tend to measure lengths with infinite precision, one ends up with rounding
errors creeping in at very high detail.

A philosophical issue is that any L-system that is actually _drawn_ is done
so only approximately (except in special and boring circumstances). One
would need to run the L-system for an infinite number of iterations (at
infinite precision) for literal perfection.

Morgan L. Owens
"take five paces west and dig under the tree you collide with."


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From: Steve Wray <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (fractint) Xfractint 3.11 binary available
Date: 13 Mar 2000 11:53:28 +1300

Hi there!

Having toyed with xfractint and fractint, I think one of the most useful features
that could be put into the unix version would be a much higher level of control
over the disk video mode (so that it doesn't *need* X) and the ability to run
it as a background task (ie without the cute console output)
Also, being able to send signals to the process and get it to save its current
work to an image file would be great!
I'm not much of a programmer or else I'd have had a go at these mods myself...
:(

I have a 486DX4-100 running linux. Its not running X windows and I happily leave
it for days generating fractals... As it is, if I telnet into it and run xfractint
with command line parameters I have to leave that telnet session open otherwise
the xfractint process dies...

On Tuesday, 22 February 2000 19:27, Scott D. Boyd [SMTP:[e-mail]] wrote:
> To all Linux/fractint fans out there:
>
> A binary package of Xfractint 3.11, based on fractint 20.0.7 is now avaible at:
> http://www.fastlane.net/~sdboyd/xfractint.html .
> (The link to download the .tar.gz file is available on that page.)
>
> This binary was compiled and is running great on Linux-Mandrake 6.1, kernel
> 2.2.13, xfree86 3.3.5 and KDE 1.1.2. (That setup is running on an AMD K6-2 -
> 450Mhz box.) It should run OK on most any 2.2.x kernel, and GNOME or KDE 1.1.x.
> Will it run on older kernels and older distributions? Install it and find out,
> let me know...
>
> Scott D. Boyd
>
>
> --
> email:  [e-mail]
> http://www.fastlane.net/~sdboyd/
> Introducing -- Windows 2000 !!
> (Don't try this at home... or at work, either.)
>
>
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From: Guy Marson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) minilake.bat, a little animation..
Date: 13 Mar 2000 02:35:43 +0100

Hi fractinters..

here is a batch (with .frm and 2 .par files) for a little animation,
dedicated to Sylvie Gallet and all the other enthusiasts writing prg's for
fractint..

You must use Fractint ver.: 20.0.8 to run this .bat!
Separate the different sections with an editor.
Copy all the sections (of this file) as separate files into your
Fractint-DIR  ..
Run the "minilake.bat" ..
Create the animation with DTA.EXE (ver.2.2)

Enjoy it!


-> rename the different sections as indicated..

->   there must be    a "minilake.bat"
                      a "middle.par"
                      a "startend.par"
-> last but not least a "lake-is.frm"


PS: if somebody is interested in a larger  .BAT, please let me know..

    Cheers,

    Guy Marson



****************************************************************************
********************************
This is the batch-file. Rename it as "minilake.bat"
Note: every line in the .bat must start with: fractint!!
****************************************************************************
********************************

fractint @startend.PAR center-mag=-0.04000/0.00000/3.450/1.00/-90.0
params=0.33064/0.00700/2.00000/0.02000/-46.00000/5.00000
fractint @startend.PAR center-mag=-0.03500/0.00000/3.394/1.00/-90.0
params=0.33083/0.00581/2.00000/0.03000/-45.25000/5.00000
fractint @startend.PAR center-mag=-0.03000/0.00000/3.338/1.00/-90.0
params=0.33103/0.00463/2.00000/0.04000/-44.50000/5.00000
fractint @startend.PAR center-mag=-0.02500/0.00000/3.281/1.00/-90.0
params=0.33122/0.00344/2.00000/0.05000/-43.75000/5.00000
fractint @startend.PAR center-mag=-0.02000/0.00000/3.225/1.00/-90.0
params=0.33142/0.00225/2.00000/0.06000/-43.00000/5.00000
fractint @startend.PAR center-mag=-0.01500/0.00000/3.169/1.00/-90.0
params=0.33161/0.00106/2.00000/0.07000/-42.25000/5.00000
fractint @startend.PAR center-mag=-0.01000/0.00000/3.113/1.00/-90.0
params=0.33181/-0.00012/2.00000/0.08000/-41.50000/5.00000
fractint @startend.PAR center-mag=-0.00500/0.00000/3.056/1.00/-90.0
params=0.33200/-0.00131/2.00000/0.09000/-40.75000/5.00000
REM this is the start of the middle-section
fractint @middle.PAR center-mag=0.00000/0.00000/3.000/1.00/-90.0
params=0.33220/-0.00250/2.00000/0.10000/-40.00000/5.00000
fractint @middle.PAR center-mag=0.00500/0.00000/2.944/1.00/-90.0
params=0.33239/-0.00369/2.00000/0.11000/-39.25000/5.00000
fractint @middle.PAR center-mag=0.01000/0.00000/2.888/1.00/-90.0
params=0.33259/-0.00487/2.00000/0.12000/-38.50000/5.00000
fractint @middle.PAR center-mag=0.01500/0.00000/2.831/1.00/-90.0
params=0.33278/-0.00606/2.00000/0.13000/-37.75000/5.00000
fractint @middle.PAR center-mag=0.02000/0.00000/2.775/1.00/-90.0
params=0.33298/-0.00725/2.00000/0.14000/-37.00000/5.00000
fractint @middle.PAR center-mag=0.02500/0.00000/2.719/1.00/-90.0
params=0.33317/-0.00844/2.00000/0.15000/-36.25000/5.00000
fractint @middle.PAR center-mag=0.03000/0.00000/2.663/1.00/-90.0
params=0.33337/-0.00962/2.00000/0.16000/-35.50000/5.00000
fractint @middle.PAR center-mag=0.03500/0.00000/2.606/1.00/-90.0
params=0.33356/-0.01081/2.00000/0.17000/-34.75000/5.00000
fractint @middle.PAR center-mag=0.04000/0.00000/2.550/1.00/-90.0
params=0.33376/-0.01200/2.00000/0.18000/-34.00000/5.00000
fractint @middle.PAR center-mag=0.04500/0.00000/2.494/1.00/-90.0
params=0.33395/-0.01319/2.00000/0.19000/-33.25000/5.00000
fractint @middle.PAR center-mag=0.05000/0.00000/2.438/1.00/-90.0
params=0.33415/-0.01437/2.00000/0.20000/-32.50000/5.00000
fractint @middle.PAR center-mag=0.05500/0.00000/2.381/1.00/-90.0
params=0.33434/-0.01556/2.00000/0.21000/-31.75000/5.00000
fractint @middle.PAR center-mag=0.06000/0.00000/2.325/1.00/-90.0
params=0.33454/-0.01675/2.00000/0.22000/-31.00000/5.00000
fractint @middle.PAR center-mag=0.06500/0.00000/2.269/1.00/-90.0
params=0.33473/-0.01794/2.00000/0.23000/-30.25000/5.00000
fractint @middle.PAR center-mag=0.07000/0.00000/2.213/1.00/-90.0
params=0.33493/-0.01912/2.00000/0.24000/-29.50000/5.00000
fractint @middle.PAR center-mag=0.07500/0.00000/2.156/1.00/-90.0
params=0.33512/-0.02031/2.00000/0.25000/-28.75000/5.00000
fractint @middle.PAR center-mag=0.08000/0.00000/2.100/1.00/-90.0
params=0.33532/-0.02150/2.00000/0.26000/-28.00000/5.00000
fractint @middle.PAR center-mag=0.08500/0.00000/2.044/1.00/-90.0
params=0.33551/-0.02269/2.00000/0.27000/-27.25000/5.00000
fractint @middle.PAR center-mag=0.09000/0.00000/1.988/1.00/-90.0
params=0.33571/-0.02387/2.00000/0.28000/-26.50000/5.00000
fractint @middle.PAR center-mag=0.09500/0.00000/1.931/1.00/-90.0
params=0.33590/-0.02506/2.00000/0.29000/-25.75000/5.00000
fractint @middle.PAR center-mag=0.10000/0.00000/1.875/1.00/-90.0
params=0.33610/-0.02625/2.00000/0.30000/-25.00000/5.00000
fractint @middle.PAR center-mag=0.10500/0.00000/1.819/1.00/-90.0
params=0.33629/-0.02744/2.00000/0.31000/-24.25000/5.00000
fractint @middle.PAR center-mag=0.11000/0.00000/1.763/1.00/-90.0
params=0.33649/-0.02862/2.00000/0.32000/-23.50000/5.00000
fractint @middle.PAR center-mag=0.11500/0.00000/1.706/1.00/-90.0
params=0.33668/-0.02981/2.00000/0.33000/-22.75000/5.00000
fractint @middle.PAR center-mag=0.12000/0.00000/1.650/1.00/-90.0
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fractint @middle.PAR center-mag=0.12500/0.00000/1.594/1.00/-90.0
params=0.33707/-0.03219/2.00000/0.35000/-21.25000/5.00000
fractint @middle.PAR center-mag=0.13000/0.00000/1.538/1.00/-90.0
params=0.33727/-0.03337/2.00000/0.36000/-20.50000/5.00000
fractint @middle.PAR center-mag=0.13500/0.00000/1.481/1.00/-90.0
params=0.33746/-0.03456/2.00000/0.37000/-19.75000/5.00000
fractint @middle.PAR center-mag=0.14000/0.00000/1.425/1.00/-90.0
params=0.33766/-0.03575/2.00000/0.38000/-19.00000/5.00000
fractint @middle.PAR center-mag=0.14500/0.00000/1.369/1.00/-90.0
params=0.33785/-0.03694/2.00000/0.39000/-18.25000/5.00000
fractint @middle.PAR center-mag=0.15000/0.00000/1.313/1.00/-90.0
params=0.33805/-0.03812/2.00000/0.40000/-17.50000/5.00000
fractint @middle.PAR center-mag=0.15500/0.00000/1.256/1.00/-90.0
params=0.33824/-0.03931/2.00000/0.41000/-16.75000/5.00000
fractint @middle.PAR center-mag=0.16000/0.00000/1.200/1.00/-90.0
params=0.33844/-0.04050/2.00000/0.42000/-16.00000/5.00000
fractint @middle.PAR center-mag=0.16500/0.00000/1.144/1.00/-90.0
params=0.33863/-0.04169/2.00000/0.43000/-15.25000/5.00000
fractint @middle.PAR center-mag=0.17000/0.00000/1.088/1.00/-90.0
params=0.33883/-0.04287/2.00000/0.44000/-14.50000/5.00000
fractint @middle.PAR center-mag=0.17500/0.00000/1.031/1.00/-90.0
params=0.33902/-0.04406/2.00000/0.45000/-13.75000/5.00000
fractint @middle.PAR center-mag=0.18000/0.00000/0.975/1.00/-90.0
params=0.33922/-0.04525/2.00000/0.46000/-13.00000/5.00000
fractint @middle.PAR center-mag=0.18500/0.00000/0.919/1.00/-90.0
params=0.33941/-0.04644/2.00000/0.47000/-12.25000/5.00000
fractint @middle.PAR center-mag=0.19000/0.00000/0.863/1.00/-90.0
params=0.33961/-0.04762/2.00000/0.48000/-11.50000/5.00000
fractint @middle.PAR center-mag=0.19500/0.00000/0.806/1.00/-90.0
params=0.33980/-0.04881/2.00000/0.49000/-10.75000/5.00000
fractint @middle.PAR center-mag=0.20000/0.00000/0.750/1.00/-90.0
params=0.34000/-0.05000/2.00000/0.50000/-10.00000/5.00000
REM this is the start of the END-section
fractint @startend.PAR center-mag=0.20500/0.00000/0.694/1.00/-90.0
params=0.34019/-0.05119/2.00000/0.51000/-9.25000/5.00000
fractint @startend.PAR center-mag=0.21000/0.00000/0.638/1.00/-90.0
params=0.34039/-0.05237/2.00000/0.52000/-8.50000/5.00000
fractint @startend.PAR center-mag=0.21500/0.00000/0.581/1.00/-90.0
params=0.34058/-0.05356/2.00000/0.53000/-7.75000/5.00000
fractint @startend.PAR center-mag=0.22000/0.00000/0.525/1.00/-90.0
params=0.34078/-0.05475/2.00000/0.54000/-7.00000/5.00000
fractint @startend.PAR center-mag=0.22500/0.00000/0.469/1.00/-90.0
params=0.34097/-0.05594/2.00000/0.55000/-6.25000/5.00000
fractint @startend.PAR center-mag=0.23000/0.00000/0.413/1.00/-90.0
params=0.34117/-0.05712/2.00000/0.56000/-5.50000/5.00000
fractint @startend.PAR center-mag=0.23500/0.00000/0.356/1.00/-90.0
params=0.34136/-0.05831/2.00000/0.57000/-4.75000/5.00000
fractint @startend.PAR center-mag=0.24000/0.00000/0.300/1.00/-90.0
params=0.34156/-0.05950/2.00000/0.58000/-4.00000/5.00000
fractint @startend.PAR center-mag=0.24500/0.00000/0.244/1.00/-90.0
params=0.34175/-0.06069/2.00000/0.59000/-3.25000/5.00000
fractint @startend.PAR center-mag=0.25000/0.00000/0.188/1.00/-90.0
params=0.34195/-0.06187/2.00000/0.60000/-2.50000/5.00000
fractint @startend.PAR center-mag=0.25500/0.00000/0.131/1.00/-90.0
params=0.34214/-0.06306/2.00000/0.61000/-1.75000/5.00000
fractint @startend.PAR center-mag=0.26000/0.00000/0.075/1.00/-90.0
params=0.34234/-0.06425/2.00000/0.62000/-1.00000/5.00000
fractint @startend.PAR center-mag=0.26500/0.00000/0.019/1.00/-90.0
params=0.34253/-0.06544/2.00000/0.63000/-0.25000/5.00000
dta lake*.gif /ominilake
REM this is the end of the batch-file

************************************************************************
this is the parameter-file for the middle-section. NO headder and else!!
rename it as "middle.par".
************************************************************************

  reset=2000 type=formula formulafile=lake-is1.frm
  formulaname=lake-gmc ismand=n function=recip/ident passes=1
  center-mag=1.33218/0.000333163/0.3971542/1/-90
  params=0.332288/-0.05/2/0.8/-16/5 float=y maxiter=300 inside=0
  invert=1/0/0 decomp=256 periodicity=0 viewwindows=1/0.75/yes/0/0
  cyclerange=0/255 video=sf5 sound=no batch=yes savename=lake0000
  colors=HPP<13>OWWPXXPXX<2>RZZSZZTZZTZZU__<4>W``W``Xaa<3>XaaXaaYaa<52>www\
  wwwxxx<2>yyyyyyxxx<120>3CC3CC2BB<2>0AA0AA1BB<30>HOO

****************************************************************************
this is the parameter-file for the start/end-sections. NO headder and else!!
rename it as "startend.par".
****************************************************************************

  reset=2000 type=formula formulafile=lake-is1.frm
  formulaname=lake-gmc0 ismand=n function=recip/ident passes=1
  center-mag=1.33218/0.000333163/0.3971542/1/-90
  params=0.332288/-0.05/2/0.8/-16/5 float=y maxiter=300 inside=0
  invert=1/0/0 decomp=256 periodicity=0 viewwindows=1/0.75/yes/0/0
  cyclerange=0/255 video=sf5 sound=no batch=yes savename=lake0000
  colors=HPP<13>OWWPXXPXX<2>RZZSZZTZZTZZU__<4>W``W``Xaa<3>XaaXaaYaa<52>www\
  wwwxxx<2>yyyyyyxxx<120>3CC3CC2BB<2>0AA0AA1BB<30>HOO


*************************************************************
These are the formulas for the middle- and startend-sections.
Rename it as "lake-is1.frm".
*************************************************************


lake-gmc { ; Formula uses PHC to cast "soft" shadow
           ; October 1996 by Jan Maarten van der Valk
           ; 'periodicity=0' and 'passes=1' recommended
  x=real(scrnpix)/real(scrnmax), y=(imag(scrnmax)-imag(scrnpix))/(rea\
  l(scrnmax)*0.75), z=x+flip(y)
  chrF1 = x<0.15372||(y<0.90475&&y>0.88525)||y>0.9505&&x>0.13422&&x<0\
  .21372
  chrr2 = x>0.22872&&x<0.24822&&y<0.9325||(abs(cabs(z+(-0.26875,-0.89\
  247))-0.03028)<0.00975&&y>0.89247)
  chra3 = abs(cabs(z+(-0.35678,-0.8995))-0.02325)<0.00975&&x<0.35678|\
  |(abs(cabs(z+(-0.37178,-0.8995))-0.02325)<0.00975&&x>0.37178)&&y>0.\
  8995||((abs(cabs(z+(-0.35678,-0.853))-0.02325)<0.00975&&x<0.35678)|\
  |(abs(cabs(z+(-0.37178,-0.853))-0.02325)<0.00975&&x>0.37178))||(x>0\
  .35678&&x<0.37178&&(y<0.8395||(y>0.913&&y<0.9325)||(y>0.8665&&y<0.8\
  86)))||(x>0.38528&&x<0.40478&&y<0.8995)
  xc=1*x
  chrc4 = abs(cabs(z+(-0.47603,-0.87625))-0.0465)<0.00975&&(x<0.47603\
  ||y>xc+0.40022||y<-xc+1.35228)
  xt=1*x
  chrt5 = abs(cabs(z+(-0.58598,-0.86003))-0.03028)<0.00975&&y<0.86003\
  ||(x>0.54595&&x<0.56545&&y>0.86003)||(x>0.53081&&x<0.59573&&y>0.913\
  &&y<0.9325)
  chri6 = x>0.64101&&x<0.66051&&(y<0.931||y>0.9505)
  chrn7 = x>0.67551&&x<0.69501&&y<0.9325||(abs(cabs(z+(-0.71554,-0.89\
  247))-0.03028)<0.00975&&y>0.89247)||(x>0.73607&&x<0.75557&&y<0.8924\
  7)
  chrt8 = abs(cabs(z+(-0.82575,-0.86003))-0.03028)<0.00975&&y<0.86003\
  ||(x>0.78572&&x<0.80522&&y>0.86003)||(x>0.77057&&x<0.8355&&y>0.913&\
  &y<0.9325)
  test1 = chrF1||chrr2||chra3||chrc4||chrt5||chri6||chrn7||chrt8&&y>0\
  .82&&y<0.97
  chrT9 = y>0.3085&&x>0.03158&&x<0.07058||(x>0.04783&&x<0.05433)
  chrh10 = x>0.07708&&x<0.08358||(abs(cabs(z+(-0.09394,-0.27438))-0.0\
  1361)<0.00325&&y>0.27438)||(x>0.1043&&x<0.1108&&y<0.27438)
  chre11 = abs(cabs(z+(-0.14167,-0.27438))-0.02112)<0.00325&&(x<0.141\
  67||y>0.27329||y<0.27004)||(y>0.27329&&y<0.27979&&x>0.12055&&x<0.16\
  28)
  xCN=2.5*x
  chrN13 = x>0.20505&&x<0.21155||(x>0.23105&&x<0.23805)||(y>-xCN+0.82\
  762&&y<-xCN+0.84512)
  chre14 = abs(cabs(z+(-0.26892,-0.27438))-0.02112)<0.00325&&(x<0.268\
  92||y>0.27329||y<0.27004)||(y>0.27329&&y<0.27979&&x>0.2478&&x<0.290\
  05)
  xv=3*x
  chrv15 = y>-xv+1.19814&&y<-xv+1.2187||y<xv-0.69814&&y>xv-0.7187&&y<\
  0.29875
  chre16 = abs(cabs(z+(-0.37002,-0.27438))-0.02112)<0.00325&&(x<0.370\
  02||y>0.27329||y<0.27004)||(y>0.27329&&y<0.27979&&x>0.3489&&x<0.391\
  15)
  chrr17 = x>0.4009&&x<0.4074&&y<0.29875||(abs(cabs(z+(-0.41776,-0.28\
  189))-0.01361)<0.00325&&y>0.28189)
  chrE19 = x<0.48012||y<0.2565||(y<0.28575&&y>0.27925)||y>0.3085&&x>0\
  .47362&&x<0.50612
  chrn20 = x>0.51262&&x<0.51912&&y<0.29875||(abs(cabs(z+(-0.52948,-0.\
  28189))-0.01361)<0.00325&&y>0.28189)||(x>0.53984&&x<0.54634&&y<0.28\
  189)
  chrd21 = x>0.5894&&x<0.5959||(abs(cabs(z+(-0.57721,-0.27438))-0.021\
  12)<0.00325&&x<0.5894)
  chri22 = x>0.6024&&x<0.6089&&(y<0.302||y>0.3085)
  chrn23 = x>0.6154&&x<0.6219&&y<0.29875||(abs(cabs(z+(-0.63226,-0.28\
  189))-0.01361)<0.00325&&y>0.28189)||(x>0.64262&&x<0.64912&&y<0.2818\
  9)
  chrg24 = x>0.69218&&x<0.69868&&y<0.29875||(abs(cabs(z+(-0.67999,-0.\
  27438))-0.02112)<0.00325&&x<0.69218)&&y>0.23822||(abs(cabs(z+(-0.67\
  715,-0.23822))-0.01828)<0.00325&&y<=0.23822)
  chrS26 = abs(cabs(z+(-0.75555,-0.29713))-0.01462)<0.00325&&(x<=0.75\
  555||y>0.29713)||(abs(cabs(z+(-0.75555,-0.26787))-0.01462)<0.00325&\
  &(x>0.75555||y<0.26787))
  chrt27 = abs(cabs(z+(-0.80359,-0.26686))-0.01361)<0.00325&&y<0.2668\
  6||(x>0.78673&&x<0.79323&&y>0.26686)||(x>0.77993&&x<0.80684&&y>0.29\
  225&&y<0.29875)
  chro28 = abs(cabs(z+(-0.85133,-0.27438))-0.02112)<0.00325
  chrr29 = x>0.8822&&x<0.8887&&y<0.29875||(abs(cabs(z+(-0.89906,-0.28\
  189))-0.01361)<0.00325&&y>0.28189)
  xy=2.5*x
  chry30 = y<xy-2.10481&&y>xy-2.12231||(y>-xy+2.60481&&y<-xy+2.62231)\
  &&y>xy-2.12231&&y<0.29875&&y>0.2175
  test2 = chrT9||chrh10||chre11||chrN13||chre14||chrv15||chre16||chrr\
  17||chrE19||chrn20||chrd21||chri22||chrn23||chrS26||chrt27||chro28|\
  |chrr29&&y>0.25||chrg24||chry30&&y<0.315
  test=test1||test2
  test0=test0&&whitesq
  test0=((test0||test)==0)
  f1=fn1(real(p3)*fn2(imag(p1)*pixel))
  f2=1/(imag(p2)*pixel)
  pixel=(test==0)*f2+test*f1
  ; Import of formula 'Mandel_lake' from file LAKE-SGB.FRM
  ; p1: Julia seed
  ; real part of p2: bailout value
  ; imag part of p2: 0 = lake transform disabled
  ;                  any value between 0 and 100: water level in % of
  ;                  the screen height (0 = bottom, 100 = top)
  ; real part of waves: amplitude of the wave (try 0.2)
  ; imag part of waves: frequency (try 300)

  ; This formula uses the new predefined variables:
  ; center  = (x  , y)
  ; magxmag = (mag, xmagfactor)
  ; rotskew = (rot, skew)

  bailout = real(p2)

  ; Lake transformation
  ; -------------------
  waves = 0.2,200

  if (imag(p3) > 0 && imag(p3) <= 100)

  level = imag(p3) / 100         ; water level
  ampl = real(waves)                ; amplitude of the wave
  freq = imag(waves)                ; frequency

  angle = real(rotskew * pi / 180)
  exp_irot = exp(-flip(angle))
  h = 1 / real(magxmag)
  w = h / 0.75 * imag(magxmag)
  tanskew = tan(imag(rotskew * pi / 180))
  u = 2 * w * exp_irot
  v = 2 * h * (tanskew + flip(1)) * exp_irot
  z3rd = center + (-w-h*tanskew - flip(h)) * exp_irot
  z = pixel - z3rd
  b = imag(conj(u)*z) / imag(conj(u)*v)
  if (b <= level)
  dy = level - b
  z = z + 2*dy * (1+ampl*sin(freq*dy^0.2)) * v
  endif
  z = z + z3rd
  else
  z = pixel
  endif

  if (ismand)
  c = z
  else
  c = p1
  endif


  :
  z = z*z + c
  |z| <= bailout
  }

lake-gmc0 { ; Formula uses PHC to cast "soft" shadow
            ; October 1996 by Jan Maarten van der Valk
            ; 'periodicity=0' and 'passes=1' recommended
  x=real(scrnpix)/real(scrnmax), y=(imag(scrnmax)-imag(scrnpix))/(rea\
  l(scrnmax)*0.75), z=x+flip(y)
  chrDT1 = y<1.5&&x>0.5&&x<0.5
  test1 = chrDT1&&y>1.5&&y<1.5
  chrDT2 = y<1.5065&&x>0.49675&&x<0.50325
  test2 = chrDT2&&y>1.5&&y<1.565
  test=test1||test2
  test0=test0&&whitesq
  test0=((test0||test)==0)
  f1=fn1(real(p3)*fn2(imag(p1)*pixel))
  f2=1/(imag(p2)*pixel)
  pixel=(test==0)*f2+test*f1
  ; Import of formula 'Mandel_lake' from file LAKE-SGB.FRM
  ; p1: Julia seed
  ; real part of p2: bailout value
  ; imag part of p2: 0 = lake transform disabled
  ;                  any value between 0 and 100: water level in % of
  ;                  the screen height (0 = bottom, 100 = top)
  ; real part of waves: amplitude of the wave (try 0.2)
  ; imag part of waves: frequency (try 300)

  ; This formula uses the new predefined variables:
  ; center  = (x  , y)
  ; magxmag = (mag, xmagfactor)
  ; rotskew = (rot, skew)

  bailout = real(p2)

  ; Lake transformation
  ; -------------------
  waves = 0.2,200

  if (imag(p3) > 0 && imag(p3) <= 100)

  level = imag(p3) / 100         ; water level
  ampl = real(waves)                ; amplitude of the wave
  freq = imag(waves)                ; frequency

  angle = real(rotskew * pi / 180)
  exp_irot = exp(-flip(angle))
  h = 1 / real(magxmag)
  w = h / 0.75 * imag(magxmag)
  tanskew = tan(imag(rotskew * pi / 180))
  u = 2 * w * exp_irot
  v = 2 * h * (tanskew + flip(1)) * exp_irot
  z3rd = center + (-w-h*tanskew - flip(h)) * exp_irot
  z = pixel - z3rd
  b = imag(conj(u)*z) / imag(conj(u)*v)
  if (b <= level)
  dy = level - b
  z = z + 2*dy * (1+ampl*sin(freq*dy^0.2)) * v
  endif
  z = z + z3rd
  else
  z = pixel
  endif

  if (ismand)
  c = z
  else
  c = p1
  endif


  :
  z = z*z + c
  |z| <= bailout
  }

****************************************************************EOF***


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From: Tim Wegner <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) 20.0.9 available
Date: 12 Mar 2000 21:39:53 -0600

Fractint 20.0.9 is now available. The web site www.fractint.org
seems to be down, so I posted this on my own WWW site. This is
not much of a site :-) You have to paste the exact URL into your
browser to get the file. If these same files are available via
anonymous FTP I haven't figured out how.

The DOS fractint executable is:

http://home.swbell.net/twegner/fradev.zip

and the source diff file is:

http://home.swbell.net/twegner/2000p09.zip

I'll update fractint.org as soon as it is up.

The what's new for this patch is:

"Fixed a bug that occurred when maxhistory=0 was used.  Fixed a
bug that occurred when ismand was used in a formula and ctrl <o>
was pressed.  Updated Jonathan's email address."

This is not a real important patch unless you are either interested
in those particular bug fixes ot like to help us by testing the latest
version. However, here is something that might be of interest to real
hard core fractint fans. For quite some time I have been maintaining
a version of fractint with the integer math removed. The idea was to
use this as the basis for the future, since it is unlikely integer math
will survive. The following is the 20.0.9 version of the float-only
version:

http://home.swbell.net/twegner/fradevfo.zip

(The "fo" means "float only").

I'll post the source for this soon. It would probably make sense to
make an xfractint version based on these sources since Xfractint
does not support integer math anyway. I would be interested in
hearing of anything that does not work in the float only version
(that's not related to integer math   of course). Beware - this version
looks a LOT like the regular version.

The only real advantage of the float-only version for users is a
somewhat smaller memory footprint (try with debug=10000 on the
command line and compare.)

Tim







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From: Ruth Antwine <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) 20.0.9 available, Question on Win95
Date: 12 Mar 2000 23:41:02 -0500

Small question. Do you know if/when an updated version for win95/98 may
became available?
If so, what sort of things will be updated?


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From: "Andrew Coppin" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) What's in a name?
Date: 13 Mar 2000 10:28:28 GMT

Short daft question:

If you remove the integer math from FractInt, shouldn't it then be called
FractReal?

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From: Tonton Th <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) What's in a name?
Date: 13 Mar 2000 11:32:32 +0100

Andrew Coppin wrote:
>
> If you remove the integer math from FractInt, shouldn't it then be called
> FractReal?
>
    <troll>
    no, IMHO, the "int" will be for "international", so
    if you drop integers, no need to change the name
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From: Jon Noring <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Speed and precision in UF compared to Fractint
Date: 13 Mar 2000 07:04:31 -0800 (PST)

Hello,

This is my second post to come up to speed with UltraFractal.

I noticed while playing around with UF on some Fractint pars that UF is
somewhat slower (appr. 50%) than Fractint.  This surprised me, since I
assumed 32-bit would run a little faster than 16-bit on the newer Pentiums,
which are optimized for 32-bit operation.  I guess the Windows 95/98 GUI
overhead slows things down, or that UF has some other things that slow it
down vis-a-vis Fractint.  (Note that I specified floating-point in my
Fractint pars so this difference in speed is not due to comparing floating-
point with integer calcuations.  Of course, I could still be comparing apples
and oranges in other ways, so those here who are expert on this topic feel
free to chime in and clarify matters.)

I also want to ask about the numerical precision (number of significant
digits) of UF compared to Fractint and how that affects things like zoom.
Fractint, for example, has a maximum zoom limit due to numerical precision.
Naively assuming that 32-bit operation should double the number of
significant digits for "single precision", I would gather UF shines here.

Comments on these points?  Do note that I am not knocking UF as a fractal
generator by claiming that calculation speed is the only thing important to
me.  There are many good things about UF, including its color mapping/gradient
system.  Now if UF had a "Divide and Conquer" utility like Fractint has, I
think UF will have arrived in my book.

Thanks.

Jon Noring


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Subject: (fractint) FOTD, 13-03-00 (Fractal Citrus Fruit [4]) (c)
Date: 13 Mar 2000 10:12:30 -0500 (EST)


FOTD -- March 13, 2000  (Rating 4)

Fractal enthusiasts and visionaries:

Since the first version of today's quickie fractal resembled a
citrus fruit sliced through the middle, I named the picture
"Fractal Citrus Fruit".  I have given the image a new color
palette since naming it, but I kind of liked the original name,
so I let it keep its tangy title.

It's a kind of patchwork fractal, full of the flat areas of
color typical of fractals that combine two negative powers of Z.

The midget in the image is part of the larger fractal that
appears when a tiny bit of Z^(-101) is subtracted from Z^(-2).
This parent fractal of today's image is quite a complex thing,
which I may investigate further in the days to come.

The JPEG image is posted to:

          <alt.binaries.pictures.fractals>

and to:

          <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html>

although the parameter file runs so quickly that the download is
the less efficient way of viewing the picture, which rates only
a 4 on my 0-to-10 scale of fractal worthiness.

The fractal weather returned to winter today, with strong,
biting winds, scudding dark clouds, and a temperature of 38F
(3C), which kept the cats by the warmest object in sight.

I once again exhausted my fractal philosophy today  on letters
to the philofractal list.  Then I found that Fractalus is down,
leaving me unable to post my handiwork.  No problem however.
The philosophy will keep until Fractalus returns to life.

Until next time, I'll amuse myself with the float-only version
of Fractint, which I have just now downloaded, and which seems
to be slightly faster than the Patchlevel 8 version.  I'll see
all you wonderful fractal folks again in 24 hours, plus or minus
an hour or so.  While you're waiting, take care, and keep an
open fractal mind.


Jim Muth
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g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j,
k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel):
z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c,
|z| < l
}

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From: "Angela Wilczynski" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Speed and precision in UF compared to Fractint
Date: 13 Mar 2000 07:45:14 -0800

Jon...

I'm tempted to reply ....but in a non-technical way.  I started using UF in September
of last year...not so long ago.  Two things I noticed almost immediately (1) use of
colors had to be different in UF and (2) deep zooming was not really required to make
an outstanding image.  In fact....I don't really zoom all that much except to place
my image where I want it.  I attribute these differences to the fact that we are
usually working with multiple layers in UF.  Also, with the many coloring algorithms
available (similar to the ones that could be built into the formulas of Fractint 19.6
and used by Damien and Paul Carlson), areas that initially look bland and unpromising
can turn out very well.

Angela aka wizzle


Jon Noring wrote:
>
> <<snipped>>

> I also want to ask about the numerical precision (number of significant
> digits) of UF compared to Fractint and how that affects things like zoom.
> Fractint, for example, has a maximum zoom limit due to numerical precision.
> Naively assuming that 32-bit operation should double the number of
> significant digits for "single precision", I would gather UF shines here.
>
> Comments on these points?  Do note that I am not knocking UF as a fractal
> generator by claiming that calculation speed is the only thing important to
> me.  There are many good things about UF, including its color mapping/gradient
> system.  Now if UF had a "Divide and Conquer" utility like Fractint has, I
> think UF will have arrived in my book.

>
> Jon Noring

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From: Phil McRevis <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Speed and precision in UF compared to Fractint
Date: 13 Mar 2000 08:48:03 -0700


In article <[e-mail]>,
    Jon Noring <[e-mail]>  writes:

> Comments on these points?

My only comment is that if you're asking UF questions and soliciting
information on UF, please use the UF list and not the fractint list for
that purpose.
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From: Jon Noring <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Speed and precision in UF compared to Fractint
Date: 13 Mar 2000 08:13:06 -0800 (PST)

Phil McRevis <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Jon Noring <[e-mail]>  writes:

>> Comments on these points?

>My only comment is that if you're asking UF questions and soliciting
>information on UF, please use the UF list and not the fractint list for
>that purpose.

Well, I understand your point, but I ask very specific questions that delve
into Fractint as well -- in essence I am comparing them.  I made one other
post to UF that I did not cross-post here because it did not delve into
Fractint in any significant way, and thus would be off-topic here.

My cross-post here, I believe was very relevant.  Even more so since the
future of Fractint will be 32-bit, and UF is creating new expectations, and
has some good ideas, that the future Fractint may have to adapt, such as the
color mapping/gradient scheme.  I assume that discussing the future of
Fractint is on-topic to this list?

So, back to my original post -- comments?

Jon Noring


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From: Xylen <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) What's in a name?
Date: 13 Mar 2000 12:52:41 -0700



Tonton Th wrote:
>
> Andrew Coppin wrote:
> >
> > If you remove the integer math from FractInt, shouldn't it then be called
> > FractReal?
> >
>         <troll>
>         no, IMHO, the "int" will be for "international", so
>         if you drop integers, no need to change the name
>         </troll>

Normally I don't respond to <troll> posts, but this one does raise a
tiny question. I had always thought it meant 'internal' considering
zooming into the innards of a fractal is so easy.

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From: "Ton Koppens" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) some pars
Date: 13 Mar 2000 21:29:36 +0100

Hello list,



Some things found this evening playing.
Comments are welcome.

Greetings,


Ton

============================================================================
==

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (fractint) some pars
Date: 13 Mar 2000 18:02:58 EST

Ton, could you please post the formulas for your pars.

Does this mean i don't have the latest orgform?  Is it somewhere other than
the spanky fractint page?

thanks.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (fractint) latest orgform
Date: 13 Mar 2000 18:19:45 EST

My orgform files are dated 10-09-99 is there a more current version

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From: "Pedro A. O. Lopes" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Speed and precision in UF compared to Fractint
Date: 13 Mar 2000 23:51:45 +0000

Jon Noring wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> This is my second post to come up to speed with UltraFractal.
>
> I noticed while playing around with UF on some Fractint pars that UF is
> somewhat slower (appr. 50%) than Fractint.  This surprised me, since I
> assumed 32-bit would run a little faster than 16-bit on the newer Pentiums,
> which are optimized for 32-bit operation.  I guess the Windows 95/98 GUI
> overhead slows things down, or that UF has some other things that slow it
> down vis-a-vis Fractint.  (Note that I specified floating-point in my
> Fractint pars so this difference in speed is not due to comparing floating-
> point with integer calcuations.  Of course, I could still be comparing apples
> and oranges in other ways, so those here who are expert on this topic feel
> free to chime in and clarify matters.)
>
> I also want to ask about the numerical precision (number of significant
> digits) of UF compared to Fractint and how that affects things like zoom.
> Fractint, for example, has a maximum zoom limit due to numerical precision.
> Naively assuming that 32-bit operation should double the number of
> significant digits for "single precision", I would gather UF shines here.

Actually, 16 and 32-bit refer to integer sizes.  The numerical
precision depends instead on the floating point format used, which
can be either 64 or 80-bit.  IIRC fractint uses 64-bit and UF uses
80-bit, which allows it to zoom a little further (there was a post
about this a short while back?)

In this context 16-bit vs. 32-bit really just means DOS-based vs.
Windows-based programs.  Since the hard work is mostly crunching
real numbers, fractint is not greatly affected for being 16-bit code.
In the end the big differences in performance (one way or the other)
are most likely to come from the algorithms used - that is probably
why you found fractint is faster for some fractals.

Unless I got it all wrong  :)

-Pedro

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (fractint) fractal file losses
Date: 13 Mar 2000 18:54:33 EST

Thanks to all who have offered links and files.


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From: "Jim Shaffer, Jr." <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) What's in a name?
Date: 13 Mar 2000 19:57:01 -0500

> > > If you remove the integer math from FractInt, shouldn't it then be called
> > > FractReal?
> > >
> >         <troll>
> >         no, IMHO, the "int" will be for "international", so
> >         if you drop integers, no need to change the name
> >         </troll>
>
> Normally I don't respond to <troll> posts, but this one does raise a
> tiny question. I had always thought it meant 'internal' considering
> zooming into the innards of a fractal is so easy.

But the inside of the most commonly-known fractal, the Mandelbrot set, is
black -- which brings me to my point: a long time ago, I thought the name was
actually FracTint, referring to its ability to produce nicely-colored fractals.
(Remember, DOS was mono-case!)

The "int" was most definitely for "integer".

I propose that the name should change from FractInt to FracTint if it's not
going to do integer math any longer.  And there is a precedent for calling a
product by a name other than the one chosen by its inventor: pronouncing GIF as
"jif", as Compuserve would have us do, is just stupid.  I certainly didn't
change when I found out that was what they wanted, nor did most people I know.

OK, I'll go back to lurking now.  But think it over!

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From: "Damien M. Jones" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) What's in a name?
Date: 13 Mar 2000 22:07:53 -0500

Jim,

 - And there is a precedent for calling a product by a name other than
 - the one chosen by its inventor: pronouncing GIF as "jif", as
 - Compuserve would have us do, is just stupid.  I certainly didn't
 - change when I found out that was what they wanted, nor did most
 - people I know.

(smile) We actually have people in our office who are adamant about one or
the other pronunciation. Which, since we do web sites, pops up rather a
lot. :)

I don't think a substantial name change is going to happen any time
soon--after all, Tim just got through registering fractint.org.

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From: Tim Wegner <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) 20.0.9 available
Date: 13 Mar 2000 21:45:26 -0600

Ok, ftp.fractint.org is up.

I have reorganized things a little. fradev.zip is now a link to the current developer
version executable. Right now it is a link to fradev20.0.9.zip.

I have applied the latest source patches to xfractint also. We are going to abandon the
xfractint version numbering and just have one version number with DOS and X versions.
The file naming reflects this, but we haven't fixed the Xfractint screen yet - it still thinks
it is 3.11.

Tim

Here is the current contents of ftp.fractint.org.

2000p01.zip        Source diff file 2000 patch 01
2000p02.zip        Source diff file 2000 patch 02
2000p03.zip        Source diff file 2000 patch 03
2000p04.zip        Source diff file 2000 patch 04
2000p05.zip        Source diff file 2000 patch 05
2000p06.zip        Source diff file 2000 patch 06
2000p07.zip        Source diff file 2000 patch 07
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From: "Scott D. Boyd" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) What's in a name?
Date: 13 Mar 2000 21:55:44 -0600

On Mon, 13 Mar 2000, you wrote:
> Short daft question:
>
> If you remove the integer math from FractInt, shouldn't it then be called
> FractReal?
>

Maybe it should be called "Fractfloat" (for floating-point fractal creation).

The following is in response to several other posters as to what the "int" in
Fractint stood for:
Don't quote me on this, but I think I remember reading in a Fractint book
about 10 years ago that the "int" in Fractint *does* relate to the fact that
the program creates fractals so quickly using integer math. Which was really
fantastic then, considering that 80386's and slower 80286's were prevalent at
the time.

Any one in the Stone Soup Group want to correct me or substantiate this?

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From: Mike Traynor <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) What's in a name?
Date: 14 Mar 2000 00:29:33 -0500


> > Short daft question:
> >
> > If you remove the integer math from FractInt, shouldn't it then be called
> > FractReal?

Considering that many of us are sporting names that no longer have any direct meaning
or convey accurate information about us (how many "Wrights" are?), I don't see why
anyone would balk for a moment at fractint retaining its historic name.

Mike

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From: BILL RAY <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Speed and precision in UF compared to Fractint
Date: 14 Mar 2000 01:11:48 -0500

Not of reasonableness here - how would you expect anyone discussing BOTH
Fractint and UF and COMPARING THE TWO, as the writer was, to confine his
thoughts to ONLY the UF list?  Would it really KILL anyone to entertain his
question, which is pertinent to Fractint?  C'mon, don't be so tightassed.

Jon Noring wrote:

> Phil McRevis <[e-mail]> wrote:
> >Jon Noring <[e-mail]>  writes:
>
> >> Comments on these points?
>
> >My only comment is that if you're asking UF questions and soliciting
> >information on UF, please use the UF list and not the fractint list for
> >that purpose.
>
> Well, I understand your point, but I ask very specific questions that delve
> into Fractint as well -- in essence I am comparing them.  I made one other
> post to UF that I did not cross-post here because it did not delve into
> Fractint in any significant way, and thus would be off-topic here.
>
> My cross-post here, I believe was very relevant.  Even more so since the
> future of Fractint will be 32-bit, and UF is creating new expectations, and
> has some good ideas, that the future Fractint may have to adapt, such as the
> color mapping/gradient scheme.  I assume that discussing the future of
> Fractint is on-topic to this list?
>
> So, back to my original post -- comments?
>
> Jon Noring
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From: Jim Muth <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) FOTD, 14-03-00 (Fractal Landscape [7]) (c)
Date: 14 Mar 2000 02:14:21 -0500 (EST)


FOTD -- March 14, 2000  (Rating 7)

Fractal enthusiasts and visionaries:

Today's single layer fractal rates a seven, which is above
average on my 0 to 10 scale of fractal worthiness.  I mention
that the image consists of a single layer because I am
occasionally asked why I never create fractals with more than
one layer.  After all, a multi-layered fractal is like
polyphonic music, where different but harmonious melodies blend
together into a single pleasing artistic whole.

Well, my best answer is that I don't do multi-layered fractals
for the same reason that, while standing at the rim of the Grand
Canyon, one would not wear spectacles that distorted the view.
I enjoy fractals for what they are -- visible representations of
the always surprising things that numbers can do.  Multiple
layers distort the view.  My eyes do not blend different images
as well as my ears blend different melodic lines.  I must not be
alone, as most music is polyphonic, while most traditional fine
art consists of a single image.

Of course, times are changing, and this single image art could
be due to the relative difficulty until now of overlaying
different images by eye and hand alone.  It could all change now
that computers enable us to overlay as many images as we wish
with relative ease.  After all, there was a time many centuries
ago when music was monophonic, but that changed.  It will be
interesting to see the course visual art takes as we move
further into the age of computers.

Another reason I avoid multiple layers is because of my nature.
I am a bit old fashioned.  I am also an individualist who tends
to avoid things when they become trendy, as multiple layered
fractals have.  Such things have a tendency to ultimately
exhaust themselves.  Disco music and CB radio are two examples
that immediately come to mind.  Only time will tell if the
current interest in multi-layered fractals is a passing fad or
here to stay.  (I suspect it will slacken but never die
completely.)

But time told nothing today, for it took over an hour to find
today's single-layer FOTD, which I have named "Fractal
Landscape".  The whimsical formula behind the image is
10Z^(-1.4142)-0.1Z^(1.4142)+C.  When I look at the intricate
detail in this single layer, I can hardly imagine obscuring it
with unnecessary layers.

The parameter file takes 8 minutes to render, long enough to
make all but the most patient fractalists run to Usenet at:

          <alt.binaries.pictures.fractals>

or to the WWW at:

          <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html>

and download the completed image file from there.

The fractal weather today was partly cloudy and chilly.  The
temperature of 48F (9C) was too cool fot the cats, who passed
the day by the source of heat.

I'm in the act of recharging my philosophical batteries, so we
have no further philosophy this evening.  But tomorrow's FOTD is
only 24 hours away, and anything could happen.  Until then, take
care, and the best is always yet to come.


Jim Muth
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                     ;  Version 2000 Patchlevel 8
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frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth
a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2),
g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j,
k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel):
z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c,
|z| < l
}

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From: "Tony \(Anthony\) Hanmer" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Tracing l-systems - clarification
Date: 14 Mar 2000 11:29:00 GET

I'll try again.
Sorry for the confusion, I think i didn't explain myself properly about
L-systems being converted into vector files.

If you render a vector file of anything, and enlarge it, there will be no
"jaggies" in diagonal lines. In this sense, to the limits of screen and
printer resolution, and of human perception, I suppose the reproduction is
perfect enough, even if not "actually" perfect.  Close enough.
So if you render an L-system as a vector file (either directly from the
original programme, which was what my original question was about, or by
tracing the saved bitmap), and then enlarge that vector file, it will keep
the same detail regardless of size.

SO, is there anything out there which can do this - take an L-system and
render it directly as an .ai or .eps or other vector file?  If not, an
acceptable (though less likely) alternative would be a tracing programme
which you could constrain to certain angles and their multiples and to
certain line lengths and their multiples.

I'm asking all this because I'm deep into the production of a set of fonts
made from L-systems... shh, don't tell... and I want to be able to reproduce
them as vectors, not bitmaps.  They need to be fairly low-order things,
because higher orders and their finer details would just smudge out in small
letter sizes.  And I want to be able to blow them up to bigger sizes, as
well.

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From: "Paul N. Lee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Tracing l-systems - clarification
Date: 14 Mar 2000 01:52:12 -0600

Tony (Anthony) Hanmer wrote:
>
> So if you render an L-system as a vector file
> (either directly from the original programme,
> which was what my original question was about,
> or by tracing the saved bitmap), and then
> enlarge that vector file, it will keep the same
> detail regardless of size.
>
> SO, is there anything out there which can do
> this - take an L-system and render it directly
> as an .ai or .eps or other vector file?


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From: Tonton Th <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) What's in a name?
Date: 14 Mar 2000 09:26:30 +0100

Xylen wrote:
>
> tiny question. I had always thought it meant 'internal' considering
> zooming into the innards of a fractal is so easy.
>
    very good explanation.

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From: "David Jones" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Speed and precision in UF compared to Fractint
Date: 13 Mar 2000 23:02:26 -1000

Windows9x is still basically 16-bit with some 32-bit
elements. You need a real 32-bit OS like Linux or NT for
32-bit-optimized processors.

On 13 Mar 00 at 7:04, Jon Noring wrote:

> I noticed while playing around with UF on some Fractint
> pars that UF is somewhat slower (appr. 50%) than
> Fractint.  This surprised me, since I assumed 32-bit
> would run a little faster than 16-bit on the newer
> Pentiums, which are optimized for 32-bit operation.  I
> guess the Windows 95/98 GUI overhead slows things down,
> or that UF has some other things that slow it down
> vis-a-vis Fractint.  (Note that I specified
> floating-point in my Fractint pars so this difference in
> speed is not due to comparing floating- point with
> integer calcuations.  Of course, I could still be
> comparing apples and oranges in other ways, so those
> here who are expert on this topic feel free to chime in
> and clarify matters.)

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From: "Rupert Millard" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) What's in a name?
Date: 14 Mar 2000 11:30:24 GMT

> > > Short daft question:
> > >
> > > If you remove the integer math from FractInt, shouldn't it then > > >
>be called FractReal?
>
>Considering that many of us are sporting names that no longer have >any
>direct meaning or convey accurate information about us (how many >"Wrights"
>are?), I don't see why anyone would balk for a moment at >fractint
>retaining its historic name.
>
>Mike

I agree with Mike, it is a very daft question.

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From: Guy Marson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) little animation
Date: 14 Mar 2000 13:14:49 +0100

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Hi,

ok, ok, here is a .zip of the requested files.. copy the unzipped files
into your Fractint.dir und run the batches.. the minilake.bat generates
only 55 frames, while the lakefilm.bat does about 308 frames. About
DTA.EXE: I got no homepage.. so if one need the DTA.EXE let me know (it is
much too large to attach it here).
About the Batch-generating Program: It's a modification of the freeware
Fractfly.exe from Josh Lannin, not ready to be distributed in its
modificated release.. Mabe in 2-3 months.. I hope this helps ya ..

have fun..

Guy
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From: Noel Giffin <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: [fractal-art] A question on museum-quality fractal
Date: 14 Mar 2000 13:51:07 -0800

Jon Noring wrote:
>
>
> I visited it and it is full of good information.  However, I am surprised you
> left out the LightJet, the direct competitor to the Durst Lambda.  The
> LightJet, if it is still in business, as of two years ago had slightly higher
> resolution than the Durst Lambda and was specially calibrated to run with
> Ilfochrome!  Ilfochrome normally has contrast problems, but in the LightJet


    The LightJet system is still available from:

    Cymbolic Sciences who build them.

    http://www.cymbolic.com/

    From their website it looks like there are about 400 machines
    out there somewhere. It does look like a very high quality
    system.

    regards,
    Noel Giffin

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From: Phil McRevis <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Tracing l-systems - clarification
Date: 14 Mar 2000 14:53:22 -0700


Its relatively straightforward to write L-system code in postscript
directly.  Of course, you have to be a programmer to do this.

In article <[e-mail]>,
    "Tony \(Anthony\) Hanmer" <[e-mail]>  writes:

> If you render a vector file of anything, and enlarge it, there will be no
> "jaggies" in diagonal lines.

I think what keeps throwing other people off is your use of
terminology.  Traditional use of the word "render" means to turn it
into pixels on the screen.  So once you render a vector file, its
turned into pixels and there will always be jaggies on your pixel
rendering unless you used a nice anti-aliased line implementation.

> So if you render an L-system as a vector file (either directly from the
> original programme, which was what my original question was about, or by
> tracing the saved bitmap), and then enlarge that vector file, it will keep
> the same detail regardless of size.

I wouldn't use the word "render" for this.  Rendering produces pixels.
Generally people talk about this process as "output", i.e. "output the
L-system as a vector file".

> SO, is there anything out there which can do this - take an L-system and
> render it directly as an .ai or .eps or other vector file?

There are a variety of L-system programs out there.  Writing an
L-system expansion in PostScript is rather trivial, as I say, if you
already know PostScript.  I've done it myself and its only half a page
of PostScript code.  Of course it takes forever for the printer to
rasterize it at high expansion levels because of the nature of
L-systems to produce huge amounts of geometry.
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (fractint) whats in a name?
Date: 14 Mar 2000 23:06 0000


Hi Jim,

> a long time ago, I thought the name was
>actually FracTint, referring to its ability to produce nicely-colored
>fractals.

Funny you should say that but I've got a search going on tracerlock
(www.tracerlock.com) which reports all new occurances of the word
fractint on altavista, it's great for keeping tabs on new galleries and
such. Anyway it recently threw up this address:

http://perso.club-internet.fr/gravert/galvech/tinting.htm

Where someone has independantly coined the word to describe a
printing
technique which uses naturally generated fractal patterns.

Cheers,
          Robin.




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From: Aero <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) deepzoom animation
Date: 15 Mar 2000 00:45:40 +0000

Hello all,

(my first post)

I'm generating a complete zoom from the full mandelbrot down to a deep
zoom.

Using an image from the 'Deepzooming with Fractint' web page as a
starting point, (the one by Dewey Odhner called 390m586) mag
8.166x10^58, I started zooming out step by step. I've generated a par
file with 3872 pars (split into 4 since Fractint limits to 2000 pars -
incidentally Fractint will give an error when loading a par file of
exactly 2000 pars, even though it does give all 2000 - a minor bug, I
ain't complaining about such a wonderful product! Also, the 'int'
definitely stood for integer when I first started back in the days of
386s.)

I generated every 100th frame to get an estimate of total generation
time which came to about 1600 hours.

I started generating each image a 640x480 (on a PII 400) Quite
straightforward with simple repetitive autokey files.

Over the past month I've generated the outermost 2700 frames. I estimate
another 1000 hours to completion.
To add interest my zoom rotates 1 step, colour-rotates 1 step and
increases the maxiter by one each frame. The resulting animation so far
makes a very nice avi.

If there's interest here I'll post more details, including the basic
'anatomy' of this deepzoom.

If anyone wants to help I'll post them pars.

I'll be adding details of this (and other less deep zooms that I made
last year) on my website and will let you all know when I upload them.
My other zooms (3 barnsleys, a lyapunov, a julia and 2 mandels) were all
under 1000 frames and took only a few hours to generate as they go as
deep as or much deeper than the point at which arbitrary precision is
needed.

Incidentally, to add to a point of discussion that was ongoing recently:
I found that in my current deepzoom, 8.139x10^12 wasn't arb-precision
(taking a few seconds) while the next frame 8.444x10^12 went arbitrary
and took several minutes.

Last month I had the fortune to be performing my video art at a club
that had a 360 degree video screen consisting of 16 LCD video
projectors. These fractal zooms (among other stuff) looked fantastic!
(more details of such stuff in on my web-site, look for Optic Alchemy)

Regards and respect to you all,

Aero



inFINitE ART, Huddersfield,UK
www.rherrero.demon.co.uk
Phone:  [phone]
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From: "Damien M. Jones" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Speed and precision in UF compared to Fractint
Date: 14 Mar 2000 20:22:17 -0500

David,

 - Windows9x is still basically 16-bit with some 32-bit
 - elements. You need a real 32-bit OS like Linux or NT for
 - 32-bit-optimized processors.

Please do not spew biased misinformation on this list. If you had asked any
programmer who has actually WORKED with Windows 95 they will be quite happy
to tell you it is primarily a 32-bit OS. There are portions which still use
16-bit code, but they aren't nearly as huge as your comments would
indicate. Programs do run in protected, isolated memory spaces, using
32-bit memory management. 16-bit segments are for all practical purposes
gone. Core processes are run as 32-bit, it is mainly portions of the GUI
which are still 16-bit, plus some compatibility code which lets you run
more DOS stuff than you can in NT.

Your platform advocacy probably belongs in an advocacy newsgroup, not on
the FractInt mailing list, IMO.

Damien M. Jones   \\
[e-mail]  \\  Fractalus Galleries & Info:
                    \\  http://www.fractalus.com/

Please do not post my e-mail address on a web site or
in a newsgroup.  Thank you.


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From: Tim Wegner <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) What's in a name?
Date: 14 Mar 2000 20:08:00 -0600

Damien speculated:

> I don't think a substantial name change is going to happen any time
> soon--after all, Tim just got through registering fractint.org.

My opinion is that the name will be Fractint forever, even long after we have
removed integer math :-) The reason is not that I invested $75 is
the domain name, it's just that that's the name of the program.

Then again, who knows, anything can happen!

It does occur to me that Bert Tyler named the Windows version
"Winfract",  but even then we understood that this was the windows
port of Fractint. So who knows? :-) But I'm not inclined to change
the name of the program just because integer math is gone.

One of the great things about about a group project is that we can
decide stuff like this together!

Tim


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From: "Angela Wilczynski" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) What's in a name?
Date: 14 Mar 2000 18:38:09 -0800

<<<deep chuckling over name discussions>>>>  Should Coca-Cola change their name
because the....er...ingredients are not quite the same as the original recipe?  Bet
the original gave quite a buzz....hope Fractint keeps buzzing along no matter what
it's called.

Wizzle

Tim Wegner wrote:
>
> Damien speculated:
>
> > I don't think a substantial name change is going to happen any time
> > soon--after all, Tim just got through registering fractint.org.
>
> My opinion is that the name will be Fractint forever, even long after we have
> removed integer math :-) The reason is not that I invested $75 is
> the domain name, it's just that that's the name of the program.
>
> Then again, who knows, anything can happen!
>
> It does occur to me that Bert Tyler named the Windows version
> "Winfract",  but even then we understood that this was the windows
> port of Fractint. So who knows? :-) But I'm not inclined to change
> the name of the program just because integer math is gone.
>
> One of the great things about about a group project is that we can
> decide stuff like this together!
>
> Tim
>
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From: Jim Muth <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) FOTD, 15-03-00 (FOTD for March 15 [5]) (c)
Date: 15 Mar 2000 02:55:14 -0500 (EST)


FOTD -- March 15, 2000  (Rating 5)

Fractal enthusiasts and visionaries:

I see that the FracTint vs UltraFractal debate has heated up
again.  Of course, it's no secret that I'm a Fractint user, and
have been since version 2.1.  I still have that early version
stashed away in a remote directory of my old 8mhz 80286 machine.
The executable file of that ancient version is named
fract386.exe.  The file size is a whopping 32,541 bytes, and the
date is 10-23-88 -- 9:06p.  Things have come a long way since
then.

Actually, I feel that the big debate is a bit overwrought.  I
see Fractint and UF as complementing each other rather than
competing, with Fractint emphasizing the mathematical aspect of
fractals, and UF with its multiple layers emphasizing the
artistic aspect.  My view is pretty near the middle in this
debate, but if asked to choose a side, I would side with the
Stone-Soupers, since I am more interested in the math than the
art.

Today's fractal comes from the formula 4Z^(-2)-5Z^(-1)+C.  The
area in which the scene lies consists of features that resemble
elephants with heads on both ends.  The parent fractal is rather
interesting, with a train of Mandeloid fragments shrinking to
infinity.  This fractal definitely deserves the further investi-
gation that I will give it tomorrow.

I was unable to think of a name for today's picture, and finally
settled on the technical description "FOTD for March 15" as the
name.  The image, which originally was a bit drab, was given
post-processing in a graphics program to liven it.

The parameter file takes about 10 minutes to fill the screen
with pixels.  The image file, which already has its pixels
calculated, is available for download at the Usenet site:

          <alt.binaries.pictures.fractals>

and at the Web site:

          <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html>

The fractal weather was notably dull today.  The partly cloudy
skies and temperature of 57F (14C) were perfect for the fractal
cats, who passed the afternoon on the porch.

I was too busy today to philosophize, but I'll try again
tomorrow.  I certainly have a lot more to say, if only I can
find the time to say it.  Until next time, take care, and put
your best fractal forward.

PS  I think I've found a serious bug in the float-only version
of Fractint patch level 9, which I'm testing.  The bug involves
writing to the parameter file.  I'll check it further tomorrow
and report on what I find.


Jim Muth
[e-mail]


START 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================

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                     ;  Version 2000 Patchlevel 9
  reset=2000 type=formula formulafile=critical.frm
  formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 function=ident passes=1
  center-mag=-0.1702420942277648/-0.2949882391891143/6\
  .600867e+012/1/-177.503/0.002 params=-5/-1/4/-2/0/0
  float=y maxiter=3600 bailout=25 inside=0 logmap=185
  symmetry=none periodicity=10
  colors=0006FB17F02G06I07K0AL0BN<2>2IS2KU4LV4NW6PY6QY\
  6U_7Va7WbAYdA_fBagBdiDfjDglFinFjoFloKfjN_fSUaVNW_ISb\
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  Uz2Sz2Sz2Qz2Pz2Pz2Nz2Nz1Lz1Kz1Kz1Iz1Gz1<2>Fz0Uz1Pz2I\
  z6DzA
  }

frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth
a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2),
g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j,
k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel):
z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c,
|z| < l
}

END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE==================================


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From: Guy Marson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Partobat
Date: 15 Mar 2000 09:32:30 +0100

Hi fractinters,

Will ask again 2 questions: Is there a version of PARTOBAT.EXE running well
in a Dos-Window of WINDOWS 98? and were can I download it?

Cheers,

Guy


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From: "Tony \(Anthony\) Hanmer" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Tracing l-systems - clarification
Date: 15 Mar 2000 12:40:57 GET

Thanks Phil,
I stand corrected on my use of "render" for "output".  I suppose that does
explain a lot of the confusion.  Thanks also for your advice on Postsctipt
programming - never been there or done that, but it sounds helpful.
... Of course I had to ask for the lazy way out first, which was why the
questions about taking an actual L-system programme (the few lines of code
in each named entry of any Fractint .l file, not the .gifs or other bitmaps
one can produce from it), and outputting THAT to a vector file, aside from
programming it oneself in Postscript...  The silence means either my
question wasn't understood until now, or there's just nothing out there
which can do this.
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From: Guy Marson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) 20.0.9 available
Date: 15 Mar 2000 10:14:43 +0100

At 21:39 12/03/00 -0600, you wrote:
>Fractint 20.0.9 is now available. The web site www.fractint.org

>.... The following is the 20.0.9 version of the float-only
>version:
>
>http://home.swbell.net/twegner/fradevfo.zip
>
>(The "fo" means "float only").

Is the actual 20.0.9 version still sustaining integer-math? I must ask
this, because my favoured "buggy" julibrots are still working with that
version!

>
>I'll post the source for this soon.

so the Version without integer-math will come soon.. right?

>It would probably make sense to
>make an xfractint version based on these sources since Xfractint
>does not support integer math anyway. I would be interested in
>hearing of anything that does not work in the float only version
>(that's not related to integer math   of course). Beware - this version
>looks a LOT like the regular version.
>
>The only real advantage of the float-only version for users is a
>somewhat smaller memory footprint (try with debug=10000 on the
>command line and compare.)

an perhaps, the disadventage is, that the julibrots won't work?

>
>Tim
>


cheers,

Guy


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From: Guy Marson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) deepzoom animation
Date: 15 Mar 2000 10:14:34 +0100

At 00:45 15/03/00 +0000, you wrote:
>Hello all,
>
>(my first post)
>
>I'm generating a complete zoom from the full mandelbrot down to a deep
>zoom.

this is very interesting!!

>
>If there's interest here I'll post more details, including the basic
>'anatomy' of this deepzoom.
>
>If anyone wants to help I'll post them pars.
>

please do so, to my adress.. I can share PC-time (AMD K7-650) some days (or
nights) for such a project..

>I'll be adding details of this (and other less deep zooms that I made
>last year) on my website and will let you all know when I upload them.

oh yes!

>My other zooms (3 barnsleys, a lyapunov, a julia and 2 mandels) were all
>under 1000 frames and took only a few hours to generate as they go as
>deep as or much deeper than the point at which arbitrary precision is
>needed.

What PRG are you using to generate the .par-files? There must be huge files?


>Incidentally, to add to a point of discussion that was ongoing recently:
>I found that in my current deepzoom, 8.139x10^12 wasn't arb-precision
>(taking a few seconds) while the next frame 8.444x10^12 went arbitrary
>and took several minutes.

is there a visible difference between deep-zoom frames  an NOT-deep-zoom
frames?

>
>Last month I had the fortune to be performing my video art at a club
>that had a 360 degree video screen consisting of 16 LCD video
>projectors. These fractal zooms (among other stuff) looked fantastic!
>(more details of such stuff in on my web-site, look for Optic Alchemy)
>

ya!! go on that way!!

best regards!

Guy


>Regards and respect to you all,
>
>Aero
>
>
>
>inFINitE ART, Huddersfield,UK
>www.rherrero.demon.co.uk
>Phone:  [phone]
>Love & Respect, Richard Herrero
>_.aERo._.aERo._.aERo._.aERo._
>
>
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From: "Morgan L. Owens" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Tracing l-systems - clarification
Date: 15 Mar 2000 22:34:43 +1300

At 12:40 15/03/2000 GET, you wrote:
>Thanks Phil,
> Thanks also for your advice on Postsctipt
>programming - never been there or done that, but it sounds helpful.
>
If you do decide to have a crack at this, I'd be interested in what you
come up with.

If you recall the Lparser program I sent you, I recalled (and just
confirmed) that running it with an -l command switch you cause it to spit
out the final (fully expanded) string from which the drawing commands are
derived. You might find this useful in a Postscript project because it
would allow you to try converting real lsystem strings into Postscript
commands without having to write a Fractint lsystem entry parser first. I
suspect the trickiest part of the job would be fitting it to the page (or
at least scaling it in some useful fashion).

Of course, like Phil said, these things have a _lot_ of geometry, so you
might rather want some standalone program that would do all the lsystem
parsing and iteration stuff, and just write the final results (say, a list
of line segments) to the file, rather than hope that whatever's
interpreting your Postscript is up to the task.

Also in passing, I thought you might also like to be made aware of
http://www.wotsit.org/ - a file format archive, including things like
Illustrator, EPS, DXF and other vector image formats.

Also also in passing, I note that Phils says the word is "output" instead
of "render" and then later goes ahead and says "rasterize" anyway :-)

Morgan L. Owens
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From: Kenneth Childress <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Partobat
Date: 15 Mar 2000 07:54:56 -0800 (PST)

> Hi fractinters,
>
> Will ask again 2 questions: Is there a version of PARTOBAT.EXE running well
> in a Dos-Window of WINDOWS 98? and were can I download it?

I have used the current version of partobat on a Win95 system in a DOS
window.  I presume it would work on Win98.  I think I found it or a link
to it on Jo Weber's web site.

http://www.joweber.de/

If you don't find it there, email me off list and I'll send you the ZIP
file.


Ken...



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From: Bill Jemison <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Speed and precision in UF compared to Fractint
Date: 15 Mar 2000 11:16:40 -0500

Jon,

You mention the divide and conquer methodology using Fractint. There is n=
o
longer a need for that, as Fractint v.20 (+) has the ability to generate
very large fractals without dividing. I realize there may be other reason=
s
to divide - such as using many machines (as I recall you used to do). I
just wanted to point out this new capability with Fractint20, in case you=

aren't aware of it.

I have generated images of 16000x12000 during the testing of the feature.=


Bill

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From: "Paul N. Lee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) latest orgform
Date: 15 Mar 2000 11:20:40 -0600

[e-mail] wrote:
>
> My orgform files are dated 10-09-99
> is there a more current version
>

The latest version of 3.3 (October 10, 1999) is the only one that I am
aware of at this time:

     http://spanky.triumf.ca/pub/fractals/programs/ibmpc/

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From: "Paul N. Lee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Partobat
Date: 15 Mar 2000 11:24:49 -0600

Guy Marson wrote:
>
> Will ask again 2 questions:
>     Is there a version of PARTOBAT.EXE running well
>     in a Dos-Window of WINDOWS 98?

    Yes, it has worked fine on both releases of Windows-98.

>
>     and were can I download it?

    http://spanky.triumf.ca/pub/fractals/programs/ibmpc/


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From: Jim Muth <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Float-only version par-file broken
Date: 15 Mar 2000 12:26:43 -0500 (EST)


There is a serious bug in the just-released float-only version
of Fractint, which causes the center coordinate data to be written
incorrectly to the parameter file.  This bug affects images with a
magnitude greater than 1e006, where the center coordinate data is
rounded and truncated to 6 decimal places as it is written.  The
corresponding version (20.0.9) with integer math appears to be
working correctly.

Jim M.


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (fractint) Partobat
Date: 15 Mar 2000 12:27:05 -0500



>>>Will ask again 2 questions: Is there a version of PARTOBAT.EXE running well
in a Dos-Window of WINDOWS 98? and were can I download it?<<<

Guy,

There was a problem with earlier versions of partobat - it wouldn't run on
computers faster than 200Mhz because of a bug in the Pascal compiler. I don't
think this had anything to do with Windows. This was fixed in a later version. I
see Ken has already responded to you but if you can't find the latest version,
email me and I'll try to dig it up for you. I think the version I have is 3.5.

Nick



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From: Mike Traynor <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Partobat
Date: 15 Mar 2000 15:30:32 -0500

The version of Partobat at Spanky did not run on my PIII.  Jo Weber's site
has two more recent versions at:

http://www.hajoweber.de/download/programs.htm

and the latter of these ran fine on my machine under W98.

Mike

"Paul N. Lee" wrote:
>
> Guy Marson wrote:
> >
> > Will ask again 2 questions:
> >     Is there a version of PARTOBAT.EXE running well
> >     in a Dos-Window of WINDOWS 98?
>
>     Yes, it has worked fine on both releases of Windows-98.
>
> >
> >     and were can I download it?
>
>     http://spanky.triumf.ca/pub/fractals/programs/ibmpc/
>
> P.N.L.
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From: "Ton Koppens" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) some pars
Date: 15 Mar 2000 22:47:40 +0100

I believe these formula's were post 1 or 2 months ago to this list. There
were about 50-60 of them. If you like I can trace them and send as a zipf=
ile
to you privately.
Here follow the 2 used for my pars.

Greetings,

Ton
[e-mail]

ps. Sorry I react just now but I've been away on training for som days.


=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

frm:GregsJuliaLB {; =A92000 Greg McClure
; p1 =3D point, p2 =3D multiplier, p3 =3D cutoff/type
; imag(p3) =3D type =3D 0/MOD, 1/REAL, 2/IMAG, 3/OR, 4/AND, 5/MANH, 6/MAN=
R
z =3D Pixel, z =3D p2 * (log(fn1(z)) + log(fn2(z))) + p1:
z =3D p2 * (log(fn1(z)) + log(fn2(z))) + p1
ip =3D imag(p3)
rz =3D real(z)
iz =3D imag(z)
IF(ip<0.1)
ct =3D z
ELSEIF(ip<1.1)
ct =3D real(z)
ELSEIF(ip<2.1)
ct =3D imag(z)
ELSEIF((ip<3.1) && (|rz|>|iz|))
ct =3D real(z)
ELSEIF((ip<3.1) && (|rz|<=3D|iz|))
ct =3D imag(z)
ELSEIF((ip<4.1) && (|rz|<|iz|))
ct =3D real(z)
ELSEIF((ip<4.1) && (|rz|>=3D|iz|))
ct =3D imag(z)
ELSEIF(ip<5.1)
ct =3D (abs(rz) + abs(iz))
ELSEIF(ip<6.1)
ct =3D (rz + iz)
ELSE
ct =3D z
ENDIF,
|ct| <=3D |real(p3)|
  ;SOURCE: 150100.frm
}


frm:GregsMandelP3 {; =A92000 Greg McClure
; p1 =3D offset, p2 =3D exponent, p3 =3D cutoff/type
; imag(p3) =3D type =3D 0/MOD, 1/REAL, 2/IMAG, 3/OR, 4/AND, 5/MANH, 6/MAN=
R
; p1 =3D 0/0, p2 =3D 1/0, p3 =3D 2/0, fn1/fn2 =3D sqr/zero =3D standard M=
andelbrot
; p1 =3D 0/0, p2 =3D 1/0, p3 =3D 2/0, fn1/fn2 =3D zero/sqr =3D standard M=
andelbrot
; p1 =3D 0/0, p2 =3D 2/0, p3 =3D 2/0, fn1/fn2 =3D zero/ident =3D standard=
 Mandelbrot
z =3D p1 + Pixel:
z =3D fn1(z) + fn2(z)^p2 + Pixel
ip =3D imag(p3)
rz =3D real(z)
iz =3D imag(z)
IF(ip<0.1)
ct =3D z
ELSEIF(ip<1.1)
ct =3D real(z)
ELSEIF(ip<2.1)
ct =3D imag(z)
ELSEIF((ip<3.1) && (|rz|>|iz|))
ct =3D real(z)
ELSEIF((ip<3.1) && (|rz|<=3D|iz|))
ct =3D imag(z)
ELSEIF((ip<4.1) && (|rz|<|iz|))
ct =3D real(z)
ELSEIF((ip<4.1) && (|rz|>=3D|iz|))
ct =3D imag(z)
ELSEIF(ip<5.1)
ct =3D (abs(rz) + abs(iz))
ELSEIF(ip<6.1)
ct =3D (rz + iz)
ELSE
ct =3D z
ENDIF,
|ct| <=3D |real(p3)|
  ;SOURCE: 150100.frm
}




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From: Tim Wegner <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Float-only version par-file broken
Date: 15 Mar 2000 17:25:30 -0600

Jim wrote:

> There is a serious bug in the just-released float-only version
> of Fractint ...

Anyone who finds bugs specific to the float-only version can email
the details to me. It's best to give me specific details (as simple as
possible) for duplicating the bug - usually a PAR - and tell me
exactly what to look for. The float-only  version probably has bugs,
but probably wouldn't be too hard to straighten out. I appreciate
efforts by users to look into this.

An easy way to test would be to run a bunch a PARs using
something like PAR2BAT. The results obtained with the two
versions (regular and float only) should be the same.

Jim, in the case of the problem you found, I could probably figure
out the problem from what you said, but I'd prefer a PAR and a
detailed set of instructions.

Thanks!

Tim


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From: Tim Wegner <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) 20.0.9 available
Date: 15 Mar 2000 17:46:22 -0600

Guy asked:

> Is the actual 20.0.9 version still sustaining integer-math? I must ask
> this, because my favoured "buggy" julibrots are still working with that
> version!

Yes, integer math is still in the regular 20.0.9 version. I lobbied to
take out integer math earlier, but the team didn't go along with me
<grin!> My guess is that the DOS medium memory model version
will always support integer math, but integer math will die when we
abandon the medium memory model. I don't expect the traditional
fractint to develop much further. Change to a better platform is
already long overdue. (Xfractint has never supported integer math.
Winfract did, but that is because Windows 3.1 applications could
be compiled with the medium memory model. Windows 95-
specirfic applications can't.

Tim

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (fractint) some pars
Date: 15 Mar 2000 19:03:37 EST

thanks for posting the formulas...i will look through the list digests to
find them.  Thamks for offering though.

Rui

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From: Steve Wray <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (fractint) 20.0.9 available
Date: 16 Mar 2000 13:45:47 +1300

On Thursday, 16 March 2000 12:46, Tim Wegner [SMTP:[e-mail]] wrote:
> Guy asked:
>
> > Is the actual 20.0.9 version still sustaining integer-math? I must ask
> > this, because my favoured "buggy" julibrots are still working with that
> > version!
>
> Yes, integer math is still in the regular 20.0.9 version. I lobbied to
> take out integer math earlier, but the team didn't go along with me
> <grin!> My guess is that the DOS medium memory model version
> will always support integer math, but integer math will die when we
> abandon the medium memory model.

I hope that the integer math option will still be there somewhere...
Those poor old 386's and486sx's need something to do to keep them
feeling like they are needed!!!!

Theres nothing they like better than sitting in the corner calculating
fractals all day every day... they (virtually) purr...

:-)





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The box said "Requires Windows 95 or better." I can't understand why it won't work on my Linux computer.

(If you want my PGP public key send me an email with "get public key" as the subject.)

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From: Mike Traynor <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Partobat
Date: 15 Mar 2000 15:30:32 -0500

The version of Partobat at Spanky did not run on my PIII.  Jo Weber's site
has two more recent versions at:

http://www.hajoweber.de/download/programs.htm

and the latter of these ran fine on my machine under W98.

Mike

"Paul N. Lee" wrote:
>
> Guy Marson wrote:
> >
> > Will ask again 2 questions:
> >     Is there a version of PARTOBAT.EXE running well
> >     in a Dos-Window of WINDOWS 98?
>
>     Yes, it has worked fine on both releases of Windows-98.
>
> >
> >     and were can I download it?
>
>     http://spanky.triumf.ca/pub/fractals/programs/ibmpc/
>
> P.N.L.
> --------------------------------------------------------------
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>
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Subject: Re: (fractint) Partobat
Date: 15 Mar 2000 12:27:05 -0500



>>>Will ask again 2 questions: Is there a version of PARTOBAT.EXE running well
in a Dos-Window of WINDOWS 98? and were can I download it?<<<

Guy,

There was a problem with earlier versions of partobat - it wouldn't run on
computers faster than 200Mhz because of a bug in the Pascal compiler. I don't
think this had anything to do with Windows. This was fixed in a later version. I
see Ken has already responded to you but if you can't find the latest version,
email me and I'll try to dig it up for you. I think the version I have is 3.5.

Nick



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From: Jim Muth <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Float-only version par-file broken
Date: 15 Mar 2000 12:26:43 -0500 (EST)


There is a serious bug in the just-released float-only version
of Fractint, which causes the center coordinate data to be written
incorrectly to the parameter file.  This bug affects images with a
magnitude greater than 1e006, where the center coordinate data is
rounded and truncated to 6 decimal places as it is written.  The
corresponding version (20.0.9) with integer math appears to be
working correctly.

Jim M.


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Subject: Re: (fractint) Partobat
Date: 15 Mar 2000 11:24:49 -0600

Guy Marson wrote:
>
> Will ask again 2 questions:
>     Is there a version of PARTOBAT.EXE running well
>     in a Dos-Window of WINDOWS 98?

    Yes, it has worked fine on both releases of Windows-98.

>
>     and were can I download it?

    http://spanky.triumf.ca/pub/fractals/programs/ibmpc/


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Subject: Re: (fractint) latest orgform
Date: 15 Mar 2000 11:20:40 -0600

[e-mail] wrote:
>
> My orgform files are dated 10-09-99
> is there a more current version
>

The latest version of 3.3 (October 10, 1999) is the only one that I am
aware of at this time:

     http://spanky.triumf.ca/pub/fractals/programs/ibmpc/

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From: Tim Wegner <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Float-only version par-file broken
Date: 15 Mar 2000 22:05:46 -0600

Jim Muth wrote:

> There is a serious bug in the just-released float-only version
> of Fractint, which causes the center coordinate data to be written
> incorrectly to the parameter file.

I can reproduce the problem, and and know where to look to fix it.
Thanks!

Tim


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From: Bill Jemison <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Speed and precision in UF compared to Fractint
Date: 15 Mar 2000 11:16:40 -0500

Jon,

You mention the divide and conquer methodology using Fractint. There is n=
o
longer a need for that, as Fractint v.20 (+) has the ability to generate
very large fractals without dividing. I realize there may be other reason=
s
to divide - such as using many machines (as I recall you used to do). I
just wanted to point out this new capability with Fractint20, in case you=

aren't aware of it.

I have generated images of 16000x12000 during the testing of the feature.=


Bill

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From: Tim Wegner <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Float-only version par-file broken
Date: 15 Mar 2000 22:51:01 -0600

I looked into the bug Jim Muth mentioned, and
found this in the code:

/* FIX ME */
put_parm(1 ? "%g/%g" :
    "%+20.17lf/%+20.17lf", Xctr, Yctr);

ARRGGHHH! I had noticed the problem and flagged
it with a FIX ME and then never fixed it!!! I
have updated the float-only file at
fractint.org. The file name hasn't changed, it
is still

ftp://ftp.fractint.org/fractdevfo.zip

but it now reports itself as 20.0.9.1

I'm the only one who has ever seen the float-
only code. I need to get it uploaded for the
team - I'll do it in the next few days.

Tim

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From: "Paul N. Lee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Partobat
Date: 15 Mar 2000 23:43:40 -0600

Mike Traynor wrote:
>
> The version of Partobat at Spanky did
> not run on my PIII.  Jo Weber's site
> has two more recent versions at:
>
> http://www.hajoweber.de/download/programs.htm
>
> and the latter of these ran fine on my machine under W98.
>
> "Paul N. Lee" wrote:
> >
> > Yes, it has worked fine on both releases of Windows-98.
> >
> >     http://spanky.triumf.ca/pub/fractals/programs/ibmpc/
> >

These are the versions that are available at Spanky's from the URL I
gave above:

     PARTOB.DOC,      1 Kb,
     PARTOB.ZIP,     18 Kb,
     PARTOB34.ZIP,   18 Kb,
     PARTOB35.ZIP,   18 Kb,

Don't remember where I got mine, but I know that the copies on my
various PCs were acquired quite some time ago (in the previous
millenium).


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From: Jim Muth <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) FOTD, 16-03-00 (Rolling Grassland [6]) (c)
Date: 16 Mar 2000 01:45:10 -0500 (EST)


FOTD -- March 16, 2000  (Rating 6)

Fractal enthusiasts and visionaries:

Having survived the tempests of the Ides of March, I thought a
nice soothing fractal would be an appropriate way to end the
day.  So I unpacked an image I had stored away a year or so ago,
touched up the coloring a bit, and declared the result FOTD for
March 16.

To me, this picture resembles a scene on a rolling, wind-swept,
grass-covered prairie.  All we need is a cloud or two in the sky
to complete the illusion.  Of course, no camera was used to
create the scene other than the camera of the mind.  The formula
that created the picture is my RectangularN, which computes the
Rectangular (imag[z],imag[c]) slices of Z^n+C.  In the case of
today's picture, n=1.1.

I named the picture "Rolling Grassland".  The reason for the
name will be apparent as soon as the image is viewed.  That
image may be viewed by running the parameter file and waiting
8-1/2 minutes, or by going to:

          <alt.binaries.pictures.fractals>

or to:

          <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html>

and downloading the JPEG file from there.

The fractal weather was near perfect today, with a temperature
of 70F (21C) that gave the cats their best day of the year.
Unfortunately, in the late afternoon an unexpectedly strong wind
arose, which struck a pile of old newspapers that I had stacked
on the porch, and scattered them all over the yard.  I knew I
should have tied that bundle.

Once again I have fallen short on my philosophical musings, but
once again tomorrow I'll have another try.  Until then, take
care, and be at peace.


Jim Muth
[e-mail]


START 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================

Rolling_Grassland  { ; time=0:08:26.40 SF5 on a P200
                     ;  Version 2000 Patchlevel 9
  reset=2000 type=formula formulafile=slices.frm
  formulaname=RectangularN passes=1
  center-mag=-0.00255084527186440/+0.00001503202402791\
  /178233/0.001255/0.148/89.811
  params=1.1/0/0/0/0.041627863/-0.002064849 float=y
  maxiter=10000 bailout=25 inside=0
  logmap=136 symmetry=none periodicity=10
  colors=000Noz<2>PozQozRoySox<12>`ow`owaow<3>dowdptep\
  w<13>oqwpqwprw<3>srwtrr<3>sqZsqUrqPrqKrqG<50>em5em5e\
  m4<3>dm4cl5ck5<6>_g5_f5Zf5<3>Xc5_c5cb5<3>c`6cc6ca6cZ\
  6<3>cX6cW6cV6<3>ST6PS6NR7MQ7KQ7<3>KQ7KQ7KQ7KQ7IM7<18\
  >8A88A8798<2>678678789<68>`SV
  }

frm:RectangularN {; Jim Muth
b=p1, z=flip(real(pixel))+p2,
c=flip(imag(pixel))+p3:
z=z^(b)+c,
|z| <= 16
}

END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE==================================


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From: "Tony \(Anthony\) Hanmer" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) aLphabetS
Date: 16 Mar 2000 15:27:20 GET

Here is the first of my 15 L-system fonts!  I'll send the rest if no changes
are suggested for this one - any changes I make to it I'll make to the
others, and then release them.  Save this file (minus the map at the end) as
Alpha01.l
- Tony Hanmer

README { ; Anthony Hanmer 02-03/2000
Angle 4 ; This is the first of a series of character fonts I have devised
Axiom f ; from variations on the Cesaro & Double Cesaro Curve L-systems.
f=f ; They can be rendered in orders from 2 & up, depending on your screen
; size (up to 32k x 32k pixels, starting with Fractint 20.0.8!).  I have
; also included a .map file, defaulti.map, at the end of this file, to be
; cut & saved separately - the default map with black & white reversed,
; giving a white ground & black figure.  From gifs coloured using this map
; you can trace the separate letters & output them into vector files, &
; from there into proper fonts.  To be freely used, but not to be changed
; by anyone except me (I welcome suggestions on improvement, to
; [e-mail]).
}

ADH156_s { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 36 ; Cesaro variation alphabet:  S
  Axiom d\90d\90d/90d/90d
  d=d\80d/160d\80d
  }

ADH156_1 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 36 ; Cesaro variation alphabet:  1
  Axiom d/90ddddd
  d=d\80d/160d\80d
  }

ADH156_x { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 36 ; Cesaro variation alphabet:  x
  Axiom \45ddd\90ddd\180ddd\90ddd\180ddd\90ddd\180ddd\90ddd\180ddd
  d=d\80d/160d\80d
  }

ADH156_7 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 36 ; Cesaro variation alphabet:  7
  Axiom dd/100ddddd
  d=d\80d/160d\80d
  }

ADH156_o { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 36 ; Cesaro variation alphabet:  o
  Axiom d/90d/90d/90d
  d=d\80d/160d\80d
  }

ADH156_L { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 36 ; Cesaro variation alphabet:  L
  Axiom /90ddddd\90dd
  d=d\80d/160d\80d
  }

ADH156_5 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 36 ; Cesaro variation alphabet:  5
  Axiom \180d\90d\90d/90d/90d
  d=d\80d/160d\80d
  }

ADH156_3 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 36 ; Cesaro variation alphabet:  3
  Axiom /90d\90ddd\90ddd\90d/180d\90ddd\90ddd\90d
  d=d\80d/160d\80d
  }

ADH156_8 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 36 ; Cesaro variation alphabet:  8
  Axiom \90ddd\90ddd\90dddddd\90ddd\90ddd\90ddd
  d=d\80d/160d\80d
  }

ADH156_6 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 36 ; Cesaro variation alphabet:  6
  Axiom \90d\90ddd\90dddddd\90ddd\90ddd\90ddd
  d=d\80d/160d\80d
  }

ADH156_c { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 36 ; Cesaro variation alphabet:  c
  Axiom \90d\90ddd\90dddddd\90ddd\90d
  d=d\80d/160d\80d
  }

ADH156_E { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 36 ; Cesaro variation alphabet:  E
  Axiom \90d\90ddd\90ddd\90dd/180dd\90ddd\90ddd\90d
  d=d\80d/160d\80d
  }

ADH156_f { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 36 ; Cesaro variation alphabet:  f
  Axiom \90d\90ddd\90ddd\90dd/180dd\90ddd
  d=d\80d/160d\80d
  }

ADH156_G { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 36 ; Cesaro variation alphabet:  G
  Axiom \90d\90ddd\90dddddd\90ddd\90ddd\90d
  d=d\80d/160d\80d
  }

ADH156_N { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 36 ; Cesaro variation alphabet:  N
  Axiom /90dddd/140ddddd\140dddd\
  d=d\80d/160d\80d
  }

ADH156_z { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 36 ; Cesaro variation alphabet:  z
  Axiom ddd/120ddddd\120ddd\
  d=d\80d/160d\80d
  }

ADH156_w { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 36 ; Cesaro variation alphabet:  w
  Axiom /90dddd\90dd\90dd/180dd\90dd\90dddd
  d=d\80d/160d\80d
  }

ADH156_m { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 36 ; Cesaro variation alphabet:  m
  Axiom \90dddd\90dd\90dd/180dd\90dd\90dddd
  d=d\80d/160d\80d
  }

ADH156_u { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 36 ; Cesaro variation alphabet:  u
  Axiom /90ddddd\90ddd\90ddddd
  d=d\80d/160d\80d
  }

ADH156_J { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 36 ; Cesaro variation alphabet:  J
  Axiom ---------fffff---------ff
  Axiom /90ddddd/90dd
  d=d\80d/160d\80d
  }

ADH156_v { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 36 ; Cesaro variation alphabet:  v
  Axiom /170d\90d/90d\90d/90d\90d/100d/100d\90d/90d\90d/90d\90d
  d=d\80d/160d\80d
  }

ADH156_H { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 36 ; Cesaro variation alphabet:  H
  Axiom \90dddddd/180ddd\90ddd/90ddd\180dddddd
  d=d\80d/160d\80d
  }

ADH156_A { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 36 ; Cesaro variation alphabet:  A
  Axiom \90ddd\90dd/180dd\90ddd\90ddd\90ddd\90d/180d\90ddd
  d=d\80d/160d\80d
  }

ADH156_B { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 36 ; Cesaro variation alphabet:  B
  Axiom /90ddddd\90ddd\90ddd\90dd/180dd\90ddd\90ddd\90d
  d=d\80d/160d\80d
  }

ADH156_T { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 36 ; Cesaro variation alphabet:  T
  Axiom \90ddddd\90dd\180dddd
  d=d\80d/160d\80d
  }

ADH156_p { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 36 ; Cesaro variation alphabet:  p
  Axiom \90dddddd/90ddd/90ddd/90ddd
  d=d\80d/160d\80d
  }

ADH156_Q { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 36 ; Cesaro variation alphabet:  Q
  Axiom dd/90ddd\90d/180ddd/90ddd
  d=d\80d/160d\80d
  }

ADH156_9 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 36 ; Cesaro variation alphabet:  9
  Axiom /90d\90ddd\90dddddd\90ddd\90ddd\90ddd
  d=d\80d/160d\80d
  }

ADH156_R { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 36 ; Cesaro variation alphabet:  R
  Axiom \90ddd\90dd/180dd\90ddd\90ddd\90dddddd
  d=d\80d/160d\80d
  }

ADH156_2 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 36 ; Cesaro variation alphabet:  2
  Axiom \180!dd\90d\90d/90d/90d
  d=d\80d/160d\80d
  }

ADH156_D { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 36 ; Cesaro variation alphabet:  D
  Axiom \90ddddd/90d/90d\90d/90d\90d/90d/90d\90d/90d\90d/90d
  d=d\80d/160d\80d
  }

ADH156_o2 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 36 ; Cesaro variation alphabet:  o (2)
  Axiom d\40d\40d\40d\40d\40d\40d\40d\40d
  d=d\80d/160d\80d
  }

ADH156_o3 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 36 ; Cesaro variation alphabet:  o (3)
  Axiom
d\40d\40d\40d\40d\40d\40d\40d\40d/180d/40d/40d/40d/40d/40d/40d/40d/40d/40d
  d=d\80d/160d\80d
  }

ADH156_Y { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 36 ; Cesaro variation alphabet:  Y
  Axiom dd\90dddddd\180ddd/90ddd/90ddd
  d=d\80d/160d\80d
  }

ADH156_K { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 36 ; Cesaro variation alphabet:  K
  Axiom \140dddd\130ddd/180dddddd/180ddd\130dddd
  d=d\80d/160d\80d
  }

ADH156_4 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 36 ; Cesaro variation alphabet:  4
  Axiom /90ddd\90dd/90ddd\180ddd/90dd\180dd/90dd
  d=d\80d/160d\80d
  }

ADH156_+ { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 36 ; Cesaro variation alphabet:  +
  Axiom ddd/90ddd/180ddd/90ddd/180ddd/90ddd/180ddd/90ddd/180
  d=d\80d/160d\80d
  }

ADH156_. { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 36 ; Cesaro variation alphabet:  .
  Axiom /90d/180d
  d=d\80d/160d\80d
  }

ADH156_, { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 36 ; Cesaro variation alphabet:  ,
  Axiom /90dd/60d
  d=d\80d/160d\80d
  }

ADH156_., { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 36 ; Cesaro variation alphabet:  ; (semicolon)
  Axiom \90c015d/180dc000dc015dd/60d
  d=d\80d/160d\80d
  }

ADH156_! { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 36 ; Cesaro variation alphabet:  !
  Axiom /90c015ddddc000dc015d/180dc000dc015dddd
  d=d\80d/160d\80d
  }

ADH156_? { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 36 ; Cesaro variation alphabet:  ?
  Axiom c015ddd/90ddd/90dd\90ddc000dc015d/180dc000dc015dd
  d=d\80d/160d\80d
  }

ADH156_- { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 36 ; Cesaro variation alphabet:  -
  Axiom ddddd/180ddddd
  d=d\80d/160d\80d
  }

ADH156_= { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 36 ; Cesaro variation alphabet:  =
  Axiom c015ddddd/90c000d/90c015ddddd
  d=d\80d/160d\80d
  }

ADH156_$ { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 36 ; Cesaro variation alphabet:  $
  Axiom ddd/90dd\180dd/90d\90dd\90ddd/90dd/90dd\90dd/180dd\90dd
  d=d\80d/160d\80d
  }

ADH156_@ { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 36 ; Cesaro variation alphabet:  @
  Axiom /180d\90d\90dd\90dd\90ddd\90ddd\90ddd
  d=d\80d/160d\80d
  }

ADH156_[ { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 36 ; Cesaro variation alphabet:  [
  Axiom /180d/90ddddd/90d
  d=d\80d/160d\80d
  }

ADH156_] { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 36 ; Cesaro variation alphabet:  ]
  Axiom d/90ddddd/90d
  d=d\80d/160d\80d
  }

ADH156_br1 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 36 ; Cesaro variation alphabet:  (
  Axiom \120dd/30dd/30dd
  d=d\80d/160d\80d
  }

ADH156_br2 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 36 ; Cesaro variation alphabet:  )
  Axiom \60dd\30dd\30dd
  d=d\80d/160d\80d
  }

ADH156_br3 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 36 ; Cesaro variation alphabet:  {
  Axiom \240dd\30dd/90d\180d/90dd\30dd
  d=d\80d/160d\80d
  }

ADH156_br4 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 36 ; Cesaro variation alphabet:  }
  Axiom \60dd\30dd/90d\180d/90dd\30dd
  d=d\80d/160d\80d
  }

ADH156_: { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 36 ; Cesaro variation alphabet:  :
  Axiom /90dd/180dd
  d=d\80d/160d\80d
  }

ADH156_I { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 36 ; Cesaro variation alphabet:  I
  Axiom d\180ddd\180d/90ddddd/90d\180ddd\180d/90ddddd
  d=d\80d/160d\80d
  }

ADH156_I2 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 36 ; Cesaro variation alphabet:  I (2)
  Axiom d/180ddd/180d\90ddddd\90d/180ddd/180d\90ddddd
  d=d\80d/160d\80d
  }

ADH156_~ { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 36 ; Cesaro variation alphabet:  ~
  Axiom \40d/80d\80d
  d=d\80d/160d\80d
  }

ADH156_/ { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 36 ; Cesaro variation alphabet:  /
  Axiom \60ddddd
  d=d\80d/160d\80d
  }

ADH156_\ { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 36 ; Cesaro variation alphabet:  \
  Axiom \120ddddd
  d=d\80d/160d\80d
  }

ADH156_pd { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 36 ; Cesaro variation alphabet:  pound sterling sign
  Axiom d/90ddd/90d\180d/90ddd\90dd\180dd/90ddd/90d
  d=d\80d/160d\80d
  }

ADH156_0 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 36 ; Cesaro variation alphabet:  0
  Axiom \180d\40d\40d\40d\40d\40d\40d\40d\40d\100dd
  d=d\80d/160d\80d
  }

ADH156_& { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 36 ; Cesaro variation alphabet:  &
  Axiom \130dddddddd/70ddd/120ddd/70ddddd\70ddd\110ddddd
  d=d\80d/160d\80d
  }

ADH156_"1 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 36 ; Cesaro variation alphabet:  " (opening, 66)
  ;Axiom /90dd/60d
  Axiom \240dd\30d\90c000dd\90c015d/30dd
  d=d\80d/160d\80d
  }

ADH156_"2 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 36 ; Cesaro variation alphabet:  " (closing, 99)
  Axiom \60dd\30d\90c000dd\90c015d/30dd
  d=d\80d/160d\80d
  }

ADH156_% { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 36 ; Cesaro variation alphabet:  %
  Axiom /90d/90d/90d/90ddd/120ddddd\120ddd\90d\90d\90d
  d=d\80d/160d\80d
  }

ADH156_# { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 36 ; Cesaro variation alphabet:  #
  Axiom
dd/180dd\90dd\90dd/180dd\90dd/180dd\90dd\90dd/180dd\90dd/180dd\90dd\90dd/180dd\90dd/180dd\90dd\90dd/180dd\90
  d=d\80d/160d\80d
  }

ADH156_* { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 36 ; Cesaro variation alphabet:  *
  Axiom
\60ddd\180ddd\120ddd\180ddd\120ddd\180ddd\120ddd\180ddd\120ddd\180ddd\120ddd\180ddd\120ddd\180dd
  d=d\80d/160d\80d
  }

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From: Kenneth Childress <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Partobat
Date: 15 Mar 2000 07:54:56 -0800 (PST)

> Hi fractinters,
>
> Will ask again 2 questions: Is there a version of PARTOBAT.EXE running well
> in a Dos-Window of WINDOWS 98? and were can I download it?

I have used the current version of partobat on a Win95 system in a DOS
window.  I presume it would work on Win98.  I think I found it or a link
to it on Jo Weber's web site.

http://www.joweber.de/

If you don't find it there, email me off list and I'll send you the ZIP
file.


Ken...



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From: Kenneth Childress <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Partobat
Date: 15 Mar 2000 07:54:56 -0800 (PST)

> Hi fractinters,
>
> Will ask again 2 questions: Is there a version of PARTOBAT.EXE running well
> in a Dos-Window of WINDOWS 98? and were can I download it?

I have used the current version of partobat on a Win95 system in a DOS
window.  I presume it would work on Win98.  I think I found it or a link
to it on Jo Weber's web site.

http://www.joweber.de/

If you don't find it there, email me off list and I'll send you the ZIP
file.


Ken...



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (fractint) some pars
Date: 15 Mar 2000 19:03:37 EST

thanks for posting the formulas...i will look through the list digests to
find them.  Thamks for offering though.

Rui

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From: "Ton Koppens" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) some pars
Date: 15 Mar 2000 22:47:40 +0100

I believe these formula's were post 1 or 2 months ago to this list. There
were about 50-60 of them. If you like I can trace them and send as a zipf=
ile
to you privately.
Here follow the 2 used for my pars.

Greetings,

Ton
[e-mail]

ps. Sorry I react just now but I've been away on training for som days.


=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

frm:GregsJuliaLB {; =A92000 Greg McClure
; p1 =3D point, p2 =3D multiplier, p3 =3D cutoff/type
; imag(p3) =3D type =3D 0/MOD, 1/REAL, 2/IMAG, 3/OR, 4/AND, 5/MANH, 6/MAN=
R
z =3D Pixel, z =3D p2 * (log(fn1(z)) + log(fn2(z))) + p1:
z =3D p2 * (log(fn1(z)) + log(fn2(z))) + p1
ip =3D imag(p3)
rz =3D real(z)
iz =3D imag(z)
IF(ip<0.1)
ct =3D z
ELSEIF(ip<1.1)
ct =3D real(z)
ELSEIF(ip<2.1)
ct =3D imag(z)
ELSEIF((ip<3.1) && (|rz|>|iz|))
ct =3D real(z)
ELSEIF((ip<3.1) && (|rz|<=3D|iz|))
ct =3D imag(z)
ELSEIF((ip<4.1) && (|rz|<|iz|))
ct =3D real(z)
ELSEIF((ip<4.1) && (|rz|>=3D|iz|))
ct =3D imag(z)
ELSEIF(ip<5.1)
ct =3D (abs(rz) + abs(iz))
ELSEIF(ip<6.1)
ct =3D (rz + iz)
ELSE
ct =3D z
ENDIF,
|ct| <=3D |real(p3)|
  ;SOURCE: 150100.frm
}


frm:GregsMandelP3 {; =A92000 Greg McClure
; p1 =3D offset, p2 =3D exponent, p3 =3D cutoff/type
; imag(p3) =3D type =3D 0/MOD, 1/REAL, 2/IMAG, 3/OR, 4/AND, 5/MANH, 6/MAN=
R
; p1 =3D 0/0, p2 =3D 1/0, p3 =3D 2/0, fn1/fn2 =3D sqr/zero =3D standard M=
andelbrot
; p1 =3D 0/0, p2 =3D 1/0, p3 =3D 2/0, fn1/fn2 =3D zero/sqr =3D standard M=
andelbrot
; p1 =3D 0/0, p2 =3D 2/0, p3 =3D 2/0, fn1/fn2 =3D zero/ident =3D standard=
 Mandelbrot
z =3D p1 + Pixel:
z =3D fn1(z) + fn2(z)^p2 + Pixel
ip =3D imag(p3)
rz =3D real(z)
iz =3D imag(z)
IF(ip<0.1)
ct =3D z
ELSEIF(ip<1.1)
ct =3D real(z)
ELSEIF(ip<2.1)
ct =3D imag(z)
ELSEIF((ip<3.1) && (|rz|>|iz|))
ct =3D real(z)
ELSEIF((ip<3.1) && (|rz|<=3D|iz|))
ct =3D imag(z)
ELSEIF((ip<4.1) && (|rz|<|iz|))
ct =3D real(z)
ELSEIF((ip<4.1) && (|rz|>=3D|iz|))
ct =3D imag(z)
ELSEIF(ip<5.1)
ct =3D (abs(rz) + abs(iz))
ELSEIF(ip<6.1)
ct =3D (rz + iz)
ELSE
ct =3D z
ENDIF,
|ct| <=3D |real(p3)|
  ;SOURCE: 150100.frm
}




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From: Barry N Merenoff <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Tracing l-systems - clarification
Date: 16 Mar 2000 16:07:21 -0500

Yes, it would. But a true fractal doesn't keep the same amount
of detail at all sizes. It gets more detail as it gets bigger.
The only way to implement this is by recalculating it with an
l-system program such as Fractint.

Sincerely,
        Collin Merenoff

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From: Barry N Merenoff <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Speed and precision in UF compared to Fractint
Date: 16 Mar 2000 17:04:18 -0500

Yes, in Fractint 20, images larger than 2000x2000 can be generated,
but you can't use solid guessing on them. (At least that's what
I've found.)

Sincerely,
        Collin

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From: Jim Muth <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) FOTD, 17-03-00 (Tessellation [5]) (c)
Date: 17 Mar 2000 00:11:46 -0500 (EST)


FOTD -- March 17, 2000  (Rating 5)

Fractal enthusiasts and visionaries:

A tessellation is a pattern of small square blocks, such as
might be seen covering a tile floor.  The blocks in today's
fractal are not exactly square, but they do remind me of a
tessellated tile floor.  I therefore named the picture
"Tessellation".

The formula that created the picture is (Z^0.6)+2.4(Z^(-1.9))+C.
The value of -92 assigned to imag(p3) sets the bailout radius to
8.  Changing this parameter changes the size of the individual
tiles making up the image.  Changing any of the other five
parameters creates a totally new image.

At 27 minutes, the parameter file is a slow one to render.  All
but the most patient will want to go to the Usenet group:

          <alt.binaries.pictures.fractals>

or to Paul Lee's web site at:

          <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html>

and download the already rendered image from there.

As for the fractal weather, it was questionable today.  Most of
the day was cloudy and mild with a temperature of 68F (20C) --
conditions that the cats found enjoyable.  But in the late
afternoon a steady rain began, which is still continuing.

Due to too much other work, my philosophical efforts went
nowhere today.  I'll try again tomorrow.  Until next time, take
care, and keep your fractals dry.


Jim Muth
[e-mail]


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                     ;  Version 2000 Patchlevel 9
  reset=2000 type=formula formulafile=critical.frm
  formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 function=ident passes=1
  center-mag=-0.88092865427356670/+0.45111991659496370\
  /1.784373e+008/1/-102.5 params=1/0.6/2.4/-1.9/0/-92
  float=y maxiter=6400 bailout=25 inside=0 logmap=505
  symmetry=none periodicity=10
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  V2GWLBYb8_n2Wt1az0Ii0Tv0Pq0Kl0Gd0<2>2L00F00800910980\
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  0Q06P0BN0GL0LL0QK0VI0aG2fG4kF8oD9tBDz89yBFyDIxFNxGQv\
  IVvKYtLbxPg<3>kIagG_fG_<2>WBVT9TRLTP8R<2>F2N0VRD2NPD\
  I_LDkV8vd2zo0zl0zi2rf4lb8d_BYWDRTGKQKDNL4KP0GR09V0FT\
  0IT2NT9QTFVTLYRQbRWfRbiRgnRnqQrvQyyQzzQzzQzzRzzQzzQz\
  zQzxQztQzoQzlQzgQzdQz_QzVQzRQzNQyKQyFQzBQz6Qz0Lz2QvF\
  VkQdVbz2ar4ao6a_8_Y9_YD_WF_VGYTIYRKYRLYQPWPQWNRWN<2>\
  WVIaVGdVGgTFqTDzTBzTBzWDzYFzaGzbIkfIbgKVkLLlNKoPGqPD\
  rQBvR8xT4zV2zV0zW0zY0z_0za0za0zb0zb0zd0zd0zf0zf0zY0z\
  f0zn2zv4zz8zz9zzBzzFzzGzz<2>NzzPzzQzzRzzVzzWzzYzz_zz\
  _zy_zx<2>_zq_zo_zn_zl_zi_zg_zf<6>_zRzzzzzzyzz
  }

frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth
a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2),
g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j,
k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel):
z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c,
|z| < l
}

END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE==================================


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From: Guy Marson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Partobat
Date: 17 Mar 2000 08:03:26 +0100

At 23:43 15/03/00 -0600, you wrote:
>Mike Traynor wrote:
>>
>> The version of Partobat at Spanky did
>> not run on my PIII.  Jo Weber's site
>> has two more recent versions at:
>>
>> http://www.hajoweber.de/download/programs.htm
>>
>> and the latter of these ran fine on my machine under W98.
>>
>> "Paul N. Lee" wrote:
>> >
>> > Yes, it has worked fine on both releases of Windows-98.
>> >
>> >     http://spanky.triumf.ca/pub/fractals/programs/ibmpc/
>> >
>
>These are the versions that are available at Spanky's from the URL I
>gave above:
>
>     PARTOB.DOC,      1 Kb,
>     PARTOB.ZIP,     18 Kb,
>     PARTOB34.ZIP,   18 Kb,
>     PARTOB35.ZIP,   18 Kb,
>
>Don't remember where I got mine, but I know that the copies on my
>various PCs were acquired quite some time ago (in the previous
>millenium).
>
>
>P.N.L.



Hi fractinters,

Many thanks to everybody for the info's about partobat!
i'm running now the version 3.5, my old 3.1 is out of order..

cheers,

Guy


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From: Guy Marson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Partobat
Date: 17 Mar 2000 08:03:26 +0100

At 23:43 15/03/00 -0600, you wrote:
>Mike Traynor wrote:
>>
>> The version of Partobat at Spanky did
>> not run on my PIII.  Jo Weber's site
>> has two more recent versions at:
>>
>> http://www.hajoweber.de/download/programs.htm
>>
>> and the latter of these ran fine on my machine under W98.
>>
>> "Paul N. Lee" wrote:
>> >
>> > Yes, it has worked fine on both releases of Windows-98.
>> >
>> >     http://spanky.triumf.ca/pub/fractals/programs/ibmpc/
>> >
>
>These are the versions that are available at Spanky's from the URL I
>gave above:
>
>     PARTOB.DOC,      1 Kb,
>     PARTOB.ZIP,     18 Kb,
>     PARTOB34.ZIP,   18 Kb,
>     PARTOB35.ZIP,   18 Kb,
>
>Don't remember where I got mine, but I know that the copies on my
>various PCs were acquired quite some time ago (in the previous
>millenium).
>
>
>P.N.L.



Hi fractinters,

Many thanks to everybody for the info's about partobat!
i'm running now the version 3.5, my old 3.1 is out of order..

cheers,

Guy


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From: "David Jones" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Re: FOTD, 17-03-00 (Tessellation [5]) (c)
Date: 16 Mar 2000 23:31:14 -1000

On 17 Mar 00 at 0:11, Jim Muth wrote:

> A tessellation is a pattern of small square blocks,
> such as might be seen covering a tile floor.  The
> blocks in today's fractal are not exactly square, but
> they do remind me of a tessellated tile floor.  I
> therefore named the picture "Tessellation".

That is such a neat image. Thanks, Jim!

David


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From: "Jean-Pierre Louvet" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Fractal art FAQ
Date: 17 Mar 2000 11:00:45 +0100

Hi all,

The draft for a future fractal art FAQ can be found at
http://www-hs.iuta.u-bordeaux.fr/f-art-faq/
The first page is self-explaining (read it carefully) but I wish to
emphasize two or three points.
First the obvious place to discuss about its final version is the fractal
art discussion list and, for some specialized topics, the fractint list or
the ultra fractal one.
In all the cases I ask you to cross-post to [e-mail]
to help me in the task of archiving your contributions which are hoped to be
numerous (please, use also this address for private discussions about this
project).
This will be done in an automatic way if you click on any of the mailto
links which are in the first page of the FAQ.
You will see that the section relative to technical questions about the most
used programs is empty. Many of you are more experienced than me to
contribute to this part.
And I hope sincerely that you will not agree with all the questions/answers
that I offer to your criticism.
You are all welcome to contribute. It is not _my_ FAQ, it is only my draft
for a future FAQ.
Thank you in advance.

J.P. Louvet


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From: "Tony \(Anthony\) Hanmer" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Tracing l-systems - clarification
Date: 17 Mar 2000 14:21:28 GET

>Yes, it would. But a true fractal doesn't keep the same amount
>of detail at all sizes. It gets more detail as it gets bigger.
>The only way to implement this is by recalculating it with an
>l-system program such as Fractint.
>
>Sincerely,
>         Collin Merenoff
>
Look, sorry, but I'm NOT talking about increasing detail as I enlarge.  Only
about enlarging without diagonal lines going jagged.  I have my reasons for
this, strange as it may sound.  (E.g. a font based on a fractal such as an
L-system - see it at any size, in the same L-system order, and it looks the
same.)  I hope this is clear...

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From: DeBow Freed II PhD <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) FOTD, 17-03-00 (Tessellation [5]) (c)
Date: 17 Mar 2000 11:25:07 -0600


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Jim Muth wrote:

> FOTD -- March 17, 2000  (Rating 5)
>
> Fractal enthusiasts and visionaries:
>
> A tessellation is a pattern of small square blocks, such as
> might be seen covering a tile floor.  The blocks in today's
> fractal are not exactly square, but they do remind me of a
> tessellated tile floor.  I therefore named the picture
> "Tessellation".
>

Dear Jim-

Don't mean to be a jerk, but a tesselation is is a pattern of "tiles" -
each of which is not necessarily square - which needn't necessarily be
rectangular (think of a Mondrian painting of which the "kitchen floor"
example, in which all the tiles are square, is a trivial example).
By far the most interesting mathematical (and aesthetic) examples were
discovered in the 70's and 80's when (I think) Pickover discovered and
proved that the infinite plane or any 2-D manifold (the mathematicians
in the audience will start murdering me now) can be completely covered
by "tiles" of a particular shape he called "kites" and "darts", for
obvious reasons. Escher is another artist who figured out a variety of
ways to completely fill a rectangular or square plane with oddly-shaped,
visually-pleasing "tiles"
Subsequently, I believe, extensions of the same theorem have been
produced which basically allow you to completely cover any arbitrary
surface with only 2 differently- shaped tiles, of which the original
kites and darts are but one example.
The practical applications of being able to know that your tiling of a
certain 2-D or 3-D surface is a) possible, b) unique, and c) efficient
is useful in chip design (a la Mondrian), biologists examining monolayer
growth of  normal vs cancer cells, anyone interested in epitaxial
deposition of silicon, diamond, copper, or carbon (either elemental or
as buckeyball or buckeytubes)., etc, etc.
Well, I'd better quit before I dig too deep a hole for myself. Thanks
for brightening all my days with your FTOD's and accompanying
commentary. I thought "Tessellation" was particularly appealing.
Wouldn't it be interesting to have one of our topologist-contributors
use Fractint to graphically prove some of the outstanding issues in the
tiling business??

Thanks again. Hope I'm not too far off-base in submitting these
gratuitous comments.

>
> The formula that created the picture is (Z^0.6)+2.4(Z^(-1.9))+C.
> The value of -92 assigned to imag(p3) sets the bailout radius to
> 8.  Changing this parameter changes the size of the individual
> tiles making up the image.  Changing any of the other five
> parameters creates a totally new image.
>
> At 27 minutes, the parameter file is a slow one to render.  All
> but the most patient will want to go to the Usenet group:
>
>           <alt.binaries.pictures.fractals>
>
> or to Paul Lee's web site at:
>
>           <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html>
>
> and download the already rendered image from there.
>
> As for the fractal weather, it was questionable today.  Most of
> the day was cloudy and mild with a temperature of 68F (20C) --
> conditions that the cats found enjoyable.  But in the late
> afternoon a steady rain began, which is still continuing.
>
> Due to too much other work, my philosophical efforts went
> nowhere today.  I'll try again tomorrow.  Until next time, take
> care, and keep your fractals dry.
>
> Jim Muth
> [e-mail]
>
> START 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================
>
> Tessellation       { ; time=0:27:37.94 SF5 on a P200
>                      ;  Version 2000 Patchlevel 9
>   reset=2000 type=formula formulafile=critical.frm
>   formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 function=ident passes=1
>   center-mag=-0.88092865427356670/+0.45111991659496370\
>   /1.784373e+008/1/-102.5 params=1/0.6/2.4/-1.9/0/-92
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>   DVT9WV6YV4_W1aW0bY0d_0f_0ga0nb0<3>WW0RV0NT0KR0FQ09P0\
>   0Q06P0BN0GL0LL0QK0VI0aG2fG4kF8oD9tBDz89yBFyDIxFNxGQv\
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>   _zy_zx<2>_zq_zo_zn_zl_zi_zg_zf<6>_zRzzzzzzyzz
>   }
>
> frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth
> a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2),
> g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j,
> k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel):
> z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c,
> |z| < l
> }
>
> END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE==================================
>
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<p>Jim Muth wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>FOTD -- March 17, 2000  (Rating 5)
<p>Fractal enthusiasts and visionaries:
<p>A tessellation is a pattern of small square blocks, such as
<br>might be seen covering a tile floor.  The blocks in today's
<br>fractal are not exactly square, but they do remind me of a
<br>tessellated tile floor.  I therefore named the picture
<br>"Tessellation".
<br> </blockquote>
Dear Jim-
<p>Don't mean to be a jerk, but a tesselation is is a pattern of "tiles"
- each of which is <b>not</b> necessarily square - which needn't necessarily
be rectangular (think of a Mondrian painting of which the "kitchen floor"
example, in which all the tiles are square, is a trivial example).
<br>By far the most interesting mathematical (and aesthetic) examples were
discovered in the 70's and 80's when (I think) Pickover discovered and
proved that the infinite plane or any 2-D manifold (the mathematicians
in the audience will start murdering me now) can be <u>completely covered
by "tiles" of a particular shape he called "kites" and "darts", for obvious
reasons. </u>Escher is another artist who figured out a variety of ways
to completely fill a rectangular or square plane with oddly-shaped, visually-pleasing
"tiles"
<br>Subsequently, I believe, extensions of the same theorem have been produced
which basically allow you to completely cover any arbitrary surface with
only 2 differently- shaped tiles, of which the original kites and darts
are but one example.
<br>The practical applications of being able to know that your tiling of
a certain 2-D or 3-D surface is a) possible, b) unique, and c) efficient
is useful in chip design (a la Mondrian), biologists examining monolayer
growth of  normal vs cancer cells, anyone interested in epitaxial
deposition of silicon, diamond, copper, or carbon (either elemental or
as buckeyball or buckeytubes)., etc, etc.
<br>Well, I'd better quit before I dig too deep a hole for myself. Thanks
for brightening all my days with your FTOD's and accompanying commentary.
I thought "Tessellation" was particularly appealing.
<br>Wouldn't it be interesting to have one of our topologist-contributors
use Fractint to graphically prove some of the outstanding issues in the
tiling business??
<p>Thanks again. Hope I'm not too far off-base in submitting these gratuitous
comments.
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>
<br>The formula that created the picture is (Z^0.6)+2.4(Z^(-1.9))+C.
<br>The value of -92 assigned to imag(p3) sets the bailout radius to
<br>8.  Changing this parameter changes the size of the individual
<br>tiles making up the image.  Changing any of the other five
<br>parameters creates a totally new image.
<p>At 27 minutes, the parameter file is a slow one to render.  All
<br>but the most patient will want to go to the Usenet group:
<p>          <alt.binaries.pictures.fractals>
<p>or to Paul Lee's web site at:
<p>          <<a href="http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html">http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html</a>>
<p>and download the already rendered image from there.
<p>As for the fractal weather, it was questionable today.  Most of
<br>the day was cloudy and mild with a temperature of 68F (20C) --
<br>conditions that the cats found enjoyable.  But in the late
<br>afternoon a steady rain began, which is still continuing.
<p>Due to too much other work, my philosophical efforts went
<br>nowhere today.  I'll try again tomorrow.  Until next time,
take
<br>care, and keep your fractals dry.
<p>Jim Muth
<br>[e-mail]
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<br>g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j,
<br>k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel):
<br>z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c,
<br>|z| < l
<br>}
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From: Jim Muth <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Re: FOTD, 17-03-00 (Tessellation)
Date: 17 Mar 2000 15:16:54 -0500 (EST)

At 11:25 AM 3/17/00 -0600, DeBow Freed II wrote:

>Don't mean to be a jerk, but a tesselation is is a pattern of "tiles" -
>each of which is not necessarily square - which needn't necessarily be
>rectangular ...  <snipped>

You are technically correct.  Being unable to think of a definition,
I turned to an old (circa 1945) dictionary and found the definition
there.  In that dictionary, the requirement that the tiles be square
is unambiguous.  But since then it has been accepted that any shape or
shapes that tile the plane or fill space can be called a tessellation.

BTW, IMO, Escher was the greatest mathematical artist of all time.  I
wonder what he would have done if he had seen the age of fractals.

Jim M.


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From: "Paul N. Lee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) REQ:  Fractal Census 2000
Date: 17 Mar 2000 23:29:03 -0600

Greetings Fractal Community,

If you would be so kind, I would like to impose upon everyone to take a
moment and please supply some information:

    1.  The number of individuals in your household
        that create fractals.

    2.  The number and names of fractal generating
        programs used by each of these individuals.

    3.  Which fractal program is considered as the
        best or most used by each of these individuals.

Replys are requested to be sent to the following email address:
    MAILTO:[e-mail]

The results will be made available upon completion of the census.

Thank you for your support and co-operation.

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From: Jim Muth <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) FOTD, 18-03-00 (West of Arcturus [5]) (c)
Date: 18 Mar 2000 01:57:42 -0500 (EST)


FOTD -- March 18, 2000  (Rating 5)

Fractal enthusiasts and visionaries:

Looking from the Fractal Central window this evening, I saw the
0-magnitude star Arcturus rising in the east.  Turning and
looking at the monitor screen, I saw a stellar scene, with the
stars arranged in galaxy arms resembling Mandelbrot buds.  Right
then and there I named the picture "West of Arcturus:

The image is another of those ghost pictures that consist
entirely of inside fill.  In this case the fill is bof60.  The
formula behind the scene is 0.476*(Z)+1.302*(1/Z)+C, a
combination that promises nothing but delivers much.

The picture is quite different from my current series of fancy
midgets, though many midgets lie hidden in the scene.  The
standard equal-iteration bands have been replaced by swirling
clouds of multi-colored bits of fractal stuff, arranged into a
subtle but quite recognizable series of Mandelbrot buds.

The image, being one of a starry night sky, is quite low-key,
best viewed in subdued light.  A bright light in the room
totally obliterates the delicate deep blue glow of the
background sky.

The parameter file is another slow one, requiring almost 3/4
hour to render on a modest Pentium 200mhz.  A faster machine
will finish in less time, but still not fast enough to nullify
the advantage of downloading the pre-rendered JPEG image from:

          <alt.binaries.pictures.fractals>

or from:

          <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html>

The fractal weather today turned unexpectedly cold, with an
afternoon temperature of 37F (3C) that kept the fractal cats
stretched by their radiator.

Just as the weather kept the cats subdued, so did the rush keep
my philosophical aspirations subdued.  But I have certainly not
forgotten the things I have to tell about fractals and reality.

Tomorrow may be the day I tell all; more likely it will not.  In
any event, check then to see what happens.  You wouldn't want to
miss your enlightenment.   :-)  Until next time, take care, and
be enlightened, not frightened.


Jim Muth
[e-mail]


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frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth
a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2),
g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j,
k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel):
z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c,
|z| < l
}

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From: "Eleanor Adika" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractal art FAQ
Date: 17 Mar 2000 23:02:05 PST

Hi

Only the suggested tipics were available - and the title - table of
contents.  Is there more?

Eleanor

>From: "Jean-Pierre Louvet" <[e-mail]>
>Reply-To: [e-mail]
>To: "Fractint list" <[e-mail]>
>Subject: (fractint) Fractal art FAQ
>Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 11:00:45 +0100
>
>Hi all,
>
>The draft for a future fractal art FAQ can be found at
>http://www-hs.iuta.u-bordeaux.fr/f-art-faq/
>The first page is self-explaining (read it carefully) but I wish to
>emphasize two or three points.
>First the obvious place to discuss about its final version is the fractal
>art discussion list and, for some specialized topics, the fractint list or
>the ultra fractal one.
>In all the cases I ask you to cross-post to
>[e-mail]
>to help me in the task of archiving your contributions which are hoped to
>be
>numerous (please, use also this address for private discussions about this
>project).
>This will be done in an automatic way if you click on any of the mailto
>links which are in the first page of the FAQ.
>You will see that the section relative to technical questions about the
>most
>used programs is empty. Many of you are more experienced than me to
>contribute to this part.
>And I hope sincerely that you will not agree with all the questions/answers
>that I offer to your criticism.
>You are all welcome to contribute. It is not _my_ FAQ, it is only my draft
>for a future FAQ.
>Thank you in advance.
>
>J.P. Louvet
>
>
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From: Steve Wray <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Hi there, off topic, sort of... number theory anyone?
Date: 18 Mar 2000 22:37:10 +1300

Hi,
I was wondering if anyone on this list is particularly knowledgeable
about number theory. I have a small problem that I'd like to get an
opinion on.

Cheers!

(Just reply to me not the list to save this going waaaaay off topic!)



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From: "Jean-Pierre Louvet" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractal art FAQ
Date: 18 Mar 2000 11:10:55 +0100


J.P. Louvet                | Phone :  [phone]
IUT Universite Bordeaux 1  |
33405 Talence CEDEX France | email : [e-mail]
Fractales sur serveur Web Universite Bordeaux I :
http://www.cribx1.u-bordeaux.fr/fractals/
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2000 8:02 AM


> Hi
>
> Only the suggested tipics were available - and the title - table of
> contents.  Is there more?
>
Yes, click on TABLE OF CONTENTS at the bottom of the page!


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From: "Jean-Pierre Louvet" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractal art FAQ
Date: 18 Mar 2000 11:41:04 +0100

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2000 8:02 AM


> Hi
>
> Only the suggested tipics were available - and the title - table of
> contents.  Is there more?

There is some garbage in my previous reply. I send it again:

Yes, click on TABLE OF CONTENTS at the bottom of the page and, in the table
of content, on any topic listed.




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From: Lee Skinner <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) [e-mail]
Date: 18 Mar 2000 09:35:54 -0500

    1.  The number of individuals in your household =

        that create fractals.

        1

    2.  The number and names of fractal generating =

        programs used by each of these individuals.

        Fractint =


    3.  Which fractal program is considered as the =

        best or most used by each of these individuals.

        Fractint best for fractal exploration
        Ultra Fractal best for artistic expression

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From: Judy <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) REQ:  Fractal Census 2000
Date: 18 Mar 2000 08:33:10 -0800


>     1.  The number of individuals in your household
>         that create fractals.
 one

>     2.  The number and names of fractal generating
>         programs used by each of these individuals.

one Fractint

>     3.  Which fractal program is considered as the
>         best or most used by each of these individuals.

Fractint

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From: Lee Skinner <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) [e-mail]
Date: 18 Mar 2000 13:53:15 -0500

Sorry to post the previous message to this list.  I accidently put the
reply address in the "subject" instead of the "to" field.

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From: Bob Margolis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) U.S. Government Fractal Census 2000 questionnaire
Date: 18 Mar 2000 14:09:30 -0600

"Paul N. Lee" wrote:
>
> Greetings Fractal Community,
>
> If you would be so kind, I would like to impose upon everyone to take a
> moment and please supply some information:
>
>     1.  The number of individuals in your household
>         that create fractals.
>
>     2.  The number and names of fractal generating
>         programs used by each of these individuals.
>
>     3.  Which fractal program is considered as the
>         best or most used by each of these individuals.
>


Just today I received the following official U.S. Government Fractal Census
2000 questionnaire in the mail. Unfortunately, I received the long form, which
is some 116 pages with 2,104 questions. Here are some of those questions:

How many rooms inside your house or apartment, and in how many do you create
fractal art?

How much of your reported income to the IRS last year did you spend on fractal
programs? How much have you spent the last five years?

How much of your annual income is derived from selling fractal art? Have you
reported that income to the IRS? Do you want us to report it to them for you?

Do you design fractal art in the a.m. or p.m.? How many hours do you spend on
that activity?

How many yards or feet do you have to walk inside your house or apartment to
get to your fractal art designing station? Do you receive a shoe allowance to
walk that distance? If so, how much do you receive?

Name those who assist you in designing fractal art. Do they share or rent the
apartment or house facilities with you? Do any of them hold green cards? If
they don't have green cards, are they supposed to have them? Are any of them of
Japanese descent? If so, give us their names so we can report them to the
Defense Department and send them on the next train to internment camps.

Do you use a PC, Macintosh, or UNIX computer to design fractal art? How much
did you spend to purchase the computer, monitor and fractal software?

How much money have you spent in the past five years on equipment for fractal
art? Was the money spent on your fractal art hobby supposed to go toward buying
food and clothing for your children? Have you been neglecting your children
while you've been designing fractal artwork?

Where did you live five years ago? Were you designing fractal artwork at that
time?

How much money do you spend annually on electricity to power your computer and
monitor for the sake of your fractal art hobby?

Are you or any person assisting you in designing your fractal art work
suffering any disabilities? If so, name the disabilities.

Do you or those assisting you have problems in learning your fractal programs,
remembering tutorial instructions, or concentrating during your fractal art
creative process?

Were you or any members of your household designing fractal artwork when they
should have been serving on active duty in the U.S. Armed Forces, military
Reserves, or National Guard? If so, are they considered AWOL?

How much schooling did you receive before you took up fractal art?

What is your marital status? If divorced or separated, was this caused by the
amount of time you spent on your fractal art hobby?

Do you create fractal artwork at your place of employment? Is your place of
employment a business or an industry? How many hours are you employed daily?
How much of that time is spent on designing fractal artwork? Did this lead to a
promotion or a demotion for you?

-------------

We, the U.S. Government Fractal Census 2000 board, promise to respect your
privacy and not share the information you provided with any militia groups or
religious cults. The U.S. Government? Now that's another matter. Remember, Big
Benoit is watching you.

-------------

Regards,

Bob Margolis

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From: Tom Conally <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) U.S. Government Fractal Census 2000
Date: 18 Mar 2000 15:22:03 -0500

Good one!  LOL

At 02:09 PM 03/18/2000 -0600, you wrote:
>"Paul N. Lee" wrote:
>>
>> Greetings Fractal Community,
>>
>> If you would be so kind, I would like to impose upon everyone to take a
>> moment and please supply some information:
>>
>>     1.  The number of individuals in your household
>>         that create fractals.


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From: Harry Bissell <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) U.S. Government Fractal Census 2000 questionnaire
Date: 18 Mar 2000 17:12:36 -0500

Hi Bob

LOL !!!

H^)  harry (a mostly lurker...)

Bob Margolis wrote:

> "Paul N. Lee" wrote:
> >
> > Greetings Fractal Community,
> >
> > If you would be so kind, I would like to impose upon everyone to take a
> > moment and please supply some information:
> >
> >     1.  The number of individuals in your household
> >         that create fractals.
> >
> >     2.  The number and names of fractal generating
> >         programs used by each of these individuals.
> >
> >     3.  Which fractal program is considered as the
> >         best or most used by each of these individuals.
> >
>
> Just today I received the following official U.S. Government Fractal Census
> 2000 questionnaire in the mail. Unfortunately, I received the long form, which
> is some 116 pages with 2,104 questions. Here are some of those questions:
>
> How many rooms inside your house or apartment, and in how many do you create
> fractal art?
>
> How much of your reported income to the IRS last year did you spend on fractal
> programs? How much have you spent the last five years?
>
> How much of your annual income is derived from selling fractal art? Have you
> reported that income to the IRS? Do you want us to report it to them for you?
>
> Do you design fractal art in the a.m. or p.m.? How many hours do you spend on
> that activity?
>
> How many yards or feet do you have to walk inside your house or apartment to
> get to your fractal art designing station? Do you receive a shoe allowance to
> walk that distance? If so, how much do you receive?
>
> Name those who assist you in designing fractal art. Do they share or rent the
> apartment or house facilities with you? Do any of them hold green cards? If
> they don't have green cards, are they supposed to have them? Are any of them of
> Japanese descent? If so, give us their names so we can report them to the
> Defense Department and send them on the next train to internment camps.
>
> Do you use a PC, Macintosh, or UNIX computer to design fractal art? How much
> did you spend to purchase the computer, monitor and fractal software?
>
> How much money have you spent in the past five years on equipment for fractal
> art? Was the money spent on your fractal art hobby supposed to go toward buying
> food and clothing for your children? Have you been neglecting your children
> while you've been designing fractal artwork?
>
> Where did you live five years ago? Were you designing fractal artwork at that
> time?
>
> How much money do you spend annually on electricity to power your computer and
> monitor for the sake of your fractal art hobby?
>
> Are you or any person assisting you in designing your fractal art work
> suffering any disabilities? If so, name the disabilities.
>
> Do you or those assisting you have problems in learning your fractal programs,
> remembering tutorial instructions, or concentrating during your fractal art
> creative process?
>
> Were you or any members of your household designing fractal artwork when they
> should have been serving on active duty in the U.S. Armed Forces, military
> Reserves, or National Guard? If so, are they considered AWOL?
>
> How much schooling did you receive before you took up fractal art?
>
> What is your marital status? If divorced or separated, was this caused by the
> amount of time you spent on your fractal art hobby?
>
> Do you create fractal artwork at your place of employment? Is your place of
> employment a business or an industry? How many hours are you employed daily?
> How much of that time is spent on designing fractal artwork? Did this lead to a
> promotion or a demotion for you?
>
> -------------
>
> We, the U.S. Government Fractal Census 2000 board, promise to respect your
> privacy and not share the information you provided with any militia groups or
> religious cults. The U.S. Government? Now that's another matter. Remember, Big
> Benoit is watching you.
>
> -------------
>
> Regards,
>
> Bob Margolis
>
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From: davides <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) REQ:  Fractal Census 2000
Date: 18 Mar 2000 18:28:27 -0500

At 11:29 PM 3/17/2000 -0600, you wrote:
>Greetings Fractal Community,
>
>If you would be so kind, I would like to impose upon everyone to take a
>moment and please supply some information:
>
>    1.  The number of individuals in your household
>        that create fractals.

1

>    2.  The number and names of fractal generating
>        programs used by each of these individuals.

Fractint
UltraFractal
FractalZPlot
Iterations

>    3.  Which fractal program is considered as the
>        best or most used by each of these individuals.


Due to extremely limited time which disallows competent familiarity with
each, best seems to be UltraFractal.

Most used is Fractint.

Still trying to find time for FractalZplot







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>    MAILTO:[e-mail]
>
>The results will be made available upon completion of the census.
>
>Thank you for your support and co-operation.
>
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Back up my hard drive?
How do I put it in reverse?

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Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractal Census
Date: 18 Mar 2000 21:17:08 EST

1.  The number of individuals in your household
         that create fractals.
        2

     2.  The number and names of fractal generating
         programs used by each of these individuals.
        fractint
        UF
        FractalZPlot

     3.  Which fractal program is considered as the
         best or most used by each of these individuals.
        fractint
            1) is used almost exclusively by me for fractal exploring
            2) dos is dead dad!
        UF
            1) mostly for coloring and "artsy stuff"
            2) to complicated and you gotta be a math geek to us it
        FractalZplot
            1) haven't used it.... just " dad come see this".
            2) exclusively used by daughter "it's easy and natural to use and
gives
                me good results all the time"

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From: Jim Muth <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) FOTD, 19-03-00 (Thunderbolts of Thor [4]) (c)
Date: 19 Mar 2000 01:02:32 -0500 (EST)


FOTD -- March 19, 2000  (Rating 4)

Fractal enthusiasts and visionaries:

If today's fractal doesn't rate an 8, may Thor send down his
thunderbolts.

Well, today's fractal rates only a somewhat-below-average 4, and
the thunderbolts have already started falling.  The picture is
named "Thunderbolts of Thor" in honor of that Norse god of
thunder.  The whimsical formula behind the image is
sqrt(Z)-sqr(Z)+C, another of those expressions that promises
little but delivers much.

The scene consists of the obligatory midget surrounded by a very
convincing display of yellow lightning bolts against a blue
background, radiating outward from the midget in jagged spokes.

The parameter file takes around three minutes to render -- not
too bad for most fractalists.  And the fully rendered image is
available in JPEG format for download on Usenet at:

          <alt.binaries.pictures.fractals>

and on the Web at:

          <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html>

The fractal weather today was sunny but quite chilly, with a
temperature of 36F (2C), which kept the cats firmly indoors.

However, it was a fine day to get some of the fractal central
yard work out of the way, and I worked most of the afternoon
clearing an unsightly tangle of vines from the side of the
garage.  Unfortunately, this left little time for writing the
fractosophy I pondered while pulling on the vines.  I may get my
thoughts posted tomorrow; I may not.  Regardless, I'll return
then with the next FOTD and a few words about something.

Until tomorrow, take care, and the philosophy is building.


Jim Muth
[e-mail]


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frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth
a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2),
g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j,
k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel):
z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c,
|z| < l
}

END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE==================================


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From: Jim Muth <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) FOTD, 20-03-00 (Thunderbolts of Thor [7]) (c)
Date: 19 Mar 2000 23:56:42 -0500 (EST)


FOTD -- March 20, 2000  (Rating 7)

Fractal enthusiasts and visionaries:

It's been a rather exciting day here at Fractal Central, with a
hostage standoff situation in progress only 2 miles (3km) away.
But that has had no effect on the fractals, which once again
appeared almost by magic, as though nothing had happened.  And
today's fractal, at least in my opinion, earns an above average
rating of 7.

To create today's image, I entered some of my more bizarre
parameters into the M-Mix4 formula, finally finding the interes-
ting fractal that results when 1/Z is added to 666*Z^666 before
adding C.  I chose the number 666 because that number is consi-
dered apocalyptic in some circles, and I enjoy defying danger.

Today's FOTD is another of those unlikely images, since one
would suppose that 666 parts of Z^666 would simply obliterate
one measly part of 1/Z, resulting in a boring open circle with
665 tiny identical bays.  In the world of fractals however,
things are seldom as one would suppose, and instead of the
boring circle, the expression fills the screen with an interes-
ting fractal.

I named the picture "Midget Inferno" after deciding on the dark
red and black color scheme for the scene, which gives the
impression of lurid flashes of red breaking through billowing
clouds of black smoke.

The parameter file takes 4 minutes to render.  The JPEG image
has been posted as always to the Usenet binary newsgroup:

          <alt.binaries.pictures.fractals>

and to the web at:

          <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html>

The fractal weather today was raw.  Heavy clouds off the ocean,
and a chilly wind of 42 degrees F (5.5 degrees C) made condi-
tions too unpleasant for the cats to venture out of doors.  They
passed the day instead in frustrated comfort, stretched in front
of their favorite radiator.

As for the philosophy of the day -- it's still inside me, where
there are lots of thoughts that I haven't had a chance to
compose.  But in a day of two I'll have the ideas hatched and
ready to propose on the philofractal list.  So keep tuned to
that list.  You wouldn't want to miss the enlightenment, not
would you want to miss your chance to correct a mistaken wannabe
philosopher.

Until tomorrow, take care, and save the best fractal until last.


Jim Muth
[e-mail]


START 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================

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frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth
a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2),
g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j,
k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel):
z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c,
|z| < l
}

END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE==================================


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From: Jim Muth <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) FOTD, 20-03-00 (Midget Inferno [7]) (c)
Date: 19 Mar 2000 23:58:55 -0500 (EST)


FOTD -- March 20, 2000  (Rating 7)

Fractal enthusiasts and visionaries:

It's been a rather exciting day here at Fractal Central, with a
hostage standoff situation in progress only 2 miles (3km) away.
But that has had no effect on the fractals, which once again
appeared almost by magic, as though nothing had happened.  And
today's fractal, at least in my opinion, earns an above average
rating of 7.

To create today's image, I entered some of my more bizarre
parameters into the M-Mix4 formula, finally finding the interes-
ting fractal that results when 1/Z is added to 666*Z^666 before
adding C.  I chose the number 666 because that number is consi-
dered apocalyptic in some circles, and I enjoy defying danger.

Today's FOTD is another of those unlikely images, since one
would suppose that 666 parts of Z^666 would simply obliterate
one measly part of 1/Z, resulting in a boring open circle with
665 tiny identical bays.  In the world of fractals however,
things are seldom as one would suppose, and instead of the
boring circle, the expression fills the screen with an interes-
ting fractal.

I named the picture "Midget Inferno" after deciding on the dark
red and black color scheme for the scene, which gives the
impression of lurid flashes of red breaking through billowing
clouds of black smoke.

The parameter file takes 4 minutes to render.  The JPEG image
has been posted as always to the Usenet binary newsgroup:

          <alt.binaries.pictures.fractals>

and to the web at:

          <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html>

The fractal weather today was raw.  Heavy clouds off the ocean,
and a chilly wind of 42 degrees F (5.5 degrees C) made condi-
tions too unpleasant for the cats to venture out of doors.  They
passed the day instead in frustrated comfort, stretched in front
of their favorite radiator.

As for the philosophy of the day -- it's still inside me, where
there are lots of thoughts that I haven't had a chance to
compose.  But in a day of two I'll have the ideas hatched and
ready to propose on the philofractal list.  So keep tuned to
that list.  You wouldn't want to miss the enlightenment, not
would you want to miss your chance to correct a mistaken wannabe
philosopher.

Until tomorrow, take care, and save the best fractal until last.


Jim Muth
[e-mail]


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frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth
a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2),
g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j,
k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel):
z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c,
|z| < l
}

END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE==================================


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From: "Andrew Coppin" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) FractInt Extension
Date: 20 Mar 2000 12:46:23 GMT

There exists a feature that FractInt doesn't have that I would like it to
have. Now, I could ask the developers nicely to add it... or I could just
write it myself. I conjecture that the latter will be faster. (Those
developers have more than enought work to do IMHO)

What I want to do is add a new predefined variable to the formula parser
(like WhiteSq, IsMandel, etc). How easy would it be to do this? More
specifically, which source file do I look at?

Oops, that's a thought... I don't have a C compiler... erm... hmmm... oh,
wait a bit: I've got Linux (RedHat 6.1). That's got gcc. Okay...

Ah... But I don't have the FractInt source code for Linux. *Is* take there
is a Linux port out there... (I seem to recall that there was)... If so,
what's it called, and where should I be looking?
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From: "Fliguer, Miguel" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (fractint) U.S. Government Fractal Census 2000 questionnaire
Date: 20 Mar 2000 10:01:35 -0300


The U.S. Government asked :

>>>How many rooms inside your house or apartment, and in how many do you
create
>>>fractal art?

There are pi rooms, but I use only e of them to create fractals

>>>How many yards or feet do you have to walk inside your house or apartment
to
>>>get to your fractal art designing station?

It depends on how high I set maxiter.

>>>What is your marital status? If divorced or separated, was this caused by
the
>>>amount of time you spent on your fractal art hobby?
>>> [...]
>>>How much of that time is spent on designing fractal artwork? Did this
lead to a
>>>promotion or a demotion for you?

;-))) !!! You have psychic abilities !

Bob, thanks for a good Monday morning laugh !

--------------
Miguel Fliguer - Buenos Aires, Argentina
Franktal Gallery - Shut Up and Draw Yer Fractals
http://members.xoom.com/fliguer/franktal.html
Featured this week on FAME :
http://www.crosswinds.net/~fractalis/
(Thanks Joseph !)

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From: Tim Wegner <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Float-only version par-file broken
Date: 15 Mar 2000 22:05:46 -0600

Jim Muth wrote:

> There is a serious bug in the just-released float-only version
> of Fractint, which causes the center coordinate data to be written
> incorrectly to the parameter file.

I can reproduce the problem, and and know where to look to fix it.
Thanks!

Tim


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Subject: Re: (fractint) FractInt Extension
Date: 20 Mar 2000 16:14:22 GMT

> Ah... But I don't have the FractInt source code for Linux. *Is* take there
> is a Linux port out there... (I seem to recall that there was)... If so,
> what's it called, and where should I be looking?

The source for Xfractint can be had at the Fractint Development Team Website at
www.fractint.org. The file you want is at: ftp://ftp.fractint.org/xfractint.zip

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From: Tim Wegner <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Float-only version par-file broken
Date: 15 Mar 2000 22:05:46 -0600

Jim Muth wrote:

> There is a serious bug in the just-released float-only version
> of Fractint, which causes the center coordinate data to be written
> incorrectly to the parameter file.

I can reproduce the problem, and and know where to look to fix it.
Thanks!

Tim


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From: "Tony \(Anthony\) Hanmer" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) The n.nth dimension
Date: 20 Mar 2000 20:25:38 GET

Could anyone out there give some instruction on how to go about calculating
fractal (= Hausdorf(f?)) dimension and area of L-systems in general, perhaps
using a specific example like the Koch Curve?  And, does this work (at least
the dimension part) with L-systems made of non-continuous lines, e.g. made
of intersecting lines?

Thanks,

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Subject: (fractint) The n.nth dimension
Date: 20 Mar 2000 20:25:38 GET

Could anyone out there give some instruction on how to go about calculating
fractal (= Hausdorf(f?)) dimension and area of L-systems in general, perhaps
using a specific example like the Koch Curve?  And, does this work (at least
the dimension part) with L-systems made of non-continuous lines, e.g. made
of intersecting lines?

Thanks,

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From: "Tony \(Anthony\) Hanmer" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) The n.nth dimension
Date: 20 Mar 2000 20:25:38 GET

Could anyone out there give some instruction on how to go about calculating
fractal (= Hausdorf(f?)) dimension and area of L-systems in general, perhaps
using a specific example like the Koch Curve?  And, does this work (at least
the dimension part) with L-systems made of non-continuous lines, e.g. made
of intersecting lines?

Thanks,

Tony Hanmer
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From: "Marie-Luise Beyer" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) REQ:  Fractal Census 2000
Date: 19 Mar 2000 23:16:26 +0100


----- Original Message -----=20
Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2000 6:29 AM


=20
>     1.  The number of individuals in your household=20
>         that create fractals.
one
>     2.  The number and names of fractal generating=20
>         programs used by each of these individuals.
fractint, Winfract a long time ago.
>     3.  Which fractal program is considered as the=20
>         best or most used by each of these individuals.
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From: Gedeon Peteri <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) FAME exhibit
Date: 20 Mar 2000 19:03:16 -0500

I would like to announce and invite you to visit my exhibit of eight
hitherto unpublished images in two galleries at FAME -- Fractal Art
Museum Enterprise.
 http://www.crosswinds.net/~fractalis/

Gedeon
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From: Aero <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) U.S. Government Fractal Census 2000 questionnaire
Date: 21 Mar 2000 00:33:40 +0000

Not sure if I have to answer this, since I'm under the watchful eye of
the UK not the US Gov.


>How many rooms inside your house or apartment, and in how many do you create
>fractal art?
>

I have an infinite number of rooms. I use an imaginary number of them to
create fractal art.

>How much of your reported income to the IRS last year did you spend on fractal
>programs? How much have you spent the last five years?
>

'reported income'? What's that?
I've spent five years of the last five years on fractal programs.

>How much of your annual income is derived from selling fractal art? Have you
>reported that income to the IRS? Do you want us to report it to them for you?
>

An integer fraction of my annual income is derived. I haven't reported
this. Please do (and tell them to 'have a nice day'!).


>Do you design fractal art in the a.m. or p.m.? How many hours do you spend on
>that activity?
>

I spend sqr root -1 hours every morning and sometimes an additional x
squared +c hours in the evening


>How many yards or feet do you have to walk inside your house or apartment to
>get to your fractal art designing station? Do you receive a shoe allowance to
>walk that distance? If so, how much do you receive?
>

I don't have any yards inside my house (I have one out the front).
I have two feet to walk inside my house (in fact I use my two feet to
walk across the yard and up the street too!).
I don't wear shoes. Can I get an allowance for baseball boots or Dr.
Martens!


>Name those who assist you in designing fractal art. Do they share or rent the
>apartment or house facilities with you? Do any of them hold green cards? If
>they don't have green cards, are they supposed to have them? Are any of them of
>Japanese descent? If so, give us their names so we can report them to the
>Defense Department and send them on the next train to internment camps.
>

I hereby name those who assist me... 'fractal design assistants'.
Do your trains run on time? My Japanese colleagues are concerned about
being late for their internment. (BTW is there an Atlantic rail-tunnel
that no-one told us about? If it went anything like the Channel tunnel
it must have been 200 years behind schedule and trillions of pounds over
budget - and it leaks. No wonder they kept it secret!)


>Do you use a PC, Macintosh, or UNIX computer to design fractal art? How much
>did you spend to purchase the computer, monitor and fractal software?
>

No, as a tribute to M C Escher I make all my fractals (and my ray-
traces) by hand. Initially this would save time as windows takes so long
to boot up, until I realized that I need to use the Windows calculator
for deep zooms. Tip - if you try this, put the calculator in scientific
mode for even deeper zooms.

I only use a macintosh when its raining. (Although I eat apples in all
weathers)

I spent 2 pounds and 99 pence on pencils and paper (hint - 2H grade is
best for the intricate details close to 'lake' edges whilst softer B
pencils work well on the larger areas).
BTW - I'm not one to boast about my charitable nature but just so no-one
thinks I'm tight, I didn't keep the penny change as the shop had a
charity-box on the counter, so it actually cost me 3 whole pounds (but I
did get a warm glow inside :)

The calculator cost hundreds of pounds (see above). Does that count?
(But I can move it around the screen and it rarely crashes :)
Although, once it crashed on iteration number 1023, when I'd set my
drawing hand to maxiter=1024 - boy, was that annoying!


>How much money have you spent in the past five years on equipment for fractal
>art? Was the money spent on your fractal art hobby supposed to go toward buying
>food and clothing for your children? Have you been neglecting your children
>while you've been designing fractal artwork?
>

I've spent 23 thousand pounds on 'equipment' (that's a lot of pencils
and paper - did I mention that I draw very fast. Rolf Harris eat you
heart out!).
Food? Clothing? C'mon... d'you realize how many pencils I can buy for
the price of a pair of pizzas, or a sock and trouser?
Children? I would give up all my fractal endeavours tomorrow if it meant
that my ex would let me even see my son. Unfortunately it wouldn't. :(


>Where did you live five years ago? Were you designing fractal artwork at that
>time?
>

Five years ago I lived millions of miles from here. Fortunately, my
house, its contents (and the rest of our star system) moved with me.


>How much money do you spend annually on electricity to power your computer and
>monitor for the sake of your fractal art hobby?
>

Watt's electricity?

>Are you or any person assisting you in designing your fractal art work
>suffering any disabilities? If so, name the disabilities.
>

Yes. When I'm awake I can't fly without the aid of technology.

>Do you or those assisting you have problems in learning your fractal programs,
>remembering tutorial instructions, or concentrating during your fractal art
>creative process?
>

Erm... Yes. What? No. Concentrations? Err... can you repeat the
question?

>Were you or any members of your household designing fractal artwork when they
>should have been serving on active duty in the U.S. Armed Forces, military
>Reserves, or National Guard? If so, are they considered AWOL?
>

What is A Wol? Is there such a thing as A considered Wol? I would like
to be a 'Considered Wol' if I may. Please?


>How much schooling did you receive before you took up fractal art?
>

All of it.

>What is your marital status? If divorced or separated, was this caused by the
>amount of time you spent on your fractal art hobby?
>

Status is perfect (provided that I remember to clean up all the pencil
shavings...)

>Do you create fractal artwork at your place of employment? Is your place of
>employment a business or an industry? How many hours are you employed daily?
>How much of that time is spent on designing fractal artwork? Did this lead to a
>promotion or a demotion for you?
>

No. Yes. Variable. Zero. No.



>-------------
>
>We, the U.S. Government Fractal Census 2000 board, promise to respect your
>privacy and not share the information you provided with any militia groups or
>religious cults. The U.S. Government? Now that's another matter. Remember, Big
>Benoit is watching you.
>
>

Should I trust a promise made by your Gov. I ask this because IMHO if
one was to calculate the percentage fraction of trust most Govs.
deserve, one, I'm sure, would need to use arbitrary precision.


>-------------
>
>Regards,
>
>Bob Margolis
>

Thanks Bob. BTW I have 210 of your fractals in my collection, so thanks
again.

Regards

Aero

:)



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From: Jim Muth <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) FOTD, 21-03-00 (Encroaching Doom [7]) (c)
Date: 21 Mar 2000 00:10:31 -0500 (EST)


FOTD -- March 21, 2000  (Rating 7)

Fractal enthusiasts and visionaries:

Today's fractal is a pleasant one -- a nice central midget
surrounded by flower petals, or they could be butterfly wings.
The only discord is the dark smoky areas on either side edge,
lurking there like some omen of doom, ready to encroach on the
hapless midget.  When I imagined this overly sensational
scenario, I named the picture "Encroaching Doom".

The mathematical expression behind the scene is
10100(Z^100.5)+10.1(Z^0.1)+C, another ridiculous one that was
calculated by the M-Mix4 formula.  When I use this formula,
which is most of the time, I generally enter parameters at
random to see what kind of fractal they'll make.  When I entered
today's parameters, I expected nothing, and nothing is what
appeared on the default screen.

But the M-Mix4 formula is unusual in that the fractals often
appear far from the origin.  Luckily, I did an outzoom before
abandoning the parameters, because when I did, I found the
center of interest far to the left of the opening view.

The color scheme was a lucky accident that happened a few
seconds after I began cycling the 256 colors.  I needed to touch
up only a few registers before the picture was fit to be
declared FOTD for March 21 and given a perhaps optimistic rating
of 7.

At a render time of 5 minutes, the parameter file is the slow
way to view the picture.  For those with better things to do
with their time, the JPEG image may be found posted to:

          <alt.binaries.pictures.fractals>

and to:

          <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html>

The fractal weather today continued dull, dreary, damp and
overcast, threatening rain all day but never delivering the
goods until 9pm, when it began with a few ice pellets mixed in.
The temperature of 46F (8C) earned the disapproval of the
fractal cats, who promptly showed their displeasure by remaining
indoors.

Well, I guess it's time to shut down the fractal shoppe and call
it another day.  Until next time, take care, and yes, fractals
are art.


Jim Muth
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                     ;  Version 2000 Patchlevel 9
  reset=2000 type=formula formulafile=critical.frm
  formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 function=ident passes=1
  center-mag=-9.088203354797765/-0.00219457644305659/5\
  .499789e+008/1/-162.5 params=100/100.5/0.1/0.1/100/0
  float=y maxiter=1300 bailout=25 inside=0 logmap=87
  symmetry=none periodicity=10
  colors=000LAS<3>OAVPAWQAX<3>UD`VEaWFbXGcYHd<4>OKiMKj\
  KLk<3>CNo<3>ZAB<3>aV6a_5be4<2>dt1dv0as4<3>TZHRUKOOOM\
  JRKEU<12>C7nB6pB6q<3>94w<11>f8ti9tl9s<3>wAs<3>mlakuY\
  gp`<3>T`iPXkLTn<2>AHt<8>4Sr3Tr2Ur<3>0Yr<10>WmgYnf`pe\
  <3>kub<12>aji`ij_ij<2>YflYfl_ej<7>h`Yi`Wj_U<3>nYO<3>\
  NbULcWMcXNcY<3>RcUTcTTcSUcS<2>XYVYWWZWX<2>aWZaW_bW`b\
  WacWb<3>eWeeWffWg<2>gWjhWjhVm<2>kSslRumSwnTy<3>rUpsU\
  ntUluUivUg<9>wUNwUKwUI<3>wUA<20>wUz
  }

frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth
a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2),
g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j,
k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel):
z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c,
|z| < l
}

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From: "Paul N. Lee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Partobat
Date: 15 Mar 2000 23:43:40 -0600

Mike Traynor wrote:
>
> The version of Partobat at Spanky did
> not run on my PIII.  Jo Weber's site
> has two more recent versions at:
>
> http://www.hajoweber.de/download/programs.htm
>
> and the latter of these ran fine on my machine under W98.
>
> "Paul N. Lee" wrote:
> >
> > Yes, it has worked fine on both releases of Windows-98.
> >
> >     http://spanky.triumf.ca/pub/fractals/programs/ibmpc/
> >

These are the versions that are available at Spanky's from the URL I
gave above:

     PARTOB.DOC,      1 Kb,
     PARTOB.ZIP,     18 Kb,
     PARTOB34.ZIP,   18 Kb,
     PARTOB35.ZIP,   18 Kb,

Don't remember where I got mine, but I know that the copies on my
various PCs were acquired quite some time ago (in the previous
millenium).


P.N.L.
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Subject: Re: (fractint) Partobat
Date: 21 Mar 2000 00:08:42 -0600

Is something going on with the Discussion List server ??

Just received another copy of something that was sent out days ago.

Have been receiving multiple copies of different postings every now and
then for the past week or so.

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From: "Tony \(Anthony\) Hanmer" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) More Ls...
Date: 21 Mar 2000 12:00:29 GET

Here are some more L-systems, which really are holding my attention these
past few months as a relatively undeveloped area of the Fractiverse, it
seems to me.
This first set are variations on one particular curve - the best thing I've
done yet, I think.  This posting should be saved as hanmerc.l

Tony Hanmer

ADH107h2 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 8 ; Who says L-systems are boring?!
  Axiom f ; I like this one so much, I'll name it after myself:
  f=+f+x--x+f+x++x+f+ ; the Hanmer Curve, version 1
  }

ADH107h2a1 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 8 ; Even orders have 90-degree rotational symmetry
  Axiom f++f++f++f ; Odd orders have glide symmetry
  f=+f+x--x+f+x++x+f+
  }

ADH107h2a1col { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 8 ; Even orders have 90-degree rotational symmetry
  Axiom c09f++c12f++c10f++c13f ; Odd orders have glide symmetry
  f=+f+x--x+f+x++x+f+
  }

ADH107h2a2 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 8 ;
  Axiom fff++f++fff++f
  f=+f+x--x+f+x++x+f+
  }

ADH107h2b { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 8 ;
  Axiom f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f
  f=+f+x--x+f+x++x+f+
  }

ADH107h2bcol { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 8 ;
  Axiom c09f-c12f-c09f-c12f-c09f-c12f-c09f-c12f
  f=+f+x--x+f+x++x+f+
  }

ADH107h2c { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 8 ; Even orders are x-shaped, odd orders are square
  Axiom ff----ff++ff----ff++ff----ff++ff----ff
  f=+f+x--x+f+x++x+f+
  }

ADH152 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ; A relative of ADH107h2
  Axiom ++f ; so we'll call it the Hanmer Curve, version 2
  f=f--x+f++x-f+x
  }

ADH152a { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ; Even orders have 90-degree rotational symmetry
  Axiom f+f+f+f ; Odd orders have glide symmetry
  f=f--x+f++x-f+x
  }

ADH152b { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f-f-f-f
  f=f--x+f++x-f+x
  }

ADH152c { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ; Even orders have 180-degree rotational symmetry
  Axiom f++f ; Odd orders are asymmetrical
  f=f--x+f++x-f+x
  }

ADH152d { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ; Even orders have 180-degree rotational symmetry
  Axiom ff--ff ; Odd orders are asymmetrical
  f=f--x+f++x-f+x
  }

ADH152e { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ; Even orders are long, odd orders are square
  Axiom fff+f+fff+f
  f=f--x+f++x-f+x
  }

ADH152f { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ; Even orders are x-shaped
  Axiom ff--ff+ff--ff+ff--ff+ff--ff ; Odd orders are square
  f=f--x+f++x-f+x
  }

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From: "Tony \(Anthony\) Hanmer" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) More Ls:  Cesaro Variations
Date: 21 Mar 2000 12:04:52 GET

Another set, all based to varying degrees on the Cesaro and Double Cesaro
Curves.  (Here also lurk all the strings with which I have produced 15
L-system alphabets recently.)

Save this as Cesaros.l

(Sorry, I just realised that some lines will be too long for the text box
I'm writing in.  The extra line-end marks, if there are any in your received
version, should be removed and the lines restored to full length.)

Tony Hanmer

ADH155 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 45 ; Cesaro variation
  Axiom f
  f=f++++++++++f--------------------f++++++++++f
  }

ADH155a { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 45 ; Double Cesaro variation
  Axiom f+++++++++++f+++++++++++f+++++++++++f
  f=f++++++++++f--------------------f++++++++++f
  }

ADH155b { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 36 ; Double Cesaro variation
  Axiom f+++++++++f+++++++++f+++++++++f
  f=f++++++++f----------------f++++++++f
  }

ADH155c { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 36 ; Double Cesaro variation
  Axiom f---------f---------f---------f
  f=f++++++++f----------------f++++++++f
  }

ADH155d { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 36 ; Double Cesaro variation
  Axiom
f+++++++++f------------------f+++++++++f------------------f+++++++++f------------------f+++++++++f------------------f
  f=f++++++++f----------------f++++++++f
  }

ADH155dcol1 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 36 ; Double Cesaro variation, coloured
  Axiom
c09f+++++++++c12f------------------c09f+++++++++c12f------------------c09f+++++++++c12f------------------c09f+++++++++c12f------------------c09f
  f=f++++++++f----------------f++++++++f
  }

ADH155e { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ; Cesaro variation
  Axiom d
  d=d\88d/176d\88d
  }

ADH155e1 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ; Double Cesaro variation
  Axiom d/90d/90d/90d
  d=d\88d/176d\88d
  }

ADH155e2 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ; Double Cesaro variation
  Axiom d\90d\90d\90d
  d=d\88d/176d\88d
  }

ADH155e1a { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ; Double Cesaro variation
  Axiom d\90d\90d\90d/180d/90d/90d/90d
  d=d\88d/176d\88d
  }

ADH155e3 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ; Double Cesaro variation
  Axiom d/90d/90d/90d
  d=d\86d/176d\90d
  }

ADH155e4 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ; Double Cesaro variation
  Axiom d/90d/90d/90d
  d=d\45d/176d\131d
  }

ADH155e5 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ; Cesaro variation
  Axiom d
  d=d\90@.5d\62d/178d\52d/178d\62d\90@2d
  }

ADH155e5a1 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ; Cesaro variation
  Axiom d
  d=dd\90d\62d/178d\52d/178d\62d\90dd
  }

ADH155e5b { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ; Cesaro variation
  Axiom d
  d=ddd\90dd\62dd/178dd\52dd/178dd\62dd\90ddd
  }

ADH155e5c { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ; Cesaro variation
  Axiom d
  d=dd\90d\82d/178d\47d/178d\47d\90dd
  }

ADH155e5d1 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ; Cesaro variation
  Axiom d\90d\90d\90d
  d=dd\90d\88d/178d\88d/178dd\90dd
  }

ADH155e5d2 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ; Cesaro variation
  Axiom d\90d\90d\90d/180d/90d/90d/90d
  d=dd\90d\88d/178d\88d/178dd\90dd
  }

ADH155e5d3a { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ; Cesaro variation
  Axiom d\90d\90d\90d
  d=dd\90d\88d/178d\88d/178dd\90d
  }

ADH155e5d3b { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ; Cesaro variation
  Axiom d\90d\90d\90d/180d/90d/90d/90d
  d=dd\90d\88d/178d\88d/178dd\90d
  }

ADH155e5d3c { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ; Cesaro variation
  Axiom d/180d
  d=dd\90d\88d/178d\88d/178dd\90d
  }

ADH155e5d4a { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ; Cesaro variation
  Axiom d\90d\90d\90d
  d=dd\90d\88d/178d\88d/178d\90dd
  }

ADH155e5d4b { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ; Cesaro variation
  Axiom d\90d\90d\90d/180d/90d/90d/90d
  d=dd\90d\88d/178d\88d/178d\90dd
  }

ADH155e5d4c1 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ; Cesaro variation
  Axiom d
  d=d\90d\88d/178d\88d/178d\90d
  }

ADH155e5d4c2 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ; Cesaro variation
  Axiom d\90d\90d\90d
  d=d\90d\88d/178d\88d/178d\90d
  }

ADH155e5d4c3 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ; Cesaro variation
  Axiom d/90d/90d/90d
  d=d\90d\88d/178d\88d/178d\90d
  }

ADH155e5d4c4 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ; Cesaro variation
  Axiom ddd/90dd/90ddd/90dd
  d=d\90d\88d/178d\88d/178d\90d
  }

ADH155e5d5 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ; Cesaro variation
  Axiom d/90d/90d/90d
  d=dd\90d\88d/178d\88d/178ddd
  }

ADH155e6 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ; Double Cesaro variation
  Axiom d\90d\90d\90d
  d=d\90@.5d\62d/178d\52d/178d\62d\90@2d
  }

ADH155e7 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ; Double Cesaro variation
  Axiom d\72d\72d\72d\72d
  d=d\90@.5d\62d/178d\52d/178d\62d\90@2d
  }

ADH155e8 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ; Double Cesaro variation
  Axiom \2d\176d/86d\176d/86d\176d/86d\176d
  d=d/88d\176d/88d
  }

ADH155e8col1 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ; Double Cesaro variation, coloured
  Axiom \2c09d\176d/86c12d\176d/86c09d\176d/86c12d\176d
  d=d/88d\176d/88d
  }

ADH155e8col2 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ; Double Cesaro variation, coloured
  Axiom \2c09d\176c12d/86c09d\176c12d/86c09d\176c12d/86c09d\176c12d
  d=d/88d\176d/88d
  }

ADH155e9a1 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ; Cesaro variation
  Axiom d
  d=d/90d\176d\4d/90d
  }

ADH155e9a2 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ; Cesaro variation
  Axiom d\90d\90d\90d
  d=d/90d\176d\4d/90d
  }

ADH155e9a3 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ; Cesaro variation
  Axiom d/90d/90d/90d
  d=d/90d\176d\4d/90d
  }

ADH155f1 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ; Double Cesaro variation
  Axiom d/90d/90d/90d
  d=d/90@.8d\180@1.25d/90d
  }

ADH155f2 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ; Double Cesaro variation
  Axiom d\90d\90d\90d/180d/90d/90d/90d
  d=d/90@.8d\180@1.25d/90d
  }

ADH155g1 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ; Double Cesaro variation
  Axiom d\90d\90d\90d
  d=d\88d/176d\88d\88d/176d\88d
  }

ADH155g2 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ; Double Cesaro variation
  Axiom d\90d\90d\90d/180d/90d/90d/90d
  d=d\88d/176d\88d\88d/176d\88d
  }

ADH155h1 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ; Cesaro variation
  Axiom d\90d\90d\90d
  d=dd\88d\88d/176dd/176d\88d\88dd
  }

ADH155h2 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ; Cesaro variation
  Axiom d\90d\90d\90d/180d/90d/90d/90d
  d=dd\88d\88d/176dd/176d\88d\88dd
  }

ADH155h3 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ; Cesaro variation
  Axiom d
  d=ddd\88dd\88dd/176dddd/176dd\88dd\88ddd
  }

ADH155i1 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ; Cesaro variation
  Axiom d\90d\90d\90d
  d=dd\88d\88d/176d\88d/176d\88d/176d\88d\88dd
  }

ADH155i2 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ; Cesaro variation
  Axiom d\90d\90d\90d/180d/90d/90d/90d
  d=dd\88d\88d/176d\88d/176d\88d/176d\88d\88dd
  }

ADH155i3a { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ; Cesaro variation
  Axiom d\90d\90d\90d
  d=ddd\88dd\88dd/176dd\88dd/176dd\88dd/176dd\88dd\88ddd
  }

ADH155i3b { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ; Cesaro variation
  Axiom d\90d\90d\90d/180d/90d/90d/90d
  d=ddd\88dd\88dd/176dd\88dd/176dd\88dd/176dd\88dd\88ddd
  }

ADH155j { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ; Double Cesaro variation
  Axiom d
  d=d/88d\176dd/176d\88d
  }

ADH155k1 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ; Double Cesaro variation
  Axiom d
  d=d/88d\176dddd/176d\88d
  }

ADH155k2 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ; Double Cesaro variation
  Axiom d\90d\90d\90d
  d=d/88d\176dddd/176d\88d
  }

ADH155l1 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ; Double Cesaro variation
  Axiom d
  d=d/88d\176ddd/176d\88d
  }

ADH155l2 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ; Double Cesaro variation
  Axiom d\90d\90d\90d
  d=d/88d\176ddd/176d\88d
  }

ADH157a { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 36 ; Double Cesaro variation
  Axiom f++++++f++++++f++++++f++++++f++++++f
  f=f+++++++f--------------f+++++++f
  }

ADH157b { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 36 ; Double Cesaro variation
  Axiom f++++++f++++++f++++++f++++++f++++++f
  f=f+++++++ff--------------ff+++++++f
  }

ADH157c { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 36 ; Double Cesaro variation
  Axiom f++++++f++++++f++++++f++++++f++++++f
  f=ff+++++++f--------------ff+++++++f
  }

ADH155m1 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ; Double Cesaro variation
  Axiom d\90d\90d\90d
  d=dd\88d\88d/176d\88dd/176d\88d/176d\88dd\88dd
  }

ADH155m2 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ; Double Cesaro variation
  Axiom d\90d\90d\90d/180d/90d/90d/90d
  d=dd\88d\88d/176d\88dd/176d\88d/176d\88dd\88dd
  }

ADH155n1 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ; Double Cesaro variation
  Axiom d\90d\90d\90d
  d=ddd\88d\88d/176d\88dd/176d\88d/176d\88dd\88ddd
  }

ADH155n2 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ; Double Cesaro variation
  Axiom d\90d\90d\90d/180d/90d/90d/90d
  d=ddd\88d\88d/176d\88dd/176d\88d/176d\88dd\88ddd
  }


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From: "Tony \(Anthony\) Hanmer" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) General Spring collection of Ls
Date: 21 Mar 2000 12:06:58 GET

Just a random set of L-systems from the last while of playing.  Save these
as hanmer4.l

Tony Hanmer

ADH59aa { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 6
  Axiom x+x+x+x+x+x
  x=[@.48f+x+x+x+x]
  }

ADH105aa { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4
  Axiom f+f+f+f
  f=ffff+fff+ff+f+f-f-ff-fff-ffff
  }

ADH105ba { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4
  Axiom f+f+f+f
  f=fff+fff+ff+f+f-f-ff-fff-fff
  }

ADH105c1 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4
  Axiom f+f+f+f
  f=+fff+ff+f+f-f-ff-fff-
  }

ADH104a { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4
  Axiom f
  f=+fff+ffff+ff+f+f-f-ff-ffff-fff
  }

ADH104b { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4
  Axiom f+f+f+f
  f=+fff+ffff+ff+f+f-f-ff-ffff-fff
  }

ADH104c { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4
  Axiom f-f-f-f
  f=+fff+ffff+ff+f+f-f-ff-ffff-fff
  }

ADH104d { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4
  Axiom f
  f=+fff+fff+ff+f+f-f-ff-fff-fff
  }

ADH104d1 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4
  Axiom f+f+f+f
  f=+fff+fff+ff+f+f-f-ff-fff-fff
  }

ADH104d2 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4
  Axiom f-f-f-f
  f=+fff+fff+ff+f+f-f-ff-fff-fff
  }

ADH107h2c { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 8 ;
  Axiom f
  f=f+f+f--f+f+f
  }

ADH107h2c2 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 8 ;
  Axiom f--f--f--f
  f=f+f+f--f+f+f
  }

ADH107h2d { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 8 ;
  Axiom f
  f=x+f+x--x+g+x++x+f+x
  }

ADH107h2d1 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 8 ;
  Axiom f++f++f++f
  f=x+f+x--x+g+x++x+f+x
  }

ADH107h2e { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 8 ;
  Axiom f
  f=x+f+x--x+ff+x++x+f+x
  }

ADH107h2e2 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 8 ;
  Axiom f--f
  f=x+f+x--x+ff+x++x+f+x
  }

ADH107h2f { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 8 ;
  Axiom f
  f=x--x+ff+x++x
  }

ADH107h2f1 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 8 ;
  Axiom f--f--f--f
  f=x--x+ff+x++x
  }

ADH107h3 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 8 ;
  Axiom f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f
  f=f-f-f+f+f+f+f+f+f-f-f-f-f-f-f+f+f
  }

ADH107h4 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 8 ;
  Axiom f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f
  f=f-f+f+f+f+f+f-f-f-f-f-f+f
  }

ADH107h5 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 8 ;
  Axiom f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f
  f=f+f+f+f+f+f-f-f-f-f-f
  }

ADH107h6 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 8 ;
  Axiom f
  f=f+f+f+f+f+f+f-f-f-f-f-f-f
  }

ADH107h7 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 8 ;
  Axiom f++f++f++f
  f=+fx--x+fx++x+f+
  }

ADH107h8a { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 8 ;
  Axiom f++f++f++f
  f=+f++x--f++x++x++f+
  }

ADH107h8b { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 8 ;
  Axiom f--f--f--f
  f=+f++x--f++x++x++f+
  }

ADH107h9 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 8 ;      Even orders have 180-degree
  Axiom f++++f ; rotational symmetry
  f=+f+x--x+f+x++x+f+
  }

ADH107h10 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 8 ;
  Axiom f
  f=-x-f++f-x-f--f-x-
  }

ADH107h11 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f
  f=+f-f+f+
  }

ADH135 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f+f+f+f
  f=ff-f-f--gg--f+f+f
  }

ADH135_1 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f-f-f-f
  f=ff-f-f--gg--f+f+f
  }

ADH135a { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f+f+f+f
  f=f-ff-f--gg--f+f+f
  }

ADH135a1 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f-f-f-f
  f=f-ff-f--gg--f+f+f
  }

ADH135b { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f+f+f+f
  f=f-f--gg--f+f
  }

ADH135c { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f+f+f+f
  f=ff-ff-f--gg--f+f+f
  }

ADH135c1 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f-f-f-f
  f=ff-ff-f--gg--f+f+f
  }

ADH135d { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f+f+f+f
  f=f-ff-f--gg--f+ff+f
  }

ADH135e { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f+f+f+f
  f=ff-f-ff--gg--f+ff+f
  }

ADH135e1 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f-f-f-f
  f=ff-f-ff--gg--f+ff+f
  }

ADH135f { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f
  f=f-f-g-f+f
  }

ADH135g { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f
  f=f-f-f--[gg--f+f]+f
  }

ADH135h { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f+f+f+f
  f=ff-f-f--gg--f+f+ff
  }

ADH136 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f+f+f+f
  f=ff--g-f-f
  }

ADH137 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f+f+f+f
  f=ff--g+g--ff-f
  }

ADH138 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 8 ;
  Axiom f++f++f++f
  f=f-f-f-f-f----g-f+f----g+f+f+f+f
  }

ADH138a { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 8 ;
  Axiom f--f--f--f
  f=f-f-f-f-f----g-f+f----g+f+f+f+f
  }

ADH138b { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 8 ;
  Axiom f++f++f++f
  f=f-f-f----g-f+f----g+f+f
  }

ADH138c { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 8 ;
  Axiom f++f++f++f
  f=f-f----g-f+f----g+f
  }

ADH138d { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f-f-f-f
  f=f-f--g-f+f--g+f
  }

ADH138e { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 3 ;
  Axiom f-f-f
  f=f-f-g-f+f-g+f+f
  }

ADH138f { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 6 ;
  Axiom f--f--f
  f=f-f-f---g-f+f---g+f+f
  }

ADH138g { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 8 ;
  Axiom f
  f=f-x-f-x-f----g-f+f----g+f+x+f
  }

ADH107h13 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 8 ;
  Axiom f
  f=f+f+x--x+f+x++x+f+f
  }

ADH107h14 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 8 ;
  Axiom f
  f=x+f+f+x--x+f+x++x+f+f+x
  }

ADH139 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f
  f=ff--g+ff--g
  }

ADH140 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f
  f=ff--g+ff--g-ff
  }

ADH141 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f
  f=fff--gg-g--fff
  }

ADH142 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f
  f=ff+ff--g+ff
  }

ADH143 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f
  f=fff--g-ff+g--fff
  }

ADH144 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f
  f=ff+ff--g-g--ff
  }

ADH145 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f
  f=ff--g+g+g--f+ff+f
  }

ADH146 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f
  f=ff--g+g+g--ff--g+ff-f
  }

ADH147 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f
  f=ff-g--g++f
  }

ADH148 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f
  f=f-@.8g--@.8f
  }

ADH149 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f
  f=ff--g-ff-gg-g-g--ff
  }

ADH107h15 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 8 ;  Odd orders have
  Axiom fh ; 180-degree rotational symmetry
  f=+f+x--x+f+x++x+f+
  h=-f-x++x-f-x--x-f-
  }

ADH107h15a { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 8 ;
  Axiom fh++fh++fh++fh
  f=+f+x--x+f+x++x+f+
  h=-f-x++x-f-x--x-f-
  }

ADH107h15b { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 8 ;
  Axiom fh--fh--fh--fh
  f=+f+x--x+f+x++x+f+
  h=-f-x++x-f-x--x-f-
  }

ADH107h15c { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 8 ; Even orders are rectangular
  Axiom fh--fh++fh++fh++fh--fh++fh++fh
  f=+f+x--x+f+x++x+f+
  h=-f-x++x-f-x--x-f-
  }

ADH107h15ccol1 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 8 ; Even orders are rectangular
  Axiom c09fh--c09fh++c09fh++c09fh++c12fh--c12fh++c12fh++c12fh
  f=+f+x--x+f+x++x+f+
  h=-f-x++x-f-x--x-f-
  }

ADH107h15ccol2 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 8 ; Even orders are rectangular
  Axiom c09fh--c12fh++c12fh++c09fh++c09fh--c12fh++c12fh++c09fh
  f=+f+x--x+f+x++x+f+
  h=-f-x++x-f-x--x-f-
  }

ADH107h15ccol3 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 8 ; Even orders are rectangular
  Axiom c09fh--c12fh++c09fh++c12fh++c09fh--c12fh++c09fh++c12fh
  f=+f+x--x+f+x++x+f+
  h=-f-x++x-f-x--x-f-
  }

ADH107h15d { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 8 ; Odd orders have rotational symmetty
  Axiom fhjk++fhjk++fhjk++fhjk
  f=+f+x--x+f+x++x+f+
  h=-f-x++x-f-x--x-f-
  j=+x+f--f+x+f++f+x+
  k=-x-f--x+f+x++x+f+
  }

ADH107h15e { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 8 ; Even orders have 180-degree rotational symmetry
  Axiom fhjk--fhjk
  f=+f+x--x+f+x++x+f+
  h=-f-x++x-f-x--x-f-
  j=+x+f--f+x+f++f+x+
  k=-x-f--x+f+x++x+f+
  }

ADH107h15f { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 8 ;
  Axiom f+h+j+k+f+h+j+k+f+h+j+k+f+h+j+k
  f=+f+x--x+f+x++x+f+ ; even orders have 90-degree rotational symmetry
  h=-f-x++x-f-x--x-f- ; odd orders have 180-degree rotational symmetry
  j=+x+f--f+x+f++f+x+
  k=-x-f--x+f+x++x+f+
  }

ADH107h15g { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 8 ;
  Axiom f+h+j+k-f+h+j+k-f+h+j+k-f+h+j+k
  f=+f+x--x+f+x++x+f+ ; odd orders have 90-degree rotational symmetry
  h=-f-x++x-f-x--x-f-
  j=+x+f--f+x+f++f+x+
  k=-x-f--x+f+x++x+f+
  }

ADH107h16 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 8 ;
  Axiom f--f
  f=f+f+x--x+f+x++x+f+
  }

ADH107h17a { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 8 ;
  Axiom f++f++f++f
  f=+f++x--x+f++x++x+f+
  }

ADH107h17b { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 8 ;
  Axiom f--f--f--f
  f=+f++x--x+f++x++x+f+
  }

ADH107h17c { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 8 ;
  Axiom f--f++f++f++f--f++f++f++f
  f=+f++x--x+f++x++x+f+
  }

ADH107h17d { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 8 ;
  Axiom f++f--f--f--f++f--f--f--f
  f=+f++x--x+f++x++x+f+
  }

ADH107h17e { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 8 ;
  Axiom
f--@.75f--@.75f--@.75f--@.75f--@.75f--@.75f--@.75f--@.75f--@.75f--@.75f--@.75f--@.75f--@.75f--@.75f--@.75f
  f=+f++x--x+f++x++x+f+
  }

ADH107h17e1 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 8 ;
  Axiom
[f--@.75f--@.75f--@.75f--@.75f]++[f--@.75f--@.75f--@.75f--@.75f]++[f--@.75f--@.75f--@.75f--@.75f]++[f--@.75f--@.75f--@.75f--@.75f]
  f=+f++x--x+f++x++x+f+
  }

ADH107h18 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 8 ;
  Axiom f--f--f--f
  f=+f++f--g+f++g+f+
  }

ADH107h19 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 8 ;
  Axiom f++f++f++f
  f=+f+x--x+g+x++x+f+g
  }

ADH107h20a { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 8 ;
  Axiom f++f++f++f
  f=+f++x--x++f++x++x+f+
  }

ADH107h20b { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 8 ;
  Axiom f--f--f--f
  f=+f++x--x++f++x++x+f+
  }

ADH107h21 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 8 ;
  Axiom fh++fh++fh++fh
  f=-f--x++x-f--x--x-x
  h=+f++x--x+f++x++x+x
  }

ADH107h22 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 8 ;
  Axiom f++++f++++f++++f
  f=+x++f--f+x++f++f
  }

ADH107h22a { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 8 ;
  Axiom f++++f-f++++f-f++++f-f++++f-f++++f-f++++f-f++++f-f++++f-f
  f=+x++f--f+x++f++f
  }

ADH107h22b { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 8 ;
  Axiom f+++++++f-f+++++++f-f+++++++f-f+++++++f-f
  f=+x++f--f+x++f++f
  }

ADH107h22c { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 8 ;
  Axiom ffff++++ffff
  f=+x++f--f+x++f++f
  }

ADH107h22d { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 8 ;
  Axiom f
  f=x++f-f++x++f++f
  }

ADH107h22d1 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 8 ;
  Axiom f++++f++++f++++f++++f++++f++++f++++f
  f=x++f-f++x++f++f
  }

ADH107h22d2 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 8 ;
  Axiom f----f----f----f----f----f----f----f
  f=x++f-f++x++f++f
  }

ADH107h22e { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 8 ;
  Axiom f----f----f----f
  f=x+f-f++x++f++f
  }

ADH107h23 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 8 ;
  Axiom f
  f=+x++ff--f+x++f++f
  }

ADH107h24 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 8 ;
  Axiom f
  f=+x++f--ff+x++f++f
  }

ADH107h25 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 8 ;
  Axiom f
  f=+x++f--f+x++ff++f
  }

ADH107h26 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 8 ;
  Axiom f
  f=+x++f--f+x++f++ff
  }

ADH119zzn4 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f+f+f+f++f-f-f-f
  f=f+[f+g]-f
  }

ADH150 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f
  f=ff--x+ff+x++f
  }

ADH151 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f
  f=f++x-f+x
  }

ADH153a1 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f+f+f+f
  f=ff++x-f--x+ff-x
  }

ADH153a2 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f-f-f-f
  f=ff++x-f--x+ff-x
  }

ADH153b1 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f+f
  f=ff++x-ff--x+ff-x
  }

ADH153c2 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f-f
  f=ff++x-f--x+f-x
  }

ADH153d1 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f+f+f+f
  f=f++x-ff--x+ff-x
  }

ADH153d2 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f-f-f-f
  f=f++x-ff--x+ff-x
  }

ADH153e2 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f-f
  f=f++x-ff--x+f-x
  }

ADH153f1 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f+f+f+f
  f=ff++x-ff--x+f-x
  }

ADH153f2 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f-f-f-f
  f=ff++x-ff--x+f-x
  }

ADH153g { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f
  f=fff++x-f--x+f-x
  }

ADH153h { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f
  f=f++x-fff--x+f-x
  }

ADH153i { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f
  f=f++x-f--x+fff-x
  }

ADH153j { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f
  f=fff++x-fff--x+f-x
  }

ADH153k { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f
  f=fff++x-f--x+fff-x
  }

ADH153l { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f
  f=f++x-fff--x+fff-x
  }

ADH153m { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f
  f=fff++x-fff--x+fff-x
  }

ADH153n { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f
  f=fff++x-ff--x+ff-x
  }

ADH153o { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f
  f=ff++x-fff--x+ff-x
  }

ADH153p { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f
  f=ff++x-ff--x+fff-x
  }

ADH153q { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f
  f=fff++x-fff--x+ff-x
  }

ADH153r { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f
  f=fff++x-f--x+ff-x
  }

ADH153s { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f
  f=ff++x-fff--x+f-x
  }

ADH153t { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f
  f=fff++x-ff--x+f-x
  }

ADH153u { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f
  f=ff++x-f--x+fff-x
  }

ADH153v { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f
  f=f++x-ff--x+fff-x
  }

ADH153w { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f
  f=f++x-fff--x+ff-x
  }

ADH154a { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 8 ;
  Axiom f++f++f++f
  f=f+f--f+f
  }

ADH154b { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 8 ;
  Axiom f--f--f--f
  f=f+f--f+f
  }

ADH154c { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 8 ;
  Axiom f--f--f--f--f--f--f--f
  f=f+f-f+f
  }

ADH154d { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 8 ;
  Axiom f++f++f++f
  f=f+ff--ff+f
  }

ADH173a { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f+f+f+f
  f=f-f-f+f++f-f-f+f
  }

ADH173b { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f+f+f+f
  f=f+f++f-f-f
  }

ADH173c { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f+f+f+f
  f=f+f-f-f++f-f-f+f
  }

ADH173d { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f
  f=f-x-f+ff+x
  }

ADH173d1 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f+f+f+f
  f=f-x-f+ff+x
  }

ADH173d2 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f-f-f-f
  f=f-x-f+ff+x
  }

ADH173e { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f+f+f+f
  f=f+x+f-x+ff++x-f
  }

ADH173f { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f+f+f+f
  f=f+f-f-f+f+f-f-f+f
  }

ADH174 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f+f+f+f
  f=f+f-f-f+f++f+f+f-f
  }

ADH174a { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f
  f=f+f-x-f+f++f+f--x-f
  }

ADH174a1 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f--f
  f=f+f-x-f+f++f+f--x-f
  }

ADH174a1col { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom c09f+c12f+c14f+c10f
  f=f+f-x-f+f++f+f--x-f
  }

ADH174a2 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f-f-f-f
  f=f+f-x-f+f++f+f--x-f
  }

ADH174a2col { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom c09f-c12f-c14f-c10f
  f=f+f-x-f+f++f+f--x-f
  }

ADH174b { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f+f+f+f
  f=f+f-f-f+f++f+f+f-f
  }

ADH174c { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f
  f=f++f-x-f+x++f+f--x-f
  }

ADH174d { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f+f+f+f
  f=f+f-x-f+f++x+f--x-f
  }

ADH174e { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f+f+f+f
  f=f+x-f-f+f++f+f--x-f
  }

ADH174f { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f
  f=f++x-[f-x+f+]f-f
  }

ADH174f1 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f+f+f+f
  f=f++x-[f-x+f+]f-f
  }

ADH174f2 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f-f-f-f
  f=f++x-[f-x+f+]f-f
  }

ADH174g { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f+f+f+f
  f=f+x-f-f+x++f+f--x-f
  }

ADH174h { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f+f+f+f
  f=f+x+ff+x+f--x-f
  }

ADH174i { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f+f+f+f
  f=f+x-f-f+f++f+x--x-f
  }

ADH175 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom z
  z=f
  f=fxfyfx+fx+fy-fyfx
  y=fyfx+fx-fy-fyfxfy
  f=
  }

ADH175a { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom z
  z=f
  f=fxfy-fx+fy-fyfx
  y=fyfx+fx-fy+fxfy
  f=
  }

ADH175b { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom z
  z=f
  f=fxfyfy+fx+fy-fyfx
  y=fyfx+fx-fy-fxfxfy
  f=
  }

ADH175c { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom z
  z=f
  f=+fxfyfy+fyfy-fx++fyfx
  y=fyfx--fy+fxfx-fxfxfy-
  f=
  }

ADH175d { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom z
  z=f
  f=fxfyfy+fxfx+fy-fyfx
  y=fyfx+fx-fyfy-fxfxfy
  f=
  }

ADH175e { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom z
  z=f
  f=+fxfx+fy-fyfx
  y=fyfx+fx-fyfy-
  f=
  }

ADH175f { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom z
  z=f
  f=+fxfx+fy+fx-fy
  y=fx+fy-fx-fyfy-
  f=
  }

ADH175g { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom z
  z=f
  f=+fxfy
  y=fxfy-
  f=
  }

ADH175g1 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ; Odd orders have 90-degree rotational symmetry
  Axiom z-z-z-z
  z=f
  f=+fxfy
  y=fxfy-
  f=
  }

ADH175g1col { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ; Odd orders have 90-degree rotational symmetry
  Axiom c09z-c12z-c09z-c12z
  z=f
  f=+fxfy
  y=fxfy-
  f=
  }

ADH175h { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom z
  z=f
  f=fx+fy
  y=fx-fy
  f=
  }

ADH175h1 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ; Odd orders have 90-degree rotational symmetry
  Axiom z-z-z-z
  z=f
  f=fx+fy
  y=fx-fy
  f=
  }

ADH175h2 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ; Odd orders have 90-degree rotational symmetry
  Axiom z+z+z+z
  z=f
  f=fx+fy
  y=fx-fy
  f=
  }

ADH175i { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom z
  z=f
  f=fx+fy+
  y=-fx-fy
  f=
  }

ADH175i1 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom z-z-z-z
  z=f
  f=fx+fy+
  y=-fx-fy
  f=
  }

ADH175i2 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom z+z+z+z
  z=f
  f=fx+fy+
  y=-fx-fy
  f=
  }

ADH175j { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom z
  z=f
  f=-fyfx-fy
  y=fx+fyfx+
  f=
  }

ADH176 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f
  f=f++x-ff+x
  }

ADH176a { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f-f-f-f
  f=f++x-ff+x
  }

ADH177 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f+f+f+f++f-f-f-f
  f=f+f-@.5f-@2f+f
  }

ADH177a { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f+f+f+f
  f=f+f-@.5f-@2f+f
  }

ADH178 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f-f-f-f
  f=f-f++f
  }

ADH178a { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f+f+f+f
  f=f-g+f-f
  }

ADH178b { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f+f
  f=f-f+ff-ff
  }

ADH179 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f
  f=f+ff+ff+f+f-f-ff-ff
  }

ADH179a { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f+f
  f=f+ff+ff+f+f-f-ff-ff
  }

ADH179b { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f
  f=f+ff+f+f-f-ff-f
  }

ADH179c { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f
  f=ff+f+f-f-f
  }

ADH179c1 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f-f-f-f
  f=ff+f+f-f-f
  }

ADH179d { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f
  f=f+ff+f+f-f-ff-ff
  }

ADH179d1 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f-f-f-f
  f=f+ff+f+f-f-ff-ff
  }

ADH179d2 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f++f
  f=f+ff+f+f-f-ff-ff
  }

ADH180 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 3 ;
  Axiom f
  f=f+f+ff-x+f+x
  }

ADH180a { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 3 ;
  Axiom f+f+f
  f=f+f+ff-x+f+x
  }

ADH181 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f
  f=f-f+ff-x+f+x
  }

ADH181a { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f-f-f-f
  f=f-f+ff-x+f+x
  }

ADH181b { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f+f+f+f
  f=f-f+ff-x+f+x
  }

ADH182 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f
  f=fff-ff-f+f+ff+ff
  }

ADH182a { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f+f+f+f
  f=fff-ff-f+f+ff+ff
  }

ADH182b { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f-f-f-f
  f=fff-ff-f+f+ff+ff
  }

ADH183 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f
  f=fff-ff-f+f+ff+f
  }

ADH184 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom f
  f=f-ff-f+f+ff+f
  }


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From: Jim Muth <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) FOTD, 16-03-00 (Rolling Grassland [6]) (c)
Date: 16 Mar 2000 01:45:10 -0500 (EST)


FOTD -- March 16, 2000  (Rating 6)

Fractal enthusiasts and visionaries:

Having survived the tempests of the Ides of March, I thought a
nice soothing fractal would be an appropriate way to end the
day.  So I unpacked an image I had stored away a year or so ago,
touched up the coloring a bit, and declared the result FOTD for
March 16.

To me, this picture resembles a scene on a rolling, wind-swept,
grass-covered prairie.  All we need is a cloud or two in the sky
to complete the illusion.  Of course, no camera was used to
create the scene other than the camera of the mind.  The formula
that created the picture is my RectangularN, which computes the
Rectangular (imag[z],imag[c]) slices of Z^n+C.  In the case of
today's picture, n=1.1.

I named the picture "Rolling Grassland".  The reason for the
name will be apparent as soon as the image is viewed.  That
image may be viewed by running the parameter file and waiting
8-1/2 minutes, or by going to:

          <alt.binaries.pictures.fractals>

or to:

          <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html>

and downloading the JPEG file from there.

The fractal weather was near perfect today, with a temperature
of 70F (21C) that gave the cats their best day of the year.
Unfortunately, in the late afternoon an unexpectedly strong wind
arose, which struck a pile of old newspapers that I had stacked
on the porch, and scattered them all over the yard.  I knew I
should have tied that bundle.

Once again I have fallen short on my philosophical musings, but
once again tomorrow I'll have another try.  Until then, take
care, and be at peace.


Jim Muth
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START 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================

Rolling_Grassland  { ; time=0:08:26.40 SF5 on a P200
                     ;  Version 2000 Patchlevel 9
  reset=2000 type=formula formulafile=slices.frm
  formulaname=RectangularN passes=1
  center-mag=-0.00255084527186440/+0.00001503202402791\
  /178233/0.001255/0.148/89.811
  params=1.1/0/0/0/0.041627863/-0.002064849 float=y
  maxiter=10000 bailout=25 inside=0
  logmap=136 symmetry=none periodicity=10
  colors=000Noz<2>PozQozRoySox<12>`ow`owaow<3>dowdptep\
  w<13>oqwpqwprw<3>srwtrr<3>sqZsqUrqPrqKrqG<50>em5em5e\
  m4<3>dm4cl5ck5<6>_g5_f5Zf5<3>Xc5_c5cb5<3>c`6cc6ca6cZ\
  6<3>cX6cW6cV6<3>ST6PS6NR7MQ7KQ7<3>KQ7KQ7KQ7KQ7IM7<18\
  >8A88A8798<2>678678789<68>`SV
  }

frm:RectangularN {; Jim Muth
b=p1, z=flip(real(pixel))+p2,
c=flip(imag(pixel))+p3:
z=z^(b)+c,
|z| <= 16
}

END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE==================================


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From: Ralph Feltens <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) multiple copies of mail
Date: 21 Mar 2000 16:47:12 +0100

Me too!

Ralph Feltens



"Paul N. Lee" wrote:

> Is something going on with the Discussion List server ??
>
> Just received another copy of something that was sent out days ago.
>
> Have been receiving multiple copies of different postings every now and
> then for the past week or so.


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From: "James R. McKenzie" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) multiple copies of mail
Date: 21 Mar 2000 11:02:02 -0500

I've been getting them that way for about a month.  Not enough to be a
bother but noticeable.  Probably just some odd-ball setting that only crops
up once every other blue moon or so.


                             T H A N K   Y O U


                             James R. McKenzie


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Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2000 10:47 AM


> Me too!
>
> Ralph Feltens
>
>
>
> "Paul N. Lee" wrote:
>
> > Is something going on with the Discussion List server ??
> >
> > Just received another copy of something that was sent out days ago.
> >
> > Have been receiving multiple copies of different postings every now and
> > then for the past week or so.
>
>
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From: "Rupert Millard" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) multiple copies of mail
Date: 21 Mar 2000 16:27:14 GMT

Hi,

I'm probably only making this worse seeing as you may all get this message
twice, but I am also getting extra copies of e-mail.

From
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From: DeBow Freed II PhD <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) multiple copies of mail
Date: 21 Mar 2000 16:33:31 -0600


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Me, too - or rather THREE - and  multiples thereof (12 in <3 minutes is my
Personal Best so far).

Since re-subscribing to the Discussion List approximately 30 days ago after a
14 month medical hiatus, my brand-new CD-ROM version of Netscape Communicator
4.7 (as well as a serially double-filtered [Norton, McAfee] web-downloaded
version of Netscape Communicator 4.72 ) have both been serving me up
duplicate, triplicate, 4x, 6x, 8x, 9x, 10x and 12x copies of th same e-mail
messages.

I didn't bring the problem earlier with other users or with the majordomo
because I assumed the error was in all likelihood mine. However, my ISP
(Internet America) assures me that the problem does not reside with them, or
with any installation or execution problem at this end.(All software has been
uninstalled and re-installed more times than I can count by persons more
competent than I).

Still not convinced, I (foolishly) spent the bucks to ask Symantec, as I had
installed Norton SystemWorks Pro 2000 v.3.0 (contains Norton Anti-Virus 2000
v.6.0, N Utilities v.4.5, N.CleanSweep v.4.7, N.CrashGuard v 4.0,
N.WebServices v.1, N. Ghost v 1, and Norton 2000) and Fractint on the same
day. They of course denied any culpability, but offered that "it shurely did
act like a virus".


The PC is a 2 month-old Gateway Solo 9300 XL  w/ a "Speed Switchable" PIII ,
288MB 100MHz RAM, and an11GB HDD, factory-loaded w/ W98v2 and MS Office Pro.
All worked just fine until the day I:
1) loaded the Norton SystemWorks2000 v3 (so I'd have viral protection from
all future net downloads),
2) subscribed to and downloaded Fractint 19.6 ( and 2 weeks later 20.00) from
the Discussion Group's Homepage.

So who else has got this problem???

Thanks - DeBow Freed


Ralph Feltens wrote:

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>
> Ralph Feltens
>
> "Paul N. Lee" wrote:
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> > Just received another copy of something that was sent out days ago.
> >
> > Have been receiving multiple copies of different postings every now and
> > then for the past week or so.
>
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Me, too - or rather <b>THREE - and  multiples thereof </b>(12 in <3
minutes is my Personal Best so far).
<p>Since re-subscribing to the Discussion List approximately 30 days ago
after a 14 month medical hiatus, my brand-new CD-ROM version of Netscape
Communicator 4.7 (as well as a serially double-filtered [Norton, McAfee]
web-downloaded version of Netscape Communicator 4.7<u>2</u> ) have both
been serving me up duplicate, triplicate, 4x, 6x, 8x, 9x, 10x and 12x copies
of th same e-mail messages.
<p>I didn't bring the problem earlier with other users or with the majordomo
because I assumed the error was in all likelihood mine. However, my ISP
(Internet America) assures me that the problem does not reside with them,
or with any installation or execution problem at this end.(All software
has been uninstalled and re-installed more times than I can count by persons
more competent than I).
<p>Still not convinced, I (foolishly) spent the bucks to ask Symantec,
as I had installed Norton SystemWorks Pro 2000 v.3.0 (contains Norton Anti-Virus
2000 v.6.0, N Utilities v.4.5, N.CleanSweep v.4.7, N.CrashGuard v 4.0,
N.WebServices v.1, N. Ghost v 1, and Norton 2000) and Fractint on the same
day. They of course denied any culpability, but offered that "it shurely
did act like a virus".
<br>
<p>The PC is a 2 month-old Gateway Solo 9300 XL  w/ a "Speed Switchable"
PIII , 288MB 100MHz RAM, and an11GB HDD, factory-loaded w/ W98v2 and MS
Office Pro.
<br><b>All worked just fine until the day I:</b>
<br><b>1) loaded the Norton SystemWorks2000 v3 </b>(so I'd have viral protection
from all future net downloads),
<br><b>2) subscribed to and downloaded Fractint 19.6</b> ( and 2 weeks
later 20.00) <b>from the Discussion Group's Homepage.</b><b></b>
<p>So who else has got this problem???
<p>Thanks - DeBow Freed
<br>
<p>Ralph Feltens wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>Me too!
<p>Ralph Feltens
<p>"Paul N. Lee" wrote:
<p>> Is something going on with the Discussion List server ??
<br>>
<br>> Just received another copy of something that was sent out days ago.
<br>>
<br>> Have been receiving multiple copies of different postings every now
and
<br>> then for the past week or so.
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From: Charles F Crocker <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) multiple copies of mail
Date: 21 Mar 2000 21:01:23 -0500

I haven't gotten more than two duplicates of anything. It has been
noticable for the last few days. I have been blaming it on my server
because they have been having problems finding addresses recently. It can't
( I hate to say can't about anything on a computer) be at my mailbox
because I can watch each message being deleted from the server immediately
after it's downloaded.

Just got a second copy of Jim Muth's FOTD for the 16'th.

Charles




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (fractint) multiple copies of mail
Date: 22 Mar 2000 06:54:10 GMT

Well well, someone from my neck of the woods, note the email address.
I have seen occasional, intermittant duplicates. I did not believe it
was my server because this seems to be happening on other lists also
and to people who do not share my ISP. The thing that I have noted is
the length of the duplicates is different. The difference seems to be
in the headers, though I've been lazy about looking at more than line
count. Feel free to email privately if you want to start comparing
notes. Short of an illuminati style conspiracy, I've begun to wonder
if there is a backbone issue somewhere.

On Tue, 21 Mar 2000 16:33:31 -0600, DeBow Freed II PhD
<[e-mail]> wrote:

>Me, too - or rather THREE - and  multiples thereof (12 in <3 minutes is =
my
>Personal Best so far).
>
>Since re-subscribing to the Discussion List approximately 30 days ago =
after a
>14 month medical hiatus, my brand-new CD-ROM version of Netscape =
Communicator
>4.7 (as well as a serially double-filtered [Norton, McAfee] =
web-downloaded
>version of Netscape Communicator 4.72 ) have both been serving me up
>duplicate, triplicate, 4x, 6x, 8x, 9x, 10x and 12x copies of th same =
e-mail
>messages.
>
>I didn't bring the problem earlier with other users or with the =
majordomo
>because I assumed the error was in all likelihood mine. However, my ISP
>(Internet America) assures me that the problem does not reside with =
them, or
>with any installation or execution problem at this end.(All software has=
 been
>uninstalled and re-installed more times than I can count by persons more
>competent than I).
>
>Still not convinced, I (foolishly) spent the bucks to ask Symantec, as I=
 had
>installed Norton SystemWorks Pro 2000 v.3.0 (contains Norton Anti-Virus =
2000
>v.6.0, N Utilities v.4.5, N.CleanSweep v.4.7, N.CrashGuard v 4.0,
>N.WebServices v.1, N. Ghost v 1, and Norton 2000) and Fractint on the =
same
>day. They of course denied any culpability, but offered that "it shurely=
 did
>act like a virus".
>
>
>The PC is a 2 month-old Gateway Solo 9300 XL  w/ a "Speed Switchable" =
PIII ,
>288MB 100MHz RAM, and an11GB HDD, factory-loaded w/ W98v2 and MS Office =
Pro.
>All worked just fine until the day I:
>1) loaded the Norton SystemWorks2000 v3 (so I'd have viral protection =
from
>all future net downloads),
>2) subscribed to and downloaded Fractint 19.6 ( and 2 weeks later 20.00)=
 from
>the Discussion Group's Homepage.
>
>So who else has got this problem???
>
>Thanks - DeBow Freed
>
>
>Ralph Feltens wrote:
>
>> Me too!
>>
>> Ralph Feltens
>>
>> "Paul N. Lee" wrote:
>>
>> > Is something going on with the Discussion List server ??
>> >
>> > Just received another copy of something that was sent out days ago.
>> >
>> > Have been receiving multiple copies of different postings every now =
and
>> > then for the past week or so.
>>
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From: Jim Muth <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) FOTD, 22-03-00 (Giant Fractal Worms [7]) (c)
Date: 22 Mar 2000 01:59:15 -0500 (EST)


FOTD -- March 22, 2000  (Rating 7)

Fractal enthusiasts and visionaries:

While studying this evening's out-of-the-ordinary fractal, I
fancied myself on the planet 'Dune', face to face with one of
those giant sand worms that make the spice that enables the
navigators to navigate and the society to exist.  I naturally
named the picture "Giant Fractal Worms".

I have often wondered why in such a technologically advanced
society as exists in the 'Dune' series, there would be no
advanced computers.  In fact, I can recall no computers at all
in the novels.  Perhaps Mr. Herbert was trying to give us a
message that computers are not the way to the future; perhaps he
simply decided to invent a society that had risen to an advanced
state without the aid of computers.  Or perhaps I have merely
failed to remember the computers that *are* in the novels.

Regardless, the novels are still a great reading exercise, and
the movie is still one of the most incomprehensible films of all
time -- one of the most effective sleep-producers in my vast
collection.

My collection of fractals of the day is becoming almost as vast
as my collection of junky old sci-fi movies.  Today's single-
layer fractal, which as usual uses the M-Mix4 formula, was
created by a mixture of Z^2 and 1/Z.  The parent fractal of
today's midget is a kind of filled-in M-set.  The illustrated
scene lies in the East Valley area of this larger fractal.  It
is located in one of the grossly distorted elephant-trunk
spirals.

The color scheme is another serendipitous accident, which
appeared the third time I struck the <enter> key.  I needed to
fine tune only a few registers.  As a treat for those with more
important things to do than spend 5 -minutes calculating
fractals, the image has been posted pre-calculated to the Usenet
binary group:

          <alt.binaries.pictures.fractals>

and to:

          <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html>

The fractal weather was rainy all day, with an accumulation of
over 2 inches (5cm), which dampened the fractal basement.  The
rain and temperature of 39F (4C) kept the fractal cats indoors
all day.

My philosophical musings were stuck in the same old rut all day,
so with nothing new to tell, I shall remain silent.  But I'll be
here again in 24 hours with another wonderful (IMO) fractal, and
if I'm lucky, a few words of enlightenment.  Until then, take
care, and one person's enlightenment is another person's
nonsense.


Jim Muth
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START 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================

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                     ;  Version 2000 Patchlevel 9
  reset=2000 type=formula formulafile=critical.frm
  formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 function=ident passes=1
  center-mag=+0.59044340977935280/-0.20368178747534280\
  /1.147703e+010/1/71.663/0.08 params=0.3/2/1/-1/0/0
  float=y maxiter=1200 bailout=25 inside=0 logmap=94
  symmetry=none periodicity=10
  colors=000czz<3>SqzOnzLkxIhuFepEbk<3>BOYALV9HR8DP6BN\
  <2>A9HB8FC8F<3>G6FH5FI5FJ4GK4H<3>W8LZ9Ma9N<2>jCTmDcp\
  EhsEm<3>cKi_MhWNhSPgO_fKjeGsdCucKzcPwd<3>eogimgmkhmj\
  hmbimcjtdjwekzekzek<2>zPiXKgQLd3Di<5>4Sd4Uc4Xc<3>4e`\
  <3>KlSOnQSpOTsK<8>dg`eebfdd<3>k_lubv<3>OQQGNIFMK<4>D\
  MRCMTCMU<2>AMZAM_BKa<6>CCnCBpDAq<3>D6x<3>V9p_9ncAl<3\
  >uCe<3>jMLhPGeRBfR5<4>SYAPZAM_B<3>AdF4cE<3>KiGOkGSlG\
  WlG<3>`nHaoHboHcpHdpH<3>drjdsqdsxbtr<3>gvYhvTiwT<3>m\
  ySnySozS<5>uzRvzRwzQxzQyzQ<40>zzJ
  }

frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth
a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2),
g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j,
k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel):
z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c,
|z| < l
}

END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE==================================


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From: "Rupert Millard" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) formula parser question
Date: 22 Mar 2000 16:18:20 GMT

Hello everybody,

In the formula parser how do you use a complex number by itself without
using a parameter.

eg:
a=3*b          or          d=b+3

how would I use a complex number instead of the threes?

also if I used wanted to multiply z by i would 'i*z' do the trick or would
that multiply z by the variable i (which would probably be zero)

Thankyou,

Rupert Millard

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From: "Reckase, Erik Nathan" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Hmmm...what does this mean in a formula?
Date: 22 Mar 2000 11:30:46 -0700

I've seen a number of instances when the looping section of a formula has
something like :

z = z*z/c*c

Does this mean something in particular to Fractint?  I would expect that
this would simply reduce to

z = z*z

but that gives different results...is this a precision issue?

--Erik


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From: Johann Snyman <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Fractint center-mag error
Date: 22 Mar 2000 20:38:16 +0200

Hi there.

This might be a stupid question, but why all of a sudden do I get this error:



   Oops. I couldn't understand the argument:
     center-mag=-9.088203354797765/-0.00219457644305659/5\

   Any key to continue...


when I try to calculate the FOTD the last few days? I downloaded 20.0.9
because I thought that might solve the problem, but it's still there.

Thanks! :)







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From: Jim Muth <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint center-mag error
Date: 22 Mar 2000 15:43:25 -0500 (EST)

At 08:38 PM 3/22/00 +0200, Johann Snyman wrote:

>Hi there.
>
>This might be a stupid question, but why all of a sudden do I get
>this error:

>   Oops. I couldn't understand the argument:
>     center-mag=-9.088203354797765/-0.00219457644305659/5\


I see nothing wrong with the line above, which is causing the error.
I substituted it for the identical line in my copy of the parameter
file, and the file ran correctly.  I created the parameter file with
the float-only version 20.0.9.1 of Fractint, but I doubt if that
could be causing the error.

My only suggestion would be to send the entire parameter file that
is causing the error message, and I'll see if I can reproduce the
error.

Jim M.


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From: George Martin <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) formula parser question
Date: 22 Mar 2000 15:48:33 -0500

Rupert,

>
In the formula parser how do you use a complex number by itself without =

using a parameter.
<

The format of a complex number in the parser is (real, imaginary), e.g.

 (3,2) is the complex number 3 + 2i, and
 (3,-2) is the complex number 3 - 2i.

George Martin   =


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From: "Morgan L. Owens" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Hmmm...what does this mean in a formula?
Date: 23 Mar 2000 13:34:09 +1200

At 11:30 22/03/2000 -0700, you wrote:
>I've seen a number of instances when the looping section of a formula has
>something like :
>
>z = z*z/c*c
>
>Does this mean something in particular to Fractint?  I would expect that
>this would simply reduce to
>
>z = z*z
>
>but that gives different results...is this a precision issue?
>

The z=z*z/c*c does reduce to z=z*z in Fractint, and usually the two produce
the same results. However, since Fractint doesn't actually make this
simplifcation, in cases where c=0, the original expression produces an
overflow while the latter (obviously) doesn't depend on c at all. So in
that sense it is a precision issue - though I can't think off-hand of a
situation where such behaviour would be desirable.

The original author probably intended z=z*z/(c*c), which is something else
again.

Morgan L. Owens
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From: Guy Marson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) formula parser question
Date: 23 Mar 2000 02:51:43 +0100

At 15:48 22/03/00 -0500, you wrote:
>Rupert,
>
>>
>In the formula parser how do you use a complex number by itself without
>using a parameter.
><
>
>The format of a complex number in the parser is (real, imaginary), e.g.
>
> (3,2) is the complex number 3 + 2i, and
> (3,-2) is the complex number 3 - 2i.
>
>George Martin
>




How can one use the functions  'IDENT'  and  'RECIP'  in a formula without
using 'fn1' and 'fn2'?



cheers,

Guy






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From: Phil McRevis <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) formula parser question
Date: 22 Mar 2000 19:24:46 -0700


In article <[e-mail]>,
    Guy Marson <[e-mail]>  writes:

> How can one use the functions  'IDENT'  and  'RECIP'  in a formula without
> using 'fn1' and 'fn2'?

Ident is the identity, i.e. f(z) = z.  So there is nothing to do for a
formula that wants to use the identity.

Recip is the reciprocal, i.e. f(z) = 1/z.

I'm not sure if the parser recognizes 1/z and optimizes it as a call
to a special routine for the reciprocal.
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From: Gedeon Peteri <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) new web pages
Date: 22 Mar 2000 22:18:56 -0500

To make a long story short, since December I have been doing more
plumbing than fractaling, having been plagued with major problems
concerning both my water supply and disposal, eventually requiring both
a new well and septic tank! Being of the persuasion to do as much as
possible without the help of contractors, such projects necessarily drag
out. Spring has also come to our parts, and with it the need to look
after my garden. That I have created some images during this period at
all, is due to rainy days more than anything else. I displayed them,
along with the parameter files, on my web site under the titles
"Variations on an original theme." I invite you to visit.

Gedeon
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From: "Morgan L. Owens" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) formula parser question
Date: 23 Mar 2000 16:29:07 +1200

At 19:24 22/03/2000 -0700, you wrote:
>
>In article <[e-mail]>,
>    Guy Marson <[e-mail]>  writes:
>
>> How can one use the functions  'IDENT'  and  'RECIP'  in a formula without
>> using 'fn1' and 'fn2'?
>
>Ident is the identity, i.e. f(z) = z.  So there is nothing to do for a
>formula that wants to use the identity.
>
>Recip is the reciprocal, i.e. f(z) = 1/z.
>
>I'm not sure if the parser recognizes 1/z and optimizes it as a call
>to a special routine for the reciprocal.
>
I can't see it anywhere in the optimiser source but there is mention of it
replacing x^(-1) with recip(x), as well as x^0=1, x^1=x and x^2=sqr(x).

Morgan L. Owens
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From: "Tony \(Anthony\) Hanmer" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Replacement for hanmerc.l
Date: 23 Mar 2000 10:02:24 GET

... In the course of learning more about Hausdorff dimension from Morgan L.
Owens, I have also been instructed in simplifying my L-systems containing
the unnecessary "undefined x".
SO, here is the replacement for hanmerc.l, which I recently posted,
containing Morgan's better versions of my 2 favourite discoveries.  Please
name this file hanmerc.l and remove the previos one.

Tony Hanmer,
Who still has a lot to learn about L-systems

ADH107h2o { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 8 ; Original version needing improvement
  Axiom f
  f=+f+x--x+f+x++x+f+
  }

ADH107h2 {  ; Anthony Hanmer 2000, MUCH simplified by Morgan L. Owens
  Angle 4   ; Who says L-systems are boring?!
  Axiom ++f ; I like this one so much, I'll name it after myself:
  f=ff++f+  ; the Hanmer Curve, variant 1
  }         ; Fractal dimension, calculated by Morgan:  1.3652

ADH107h2a1 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ; Even orders have 90-degree rotational symmetry
  Axiom f+f+f+f ; Odd orders have glide symmetry
  f=ff++f+
  }

ADH107h2a1col { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ; Even orders have 90-degree rotational symmetry
  Axiom c09f+c12f+c10f+c13f ; Odd orders have glide symmetry
  f=ff++f+
  }

ADH107h2a2 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ;
  Axiom fff+f+fff+f
  f=ff++f+
  }

ADH107h2c { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ; Even orders are x-shaped, odd orders are square
  Axiom ff--ff+ff--ff+ff--ff+ff--ff
  f=ff++f+
  }

ADH152o { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ; Original version needing improvement
  Axiom ++f
  f=f--x+f++x-f+x
  }

ADH152 {    ; Anthony Hanmer 2000, MUCH simplified by Morgan L. Owens
  Angle 4   ; A relative of ADH107h2
  Axiom ++f ; so we'll call it the Hanmer Curve, variant 2
  f=f-f+f+  ; Fractal dimension, calculated by Morgan:  1.3652
  }

ADH152a { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ; Even orders have 180-degree rotational symmetry
  Axiom f++f ; Odd orders are asymmetrical
  f=f-f+f+
  }

ADH152b { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ; Even orders have 180-degree rotational symmetry
  Axiom ff--ff ; Odd orders are asymmetrical
  f=f-f+f+
  }

ADH152c { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ; Even orders are long, odd orders are square
  Axiom fff+f+fff+f
  f=f-f+f+
  }

ADH152d { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000
  Angle 4 ; Even orders are x-shaped
  Axiom ff--ff+ff--ff+ff--ff+ff--ff ; Odd orders are square
  f=f-f+f+
  }

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From: Jim Muth <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) FOTD, 23-03-00 (Forever Fractal [5]) (c)
Date: 23 Mar 2000 01:37:19 -0500 (EST)


FOTD -- March 23, 2000  (Rating 5)

Fractal enthusiasts and visionaries:

Today's fractal formula is another of those that have no right
to produce a respectable fractal but produce one anyway.
Certainly 1/Z-Z+1/C appears as though nothing much could come
from it.  The surprise is that today's fractal came from it.

I named the picture "Forever Fractal" for no reason in
particular.  I simply thought the words sounded good.  The
parameter file takes 7 minutes to render.  The JPEG'd image
takes about one minute to download from:

          <alt.binaries.pictures.fractals>

or from:

          <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html>

The weather was cloudy all day, though no rain fell.  The
temperature of 45F (7C) kept the cats indoors.

That's it for today -- a minimal discussion effort to say the
least.  But tomorrow is only 24 hours off, and I'll be in better
form then.  Until next time, take care, and watch out for
falling fractals.


Jim Muth
[e-mail]


START 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================

Forever_Fractal    { ; time=0:06:53.32 SF5 on a P200
                     ;  Version 2000 Patchlevel 9
  reset=2000 type=formula formulafile=critical.frm
  formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 function=recip passes=1
  center-mag=-0.1527452882469716/0.2641010706712715/24\
  96589/1/-104.999 params=1/-1/-1/1/0/0 float=y
  maxiter=1500 inside=0 logmap=105 periodicity=10
  colors=000A0KGOX<6>NVSOWRPXQ<2>S_OT`NVbO<20>DCHDBGCA\
  G<3>95F<13>WZYX`_Zb`<3>dje<2>tsivvkxylzzmwulrokqlkci\
  j`ciZVi<3>PDfN8eL4e<7>F3kE3kD3l<3>A3o13xA3oI3fQ3YX1O\
  <16>iKkjLlkMn<3>nQsoQw<6>mUgmVdmWb<3>lYUqNf<2>cs0<21\
  >j`Kj_Lj_M<2>kXPkWQm_S<3>eNKdKJbHH<3>W5AX67W7E<3>SEc\
  SGiRIi<10>QciQeiQgiQiiQki<3>QpiQqiSrj<3>WvjYwkZxk_yk\
  <7>hzljzmkzm<3>ozmhzYazIVz3<3>Dz59z5Az9<7>EzaEzdFzh<\
  3>GzvJzuMzt
  }

frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth
a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2),
g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j,
k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel):
z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c,
|z| < l
}

END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE==================================


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From: Guy Marson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) formula parser question
Date: 23 Mar 2000 11:15:20 +0100

At 16:29 23/03/00 +1200, you wrote:
>At 19:24 22/03/2000 -0700, you wrote:
>>
>>In article <[e-mail]>,
>>    Guy Marson <[e-mail]>  writes:
>>
>>> How can one use the functions  'IDENT'  and  'RECIP'  in a formula without
>>> using 'fn1' and 'fn2'?
>>
>>Ident is the identity, i.e. f(z) = z.  So there is nothing to do for a
>>formula that wants to use the identity.
>>
>>Recip is the reciprocal, i.e. f(z) = 1/z.

until now, it sounds good..


>>
>>I'm not sure if the parser recognizes 1/z and optimizes it as a call
>>to a special routine for the reciprocal.
>>
>I can't see it anywhere in the optimiser source but there is mention of it
>replacing x^(-1) with recip(x), as well as x^0=1, x^1=x and x^2=sqr(x).
>

but now ist getting complicated.. I try it anyway!!


>Morgan L. Owens
>"Faster! Faster!"
>
>
>

cheers,



Guy




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From: "Janet Dancisak" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Trig question
Date: 23 Mar 2000 08:32:17 -0600

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From: "Iain G. Stirling" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Trig question
Date: 23 Mar 2000 15:19:05 -0000

Janet Dancisak wrote:

Date sent:          Thu, 23 Mar 2000 08:32:17 -0600
Send reply to:      [e-mail]

> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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>
> I've been lurking on this list for a while. I'm just beginning in =
> fractals but really haven't had time to play with them. I do have a =
> question you math wiz people might be able to answer.
> I know my graphing calculator can't figure the sine when the range is =
> below -1 or above 1: can/how does the computer do it?=20
> One more quick question for the programmers out there: I know a little =
> C++....   is there an inverse sine function?
>
> Thank you very much.
>
> Janet
>

Janet,

Firstly, on your second question: The inverse sine function in C/C++
is the asin function. asin stands for "arc sine", another name for the
inverse sine. It is available in math.h.

Secondly, on your first question: The answer is - it can't. The sine
function only ever outputs a value between -1 and 1, regardless of
what angle you give as input. An implication of this is that the inverse
sine function can only accept inputs in the range -1 to 1.

Hope this helps,

Iain.


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From: "Janet Dancisak" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Trig question
Date: 23 Mar 2000 09:47:05 -0600

Thanks for your quick reply! I tried the asin function and you're right, out
of range inputs don't work. Can you do it with imaginary numbers? Input the
inverse sine of an imaginary number over 1 or below -1?

Thanks again!

Janet

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> Janet Dancisak wrote:
>
> From:           "Janet Dancisak" <[e-mail]>
> To:             <[e-mail]>
> Subject:        (fractint) Trig question
> Date sent:      Thu, 23 Mar 2000 08:32:17 -0600
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> > I've been lurking on this list for a while. I'm just beginning in =
> > fractals but really haven't had time to play with them. I do have a =
> > question you math wiz people might be able to answer.
> > I know my graphing calculator can't figure the sine when the range is =
> > below -1 or above 1: can/how does the computer do it?=20
> > One more quick question for the programmers out there: I know a little =
> > C++....   is there an inverse sine function?
> >
> > Thank you very much.
> >
> > Janet
> >
>
> Janet,
>
> Firstly, on your second question: The inverse sine function in C/C++
> is the asin function. asin stands for "arc sine", another name for the
> inverse sine. It is available in math.h.
>
> Secondly, on your first question: The answer is - it can't. The sine
> function only ever outputs a value between -1 and 1, regardless of
> what angle you give as input. An implication of this is that the inverse
> sine function can only accept inputs in the range -1 to 1.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Iain.
>
>
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From: Gregory McClure <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (fractint) Trig question
Date: 23 Mar 2000 07:53:39 -0800

Unless, of course, you take the argument of the sine function into the
complex realm, then any value is possible.  For example the sin of =
(pi/2 -
3i) is approx. 10.07.

There are formulas for determining the values of complex arguments for =
the
trigonometric, hyperbolic, and logarithmic functions that allow a =
computer
to calculate both real and imaginary sections separately.  C may even =
have a
standard package for this, I know they have a complex type.  I don't =
have a
sample for C, since most of my work is in Visual Basic, and the
multiprecision package I created with these formulas was written with =
VB in
mind, not VC.  If you need more details on the algorithms used, just =
mail me
at [e-mail].  I can then look up some info in my =
books
that have these algorithms in C and supply a better answer.

  The Kwisatz Haderach,
=DF  Gregory J. McClure


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=3D
> question you math wiz people might be able to answer.
> I know my graphing calculator can't figure the sine when the range is =
=3D
> below -1 or above 1: can/how does the computer do it?=3D20
> One more quick question for the programmers out there: I know a =
little =3D
> C++....   is there an inverse sine function?
>=20
> Thank you very much.
>=20
> Janet
>=20

Janet,

Firstly, on your second question: The inverse sine function in C/C++=20
is the asin function. asin stands for "arc sine", another name for the=20
inverse sine. It is available in math.h.

Secondly, on your first question: The answer is - it can't. The sine=20
function only ever outputs a value between -1 and 1, regardless of=20
what angle you give as input. An implication of this is that the =
inverse=20
sine function can only accept inputs in the range -1 to 1.

Hope this helps,

Iain.


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From: "Pedja" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) multiple copies of mail
Date: 22 Mar 2000 16:33:44 +0100


----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2000 7:54 AM


> Well well, someone from my neck of the woods, note the email address.
> I have seen occasional, intermittant duplicates. I did not believe it
> was my server because this seems to be happening on other lists also
> and to people who do not share my ISP. The thing that I have noted is
> the length of the duplicates is different. The difference seems to be
> in the headers, though I've been lazy about looking at more than line
> count. Feel free to email privately if you want to start comparing
> notes. Short of an illuminati style conspiracy, I've begun to wonder
> if there is a backbone issue somewhere>>.
Multiple copies started about few weeks ago,my ISP is in Yugoslavia,so it
must be list server related.It is weird,IMHO,that sometimes it's just  2-3
copies of the same message(no difference in headers,only in receive
time),and sometimes it's a copy of old message ,only with new subject line.
Is it time to get paranoid,or it's just Murphy's law in action?
Pedja.
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From: Janet Dancisak <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Trig question
Date: 23 Mar 2000 14:26:37 -0600

Cool! Thanks! I'm just getting into complex numbers in my C++ class, so I=
'll
probably be learning the algorithms for them.
I'm doing an Honor's project for Trig class on fractals....   I want to s=
tudy
the science behind the art....   but the teacher I ended up with has an, =
shall
we say "antiquated" notion of fractals. He did his in black and white... =
years
ago, and hasn't worked with them since.  He want's  me to come up with ju=
st one
or two equations to study. I see all the parameters go by on the list....=
   Is
there a really good one or two to start out studying? And now he tells me=
 they
don't HAVE to be trig functions! (It's a long sad story!) Any feed back o=
n where
to start would be appreciated!!

Janet

Gregory McClure wrote:

> Unless, of course, you take the argument of the sine function into the
> complex realm, then any value is possible.  For example the sin of (pi/=
2 -
> 3i) is approx. 10.07.
>
> There are formulas for determining the values of complex arguments for =
the
> trigonometric, hyperbolic, and logarithmic functions that allow a compu=
ter
> to calculate both real and imaginary sections separately.  C may even h=
ave a
> standard package for this, I know they have a complex type.  I don't ha=
ve a
> sample for C, since most of my work is in Visual Basic, and the
> multiprecision package I created with these formulas was written with V=
B in
> mind, not VC.  If you need more details on the algorithms used, just ma=
il me
> at [e-mail].  I can then look up some info in my boo=
ks
> that have these algorithms in C and supply a better answer.
>
>   The Kwisatz Haderach,
> =DF  Gregory J. McClure
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Iain G. Stirling [mailto:[e-mail]]
> Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2000 8:19 AM
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: Re: (fractint) Trig question
>
> Janet Dancisak wrote:
>
> From:                   "Janet Dancisak" <[e-mail]>
> To:                     <[e-mail]>
> Subject:                (fractint) Trig question
> Date sent:              Thu, 23 Mar 2000 08:32:17 -0600
> Send reply to:          [e-mail]
>
> > This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
> >
> > ------=3D_NextPart_000_000D_01BF94A2.4C71C340
> > Content-Type: text/plain;
> >       charset=3D"iso-8859-1"
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> >
> > I've been lurking on this list for a while. I'm just beginning in =3D
> > fractals but really haven't had time to play with them. I do have a =3D
> > question you math wiz people might be able to answer.
> > I know my graphing calculator can't figure the sine when the range is=
 =3D
> > below -1 or above 1: can/how does the computer do it?=3D20
> > One more quick question for the programmers out there: I know a littl=
e =3D
> > C++....   is there an inverse sine function?
> >
> > Thank you very much.
> >
> > Janet
> >
>
> Janet,
>
> Firstly, on your second question: The inverse sine function in C/C++
> is the asin function. asin stands for "arc sine", another name for the
> inverse sine. It is available in math.h.
>
> Secondly, on your first question: The answer is - it can't. The sine
> function only ever outputs a value between -1 and 1, regardless of
> what angle you give as input. An implication of this is that the invers=
e
> sine function can only accept inputs in the range -1 to 1.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Iain.
>
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From: "Morgan L. Owens" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (fractint) Trig question
Date: 24 Mar 2000 11:51:38 +1200

At 07:53 23/03/2000 -0800, Gregory McClure wrote:
>Unless, of course, you take the argument of the sine function into the
>complex realm, then any value is possible.  For example the sin of (pi/2 -
>3i) is approx. 10.07.
>
>There are formulas for determining the values of complex arguments for the
>trigonometric, hyperbolic, and logarithmic functions that allow a computer
>to calculate both real and imaginary sections separately.  C may even have a
>standard package for this, I know they have a complex type.
>
The Fractint documentation gives the formulas it uses for its calculation
of these functions with complex argument (online under "Fractals and the
PC", or page 176 of fractint.doc), expressing them as functions of real
variables.

To be precise, the transcendetal functions it details are:

exp, ln, sin, cos, tan, cot, sinh, cosh, tanh, coth, asin, acos, atan,
acot, asinh, acosh, atanh, acoth.

Note, for example, that cosh is a rotation of cos in the complex plane.

Given the use of these expressions in the Fractint code, I would say that a
complex maths library is a nonstandard beastie.

Morgan L. Owens
"cosxx - now that really _is_ nonstandard!"






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From: "Fernando Henrique Bresslau" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Fractlas tiles (backgrounds)
Date: 23 Mar 2000 22:08:12 -0300

Has any of you had success in designing tiles for backgrounds? I was lookind
either for sometihing with a minibrot or a nice spiral... Any clues? A good
example is the bitmap that comes with UF... (no, it┤s not off-topic.. it┤s
still fractint related...)

Thanks in advance,
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From: "David Jones" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractlas tiles (backgrounds)
Date: 23 Mar 2000 16:33:01 -1000

On 23 Mar 00 at 22:08, Fernando Henrique Bresslau wrote:

> Has any of you had success in designing tiles for
> backgrounds?

Take a look at the background for my small fractals page:

http://home.hawaii.rr.com/aliasjj/fractals.html

Another blast of bits from David
http://home.hawaii.rr.com/aliasjj/   http://www.hawastsoc.org/
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractlas tiles (backgrounds)
Date: 23 Mar 2000 21:51:47 EST

Fractiles are easy to make, using any picture editor like Paint Shop.=20
Just select an area you want to be your upper left quarter tile,
flip that horizontally around the right edge, and then flip the whole top
vertically around the lower edge to make the bottom half.=20
You can get many different tiles from one fractal image this way, and
it's much easier than trying to get Fractint to produce a tile directly. =20
The fun comes in selecting the upper left corner.
I hope this helps.
-Lee Fairbanks    =20


In a message dated 03/23/2000 5:11:27 PM Pacific Standard Time,=20
[e-mail] writes:

> Has any of you had success in designing tiles for backgrounds? I was looki=
nd
>  either for sometihing with a minibrot or a nice spiral... Any clues? A go=
od
>  example is the bitmap that comes with UF... (no, it=B4s not off-topic.. i=
t=B4s
>  still fractint related...)

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From: Jim Muth <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Fractal tiles for backgrounds
Date: 23 Mar 2000 23:33:55 -0500 (EST)


This formula will produce a wide variety of tiling effects.
The attached par file draws a sample with a midget.


fractiles          {;  p1=Mandelbrot set coordinates
  reset=2000 type=formula formulafile=jim.frm
  formulaname=Mosaic function=tan/tan/tan/tan
  center-mag=4.44089e-015/-3.16414e-015/0.1392427/1/-3\
  9.999 params=-1.76/0 float=y maxiter=95
  bailout=25 inside=0 logmap=yes symmetry=none
  periodicity=10 sound=off
  colors=000IVBEVBMZCUaDdA2<3>GU5AY5Ia9<3>kmNrpRysU<3>\
  ZihSflLdpEat8_wRkWiw5nmOscfdAV<3>lWSn`RpfRrkQspQ<3>d\
  RI`KGYEF<3>`U3`Y0Rb1Hg1<2>PK`RClWFk<3>lRkqUkuXky_k<3\
  >YcVRdQKeMDfI6gEAbBEY9HU7<3>_S4dS3iS2mS2<3>eZec_odch\
  <3>gpKgtEhw8hz2<3>uvMxvQmcRcLR8isNkSal1<3>ioJkpNmpSo\
  qWqq_<3>mbelZfkVgjShbOQVL7<3>LNRJNWHN`FNd<3>SZnVapM_\
  hDY`4XU<3>7HM8DK99I96H<3>58W48Z38b38e<2>vzhoC`<3>cME\
  `P8ZR3c0G<4>PKQ<2>GVV<3>WSO_RMcQLgPJkPIiYIheI<3>hISh\
  CUh7WVEG<2>1VK<3>EskHyqUWee2UZWgTxt<3>LQoVQrcQu<3>H9\
  y<3>_d4<3>OoTLr_IueFxkDzq<2>kKl<3>feZejVdoSctP<3>hkf\
  iijjgokeslcw<2>HSu<3>9bo7dn5gm3il<6>rKe
  }

frm:Mosaic {;  p1=Mandelbrot set coordinates
z=c=p1+.05*(fn1(fn2(real(pixel)))+\
flip(fn3(fn4(imag(pixel))))):
z=sqr(z)+c,
|z| <= 100
}



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From: Jim Muth <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) FOTD, 24-03-00 (A Stranger Fractal [8]) (c)
Date: 24 Mar 2000 00:20:14 -0500 (EST)


FOTD -- March 24, 2000  (Rating 8)

Fractal enthusiasts and visionaries:

Today's fractal rates an 8.  Actually, I was undecided on a 7 or
an 8, so I decided to give myself the benefit of the doubt by
rating the image an 8, which equals much-above-average on my
scale of fractal worth.

It's an unusually complex image to have come from the formula
(1/Z)-Z+C.  But the complexity of the image is not too
surprising, since nothing in the field of fractals is totally
unexpected.  Actually, the image is most unusual in that it has
24 spiral arms radiating from the obviously quadratic midget at
the center.  24 is not a power of 2.

Since it is one of the stranger midgets I have yet turned up, I
named the picture "A Stranger Fractal".  I gave the coloring
aspect a bit more effort than usual, spending all of 25 minutes
fine-tuning the colors.  The results of my efforts may be seen
in 18 minutes by running the attached parameter file, or even
sooner by going to the usenet group:

          <alt.binaries.pictures.fractals>

and downloading the JPEG file from there.  The image is also
available on Paul Lee's web site at:

          <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html>

The ever-present-but-not-always-notable fractal weather was
un-notable today, as a partly cloudy sky and temperature of 60F
(15.5C) made it as normal and average a day as possible.  The
cats must have approved of the non-event, since they spent
several hours outdoors on the porch.

I came upon an article in the news this afternoon telling that
physicist Freeman Dyson has received the Templeton Prize for
Progress in Religion.  In his acceptance speech, Mr. Dyson, an
Agnostic, called for science and religion to work to find a way
to reconcile their differences.  I agree 100 percent with his
feelings on this matter.

The article has my philosophical wheels once again in high gear,
so expect some interesting thoughts from me on the philofractal
list in a day or two.

Until next time, take care, and once a fractal, always a fractal.


Jim Muth
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START 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================

A_Stranger_Fractal { ; time=0:17:40.46 SF5 on a P200
                     ;  Version 2000 Patchlevel 9
  reset=2000 type=formula formulafile=critical.frm
  formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 function=ident passes=1
  center-mag=-0.618152963511252/-2.530318379843519/5.1\
  09333e+007/1/-137.5 params=1/-1/-1/1/0/-80 float=y
  maxiter=12000 inside=0 logmap=275 periodicity=10
  colors=000cGK<6>cMKcNKcOKcPKcQKcRK<3>_VNZWOYXP<3>T`T\
  RaUQbW<2>Le`KgbKjd<3>IfcHecHdc<2>FacF`cE_eEZfDYgCWhD\
  XiDXjDXmEXkEXkEYkEYm<2>FYmFYnGZp<3>HZxH_zH_zI_zI_zI_\
  zJazIWwIUwHUrHOmHOgGLjGIaFFUFCUGATF9FF9A<7>F6AF6AF5A\
  F5AF5A<3>F3DF3EF3D<2>F2B<3>dUPj`SiaVhcT<2>OVQ3SNHSPQ\
  U6VVQ<9>WfTWgTWhT<3>WlU<3>fohiollpposr<8>kYwkWwjTx<3\
  >iKy<3>Y_NVcDTg4Rh6Ph7<3>HqBFsCDsE<3>5vI3vJ2uK6oL9kM\
  CgNFdO<3>SWSVUTYSU<3>iKYqD`<5>SaSNeQJiPFmNAqM6uK0zI<\
  4>8wM9wNBvOCvOEuP<3>KxSLyTNzULzUOzURzFUz0<3>Oz8MzALz\
  B<5>PzVQzZQza<2>SzkTznUzp<18>Szw
  }

frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth
a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2),
g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j,
k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel):
z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c,
|z| < l
}

END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE==================================


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From: "Scott D. Boyd" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Xfractint menu questions
Date: 23 Mar 2000 22:43:25 -0600

This message is directed to all the Xfractint users out there.

I am working on cleaning up the user interface of Xfractint so that the prompts
are more appropriate to Linux/Unix users. (Such as changing the function-key
prompts to Shift-n prompts. I have a couple of questions for other people
running Xfractint with Linux (or other Unix-based OS's):

1.Can anyone use the `Delete' key for the Main Menu selection: "select video
mode   <del>". In my case, `Delete' doesn't work. I have to press the `Enter'
key only when this menu item is highlighted. (I know we can't select a video
mode, but still I have to press `Enter' to draw the fractal.) If the delete key
works for you, please also let me know what OS you are using. (Linux, HP-UX,
Solaris, *BSD, etc.) I just want to make sure that this isn't happening only to
me because of some hidden, arcane setting in some keyboard-map file.

2. While going thru one of the source files that deals with the main menu, I
realized that everything below "restart Fractint  <ins>" is missing, such as
color-cycling, pallette editing, make starfield, etc. Is this common to all
Xfractint installations? I can remove a certain condition in the source file,
re-compile, and the menu items will show up. Color-cycling still won't work,
(when I press the C key, I get a beep) but the others will.

Please email me with your results. I realize that there may not be many
Xfractint users subscribed to the fractint-development mailing list, so I'm
also posting this to the regular fractint users mailing list. If you are
reading this on *that* list, please respond directly to me, so as not to
clutter up the regular fractint list with answers to a development question.

Thanks,
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From: "Morgan L. Owens" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractlas tiles (backgrounds)
Date: 24 Mar 2000 19:20:37 +1200

At 22:08 23/03/2000 -0300, you wrote:
>Has any of you had success in designing tiles for backgrounds? I was=
 lookind
>either for sometihing with a minibrot or a nice spiral... Any clues? A good
>example is the bitmap that comes with UF... (no, it=B4s not off-topic..=
 it=B4s
>still fractint related...)
>
They're not minibrots or nice spirals, but I've got some novel tiles out of
the Ant type, with a small viewwindow; wrapping at the edges is the default
behaviour for these. Fiddle: types 1 and 2 both have potential.

Morgan L. Owens
"Or start with a minibrot or spiral then ctrl-A an ant over the top."



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From: Tom Conally <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractal tiles for backgrounds
Date: 24 Mar 2000 08:57:53 -0500

Hi all,
I was considering the question on tiling and looked into my paintshop pro
plugins and found a filter series called Filter Factory  and under letter U
was a filter called center square tiling. I tried it on some of my fractals
and was amazed at the results. It is a free download on websites dealing
with paintshop pro and photoshop. http://www.pluginhead.i-us.com/ffc_frame.htm
It is for photoshop but works fine on paintshop pro
If anyone needs help using it I will be glad to help.
Tom Conally

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From: winnetou may <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractlas tiles (backgrounds)
Date: 24 Mar 2000 10:49:43 -0800 (PST)

First of all, thank you for all your prompt replys.
I'm still at school (college), so sme things I could
test, others not. The mirror trick is a good idea,
I'll try that later, I'm sure I'll have great results
from that. The formula and the parameter weren't
tested yet, I'm curious about it. The filter for psp
is being hunted in the moment, and I'll try it as soon
as psp 6 is downloaded (if our nice winNt allws me
conventional user to install it).
My reason for wanting a nice tile is a site I'm
developing and is going to be mentioned in a small
student magazine. So, I'm doing a face lift, and I'm
telling you all when it's ready.
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From: "Fernando Henrique Bresslau" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractal tiles for backgrounds
Date: 24 Mar 2000 23:57:28 -0300

Jim, I just loved your image, now I┤m goin to have to explre that nice
formula.... thanks
Fernando


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From: Jim Muth <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) FOTD, 25-03-00 (A Fractal Circle [5]) (c)
Date: 25 Mar 2000 01:28:46 -0500 (EST)


FOTD -- March 25, 2000  (Rating 5)

Fractal enthusiasts and visionaries:

Today, for the fractal of the day, we have a circle -- a fractal
circle.  I realize that circles are not at all rare in fractals,
especially fractals of the Julia type, but the circle in today's
picture surrounds a fully-developed Mandelbrot midget, and the
circle is so perfect that I just had to make it the FOTD for
March 25.

The formula that created the circle is Z-(1/Z)+C.  Of all the
formulae in my vast collection, (and the number of formulae I
have filed away on half-forgotten disks is vast indeed), this
particular formula is the one that gets the most from the least.
Taken separately, each of the two parts does little of interest.
Z+C draws a series of concentric circles, while (1/Z)+C draws a
vertical string of beads, but combined, the two parts work
wonders.

Since 1/Z equals Z^(-1), this formula contains a negative
exponent, which means that the images it draws will be greatly
affected by the bailout radius.  In today's picture the bailout
has been raised to 10100, a value that has a strange effect on
the resulting fractal.

I may write a speed-optimized version of this particular
expression, and add it to my critical.frm file.  Then I could
have a Z-(1/Z) month.  But for now, we'll just have to make do
with the M-Mix4 generalized version.

The attached parameter file requires around 11 minutes to
render.  The JPEG format image file has already been rendered,
and has been posted to the Usenet binary group:

          <alt.binaries.pictures.fractals>

and to Paul Lee's web site at:

          <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html>

The image may be downloaded from either site for easy viewing.

The fractal weather today was near perfect for both man and
cats.  Bright sunshine and a temperature of 66F (19C) kept the
cats lounging on the porch all afternoon, and it kept me wishing
I had the time to enjoy it.

The fractosophy is cooking, philosophy fans.  But philosophy of
such a high caliber, (IMHO), cannot be hurried.  I'll have much
to say on the philofractal list perhaps as soon as tomorrow,
perhaps not for several days after that.  But however it goes, I
*will* have a new and improved fractal for tomorrow.  Until that
magic moment arrives, take care, keep waiting like a child on
the day before Christmas, and pardon the rhetoric.


Jim Muth
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START 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================

A_Fractal_Circle   { ; Time=0:11:14.32 SF5 on a P200
                     ;  Version 2000 Patchlevel 9
  reset=2000 type=formula formulafile=critical.frm
  formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 function=ident passes=1
  center-mag=-0.1756676821649493/-1.626528667054578/9.\
  385979e+007/1/7.499 params=1/1/-1/-1/0/10000 float=y
  maxiter=1500 inside=0 logmap=215 periodicity=10
  colors=000lbJi`Hf_Gc_E`YDYXCVXASV9PU8MU6JS4GQ3DQ1AP0\
  8N04N01M00K00K0AD1P8Ac1Js0Sz0_<2>z0cz3ez6fz9f<3>zKly\
  NnyQnxUpxXrv_svbtvet<2>epn`skXviQyhMzeGzcCzb8z`Ht_Qe\
  Y`QXiCXHeY0z_<3>1zP6zNAzKGzHKzGQzDVzA_z9ez6iz3nz1iz3\
  fy3bt3_r3Vl3Sh3Nc3K`3GX3DS3AP38N86MC3KG1KK0JN0HS0HX0\
  G`0Ee0Eh0CY4APD8EK66S40N96JCDEEKAJS6M_1Pf0Sn0Vp1Xp3Y\
  p4_p6`r<3>CfsDhsEisGksGls<2>KrtMstNtvPvvQxvSyvUzxVzx\
  XzxYzxYzx_zt`xrbtncpkekhehefcbh__iXXkSUkPSlKPnGMpDJr\
  9Gs4Ds1At08v04x01y00y00t01p04l08h0Ac0D`1GX6KS9NPCQKE\
  UGHXDK_9Nb4Sf1Vi<3>0fv0iy4hpQhhlh_zhSzkUzlVzpXzrYX40\
  V80<3>UH0UJ0UM0SP0SQ0SU0QX0QY0<3>Ph0Pk0Nl0Np0Ns0Mt0M\
  x0Mz0<3>Nz0Nz0Qz0<10>fz0hz0iz0<4>rz0sz0tz0vz0xz0yz0\
  <2>zz1zz4zz9<3>zzMzzQzzU<2>zzczzbzz`zz`zz9<3>zzM
  }

frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth
a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2),
g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j,
k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel):
z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c,
|z| < l
}

END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE==================================


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From: Tom Conally <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) FOTD, 25-03-00 (A Fractal Circle [5]) (c)
Date: 25 Mar 2000 11:44:51 -0500

Jim,
Your FOTD today looks like a camelia flower with a mandelbrot center! Very
nice!

At 01:28 AM 03/25/2000 -0500, you wrote:
>
>FOTD -- March 25, 2000  (Rating 5)
>
>Fractal enthusiasts and visionaries:
>
>Today, for the fractal of the day, we have a circle -- a fractal
>circle.  I realize that circles are not at all rare in fractals,
>esp

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Subject: (fractint) some recent pars ~
Date: 25 Mar 2000 23:24:46 EST

Hi All,

 Here's a few favorites of my recent fractaling.  If I've previously sent any
of these, please forgive me.  Haven't been keeping track here with the new
PC(13months) <G>   Enjoy~

 Jim Weaver
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

3rdCoast.gif       { ; image(c)2000 Jim Weaver
  reset=1960 type=mandel(fn||fn) function=log/flip passes=t
  center-mag=+1.60533291452199800/-1.33498883875210200/1.18619/1/45
  params=0/0/0.7541600000000001 float=y maxiter=255 inside=bof60
  decomp=256 periodicity=0
  colors=000700<11>`00c00d44<13>zzz<3>snNukDsh3qe0<2>kX0aU0<9>I00<8>000300\
  000003005<5>D0KF0MJ0P<3>Q0ZS0`U2cW4d<2>aGhcKieMkgOmiWokYpmbqoesqjusovupw\
  xvyzzzyvxwpuvosujqseoqbmpYkoWimOgkMeiKc<2>f8Yd4Wc2U`0S<4>R0IP0GN0GL0C<4>\
  B02900700500005<13>00c<15>zzz<15>EEcBBa88Z<2>00S<9>003000022<14>0cc<15>z\
  zz<15>0c0<14>030000200500
  }

Fins               { ; image(c)2000 JimWeaver
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=_i.frm formulaname=inandout13
  function=sinh/sqr passes=t
  center-mag=-0.626395/0.463283/3.369305/1/-12.498 params=1/0/0/0
  float=y inside=epsiloncross invert=0.1/-0.4/0 periodicity=0
  colors=0000c0<14>030000200<13>`00c00d44<13>zzz<3>snNukDsh3qe0<2>kX0aU0<9\
  >I00<8>000300000003005<5>D0KF0MJ0P<3>Q0ZS0`U2cW4d<2>aGhcKieMkgOmiWokYpmb\
  qoesqjusovupwxvyzzzyvxwpuvosujqseoqbmpYkoWimOgkMeiKc<2>f8Yd4Wc2U`0S<4>R0\
  IP0GN0GL0C<4>B02900700500005<13>00c<15>zzz<15>EEcBBa88Z<2>00S<9>00300002\
  2<14>0cc<15>zzz<14>4d4
  }

g303004.gif        { ; image(c)2000 JimWeaver
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm
  formulaname=g-3-03-m function=log/conj passes=b
  center-mag=0.990512/-1.19193/1.94364/1/87.5 params=0.11/0.03/0.4/0
  float=y inside=bof60 outside=real periodicity=0
  colors=000nP0<3>jB0i70f70<14>000<15>S5N<15>zz0<14>ZZ8XX8VW8TU8RS8<2>LM6J\
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From: Jim Muth <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) FOTD, 26-03-00 (End of the Tunnel [5]) (c)
Date: 26 Mar 2000 01:20:02 -0500 (EST)


FOTD -- March 26, 2000  (Rating 5)

Fractal enthusiasts and visionaries:

Today's fractal is titled "End of the Tunnel", which originally
was short for "Light at the End of the Tunnel".  But when I
realized that the end of the tunnel in this image is total
darkness, I dropped the 'light' part of the name.  It would not
have fit in the allotted space anyway.

The midget in the scene is a midget of one of the lowest orders
of all time -- 1.09.  The complete formula is
(Z^1.09)*(C^0.7)+C.  Yes, I realize that the Z^1.09 Mandeloid
has no midgets, so where then does the midget in today's image
come from?

Actually, it is the midget on the negative tail of the Z^1.09
Mandeloid.  Yes, I also realize that the Z^1.09 Mandeloid has no
negative tail.  This is where the JimsCompMand formula comes in
handy.

This formula is a simple generalization of the cmplxmarksmand
formula, which splits the M-set along its negative axis.  When
applied to the Z^1.09 figure, the JimsCompMand formula splits
the negative X-axis, bringing the previously buried midget on
the negative tail out from its imaginary hiding place.

But the process is not quite as simple as it first appears.  By
the time the exponent has been reduced to 1.09, the midget has
shrunk to the point of invisibility, making it necessary to
track the midget as the exponent is gradually reduced.  The
final result is today's picture.

I could have tracked the midget much farther down, but below the
1.09 exponent of today's picture, the midget degenerates into a
lopsided oval, while the surrounding features become so finely
divided that they form little more than a sandy background.

Today's midget has some interesting textures along its border.
I'll be investigating this area tomorrow, and if I find anything
of interest, it will appear as the FOTD.

Requiring 15 minutes to render on a modest Pentium, the para-
meter file is a bit on the slow side.  Instant relief can be
found by going to:

          <alt.binaries.pictures.fractals>

where the finished image has been posted.  The image is also
available at:

          <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html>

The fractal weather, for anyone who actually cares about the
local weather, was partly cloudy and quite warm today.  It was
unusually muggy, with an evening thunder-shower.  The cats must
have approved of the 68F (20C) temperature, because they passed
the middle of the day lounging in their chairs on the porch.

There is no fractal philosophy today -- it's not finished
cooking yet.  But the odds are 40 percent that I'll have it
ready by tomorrow, (80 percent by the next day).  Until next
time, take care, and keep your fractals up.


Jim Muth
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}

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From: neko <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) ftod v4?
Date: 26 Mar 2000 16:16:48 +0900

well, it's been just about a year since the last archive of jim muth's fotd
was done. is anyone working on an archive of this years .pars? if no one
else is i might do it if les st. claire's willing to have it there with the
rest of them, but i'm going on vacation to the states starting april first
(which means a 36-hour april fools day for me, whee), and won't get back
til the 25th or so, so it might be a while. how where the last three
compiled?

 -- neko *meow*

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  things you didn't have a good answer to." -- douglas adams



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From: Jim Muth <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) FOTD, 27-03-00 (Color-Blind [6]) (c)
Date: 27 Mar 2000 01:20:50 -0500 (EST)


FOTD -- March 27, 2000  (Rating 6)

Fractal enthusiasts and visionaries:

Standing alone, the expression 1/Z+C or Z^(-1)+C is another of
those unlikely ones, which would never be expected to draw
anything of interest.  But when it is bracketed such as,
Z^(-0.9)-Z^(-1.1), and the difference multiplied by a factor of
12 before adding C, some unusual things happen.  Today's
striking fractal illustrates one of these unusual things.

It is probably the most effective midget I have yet discovered
in the fractal land of negative exponents.  True, the typical
bits and pieces are there, but they are arranged into a quite
effective pattern surrounding the central midget, which is
emphasized by the somewhat gaudy color palette.

I named the picture "Color Blind" when I noticed that it
resembles those multi-colored dot-filled pictures with numbers
hidden in the colors that are used to test for color-blindness.
Actually, the term color-blindness is a misnomer, for color-
blind people do not live in a world of black and white, but
rather they perceive colors differently from those with
so-called normal color vision.  (Normal color perception is
considered normal mainly because that type of perception happens
to prevail in the greatest percentage of individuals.)

The parameter file takes all of 23 minutes to render on a P200.
A download of the image takes all of a minute or two.  That
download may be found on Usenet at:

          <alt.binaries.pictures.fractals>

and on the W.W.W. at:

          <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html>

The fractal weather was ideal for cats and humans today, the
sunny skies and temperature of 64F (18C) being near (dare I say
it) purrfect.

The fractal hunting also went pretty well.  The philosophy
however did not fare so well, as I failed to find either the
time or the enthusiasm.  However, the chance is still 40 percent
that I'll philosophize tomorrow, and 80 percent that I'll do it
the next day.

And of course the chance is 99.995 percent that I'll be here
again tomorrow with another fractal midget surrounded by
decorations of the most extraordinary kind.  Until then, take
care, and think fractal thoughts.


Jim Muth
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From: Jim Muth <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) FOTD, 28-03-00 (Globules with Auras [4]) (c)
Date: 28 Mar 2000 00:45:04 -0500 (EST)


FOTD -- March 28, 2000  (Rating 4)

Fractal enthusiasts and visionaries:

Today's image is another picture of a ghost scene -- one of
those images that isn't really there, but can be made manifest
by the application of bof60 inside fill.  This fill colors the
inside, (and that's all there is in today's image), according to
how close in their travels the points come to the origin.  (Or
maybe it's which iteration comes closest to the origin.  I can
never keep these two inside options straight.)

Regardless, the picture is moderately interesting -- interesting
enough to earn a somewhat conservative rating of 4, which equals
a little below average on my 0-10 scale of fractal worth.  I
have named the picture "Globules with Auras" -- a name that
describes the scene with reasonable accuracy.

I'll not offer an opinion of whether the traditional auras
actually exist around living objects.  Skeptics are convinced
that auras do not exist, since science has not been able to
observe them.  Those who can see auras do not trouble themselves
with the inability of science to observe the mystic glows.
These people know that auras do exist.  Unfortunately, they
cannot convince the scientists that the auras they see are real.

Auras might not be real, but today's image most certainly is
real, and it has been posted in JPEG format to:

          <alt.binaries.pictures.fractals>

and to:

          <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html>

from where it may be downloaded in 1/20 the time it would take
to run the attached parameter file.

The fractal weather was sunny in the morning and cloudy all
afternoon.  A steady rain set in at 4pm, which is still falling.
The temperature of 64F (18C) was acceptable to the cats, though
they would have preferred something quite a bit warmer.

The fractosophy is still cooking.  It might be ready tomorrow or
it might not.  The only way to know for sure will be to check
back then and see what happens.

Until next time, take care, and good luck with your fractals.


Jim Muth
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From: Jim Muth <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) FOTD, 29-03-00 (Fractal Tuesday [5]) (c)
Date: 29 Mar 2000 00:54:04 -0500 (EST)


FOTD -- March 29, 2000  (Rating 5)

Fractal enthusiasts and visionaries:

It was a very busy day, which is still not quite wrapped up, so
I'll have to be brief.

I named today's fractal marvel "Fractal Tuesday".  I gave it
this undistinguished name because it is a fractal and I found it
on a Tuesday.  The image is another of those unexpected things
that appears when two powers of Z in the vicinity of 1/Z are
combined.

The picture earns a notably average rating of 5 on my 0-to-10
scale of fractal worthiness.  The parameter file takes a very
average 16 minutes to run, and the average image file has been
posted as usual to:

          <alt.binaries.pictures.fractals>

and to:

          <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html>

The weather was cool and unsettled today, with a temperature of
58F (14.5C) and squally showers.  This mixture kept the cats
indoors.  The philosophy got nowhere, but I'll try again
tomorrow to surprise and delight.  Until then, take care, and
don't get caught in a fractal squall.


Jim Muth
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From: "James R. McKenzie" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Attn Les St Clair
Date: 29 Mar 2000 14:28:16 -0500

Have you updated your par listings lately?
                             T H A N K   Y O U


                             James R. McKenzie


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From: Jim Muth <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) FOTD, 30-03-00 (Fractal Wednesday [7]) (c)
Date: 29 Mar 2000 23:47:33 -0500 (EST)


FOTD -- March 30, 2000  (Rating 7)

Fractal enthusiasts and visionaries:

Another very busy day brings another fractal named after the day
of the week on which I found the image.  Since I am writing this
on a Wednesday evening, and I found the image about 4 hours ago,
I have named the picture "Fractal Wednesday".

The iterated formula is 1/Z-Z+C -- a simple expression that
exceeds itself in the variety of images it produces.  The image
has been colored so that it resembles a neon-illuminated
billboard, and then posted to:

          <alt.binaries.pictures.fractals>

and to:

          <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html>

The day's weather was mostly sunny with a temperature of 57F
(14C), which was good enough for the fractal cats to venture out
of doors.

The philosophy continued cooking in the average weather, but
unfortunately it is still only cooking.  Nothing concrete has
yet emerged from my latest round of pondering.  I'll have a lot
better luck with my philosophy when I get a chance to relax and
let my thoughts drift with the flow.  This could happen as soon
as tomorrow, when I'll return with another great single-layer
fractal.

Until then, take care, and beware of counterfeit fractals.


Jim Muth
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From: "Paul N. Lee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) ftod v4?
Date: 30 Mar 2000 00:58:07 -0600

neko wrote:
>
> well, it's been just about a year since the
> last archive of jim muth's fotd was done.
> is anyone working on an archive of this years
> .pars?  if no one else is i might do it if
> les st. claire's willing to have it there with
> the rest of them, ......

If you need all of them, then I can send you whatever you need.  I have
just about every email posted to this discussion list (and to the other
lists as well).

Sincerely,
P.N.L.
http://www.fractalus.com/cgi-bin/theway?ring=fractals&id=43&go

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From: neko <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) ftod v4?
Date: 30 Mar 2000 20:07:27 -0500

uh, you, er, i think, wrote this:

> If you need all of them, then I can send you whatever you need.  I have
> just about every email posted to this discussion list (and to the other
> lists as well).

well it's not a matter of not being able to get them (yet; i don't know how
long jim will keep them on the server), it's just a matter of someone making a
compilation. i'm currently going through the first two years with partobat, for
instance.

 -- -- neko *meow*
    "capital letters were always the best way of dealing with
     things you didn't have a good answer to." -- douglas adams

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From: Jim Muth <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) FOTD, 31-03-00 (Fractal Thursday [5]) (c)
Date: 31 Mar 2000 00:07:07 -0500 (EST)


FOTD -- March 31, 2000  (Rating 5)

Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts:

I lied again.  Yes, I told an untruth yesterday when I said that
I would have more time today to devote to my FOTD discussion.
My excuse is that things stayed busy, and enjoying money as I
do, I devoted most of my time to work that, in contrast to
finding fractals, is not much fun but pays well.

Being short of time, I devoted the little time I did have to
scrounging up an acceptable single-layer fractal, which I named
"Fractal Thursday" because I found it on a Thursday and had no
chance to meditate to find a better name.

Following an intuitive hunch, I entered the rather ridiculous
parameters into the M-Mix4 formula and let it rip.  The formula
subtracts 1000 parts of Z^0.001 from Z.  The result was today's
picture, a scene featuring the obligatory quadratic midget
surrounded by decoration that vaguely resembles a forest on
another world.

The near 10-minute render time is a bit too slow for all but the
most patient fractalists.  This slowness makes a trip to:

          <alt.binaries.pictures.fractals>

or to:

          <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html>

to pick up the pre-rendered image, far more efficient.

The weather today was typical for this part of the world at this
time of year -- partly cloudy skies and a temperature of 62F
(16.5C).  These conditions must have been ideal for the cats,
since they spent nearly the entire day on the porch.

Once again the philosophy failed to materialize, once again
disappointing the philosophy-starved masses.  If the work slacks
off tomorrow, I'll philosophize then; if not, I'll philosophize
later.

But regardless, I'll have a great fractal ready.  Check in then
to see the awe-inspiring scene that will be revealed.  And until
then, take care, and don't let fractals go to your head.


Jim Muth
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From: Jim Muth <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) FOTD, 01-04-00 (Fractal Friday [7]) (c)
Date: 01 Apr 2000 00:29:35 -0500 (EST)


FOTD -- April 01, 2000  (Rating 7)

Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts:

Another busy day brings another hasty discussion, which will sorely
disappoint those waiting with bated breath for the secrets of the
universe to be revealed.  But luckily for fractal fans the haste does
not show in the quality of the fractal, which rates a 7 on my scale of
fractal worth.

The unlikely formula this time is 36(Z^100)-72(Z^0.01)+C -- another
expression that at first glance appears unlikely to draw anything more
than a boring circle, but is full of surprises when Z is initialized
to a critical point.

Unable to find a proper name for today's picture, I once again named
it after the day of the week on which I found the scene.  In this case
I named the picture "Fractal Friday".

At a run time of 17 minutes, the parameter file is somewhat slow,
making a download the wiser choice.  The image may be found waiting to
be downloaded at:

          <alt.binaries.pictures.fractals>

and at

          <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html>

The fractal weather today was near perfect.  Not a cloud was seen, and
the temperature of 59F (15C) was perfect.

Not so perfect was my failure to philosophize.  As has been the case
most of this week, my excuse is that I was too busy.  That excuse will
be worn out by tomorrow however, when I should have some interesting
words of wisdom.  Check then to see what happens.

Until next time, take care, and if everyone agreed on everything, we
would have no need for philosophy.


Jim Muth
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