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Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 12:49:41 -0800
From: "Brian Linds" <woodlind@island.net>
Subject: (exotica) Gold! Silver! Eggplant!
Hi all. i know a lot of us are burning Cds here and I just had wee little
talk with a guy in one of the huge electronic chains. I usually don't take
too much stock in what they say, but my paranoid little CDr burning mind got
a bit twisted when this guy proceeded to tell me about my burns wearing out.
And that I should be only buying expensive Gold CDrs that will last 15 years
instead of 2 or 3 with the other colors. It's still early in this new phase
of recording to test old versus new.
What's anyone know about this????
Brian Linds
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Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2000 12:59:56 -0800
From: "F. Cobalt" <fcobalt@lycos.com>
Subject: (exotica) Bollywood voices and locations
One of my favorite Bollywood singers is Lata Mangeskar, who is around 70 years old. You'll find that most of the time, when actors and actresses sing in Indian films, their lip-synch to songs by the select few vocalists. Lata is known to perform for like 5 or 6 hours straight in concerts, which is pretty amazing considering her age. She's been singing for films since the early 40s. Of course everything about Bollywood films are amazing, singing aside.
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Ya I would like some info on this too. And I don't see anything on the CD burning FAQ. http://www.fadden.com/cdrfaq/
My opinion is that these guys don't know what they are saying. I had one sales guy say something like 5 years for green, 10 for blue and 100 for gold...and I asked him what about the yellow ones? And he said "yellow? they make yellow?". I think they just want to you to buy the expensive gold ones.
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woodlind@island.net wrote:
>
> Hi all. i know a lot of us are burning Cds here and I just had
> wee little
> talk with a guy in one of the huge electronic chains. I usually
> don't take
> too much stock in what they say, but my paranoid little CDr
> burning mind got
> a bit twisted when this guy proceeded to tell me about my burns
> wearing out.
> And that I should be only buying expensive Gold CDrs that will
> last 15 years
> instead of 2 or 3 with the other colors. It's still early in this
> new phase
> of recording to test old versus new.
> What's anyone know about this????
> Brian Linds
>
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Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2000 16:05:02 -0500
From: nytab@pipeline.com
Subject: Re: (exotica) Bollywood voices and locations
Mo wrote:
> The other night I heard an unbelievable story about those high female
voices in Indian music, that everyone knows who ever saw a Bollywood
film: Apparently there are only a very few women who can sing like that,
just 3 or 4 of them, some of them very old already, and they seem to
sing on ALL such songs.
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Pretty much true!
And the coolest part is that 2 of the most important filmi singers were sisters - here, go to the bottom of this page:
http://allmusic.com/cg/x.dll?p=amg&sql=K229||9
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>The other story I heard today is, that the idyllic surroundings of the
Swiss Alps has become a favorite filming location for Bollywood films in
the last couple of years and in fact: Digging in my collection I found 3
such scenes right away, that were obviously filmed there. Now that's
globalization!
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One of the biggest audiences for Bollywood filmi was the old Soviet Union. Given the relationship between India and the USSR, most of the international popular films imported into the USSR came from India - they certainly couldn't come from the West! Even now, you can go to the Russian areas of Brooklyn and find lots of Indian videos. The Russians can go on about filmi actors/actresses/plots and sing the songs as well as anyone from Bombay. That's cold war globalization!
lousmith@pipeline.com
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Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2000 17:01:35 -0500
From: alan zweig <azed@pathcom.com>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Gold! Silver! Eggplant!
At 01:05 PM 11/2/00 -0800, Domenic Ciccone wrote:
>
>My opinion is that these guys don't know what they are saying. I had one
sales guy say something like 5 years for green, 10 for blue and 100 for
gold...
Oh man.
If a laser reads digital information and nothing actually touches anything,
how can anything wear out? Does it have a self-destruct chip encoded in
it? "It kills itself before it's five"? It's hard to believe that the
record companies have been pressing the best quality CD's available and I
haven't heard any reports of them wearing out so why should it be so for
these ones which are probably more expensive than those?
Go ahead. Burst my bubble.
AZ
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Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2000 17:21:16 -0500
From: cheryl <cheryls@dsuper.net>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Frames for your records.
I belive Restoration Hardware carries these (or used to) - is there one
in the Michigan area - there may even be one opening in Toronto, if I'm
not mistaken.
cheryl
jane.murray@maclaren.com wrote:
>
> Does anyone in the Ontario or Michigan area know where I can pick up picture
> frames that are designed to slip your records into so you can hang your
> favourites on the wall without damaging them? I have heard of such mysterious,
> wonderful items but have yet to find any in my local purveyors of picture
> framery.
>
>
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Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2000 17:27:49 -0500
From: cheryl <cheryls@dsuper.net>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Gold! Silver! Eggplant!
Personally, I thought the only difference was that the blue ones didn't
play on my older CD player, and the gold ones did, due to their
reflectivity. Which has since been misproven - not that I've had
problems with gold ones, but I have had blue and green ones that play
just fine - I think it's the software used to make the copies that's
making the difference.
I don't know why the colour should make a difference to the life of a CD
- - although I'm far from a technical expert on these things...
cheryl
> My opinion is that these guys don't know what they are saying. I had one sales guy say something like 5 years for green, 10 for blue and 100 for gold...and I asked him what about the yellow ones? And he said "yellow? they make yellow?". I think they just want to you to buy the expensive gold ones.
>
> woodlind@island.net wrote:
> >
> > Hi all. i know a lot of us are burning Cds here and I just had
> > wee little
> > talk with a guy in one of the huge electronic chains. I usually
> > don't take
> > too much stock in what they say, but my paranoid little CDr
> > burning mind got
> > a bit twisted when this guy proceeded to tell me about my burns
> > wearing out.
> > And that I should be only buying expensive Gold CDrs that will
> > last 15 years
> > instead of 2 or 3 with the other colors. It's still early in this
> > new phase
> > of recording to test old versus new.
> > What's anyone know about this????
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Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 17:56:45 EST
From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com
Subject: Re: (exotica) Gold! Silver! Eggplant!
In a message dated 11/2/0 3:52:39 PM, woodlind@island.net wrote:
>my paranoid little CDr burning mind got
>a bit twisted when this guy proceeded to tell me about my burns wearing out.
Didn't the vinyl knuckleheads (sic) used to say that about CD's themselves??
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Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 18:22:20 -0500
From: "Br. Cleve" <bcleve@pop.tiac.net>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Gold! Silver! Eggplant!
At 5:56 PM -0500 11/2/00, DJJimmyBee@aol.com wrote:
>>my paranoid little CDr burning mind got
>>a bit twisted when this guy proceeded to tell me about my burns wearing out.
>
>Didn't the vinyl knuckleheads (sic) used to say that about CD's themselves??
yes, indeed they did....and I hear their paranoia is fast becoming reality,
some 15 years since the invention of the CD (just like they predicted). If
the plastic casing gets a hole or crack in it -- goodbye data! Reports of
blank CD's seems to be surfacing these days.
br cleve, ex-knucklehead
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Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 19:11:30 -0500
From: "The Workmans" <theworkmans@mics.net>
Subject: (exotica) Not new but...
I have not read the WIRE article, but I am a fairly new reader of the list,
subscribing about a month ago. My knowledge of exotica pales in comparison
to you all, but I enjoy reading and learning. A brief list of some of my
favorites to spark discussion (or bashing!!) include: Enoch Light and the
Command Releases, Esquivel, Denny, Baxter, Herb Alpert, Sergio Mendes, Dean
Martin, Ray Conniff, Don Ho, ..... etc.! Keep up the good work(!?) and I
will continue to read, learn, listen and search for all that
is...EXOTICA!!!!!! (and the crowd goes wild...) J (yes, just the letter)
Workman
theworkmans@mics.net
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Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 19:18:43 -0500
From: "The Workmans" <theworkmans@mics.net>
Subject: (exotica) I need to listen
After a full day of enduring modern rock/pop and/or new country, I find it
necessary to retreat back into the world of 1950s/1960s music such as Miles
Davis, the Rat Pack, Herb Alpert,...oh, sorry, uh, Lani Hall is singing, and
my martini is ready, shaken-not stirred...Gotta run. JW
theworkmans@mics.net
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Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 01:30:37 +0100
From: Moritz R <moritz@derplan.com>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Sony SACD
alan zweig schrieb:
> They mean that I can't make digital copies from one machine
> to the other. They mean that if I'm using two machines with digital ins
> and outs, these CDR's won't copy.
The way they "explain" it in their catalog it's more like: The copies won't
play in those new players. I hate Sony. Not only do they try to rip you off
beyond the edge of criminal behaviour (see my homepage/library/complain!), but
they always try to impose all kinds of new formats and media, just to sell new
equipment. Memory stick! There were times in a far away past, when societies
still understood the advantages of standards and norms. Remember SAE (DIN)?
Saved society billions and billions of money.
So, I guess I should buy two or three old-time CD players, just on stock, to be
prepared when they sweap the markets with their, no copy-local code-online
registration-pay per minute-new super rip off-CD-players.
Mo
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Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 01:31:21 +0100
From: Moritz R <moritz@derplan.com>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Wanderlay for dummies
Johan Dada Vis schrieb:
> maybe the name changed over time from something like
> Vanderley, as Marco suggested, to Wanderlay.
Van der Ley was the original name of Wanderley. That does sound Dutch, have
you searched for that name too?
> maybe it's a German name?
Then it would be Von der Lei or something... at some time in grey past there
wasn't even much difference between Dutch and German. Dutch = Deutsch, hee
hee, you can't escape it.
Mo
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Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 01:45:16 +0100
From: Moritz R <moritz@derplan.com>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Bollywood voices and locations
nytab@pipeline.com schrieb:
>
> One of the biggest audiences for Bollywood filmi was the old Soviet Union.
Exactly, that's were "my source" is from. (extremely sexy source, btw) She said that all Indian films follow three basic story lines: 1st: Parents get seperated from their baby son somehow; years later a beautiful young man comes into the house and it's their son! 2nd: a woman between two men: she loves the yong beautiful poor one, but has to marry the rich old fart, 3rd: forgot...
Mo
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Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 00:49:58 +0000
From: Michael Jemmeson <michael@moreover.com>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: GODSPEED! YOU BLACK EMPEROR
Johan Dada Vis wrote:
>
> Arjan (and others): is GODSPEED! YOU BLACK EMPEROR all instromental?
>
All the GYBE! stuff is instrumental, with long sections of taped
conservations and spoken word. One of the movements on the 'A Silver
Mount Zion' project has singing though. That album is as good as 'Slow
Riot...' IMO, and feels a little like the Rachel's albums, mainly I
guess because of the piano/viola/cello lineup.
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Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2000 20:04:17 -0500
From: "m.ace" <mace@ookworld.com>
Subject: (exotica) vinylvideo
I'm not sure what to make of this one, but it's intriguing:
http://www.vinylvideo.com/
"With VinylVideo, you can now transform your old record player and your TV
set into a brand-new home movie medium - quickly, conveniently, and without
complicated instruction manuals. With the revolutionary VinylVideo Picture
Disks, for which numerous top-name artists have already produced exclusive
works, you can now design your own TV viewing program featuring picture
quality that is truly extraordinary."
m.ace mace@ookworld.com
http://ookworld.com
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Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 02:18:28 +0100
From: Moritz R <moritz@derplan.com>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Not new but...
The Workmans schrieb:
> and I will continue to read, learn, listen and search for all that
> is...EXOTICA!!!!!!
and one day "know-it-all" like the rest of us retro freaks. Isn't that a
most promising perspective? Welcome to this borderline group, where "the
very few" are the vast majority!
> After a full day of enduring modern rock/pop and/or new country
For Tiki's sake! You seem to live in prison or work in a record shop.
Turn on, tune in, drop out!
Mo
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Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 02:19:04 +0100
From: Moritz R <moritz@derplan.com>
Subject: Re: (exotica) vinylvideo
"m.ace" schrieb:
> I'm not sure what to make of this one, but it's intriguing:
> http://www.vinylvideo.com/
>
this is a very funny homepage of the likes of "Bonk Business". Listen
to the
sound files and you know what to make of it! "Brrrrrb!"
Mo
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