>Find out what song was #1 on the British charts the day you were born (or
>whatever date you want to look up):
>
>http://www.thisdayinmusic.com/cont/choose.html
>
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Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 10:40:00 +0800
From: "william" <king8egg@ms60.url.com.tw>
Subject: (exotica) deaf
> I do a (mainly) disco night once a week in one of the clubs on the
seafront,
> and during the spring about the only regular clientele we had was about 20
> deaf people who used to come down every week (and dance I will say).
> Obviously signing is very useful in a club environment, but how do you
have
> one of those 'private' conversations if your signing?
>
in deaf culture i think it's considered rude to watch other people sign.
it's sort of like eavedropping. though, deaf culture also tends to be rather
blunt. so maybe they don't care if other people "listen" in on their
conversations...
william in taipei.
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Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 18:54:21 -0700
From: "Stephen W. Worth" <bigshot@spumco.com>
Subject: (exotica) Easy Cheezy and What I Hate
I used to like to listen to William Shatner and the Ethel
Merman Disco Album, but I came to a realization... There
is WAY too much good music to waste time on the "so bad
it's good" stuff.
As for types of music... I haven't found any that I hate
catagorically. I like some of Brian Eno's ambient music, which
certainly fits in the "new age" category. I also like Spike
Jones, who was the Weird Al of his day. I don't consider "New
Country" to be a type of music unto itself. It's basically just
plain old "modern pop" in a pair of cowboy boots. Pop music
isn't a particularly fertile ground for music any more, but
it does have occasional flashes of brilliance.
My favorite kinds of music are jazz, classical, ethnic,
rock & roll, country & western, big band, pop vocal,
novelty songs, opera and pop music. If you can think of any
categories of music that this doesn't cover, let me know and
I'll probably like that too.
See ya
Steve
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Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 22:43:17 -0400
From: "B. Yost" <byost@megsinet.net>
Subject: (exotica) Re: disco & Chicago vinyl burn
I'm enjoying all the talk about disco. I like it.
>From an interview with Chicago house producer, Glenn Underground:
>Even though, like many of his compadres, he was behind the decks when he was ten or eleven, he didn't
>experience the initial disco scene first hand. But, "I knew about the music," he says. "If we didn't have >disco we wouldn't have house."
>
>He tells a story about a mass record-burning some years ago, saying that disco instigated political
> ripplings in Chicago.
> "They blew up over a 100,000 disco records in Kaminsky Park. Who? These CRAZY white executives saying
> that disco was DEAD. They said disco was dead so they burnt the records. They don't know it's the hottest
> selling records, it sells almost more than R&B music. Executives of these rock and roll groups petitioned
> it. It happened! I wish I was there, 'cuz they would have had to BLOW me up as well. I love my classics."
>
> Picture the scene: GU, tall and righteous throwing himself onto a pile of disco vinyl searching for the classic records whilst a group of bemused straight-backed suits stand and gawk. It shows the strength and sense of history that the city has with disco that his whole persona is so flavoured with the sights and sounds of a twenty-year old music.
Does anyone on this list actually remember the big disco LP burn or have
personal stories/recollections?
- - Brad
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Date: 3 Oct 2000 20:03:39 -0700
From: mkg@calle22.com
Subject: (exotica) Sandro (Tom Jones from Argentina)
About Sandro... Well, he certainly was a looker. He also was a sweater. One of his standard show features was to pick up handkerchifs that the fans would throw on stage, dry his sweaty face with it, and then hand it back to the lucky owner of the piece. In the cheese scale this certainly has to be one of those smelly ones that you have to eat with your fingers on your nose.
Cheers,
Manuel
>
> But while we're on the subject of Tom Jones (whom
> I also love) - does anyone else here dig Sandro,
> the Argentinean Tom Jones? Scored a couple of
> late 60s / early 70s LPs of his a few months back.
> He sings too many ballads but the uptempo numbers
> remind me very much of Tom. And he was a
> looker, too - in a moody Elvis sorta way.
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Date: 3 Oct 2000 20:03:29 -0700
From: mkg@calle22.com
Subject: (exotica) Sandro (Tom Jones from Argentina)
About Sandro... Well, he certainly was a looker. He also was a sweater. One of his standard show features was to pick up handkerchifs that the fans would throw on stage, dry his sweaty face with it, and then hand it back to the lucky owner of the piece. In the cheese scale this certainly has to be one of those smelly ones that you have to eat with your fingers on your nose.
Cheers,
Manuel
>
> But while we're on the subject of Tom Jones (whom
> I also love) - does anyone else here dig Sandro,
> the Argentinean Tom Jones? Scored a couple of
> late 60s / early 70s LPs of his a few months back.
> He sings too many ballads but the uptempo numbers
> remind me very much of Tom. And he was a
> looker, too - in a moody Elvis sorta way.
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Date: 3 Oct 2000 20:03:29 -0700
From: mkg@calle22.com
Subject: (exotica) Sandro (Tom Jones from Argentina)
About Sandro... Well, he certainly was a looker. He also was a sweater. One of his standard show features was to pick up handkerchifs that the fans would throw on stage, dry his sweaty face with it, and then hand it back to the lucky owner of the piece. In the cheese scale this certainly has to be one of those smelly ones that you have to eat with your fingers on your nose.
Cheers,
Manuel
>
> But while we're on the subject of Tom Jones (whom
> I also love) - does anyone else here dig Sandro,
> the Argentinean Tom Jones? Scored a couple of
> late 60s / early 70s LPs of his a few months back.
> He sings too many ballads but the uptempo numbers
> remind me very much of Tom. And he was a
> looker, too - in a moody Elvis sorta way.
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Date: 3 Oct 2000 20:03:39 -0700
From: mkg@calle22.com
Subject: (exotica) Sandro (Tom Jones from Argentina)
About Sandro... Well, he certainly was a looker. He also was a sweater. One of his standard show features was to pick up handkerchifs that the fans would throw on stage, dry his sweaty face with it, and then hand it back to the lucky owner of the piece. In the cheese scale this certainly has to be one of those smelly ones that you have to eat with your fingers on your nose.
Cheers,
Manuel
>
> But while we're on the subject of Tom Jones (whom
> I also love) - does anyone else here dig Sandro,
> the Argentinean Tom Jones? Scored a couple of
> late 60s / early 70s LPs of his a few months back.
> He sings too many ballads but the uptempo numbers
> remind me very much of Tom. And he was a
> looker, too - in a moody Elvis sorta way.
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Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 05:52:35 -0400
From: "Risser Family" <risser@cinci.rr.com>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re:cheesy versus easy
> I personally love the guy and see him every year he comes to Reno. And
yes,
> Oct 13, 14 he will be here again. If any of you are near Reno, come join
us
> at John Ascuaga's Nugget on Friday-we shall meet at Trader Dick's at about
> 6:30. I'll be wearing a mini skirt, a tiger-stripped shirt and I'll be
> hanging off a scorpion with the straw in my mouth....life is good-
> christine
Know what?
I want pictures.
Peter
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Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 11:33:28 +0100
From: Charles Moseley <charlesm@mdi-uk.com>
Subject: (exotica) Score!
Well after a recommendation from Mr Diamond a while ago, I have finally
got a copy of Up the Down Staircase by Fred Karlin, which if anybody
remembers, totally rocked Jack's world.
After a quick listen last night it is pretty cool. It doesn't rank up
there with The Hanged Man, The Heist ($), Bullitt or Hells Belles but
it's good. A couple of the tracks are dancefloor friendly and very
frantic with good rocking drums and Hammond. Others are typically 60s
soundtrack - plodding jazzy instrumental small combo, no electronics. As
always, only a couple of tracks stand out, the rest is OK filler.
I seem to be acquiring records at the rate of one a month at the moment
- - very depressing but at least I'm going for quality over quantity. Now
where can I find my next two holy grails: Philipe Sarde's Max et les
Ferrailures and Sohail Rana's Kybher Mall..........
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Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 12:08:03 +0100
From: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk
Subject: (exotica) MacArthur Park
On the Subject of Disco, I picked up Donna Summers version of this a couple
of weeks ago, and while we were dancing round the house checking it out
(gotta make sure it doesn't skip, right? 2 or 3 times just to make sure
sometimes) I mentioned to the boss that Richard Harris had done the
original. Of course she wouldn't believe he had even done an LP (got common
sense like that).
So this morning while 'Out on site' I went past a charity shop and just
peeked at the LP's and there it was, Richard Harris LP with Jimmy Webb 49p.
Lovely. I heard (or was it read) and interview with Jimmy Webb where he was
talking about recording the LP and going out on the town with Harris
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Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 12:17:46 +0100
From: Michael Jemmeson <michael@moreover.com>
Subject: Re: (exotica) MacArthur Park
G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk wrote:
>
> On the Subject of Disco, I picked up Donna Summers version of this a couple
> of weeks ago, and while we were dancing round the house checking it out
> (gotta make sure it doesn't skip, right? 2 or 3 times just to make sure
> sometimes) I mentioned to the boss that Richard Harris had done the
> original. Of course she wouldn't believe he had even done an LP (got common
> sense like that).
>
> So this morning while 'Out on site' I went past a charity shop and just
> peeked at the LP's and there it was, Richard Harris LP with Jimmy Webb 49p.
> Lovely. I heard (or was it read) and interview with Jimmy Webb where he was
> talking about recording the LP and going out on the town with Harris
> overnight. Very funny stuff.
He made at least 3 lps...
A couple are spoken word/poetry stuff
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Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 08:37:27 -0400
From: itsvern@ibm.net
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re:cheesy versus easy
> Escape to Wisconsin, where the state motto is something like "Mo' cheese,
> mo' betta!"
I prefer "Eat Cheese or Die"
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Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 08:04:00 -0500 (CDT)
From: Kerry <dymaxia@ripco.com>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: disco & Chicago vinyl burn
On Tue, 3 Oct 2000, B. Yost wrote:
> He tells a story about a mass record-burning some years ago, saying
> > that disco instigated political > > ripplings in Chicago.
> > "They blew up over a 100,000 disco records in Kaminsky Park. Who? These CRAZY white executives saying
> > that disco was DEAD. They said disco was dead so they burnt the records. They don't know it's the hottest
> > selling records, it sells almost more than R&B music. Executives of these rock and roll groups petitioned
> > it. It happened! I wish I was there, 'cuz they would have had to BLOW me up as well. I love my classics."
> >
> > Picture the scene: GU, tall and righteous throwing himself onto a pile of disco vinyl searching for the classic records whilst a group of bemused straight-backed suits stand and gawk. It shows the strength and sense of history that the city has with disco that his whole persona is so flavoured with the sights and sounds of a twenty-year old music.
>
>
> Does anyone on this list actually remember the big disco LP burn or have
> personal stories/recollections?
Oh yes, I remember it clearly, as would any kid who
grew up in Chicago in the seventies. I was about 8 or 9 at the
time. Our family were big Sox fans who went to several
games a year (BTW, it's "Comiskey Park"). A group
from our school went to that game, but my mother
wouldn't let my brother and I go because she didn't
think Steve Dahl was healthy for children. We had
disco records, but we were still pissed that we didn't
get to see the conflagration first hand. As a consolation,
we got to go to the next game, and the outfield was
still brown and scarred from the incident.
The event was called "Disco Demolition Night" and was
hosted by local rock DJ Steve Dahl, one of the
original shock jocks. You were supposed to show up
at the park with a disco record, (for the explicit
purpose of blowing them up) and anyone who did
got a discount. The records were gathered up and
put into a big box, and I think they were hauled
out to center field between two games of a double
header. I saw this on TV. Steve Dahl was wearing
a hard hat and carried a bullhorn, leading a chant
of "Disco Sucks". Fans charged the field
and were throwing disco records around. It was a
near riot. Then the Sox had to forfeit the second
game.
The "blowing up" was part of the plan from the beginning.
It sounds insane, but that was typical of the late seventies
when the Sox were owned by Bill Veeck. Bill Veeck's son
thought up the whole thing. Cubs fans still like to hold
this one against the Sox. You can read about it all over
the web. ESPN has it listed as one of the most infamous
moments in sports history. Just search under "Disco
Demolition Night".
- --
Kerry
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Date: 04 Oct 2000 12:32:35 -0400
From: Eric Taub <eric_taub@wgbh.org>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Ventures Twilight Zone Goes Disco
Didn't Manhattan Transfer do a "disco" version of Twighlight Zone too? =
For some reason I keep hearing Twighlight Tone, tho.
Eric
On Wednesday, October 4, 2000, chuck <chuckmk@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>The good ole Ventures remade the Twilight Zone in a hi-nrg version
>around 1983.
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Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 13:01:41 -0400
From: "m.ace" <mace@ookworld.com>
Subject: Re: (exotica) The First Disco Record
>i asked this question many years ago when i first went out DISCOING!
>luckily i hit the end of it in 1979. i was 17 with fake id. i wanted to be
>a dj then and made chit chat with the dj at the club i was at. he said it
>was a Gloria Gaynor song from like 73 or something.
>suppose to be the OFFICIAL disco song...i wish i could remember the title.
>i think i even tracked it down and listened and did not think it was disco
>at all.
Pulling titles from the "Rock & Soul Songs Annual" article... do any of these ring a bell?
Honey Bee
Never Can Say Goodbye
Reach Out, I'll Be There
from the article:
"Finally this past March, with riches gathering about her feet in mounds bigger than Scrooge McDuck's money bin, Gloria was certified a Superstar by the boys whose desires count the most -- the bachelors at Le Jardin. In a poll conducted by the National Association of Discotheque Disc Jockeys, she was voted Queen Of The Discotheques ... A trophy, a jeweled crown and a citation from New York's Mayor, Honest Abe Beame -- what more could a girl ask for? Only the love of the dancingest, prancingest boys in the world. And Gloria Gaynor's got that too."
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Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 13:30:34 -0400
From: Brian Phillips <hagar@mindspring.net>
Subject: Re: (exotica) The First Disco Record
>Never Can Say Goodbye
This song is most certainly a disco song, complete with thump-hihat-thumpiness.
Actor Clifton Davis wrote this, by the way. Then he took the cloth. Any
correlation?
Brian Phillips
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Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 10:26:17 -0700 (PDT)
From: chuck <chuckmk@yahoo.com>
Subject: (exotica) Ventures Out Of Limits Goes Hi-Nrg
This song is definitely called Out Of Limits not Twilight Zone
though it uses Twilight Zone's riff. Its a remake of the Marketts
early 1960s hit instrumental and the Ventures remake from the 60's.
This is one hot hot hi-nrg song. An astounding number of BPMs.
I wonder which hi-nrg disc has the most BPM??
I also would recommend the 1983/84 remake of I'm Not Your Stepping
Stone, but I can't remember the band's name.
Forbidden Lover from 83 tops them all!
This is a great thread! Really stirs some brain cells.
- --- chuck <chuckmk@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> The good ole Ventures remade the Twilight Zone in a hi-nrg
> version around 1983. This version ROCKSSSSSS!!!!! Vocoder
vocals add an outer space touch to this guitar driven hi-nrg romp!
The super fast BPM are arranged perfectly! If I remember correctly
it even has
> the hi-nrg part that goes screeching up high. I highly
> recommend
> this song to hi-nrg exotcats!
>
> It has an awesome flip side remake of Walk Don't Run if my memory
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Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 10:42:37 -0700
From: "F. Cobalt" <fcobalt@lycos.com>
Subject: (exotica) Hated music
On the subject of hated music, I have to say that there is a line to be drawn between Brian Eno and New Age. I highly doubt most New Age composers are making their lukewarm music from any sort of experimental approach that Eno has always used, either in techniques or instrumentation or even philosophy. Granted I love ambient music but of an experimental nature. I even make plenty of allowances for Enya. Someone who lays down some absurd number of vocal tracks (I've heard something like upward of 50) just to get the right layering, is working in a very different part of the brain than a Windam Hill artist.
Lately I've really been into soft rock "classics" that I vaguely remember from my childhood. However I draw the line at Air Supply and Phil Collins. And then at people like Celine Dion and all those popular teen bands.
I also draw the line at Kenny G. If it isn't jazz, and it isn't New Age, what exactly is it?
I also don't like polka, I find Dixieland very aggravating, and I'd have to say probably any country music after '75, unless it's part of the insurgent revival. I think I could sum up my philosophy about country music as "the older the better", though at that point we just end up with the Carter Family and Robert Johnson, which is always good.
And I do sort of shy away from Billy Vaughn, Percy Faith, and the Mystic Moods Orchestra, but I have to draw the line somewhere. Like someone already said about joke music, I only have so much time to listen to music, I want to listen to the good stuff. So I'd rather unearth some Peter Thomas or Pete Rugolo I've never heard before than clog up my stereo with innocuous easy, which I'd say I've done my time with.
And, I'd have to say, disco is fine with me, though if anyone wants my Donny Osmond "Disco Train" record, take it from me, please. That record is not fine with me.
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Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 14:55:35 EDT
From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com
Subject: Re: (exotica)The First Disco Record
In a message dated 10/4/0 11:12:45 AM, bumpy@megsinet.net wrote:
>a Gloria Gaynor song from like 73 or something.
>suppose to be the OFFICIAL disco song...i wish i could remember the title.
"Real Good People" or "Honey Bee" I'm thinking
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Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 15:03:29 EDT
From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com
Subject: (exotica) Re:The First Disco Record Redux
In a message dated 10/4/0 11:12:45 AM, bumpy@megsinet.net wrote:
>a Gloria Gaynor song from like 73 or something.
>suppose to be the OFFICIAL disco song...i wish i could remember the title.
That was the thing about early disco..It didn't have a formula like the
thumpa thumpa stuff another lister mentioned. That was the suburban almost
POST Saturday Night Fever Disco wannabe music that most people seem to think
of as disco..The rock guy was hyping himself...After all, rock didn't have
much to brag about in the late 7T's either! (aside from DIY stuff) The early
disco stuff was album cuts and 45's and they were mostly segued on belt
driven turntables, not mixed like today's machine-driven BPM's on Direct
Drive wheels of steel. Even early disco mixes when they DID make 12" rekkids
(from late '75 onward) was nowhere near as seemless as today's stuff. The
drums were played in studio under the metronome, but a human with frailties
played 'em and the beats were very difficult to match. Still, its hard to
match the excitement of a well put together mixed set of music..yesterday or
today. For a good example of mixed disco, I recommend "Larry Levan, Live At
The Paradise Garage" 2-CD set. Although the stuff steps into the 8T's, it
still captures the spirit of the talents of mixologists back in the
day....JB/that set is at Other Music
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Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 15:06:47 EDT
From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com
Subject: Re: (exotica) Hated music
In a message dated 10/4/0 1:51:40 PM, fcobalt@lycos.com wrote:
>I also draw the line at Kenny G. If it isn't jazz, and it isn't New Age,
what exactly
>is it?
George of Seks Bomba tagged it accurately a few months back "Fuzak"
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Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 12:43:01 -0700 (PDT)
From: chuck <chuckmk@yahoo.com>
Subject: (exotica) The First Disco Record/discotheque
You are a genius!!! This song has many of the hallmarks of
classic disco.
Also I think it was Mo who asked where did the word disco come
from? Wasn't it from the 1960s word "discoteque"
In the 1960s what songs did DJs spin in Discotheques?
Motown? Soul? Satisfaction by the Stones?
Also I saw an lp for sale at jackdiamond.com called "Discotheque"
which Jack said is the sounds of 60s discotheques.
Easy listening in the Big Easy
Chuck
--- DJJimmyBee@aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 10/3/0 4:15:48 PM, chuckmk@yahoo.com wrote:
> >Which brings to mind the question I have often wondered. What
> was the first Disco record???
> > this could be the subject of a lotta debate, but for me its The
> > Delfonics
> > version of "Hurt So Bad" from '68 on the "La La Means I Love
