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exotica-digest        Thursday, October 5 2000        Volume 02 : Number 813



In This Digest:

RE: (exotica) Ventures Twilight Zone Goes Disco
Re: (exotica) The First Disco Record/discotheque
Re: (exotica) The First Disco Record/discotheque
Re:  (exotica) The First Disco Record
(exotica) Re: Music I Hate
(exotica) Re:Percy Faith
(exotica) Re:  discotheque culture
(exotica) "Love American Style" Soundtrack?
(exotica) disco may suck but this doesn't (tindersticks)
Re: (exotica) Re: Music I Hate
Re: (exotica) Re:cheesy versus easy
Re: (exotica) Re:  discotheque culture
Re: (exotica) disco may suck but this doesn't (tindersticks)
Re: (exotica) discotheque culture
(exotica) Legend of the Jivaro
Re: (exotica) (tindersticks)
Re: (exotica) Legend of the Jivaro
Re: (exotica) "Love American Style" Soundtrack?
Re: (exotica) Re: Music I Hate
(exotica) RE: Eno/Evil
Re: (exotica) RE: Eno/Evil
(exotica) Tindersticks
(exotica) disko and music i hate
(exotica) Eno-Point and Bryars:"Sinking of the Titanic".
Re: (exotica) RE: Eno/Evil
(exotica) VH1 ranks top dance songs
Re:  (exotica) VH1 ranks top dance songs
Re: (exotica) "Love American Style" Soundtrack?
Re: (exotica) "Love American Style" Soundtrack?
Re: (exotica) "Love American Style" Soundtrack?
(exotica) Rod Lauren
(exotica) fickle fickle
(exotica) disco themes
Re: (exotica) fickle fickle
Re(exotica) Tom Jones greatest records

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Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 15:56:16 -0700
From: "Benito Vergara" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Ventures Twilight Zone Goes Disco

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [e-mail]
> [mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of Eric Taub
> Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 9:33 AM

> Didn't Manhattan Transfer do a "disco" version of Twighlight Zone
> too?  For some reason I keep hearing Twighlight Tone, tho.

Yeah -- it's on the 1979 album "Extensions." I think the title is "Twilight
Zone / Twilight Tone." Not particularly great (and that's already within the
context of the Transfer's spotty sub-LHR output), but hey, I can't imagine
there being very many examples of "disco vocalese." In any case, that song
is the low point on that particular album; Jerry Garcia's version is way
better. =)

Later,
Ben

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Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 19:03:57 -0400
From: alan  zweig <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) The First Disco Record/discotheque

At 12:43 PM 10/4/00 -0700, chuck wrote:
>
>
>Also I saw an lp for sale at jackdiamond.com called "Discotheque"
>which Jack said is the sounds of 60s discotheques.

There must be a million pre-disco records which are called "Discotheque"
including at least three by Enoch Light, which are among his best stuff
except for the fact that the tunes come in on top of each other thus making
it next to impossible to extract them for your tapes and CDR's.
According to the Enoch liner notes, one of the essential qualities of
"discotheque music" is that it's continuous.  It never lets up.
That certainly applies to disco.
The other thing I love in the liner notes is their contention that in
France, the DJ at the discotheque was referred to as a "disquaire".
That may be true for all I know but I always wonder why they feel the need
to tell us about this.
According to them, a disquaire is "a disc jockey with a specialized
knowledge and an ability to evaluate attitudes on the dance floor".
JimmyB, are you a disquaire?





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Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 21:16:07 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) The First Disco Record/discotheque

<< except for the fact that the tunes come in on top of each other thus making
 it next to impossible to extract them for your tapes and CDR's. >>

Unless you use your computer for making your CD-Rs, then it is a basic
operation.  That's why I always recommend the PC method over the stand alone,
stereo component type CD Recorders.

The way to do it is easy.  Record your track and open up the saved WAV file
in your sound editor, Sound Forge, Cool Edit, whatever.  You'll be able to
see where that next track that you don't want starts.   The desired track
funnels down and POW, the next track kicks in.

Zoom in as close as you wish for a surgical removal of the unwanted track -
you can trim it to a thousandth of a second.  That's how precise you can get.
 Fade out the fade and insert a 3 second silence and you've got your isolated
track.

You can cut, paste, copy crossfade, mix, experiment with different effects,
not to mention access the noise reduction tools that can be very effective if
not overdone.  It's the only way to go!








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Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 21:32:58 -0400
From: Bump <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re:  (exotica) The First Disco Record

you can ring my beeeeeeeeeeellllllll!
i think it might be that Honey Bee song that was dubbed the first "disco" tune,
but i am still not sure

do the bump


>Pulling titles from the "Rock & Soul Songs Annual" article... do any of
>these ring a bell?
>
>Honey Bee
>Never Can Say Goodbye
>Reach Out, I'll Be There

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Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 21:40:10 -0400
From: Brian Karasick <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Music I Hate

Alan had to bring this one up and I have to say all three categories he
mentioned are
up there on my list of dislikes.  But its an interesting topic since many
of us, myself included,  now listen to things we would never in our wildest
dreams have ever considered, let alone actually enjoyed!  Lets just say if
I had to answer this question three years ago the response would have been
totally different.

What seems frightening is that as I begin to listen more and more to music
my parents listened to, I notice that their tastes have somehow evolved
into something that could make your skin crawl: An example... the tape
sitting in the car during our last visit home: The Boston Pops - Saturday
Night Fever Medley! What else.. well  I run into a bit too much Celine
Dion, Barbara Streisand and Kenny Rogers, among other unmentionables. Seems
amusing to have to go after ones parents,  berating them on how their
musical tastes seem to have degenerated with age.  Usually you'd expect it
the other way around no?

So what do I hate.. even to this day.  First and foremost are Broadway
Musicals (including Barney -  which is IMHO, Broadway styled entertainment
for kids).  Then there's Barbara Streisand and Celine Dion but there's a
lot of Broadway overlap so no surprises there.  Most of the rest I can
simply ignore except maybe Canadian Music awards shows which are nothing
short of embarrasing!


Brian



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Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 23:03:48 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Re:Percy Faith

In a message dated 10/4/0 11:00:49 PM, you wrote:

<<Percy Faith especially made a whole range of music, some of which is quite
great, I think.
>>

I agree.  From "Theme from A Summer Place" to his cover of "Super Fly" he
covered a lot of bases and did it quite well. To be fair, there's a lot of
filler but if the tunes are good he makes them work.



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Date: Wed, 4 Oct 00 23:26:05 -0400
From: "Michael D. Toth" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re:  discotheque culture

[e-mail] wrote:

>Also I think it was Mo who asked where did the word disco come
>from?  Wasn't it from the 1960s word "discoteque"

Find below the beginning of the article I wrote for Cool & Strange Music
Magazine a couple of years back (issue #5) on big band discotheque
cash-in LPs, with a focus on Enoch Light. It may or may not shed some
light.

The Stern book entry quoted below at the start of the article also traces
"discotheques" back to WWII-era Paris. (in war-time, it was easier for a
club to spin records for entertainment than have a live band -- that
really is one INCREDIBLE book, BTW)

>In the 1960s what songs did DJs spin in Discotheques?
>Motown? Soul? Satisfaction by the Stones?

Yes, but it wasn't as specifically black-urban in its roots as 70s Disco.
Beatles and British Invasion also seemed to loom large. Look at the songs
typically covered on these 1964-67 LPs, and the original hit versions
were apparently the discotheque standards. Sandy Nelson should be a solid
barometer.

Last month after AMC showings of their Twist movies, they showed a few
nifty short films about discotheques that were pretty impressive. In one,
Lester Lanin's Discotheque LP on Philips could be seen in the background
on a club wall with other rock albums, suggesting these Exotica-artist
discotheque LPs had some level of legitimacy in at least some
discotheques.

I personally put a differentiation between "discotheque" and "now sound"
LPs -- "discotheque" is "A Hard Day's Night," "Goldfinger" and "Batman,"
(1964-67) -- and "now sound" is more post-hippy, post-"Music To Watch
Girls By," i.e. "Penny Lane," covers of "Hair" tunes, syrupy psychedelia,
and "Love American Style" style horns (1967-71).

For *later*-60s, more "NOW" discotheque scenes, there's Austin Powers for
reference. :-D

(Side note: I find it surprising that Enoch Light never did a Twist
record)

Anyway, here's the first third of so of my article:

- -------------------------------

"Disco wasn't always loathsome...before there were dances with names like
the Freek and the Lust Hustle, and before the word discotheque conjured
up images of writhing coke freaks with social diseases, "disco" meant a
nice lively bar with a record player and a selection of records on hand
where you could go for a drink and a listen, and maybe a few twirls
around the dance floor."

So begins the entry on "Disco" in Jane and Michael Stern's essential and
witty pop culture reference tome, The Encyclopedia of Bad Taste (Harper
Collins, 1990). Seventies disco truly has burnt such a deep brand on the
general public that it overshadows the mad, mod, jet-set dance clubs that
were all the rage when all the world was a go-go in the early- to
mid-1960s.

The focus of this article and its accompanying discography is on
discotheque recordings by pop artists with a big band, swing, or easy
listening lineage and a resulting distinctive big band/rock hybrid sound;
therefore, artists like The Ventures, who tend to be viewed as an
instrumental rock act, even though they were also on the discotheque
dance bandwagon, have been omitted. (Sandy Nelson also was more of a
young rock instrumentalist without an orchestral pop heritage, but the
fact that his albums were very much fueled by the discotheque craze makes
his mention in an article like this obligatory, even if he only gets one
run-on sentence out of the deal...)

Ultimately, this specific category of records was the logical extension
of the Waltz, Charleston, Cha Cha, Bossa Nova, and occasional
teen-oriented dance records Enoch Light and his contemporaries were
churning out. The instrumental pop scene capitalized on trends, dancing
and otherwise; after the Twist mania, the big multi-dance "discotheque"
scene happened to be the current craze to cash in on.

What sent the teens into Frugging frenzies and wild Hully Gully abandon
appear to be understood, at least from an academic standpoint, by Light
and his brigade of highly skilled studio musicians, and to a lesser
extent by the likes of Les Elgart and Jack Hansen. The result, however,
is a big band arrangement sensibility imposed on a style defined by young
4-5 piece guitar/drum combos. This mutant offspring sound had too lush of
an orchestra and way, way too many horns to be truly rock and roll (at
least in the pre-"Sgt. Pepper" era), but the beat was too punchy and fast
to be anything else. These big band boys, in trying to catch up with "the
sound of today," inadvertently created a characteristic sound whose
closest sonic similarities might be the Specials' brand of Ska, with its
driving horn sections and "bigger band." Neil Hefti's Batman music has a
very similar sound and may serve as a point of reference. It evolved into
the late sixties, post-psychedelic "NOW sound," the often-endearing
orchestral faux rock music whose trippy "NOW"-emblazoned album covers had
to convince buyers the questionably uncool record inside was truly "with
it," and "NOW."
...



Michael David Toth
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Date: Wed, 4 Oct 00 23:29:09 -0400
From: "Michael D. Toth" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) "Love American Style" Soundtrack?

(A question prompted by my comments in my other discotheque/Now
posting...)

Does anyone know if there was ever a "Love American Style" soundtrack LP
issued? I've never seen one but would LOVE to hear one.

Michael David Toth
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Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 00:04:36 -0500
From: "Paul Wages" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) disco may suck but this doesn't (tindersticks)

Never heard a disco song that I've liked.  I'm beginning to think I have an
aversion to anything that's expressly dance-oriented.  All disco is, isn't
it?

Alan Zweig wrote:

> And at the time I could claim a sort of purity since all I listened to was
> sad music. The American Music Club, Nick Drake, Tindersticks, Smog...

Interesting that there is another Tindersticks fan on the list.  Any others?
Actually, I have a feeling some of their stuff may go over really well with
some of you.  In particular, the soundtrack to the French movie "Nennette et
Boni".  Probably one of the best film scores by a pop band in recent memory.

Then again I remember Lounge Magazine published a particularly negative
review of their album "Curtains" a few years back...  I never did like that
magazine much.

Paul


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Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 23:29:10 -0700
From: Christine Karkow <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Music I Hate

I agree with everyone else's hate list.  Definently New Age really makes me
want to puke, to the point where I made loud protests on an America West red
eye flight because they were playing videos of John Tesh as we boarded.
(ok, so I'd been drinking a little-I mean, that's the joy of red eye
flights, isn't it?)  It really sucked when they turned it back on when we
reached Newark (Newark, no sleep and John Tesh.  You get my point)  Yanni
should be arrested.  I stopped giving to public TV when they had continuous
"Yanni, live from the Acropolis" on thier fundrasers.

I also agree that broadway musicals are hideous, and Andrew Lloyd Weber is
an abomination on the world of music.  And, Celine Dion, Whiteney Houston
and her ilk are definently on my most hated list.  another category that
makes me want to shoot the radio (or the TV, a la Elvis) is the happy go
lucky pseudo alternative crap like Third Eye Blind and Foo Fighters along
with Greenday.  Its amazing how vapid the "Alternative" genre has become in
such a short time.

Now,  having said this I have to agree that now I like music that I
previously hated, like Lenny Dee.  Recently, I stole my dad's records, ( he
doesn't listen to them anymore)  and to my amusement, I found that as a kid,
I had applied a label to one of the Lenny Dee albums that said "bad music".
Now I'm wearing the record out.

but I must say, I have always, and think that I always shall love The
Tijuana Brass.

christine



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Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 23:38:30 -0700
From: Christine Karkow <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re:cheesy versus easy

I'll see what I can do-But the Tiki Bar at the Nugget is VERY dark, maybe
folks won't get mad if we use a flash.  I know we will down at least 3
scorpions in an hour.  after that, I probably won't care what the other
clientele think.



christine


Know what?
I want pictures.
Peter





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Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 02:54:02 -0400
From: alan  zweig <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re:  discotheque culture

At 11:26 PM 10/4/00 -0400, Michael D. Toth wrote:
>
>I personally put a differentiation between "discotheque" and "now sound"
>LPs -- "discotheque" is "A Hard Day's Night," "Goldfinger" and "Batman,"
>(1964-67) -- and "now sound" is more post-hippy, post-"Music To Watch
>Girls By," i.e. "Penny Lane," covers of "Hair" tunes, syrupy psychedelia,
>and "Love American Style" style horns (1967-71).

Well now.  What you call "discotheque", I call NOW Sound.
Actually I call them both Now.  I don't use the term dischoteque.
But I do differentiate within Now, calling some of it "Classic NOW".  What
I call "classic Now" is what you call "dischotheque".
I've been making A LOT of "NOW sound" CDR's lately and getting rid of a lot
of LP's. If I could lay my hands on the discarded LP's right now, I think I
could make a case for my interpretation, point out LP's that actually say
things like "Billy May TODAY!" or all the references to "NOW".
But it doesn't matter. I find it fascinating that anyone else is busy
making this kind of distinction.
Alan



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Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 02:59:26 -0400
From: alan  zweig <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) disco may suck but this doesn't (tindersticks)

At 12:04 AM 10/5/00 -0500, Paul Wages wrote:
>
>Interesting that there is another Tindersticks fan on the list.  Any others?
>Actually, I have a feeling some of their stuff may go over really well with
>some of you.

I'm always wondering whether I can reference or even recommend that kind of
music to people here.  They used Tindersticks very effectively in one of
the last episodes of The Sopranos.
Here are two more recommendations.
In both these cases, I would say if you like Bacharach, you'll like
The Pernice Brothers "Overcome by Happiness"
and in a slightly more warped vein
Lambchop "Nixon".
I wouldn't recommend ALL Lambchop but this one, yeah.

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Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 09:36:07 +0200
From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) discotheque culture

thanks for some historic reviews on the subject, especially Jimmy's.
I understand that the term disco is just a random coincidence. It stems
from discotheque, a dance place for the poor, that could not afford live
bands, and I guess some day people started to refer to those places as
"discos", just as they started to call Australians aussies and
television sets teles, and subsequently the music that was played in
discos, when discotheques were discos, was called disco music, or simply
disco. So disco isn't a specific new style, just mainstream dance music,
that had evolved from the mainstream dance music before the time when
discoteques were called discos, mainly soul and funk, when it became
more popular for a wider audience, mainly for a whiter audience. Later
discoteques were called music clubs, or simply clubs, and that's when
the discoteque music, that was played there, became club music, or
simply club. Same with dancehall, hip hop, pub rock...

Makes sense.

Mo




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Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 08:23:28 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Legend of the Jivaro

Yma Sumac's Legend of the Jivaro is now out of print.  Anyone know of a copy
(new or used) for sale?

Let me know

Thanks

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Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 08:23:19 -0400
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) (tindersticks)

> Interesting that there is another Tindersticks fan on the list.  Any others?

I'm a Tindersticks fan also.  Their self-titled CD that contains the songs 'Tiny
Tears' and 'Travelling Light' is perhaps my favorite CD I've bought in the past
5 years.

I wrote a small piece about this CD in issue 4 of my zine 'Cannot Become
Obsolete'  Here's a portion of that piece ...

 "This has been my best CD purchase and discovery in years.  The songs for the
most part are slow with a somewhat sleepy feel to them, but oh, what great songs
they are.  The lead vocals are often done in what sounds like a slightly drunk,
slurry fashion ... at times you have to listen closely to catch the words.  What
makes this CD leap out above everything else I've heard lately are the string
arrangements.  Most string arrangements on the 1950's era orchestral LPs are not
fun at all to listen to, and usually when I hear a few seconds from one of those
records, I'm ready to toss it aside and move to something else.

  The Tindersticks CD has shown me the real power of what strings can achieve
... and it is amazingly good.  70 minutes of powerful, freamy music, and almost
every one of them is top rate."

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Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 09:54:00 -0400
From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Legend of the Jivaro

>Yma Sumac's Legend of the Jivaro is now out of print.  Anyone know of a copy
>(new or used) for sale?
>
>Let me know

Try this link; be sure you look at vendor feedback:

http://www2.gemm.com/c/search.pl?sid=6481004&key=72018&field=Artist+or+Title&wild=sumac%2C+yma

http://www.gemm.com is a nice starting point to try and find things.

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Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 10:09:02 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) "Love American Style" Soundtrack?

<< Does anyone know if there was ever a "Love American Style" soundtrack LP
 issued? I've never seen one but would LOVE to hear one.  >>

Yes, yes!  There sure was.

It's bookmarked on my ebay want list, but the only listings that ever come up
are Beastie Boys stuff.

I saw it up once in the past 6 months, a VG copy.  My $25 max bid fell far
short  :(

Other online sources I check in with from time to time have been no help
either.

here are the vitals:

Love American Style (Capitol ST-11250)
1973, composed and conducted by Charles Fox (Barbarella, Pufnstuf, others)

Near Mint books at only $40, which indicates to me it should be a little
easier to find than it has been.

So, where is it?  Who's got it?  I guess everybody is hanging onto it...

The other side of the coin is my experience with John Barry's The Wrong Box,
which books much, much higher and I see it selling all the time.  I paid big
bucks (ouch) for my copy of this record and promptly relisted it on ebay to
recover my money...what a disappointment...






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Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 14:30:46 GMT
From: "Tiki head" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Music I Hate

I just wanted to add to the list...

I can't stand any music made by one or two slightly overweight unatractive
"chicks" in flannel shirts and "blue" jeans playing an acoustic guitar and
bitchin' about the demise of the whale and/or society as a whole.....blah,
blah, blah.


uhhhh, oh yeah Kenny G., and Celine D. too.

thanks.
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Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 12:11:23 -0400
From: George Hall <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) RE: Eno/Evil

    In an interview I saw with Mr. Eno some time back, he mentioned his
problem with being lumped together with the Winstons & such. His main
problem with so-called "New Age" music (in itself a perhaps even less
meaningful umbrella phrase than "rock," "jazz," etc) was that "there's no
evil in it."
    & speaking of evil, I just saw my first ad for the upcoming
"Bedazzled" remake & it looks quite as atrocious as I'd thought it would be.
Much as I've come to accept that remakes generally suck, that you can't go
home again etc, the concept of casting Elizabeth Hurley - who no doubt has
her talents, tho acting not among them - in a role previously inhabited by
one of the great comic actors of his era still manages to impress me.
  gh


        F. Cobalt wrote:

        On the subject of hated music, I have to say that there is a
line to be drawn between Brian Eno and New Age. I highly doubt most New Age
composers are making their lukewarm music from any sort of experimental
approach that Eno has always used, either in techniques or instrumentation
or even philosophy. Granted I love ambient music but of an experimental
nature. I even make plenty of allowances for Enya. Someone who lays down
some absurd number of vocal tracks (I've heard something like upward of 50)
just to get the right layering, is working in a very different part of the
brain than a Windam Hill artist.



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Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 12:42:42 -0400
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) RE: Eno/Evil

> was that "there's no evil in it."

That was Jon Hassell (though Eno may have quoted it later).


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Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 12:48:01 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Tindersticks

I also love their second album. I never gave "Curtains " a chance as it
initially disappointed me. My favorite review of them was the one that
described them as a blend of Leonard Cohen and Englebert Humperdinck.

Bob


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Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 11:55:06 -0500
From: "Robert Blahut, Jr." <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) disko and music i hate

cheryl wrote:

You have to wonder about people who willingly tune in lite rock
radio...maybe it's just to torture others...


lite rock??? have you ever been hit in the head with a lite rock? (or how
about a soft rock???)

i probably can't spell this correctly but i can't stand that mariah carry
kind of screeching!!! and it seems that that type of music is what is
called R&B these days  (ohm i know...urban contemporary yech!)  sometimes i
have to listen to it for 5 or 10 minutes while i do something and that is
really about the limit of what i can stand

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Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 10:03:44 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Domenic Ciccone" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Eno-Point and Bryars:"Sinking of the Titanic".

Eno started the Point label. And my favorite "ambient" disk is on his label.

I just found this url about the CD. http://www.philclas.polygram.nl/class/446/446061.htm

This was written by Gavin Bryars. When things get stressful at work and I have to spend a chuck of time on the computer creating something fast I pop this into the CD player.

This composition is ôbuilt around the irregular repetition of the episcopal hymn Autumnö. . Since the Titanic movie has come out I have enjoyed lending this to friends who liked the movie. Some have gone bug-nuts over it and some have found it ômusic to drown by- if your on Prozacö.


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Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 13:10:29 -0400
From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) RE: Eno/Evil

Among the issues that I have with Windham Hill, outside of the flaccid
music is the cookie cutter packaging of dull, pleasant photography.  It's
hard for an artist to distinguish themselves if their albums all look
alike.  In this case, it seems to have worked, but there were at least two
other labels in which it didn't, Narada and JVC, I think.  Were I recording
(I almost did.  Waaah.), I would bristle against that idea.  Windham Hill's
packaging was better than Narada's beige earth toned nightmares.  The year
I worked in Tower Records, we didn't sell one of the Naradas on my shift
that I saw.

I do agree with other listers about Hassell, I rather like "Dream Theory in
Malaya" and Enya.

Brian Phillips





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Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 13:21:44 -0500
From: "Indy Rutks" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) VH1 ranks top dance songs

VH1 ranks top dance songs


NEW YORK (Billboard) - VH1 takes its "100 Greatest" countdown franchise to
the dance floor next week with a five-part series that finds Gloria Gaynor's
1979 hit "I Will Survive" as the No. 1 greatest dance song of all time. The
"100 Greatest Dance Songs," hosted by Paula Abdul, will kick off its
five-night run at Monday on VH1. Not surprisingly, tracks from the disco era
of the '70s make up more than half of the tally with seven of the top 10
positions filled by '70s dance floor classics. The '80s are second on the
list, with 25 entries. That said, the list truly spans more than four
decades, with the Ray Charles' 1959 single "What'd I Say" being the oldest
to make its mark at No. 96, and Cher's 1999 hit "Believe," ranked at No. 60,
as the newest.



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Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 15:01:58 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re:  (exotica) VH1 ranks top dance songs

In a message dated 10/5/0 2:25:47 PM, [e-mail] wrote:

>Gloria Gaynor's 1979 hit "I Will Survive" as the No. 1 greatest dance song
of all >time.

For those that like "answer" rekkids, Creme D'Cocoa answers this one
brilliantly from the male perspective..Same title, different lyrics obviously
and a stunner of an ending..5 Stars..JB


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Date: Thu, 5 Oct 00 15:26:20 -0400
From: "Michael D. Toth" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) "Love American Style" Soundtrack?

Earlier, I ([e-mail]) wrote:

><< Does anyone know if there was ever a "Love American Style" soundtrack LP
> issued? I've never seen one but would LOVE to hear one.  >>

[e-mail] replied:

>Yes, yes!  There sure was.
...
>Love American Style (Capitol ST-11250)
>1973, composed and conducted by Charles Fox (Barbarella, Pufnstuf, others)

Zow! I wonder if Capitol owns this, or like many soundtracks, someone
other than the original label who issued it runs the show. I wonder if
the reason we've never seen a reissue is there's no perceived demand, or
there's some sort of logistical red tape a la Barbarella. Considering the
show's continued cable re-runs, this seems fairly marketable.

I tended to view Bob Crewe as the main force behind Barbarella, perhaps
my favorite soundtrack, and may have underestimated Charles Fox. Any
other Charles Fox material out there I should be seeking?

Michael David Toth
[e-mail]
[e-mail]



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Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 16:22:22 -0400
From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) "Love American Style" Soundtrack?

>I tended to view Bob Crewe as the main force behind Barbarella, perhaps
>my favorite soundtrack, and may have underestimated Charles Fox. Any
>other Charles Fox material out there I should be seeking?

Wasn't the "Wonder Woman" theme written by Norman Gimble and Charles
Fox?  Always liked that one.

Brian Phillips





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Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 16:19:48 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) "Love American Style" Soundtrack?

In a message dated 10/5/00 3:18:14 PM Central Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< Wasn't the "Wonder Woman" theme written by Norman Gimble and Charles
 Fox?  Always liked that one. >>

Yep. "Fighting for your rights / In her satin tights" -- what a lyric.

- --Rod
www.hitchmagazine.com


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Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 16:36:39 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Rod Lauren

I picked up this Rod Lauren album and I was expecting an Elvis imitation
(what was that 50s hit he had?) and it's not that at all. It's
romantic/lounge. It's surprisingly very good. Kind of Johnny Mathisish. Any
comments or details about him? Is he still alive?
Gloria


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Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 17:18:26 -0400
From: alan  zweig <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) fickle fickle

I was just making a CDR using some TV theme LP's.  I'm not getting rid of
all of them but I needed some "keepers" to fill it out.  So I come to that
Mancini "Cop Show theme" LP.  Around these parts that's an in-demand slab
of vinyl. Worth at least 40 bucks.  All for the theme to "The Streets of
San Francisco".   All because some Dj's like to play that and then people
want it.  But damn, that's fickle.  The Swat Theme by Ray Conniff is almost
as good and the version by Lawrence Welk is somewhat groovier than all of
them.  Same with Lawrence's version of the Baretta theme.  Not that I want
to see Lawrence Welk records going for 40 bucks but it's really George
Cates anyway.  BTW George made some of my favorite records under the guise
of "The Sounds of Our Times".  NOW Sound classics all of them, especially
"Music for the Flower Children".




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Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 17:18:22 -0400
From: alan  zweig <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) disco themes

I don't know about the "greatest disco songs" list but if it excludes the
Theme From Swat and the Baretta Theme, it's way off.  Right now I'm just
trying to decide who does the better version of Swat.  Ray Conniff or
Lawrence Welk.



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Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 19:35:35 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) fickle fickle

<< So I come to that
 Mancini "Cop Show theme" LP.  Around these parts that's an in-demand slab
 of vinyl. Worth at least 40 bucks.  All for the theme to "The Streets of
 San Francisco".   All because some Dj's like to play that and then people
 want it.  >>

Wow - it's even out on CD, too.  i had no idea.  Maybe Symphonic Soul is up
there too.

But I know what you mean.

Spice up your Ebay listings with Keywords like RAP, FUNK, GROOVE, BREAKBEAT,
DJ, SAMPLE, etc, and watch the price soar!


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Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 02:26:19 +0200 (MEST)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re(exotica) Tom Jones greatest records

"Paul Hodge" [e-mail] wrote:

>How many of you guys out there know of Tom Jones greatest record.
>It's the B-side of 'I'm coming home' and is called 'The Lonely One'

Funny you mention it, because i also just was thinking to post about that
MONSTER track.
I orderd the single, because i thought that the a side where his vers of
the Ben Tucker Bob Dorough classic. First disappointed about a lame ballard i
turned it over and couldn't believe it



>It's the biggest hipshaking mother of all records.

I can't agree with that. It 's his best Up Tempo Soul Track that i know
from Tom Jones but to say that it is the the biggest hipshaking mother of all
records is exaggerated. Just for example some
Up Tempo BATUCADA tracks from the late 60s are much groovyer. Or
DON FARDONS I am Alive or
ST. VINCENT LATINAIRES -Broasted Or Fried by the or
BILLY HAWKS O Baby I Believe.I m Losing You......



>Occasionally played at London's Blow Up and Happiness Stans in London.

...and at the Atomic Cafe in Muinch on Tuesday and on Saturday at the
Beatschuppen Clubnight



>Incidentally are there any fans of the Blow Up club scene out there? It'd
be
>great
>to talk to you guys about hard hammond grooves, orgasmic pop, dancefloor
>jazz
>tracks and swap notes.

I am.
The stuff in that field i am most after is late 60s Latin Soul and Latin
Funk at the moment because there is still a lot undiscovert that hardly needs
to be reissued. And good PSYCHEDELIC and DANCEABLE cuts are also hard to
find. But of corse a good 'normal' Pop Track is also always Welcome...just any
good cut...

I think with orgasmic pop you mean Psych Pop ? The last two DANCEABLE
Psych Pop tracks I have found where :
BILLY NICHOLLS   Portobello Road    on CD 'Would You Believe' Immediate,
Sequel Rec.    and
PHILWIT & PEGASUS   Elephant Song    LP Boot Comp 'Collecting Peppermint
Clouds'



Some special discoverys from the last time that you made ?
Even STAND OUT TRACKS from the countless obscure Reissues are interresting
!!
Or something you are after ?


Martin




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