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Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 11:44:08 -0400
From: "Br. Cleve" <bcleve@pop.tiac.net>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Towa of Bebel
At 12:35 PM -0500 8/10/00, Mimi Mayer wrote:
>>Bebel Gilberto's new release
>>"Tanto Tempo" transports me to Brasil with every
>>track...
>She may be touring the States to promo the CD. Anyone know if this
>is happening?
yes.......she played in Boston a month ago. I don't know if she's still on
tour however. I missed the show due to other commitments, unfortunately,
but heard that she was fantastic. Weirdly, she was on the bill with a hip
hop act opening for her, which I believe was true for the whole tour. Most
folks said it didn't work.
br cleve
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Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 14:16:38 -0400
From: Ross Orr <mambofrenzy@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Design Record Label
For a while I was attempting to construct a "family tree" of all the
different budget labels, since they are notorious for recycling the
same tracks under different brand names. This plan fell apart when I
realized that the companies even seemed to steal tracks from each
other. . .
But as far as I was able to tell, Design seemed to be part of the
Pickwick empire, which also included Bravo, Grand Prix, and Stereo
Spectrum.
Eventually I found budget label LPs too frustrating to waste much
time on. But every once in a long while there will be something so
*totally* wigged out on a budget label that it's worth having. When
you find yourself in some thrift store where the LPs are 50 cents,
that is the place to indulge your curiosity about budget label disks.
. . otherwise, save your money.
cheers,
--Ross
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|| Ann Arbor, Michigan USA
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Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 14:15:44 -0400
From: Ross Orr <mambofrenzy@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: (exotica) What ruined music?
Thanks to some really thoughtful comments by Manuel and Mo, I'm
de-lurking briefly to add a few thoughts on this thread. . .
I have to reject any theory that people are becoming stupider, more
debased, and less creative, or whatever. The need to express yourself
is a universal in all times and all places--but the specific tools
and techniques that attract a talented young person are always
changing and evolving.
Right now, tools involving computers and electronics have a great
deal of novelty and glamor, and are attracting many people. Some of
them are using them in predictable and unimaginative ways, and some
are getting bogged down in technicalities. But it's totally
unwarranted to say that none of them have the discipline or passion
of previous generations of musicians.
In broad terms I'd say this new technology is putting more of an
emphasis on rhythm and sound timbres--and less on songwriting,
melody, and the craft of playing a particular instrument.
If you want, you can see that as a terrible loss for music. I would
just mention that those earlier preoccupations come out of a fairly
stratified musical world. Maybe you have specialist songwriters who
don't perform themselves. You need bass players and drummers willing
to plod along behind you playing fairly uninteresting background
lines. You have somebody else working as the sound engineer and the
producer, with the technical skills to bring just the right
atmosphere to the recording.
What I see as happening is that all these roles are being more and
more absorbed by the "artist" (in much the same way that desktop
publishing made many people into typographers and printers who never
would have performed those roles before computers). Today it's
getting more possible for a single person to be the songwriter, the
singer, the lead instrumentalist, the rhythm section, and the sound
engineer. It's a shift from specialists to generalists.
This may have some good effects and some bad effects, and we can
speculate on what those might be. But you have to respect that those
are *all* crafts which involve aesthetic judgment (for good or ill)
and careful technique. The are not any less valid than being able to
play the saxophone well.
We do not yet have a lot of vocabulary for talking about how
beautifully someone layers their samples. . . but perhaps in 30
years, college music appreciation courses will be playing ComEd's
_The Impossible World_ for their students, pointing out the
almost-subliminal sounds in the mix. . .
And finally, to stick my neck out in a really specific way. . .
anyone who thinks that contemporary loop-based music is all soulless
and evil, please buy a copy of 9 Lazy 9's _The Herb_ (Shadow
Records). This is a disc which I have listened to at least once a
week for about four years: Lazy, loping, and very sexy music. A real
test of any art is asking yourself, "would adding, changing, or
taking away any part of this make it better?" That is one CD which
may seem simple, but in the end you really can't imagine altering a
note.
cheers,
--Ross
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|| Ann Arbor, Michigan USA
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Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 14:39:01 -0400 (EDT)
From: delicado@cheerful.com
Subject: (exotica) Wildwood, NJ
Hi,
I'm thinking of taking a little trip down to Wildwood, NJ in the next couple of weeks.
I remember someone on the list talking about this place as a cool place to see some 50s/60s Americana. Can anyone who knows this place maybe email me off-list with more info - e.g. places to stay, other recommendations?
I did a song search for ôMoon Riverö and came up with 1967 matches!
And speaking of "Moon River"àthe version on the Delfi comp ôShots in the Darkö by Nan Vernon is very interesting. JetSetAir played it on there show a few weeks ago. But what was up with the huge audio gap between the English and Japanese version?
Domenic
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Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 14:38:05 -0700 (PDT)
From: chuck <chuckmk@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: (exotica) CDDB and Moon River
I think the Shots version is just great. That whole comp rocks except for
the full length BR Cleve which lifts you off into outer space.
I feel like hearing this as soon as I get home, if I can find it.
