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exotica-digest        Wednesday, August 2 2000        Volume 02 : Number 772



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Fwd: (exotica)Promo items (was napster)
(exotica) some questions
Fwd: (exotica) Napster...
(exotica) Thievery
RE: (exotica) Napster...
(exotica) Got some records from an aquaintance
Re: (exotica) Thievery
(exotica) Tiki Thanx
Fw: Message Bounce: Fw: (exotica) Napster...
Re: (exotica) Napster...
(exotica) Playlist for "Mondo Bongos" August 2, 2000
Re: (exotica) Thievery
Re: (exotica) Thievery
(exotica) Martin Denny MP3 festival
Re: (exotica) Napster...
Re: (exotica) More Napster
Re: (exotica) Thievery
(exotica) Omni Hut -- Tiki Restaurant -- News
Re: (exotica) some questions (Tipsy)
Re: (exotica) another view
Re: (exotica) napster
Re: (exotica) Omni Hut -- Tiki Restaurant -- News
(exotica) Soul Trade and more Italian reprints
(exotica) A tangent from your Tan Gent...
(exotica) Exotica perfume
(exotica) more questions, somewhat off topic
Re: (exotica) more questions, somewhat off topic
Re: (exotica) more questions, somewhat off topic

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Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 09:47:56 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Domenic Ciccone" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Fwd: (exotica)Promo items (was napster)

[e-mail] wrote:
> Next time you buy a copy of a CD that says "For Promotion Only"
> or words to  that effect, just remembert that the person who >recorded the music receives
> NO monetary compensation, but the record company weasel who stole
> the CD's  from the label library gets thousands of dollars annually >due to the kickback he has in place

In Boston, a huge radio market, the used record stores are full of promotional items. Most of them unopened with the shrinkwrap still on them. Especially the soundtrack section with all those RYKO reissues. And I posted a few months ago about a store full of Capitol releases. Somebody cleaned out a closet.

Right now because of station policy/politics/personalities I can not  solicit labels for items to play on my radio show. If I did and got "caught" I would lose the show.
Purchasing promo items has been a (slightly) inexpensive way to get music and at least these CD's, in my case, are used for their original intent.  Airplay. But it really is a darn shame that this is happening. Plus I've heard that record companies are really stingy with promo items.

As for a previous post about asskissing and posting playlists: I've asked myself that question many times. Because it does seem like asskissing. I've even given some of these artists, who are not in my listening area, tapes of my show so they can hear there stuff "on the radio". Folks like "Daves True Story", "Seks Bomba" and Astroslut". Plus these folks gave personally gave me the promo items and I want to show that there CD's are but to good use. the way that I llok at it? In the age of Britney and InSync these folks need the encouragment and support to follow their muse and keep on going.

Domenic Ciccone
"Martinis with Mancini" WJUL 91.5FM FridayÆs 6-9AM EST
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Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 11:53:33 -0500
From: "Robert Blahut, Jr." <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) some questions

hi gang,
i only hope that the HUGE napster debate has subsided, it was interesting
but not really holding my interest for as long as it went on.
the first question i have, and i am wondering if anyone can answer this for
me.  i have a tape (mixed) that a fair portion of came from a picture disk
entitled "angel dust"  i don't have any song titles or artist's names  - -
is anyone on the list familiar with this album?  it seems to be a
collection of music from biker exploitation movies,  i would like a list of
artists and song titles.

second,  i am crazy about tipsy's "trip tease"  what other titles are
available by tipsy?  there was some discussion a little while back about
some thing called "swedish erotica mix"  where can i find it?  also, i
think someone mentioned that tipsy did a remix of some lords of acid.
where can i get my hands on this?  i need it on cd because that (or
casette) is the only way i have available for playback at the present time.
okay, thanks for indulging me,
robert




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Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 10:05:00 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Domenic Ciccone" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Fwd: (exotica) Napster...

[e-mail] wrote:

> Since a certain type of homicide only leads to six months in
> jail, one
> could think that in Italy today it is less risky to kill someone
> and steal
> a cd from his hands, rather than asking a friend to have a
> copy...

Would that be catching your wife and her lover in bed??

They used to give you a cigar and pat you on the back....now you have to spend six months in jail?

Things are really going downhill in the 'ol country.

Domenico




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Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 13:21:58 -0400
From: alan  zweig <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Thievery

It surprised me.  A half page ad for the upcoming Thievery Corporation CD
in  the local music rag.  Who knew these guys were big enough for such a
big ad?
And while we're on that kind of music, what can you tell me about
"Harpsichord 2000" or Valvola?

Nat



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Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 13:56:42 -0400
From: alan  zweig <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Napster...

At 12:28 PM 7/31/00 -0400, Rajnai, Charles, NNAD wrote:
>As a musician I will sit and play for an hour at home, and not expect to get
>money for it ever.  If I recorded something and it made it to napster and
>halfway around the world to some 19 year old's dorm party, I would be pretty
>psyched about it.

Thank you, thank you   Finally a musician saying that.  In reward, I will
go to my local record retailer this week and see if they have a Brimstones
CD for me to buy all sealed and new.
My antipathy towards musicians, songwriters and music publishers comes not
from the Napster controversy but from the exorbitant fees they sometimes
charge if you want to include their music in your film.
Yes it's true that often they give it away for free but even when the
musicians give it to you, sometimes you still have to pay someone else.
It's greed.  Nothing else.  Wanting to get paid for your work is a good
thing but wanting to get paid A LOT is greed.
I say it like this.  If you went to a bar and shot a scene from your film
and on the TV above the bar, they happened to be playing a film that I once
made, I'd think ""Cool.  Nice coincidence".
If however you told me, "You could get paid for that", I'd probably think
about it.  And if you told me "You could get paid A LOT", suddenly
everything would change.

Sorry for the rant.  I'm sure I've said all this before.  But Charlie
Brimstone inspired me to do it again.  That was so cool to read that.
That's the way it should be.  That isn't the way it is.  For that reason, I
support anything that levels the playing field a bit.

Nat



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Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 11:29:36 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Domenic Ciccone" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Got some records from an aquaintance

There is this fellow, Joe, who does a 50Æs radio show here in central Mass on WICN Worcester. And heÆs in the estate auction business too so he has lots of records.

My timing was great a few Saturday mornings ago when I dropped in and found him going thru his records in his warehouse. He knows me because IÆve been helping out with pledge drives at WICN and his show for a while.

I got a chance to digitize a couple of Shorty Roger LPsÆ and gave him a copy of that. I offered to digitize some of his favorite hard to find LPÆs (for me and him) but heÆs not really interested.  HeÆs not really into CDÆs and for years only played LPÆs exclusively on his show. Hope my CDr of the Shory Rogers changes his mind.

Well while there I was putting together a pile of records to ask if I could borrow. I stuck with stuff he would not like and does not play.  Too Latin or percussion based. Space Age pop stuff.

He was really wary about lending me stuff. Because he felt he would never see it again. So Joe went thru what I picked out and actually gave me some records instead of borrowing them under the condition that I donÆt  ôbother him for a whileö.  HeÆs really a curmudgeony fellow in an endearing way really. Going thru the records I would hold up a LP and I would ask him questions about people like Ann Richards and get the greatest comments....öwhen she was young she was married to Stan Kenton. He was a real prick. DonÆt you know ANYTHING??ö HeÆs like a rude Yoda or something.

But it was worth being humble and and an eagerbeaver to learn. Or maybe it was asskissing? Maybe. HereÆs some stuff I got.

Great Scott Shirley Scott Trio with Orchestra conducted be Oliver Nelson. (Nice "Shot in the Darkö on this)
Pete Rugolo and his Orchestra An Adventure in Sound-REEDS
Pete Rugolo Music for Out of Space
Enoch Light Lets Dance Bossa Nova (includes dance instructions)
Edmundo Ros Latin Boss Senor Ros
Frank Chacksfield The Great TV Themes
Dick Shory Music to Break and Mood.  (mentioned on the list recently)
Tak Shinko Brass and Bamboo
Lew Davies Strange Interlude (Command)
Buddy Morrow Double Impact
Peggy Lee Latin a La Lee
Shorty Rogers Meets Tarzan (Played one cutàthis is great!)
Mary Gold Sounds Unlimited
Hal Mooney Woodwinds and Percussion
The Jazz Combo from I Want To Live
Gerald Wilson Toredo Impressions in Jazz..The Golden Sword
Dick Shory Supercussion
About 3 Dick Hyman Command recordsà..
And 2 Esquival LPs! My first ones! He had another 3 and if I threw them in the pile I would have had them. He really does not like him. I have all this stuff on CD and donÆt really know why I even but them into my pile but they are nice to have, I guess.


IÆve been talking to WICN for a few years about doing a ôloungeö show and they are tweaking the schedule for this fall. They seemed a little more receptive this time. It would be perfect to have one after Joe's show. They have so much Jazz on the schedule and know they need something else on but are not sure what. And they are finally going on the net this fall. If any of you are WICN listeners or supports please give them a call and help me out.

Domenic Ciccone
"Martinis with Mancini" WJUL 91.5FM FridayÆs 6-9AM EST
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Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 14:32:07 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Thievery

<< It surprised me.  A half page ad for the upcoming Thievery Corporation CD
in  the local music rag.  Who knew these guys were big enough for such a
big ad?
And while we're on that kind of music, what can you tell me about
"Harpsichord 2000" or Valvola? >>

I think the Thievery cult has really grown in the past year. You read about
them in the press all the time. I've had their new one, "The Mirror
Conspiracy," for nearly two months now, and I love it. I was never a fan of
their debut, but this one is smooth.

The "Harpsichord 2000" compilation is awesome. I reviewed it in the last
issue of Cool & Strange. If you like a mix of lounge and electronics (in a
Stereolab-sorta way), you'll love it. It made me want to go out and find
albums from most of the artists.

- --Rod
www.hitchmagazine.com


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Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 14:57:43 -0400
From: "Rajnai, Charles, NNAD" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Tiki Thanx

Thank You to all the listees who helped out in my search for the =
'right'
tiki lights.  After many phone calls and some e-digging, and some help =
from
some nice exoticats, I found the ones I have been looking for.  They =
were at
Party City, and I got the last 2 sets for the season.  They are =
clearing the
shelves for Halloween already, sheech!  I also managed to get two =
citronella
tiki candles, which I will never light in respect to the tiki god, and =
a
pack of 3 paper-accordion-unfolding-type table centerpieces.  Under =
$30, you
betcha. =20
=20
This was almost as cool as a good record score, which I haven't had in =
quite
a while....
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visit=20
THE BRIMSTONES Eternal Surf and Garage Damnation=20
at http://www.brimstones.com <http://www.brimstones.com/> =20
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Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 15:59:05 -0400
From: "Peter Risser" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Fw: Message Bounce: Fw: (exotica) Napster...

> Sorry about this rant to the rest of the list, but nothing gets me
> angrier
> than pure and simple stupidity and illogic as displayed by bumpy (on the
> head).  I dion't mind a debate but when someone ties up this list with
> pure
> garbage as this guy he deserves to be thrown off.
>
> Ashley


  Except folks who answer these with truly inane, totally outrageous,
 hyperbolic and utterly illogical responses, followed up with moronic and
 childish personal attacks.  That really gets me goat.  Those people deserve
 to be thrown off the list AND stomped in the head with a boot.  Bonk bonk
on
 the head.

 Peter





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Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 15:59:56 -0400
From: "Peter Risser" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Napster...

> I personally have few ethical qualms of making tapes or CD-Rs of
> *out-of-print*, rare albums for friends. Likewise, Bump, I would have no
> problem with you taping say, Martin Denny's "A Taste of India" sitar
> album (never been on CD, probably never will) for your friend while a
> used copy sits at a record shop for $25.

I find this argument to be funny as well.  As if, just because it's out of
print, well, it's not protected by copyright.  Sorry, it's just as illegal
to copy this for your friend as it is a nice Scamp reissue.  Sure, I guess
nobody would be affected... Except if Scamp or some new Scamp-like service,
wanted to reissue it and paid the license fees.  Then you would have copied
it already, and gypped them out of the money they might have paid to the
artists.

I think.

You see where I'm going?

I think it's curious that this is primarily a "moral" argument and not a
legal one.

Peter



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Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 16:42:59 -0400
From: "telstar" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Playlist for "Mondo Bongos" August 2, 2000

"Mondo Bongos" can be heard every Wednesday mornings at 9 on CFRU 93.3fm in
Guelph, Ontario, Canada. Comments & questions welcome.

Now available via RealAudio
http://www.uoguelph.ca/~cfru-fm/

Aavikko - Alas Volgaa 12"
Sergio Mendes & Brasil '66 - Mais Que Nada "Herb Albert Presents..."
La Dusseldorf - Rheinata 7"
Kraftwerk - Showroom Dummies "Trans-Europe Express"
Kraftwerk - The Model "The Man-Machine"
Eric Random - 23 Skidoo 7"
Bruce Haack - Word Game "The Electric Lucifer"
Pierre Henry/Michel Colombier - Teen Tonic "Messe Pour Le Temps Present"
[unknown] - Blowin' Bubbles "Deep Throat" ost
Morning 40 Federation - Bottom Shelf Blues "You My Brother"
Andy Prieboy - Cannot Not "Livin' Lounge"
Jess Franco - Keep Cool, Candy "The Manacoa Experience"
Barry Adamson - The Big Bamboozle "Oedipus Schmoedipus"
23 Skidoo - Coup 12"

Thanks for reading...

Allan




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Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 18:34:16 -0400
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Thievery

> Who knew these guys were big enough for such a big ad?
>
> I think the Thievery cult has really grown in the past year. You read about
> them in the press all the time.

The latest issue of Spin has a good article on the Thievery Corporation - one
page of informative, interesting, and positive text, another full page featuring
a photo of Rob Garza and Eric Hilton.

Quite the contrast from the cover band of this September issue, which features
the band Creed.

Oh well, win some, lose some.

Vern



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Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 21:33:20 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Thievery

In a message dated 8/1/0 6:36:59 PM, [e-mail] wrote:

>The latest issue of Spin has a good article on the Thievery Corporation

As a mobile DJ I use their (Thievery Corporation) DJ Kicks-Mix recording as a
cocktail hour/crowd warmer. Its really mesmerizing and allows me to schmooze
and pass out my card while the guests arrive...Thought you'd care...JB


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Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 23:14:00 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Martin Denny MP3 festival

Question:
Who makes more money from putting out Martin Denny reissues?  Mr. Denny or a
full time employee of the company that puts out said reissues?  Is this whole
debate really about personnal financial interests or respecting and honoring
(with payment) the achievements of artists?

PS. Rumor has it that someone has put out a "hit" for someone to "whack" Tiki
B.


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Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 00:06:33 -0400
From: "Peter Risser" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Napster...

> 1. Scenario One: Let's say "this friend of mine" is looking through the
mp3
> newsgroups on usenet. He is stunned when he finds, in
> alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.1960s, the entire "Nuggets" box set. All there
ripe
> for the downloading. He realizes he knows some of the songs, but not all,
> and besides, he'd like to hear more. So he downloads it all and burns it
> onto CD. There -- about $60 worth of music on CD-Rs. And the more he
listens
> to it, the more he likes it. So the next day he goes to a store and buys a
> "Pebbles" comp CD. And then he realizes that he can't really live without
> all the cool info and art that really comes with "Nuggets," so... he buys
> the set anyway. (One of the first things he ever bought on Ebay,
actually.)
> New customer for Rhino; new psych/garage rock fan. Would he have bought
the
> CD set from hearing only a few sound samples on Cdnow? Most probably not.

Just so everyone knows, and I don't think Benito is talking about me, but
this EXACT thing happened to me.  I downloaded the ENTIRE Nuggets box set
from Usenet and loved it so much that I asked for it for my next birthday.
Sadly, I'm sure not many of the original artists saw a damn red cent
considering the type of record company jockeying that went on back then...
I didn't buy Pebbles yet by the way...  Maybe if someone posts that I can
listen and judge it too.

Peter



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Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 00:10:53 -0400
From: "Peter Risser" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) More Napster

> In the first place the record industry is not a monopoly. A monopoly is
the
> exclusive control of of a business. There are several major labels and
> hundreds of independent labels, not to mention those musicians who chose
to
> record and release music themselves.

I'm sorry, I should have been more clear.  Record companies themselves are
not monopolies, but they do practice monopolistic practices when it comes to
the distribution of the music they hold, often to the detriment of fans and
the artists whose output they control.


> Secondly, bands/performers license the rights to themselves to t-shirt and
> poster companies making a lisencing fee and a royalty per unit. So payment
is
> made to artists in the same way as by record companies.

Right.  But the record companies take back all the royalties from records to
recoup the advance, pay for promos, stamps, mixing, and so on and so on.
Usually the artists end up with very little from the actual sales of the
music, or sometimes, if they only sell, say, 50,000 copies, they still owe
the companies.


> You make out record companies to be the big villian in all this. If it
wasn't
> for record companies Mr. Risser, there wouldn't be the music you'd be
talking
> about on this list. And if it wasn't for record companies there wouldn't
be
> the catalog of songs to download from Napster.

You are so wrong.  Please visit mp3.com and see all the music that is being
produced and distributed without the help of the record companies.


> So before you make, to use your words from an earlier e-mail to me, "truly
> inane, totally outrageous,hyperbolic and utterly illogical responses"
please
> get your facts straight.

They are, chief.

Thanks.

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Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 00:49:35 -0500
From: cheryl <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Thievery

alan zweig wrote:

> And while we're on that kind of music, what can you tell me about
> "Harpsichord 2000" or Valvola?

Gee, someone hasn't been reading their copies of "Cool & Strange
Music"!!  I reviewed the Valvola last year - it's good, although not in
the league of Montefiori Cocktail.  And they're featured on the
Harpsichord 2000 compilation (on which my favourite track is the Stereo
Total).  I would call Valvola's music electronica-influenced psychedelic
lounge ballads - that pretty much sums it up.

cheryl


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Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 02:11:03 -0500
From: "Paul Wages" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Omni Hut -- Tiki Restaurant -- News

James wrote:

> So lets talk about music and tiki bars!

Seconded.

Awhile ago, we discussed a cool family-owned Polynesian restaurant in the
Nashville area.  I had a chance to visit the place and it turned out to be =
a
very friendly, family-owned tiki joint.  You can read more about it for now
on James' Tiki Bar Review Pages.

Anyway, I just found out the restaurant almost burnt down and is currently
closed!  And I thought many of you would appreciate the update.

Here is an article from the local newspaper:

Fire ravages popular restaurant in Smyrna
By Lisa Marchesoni / Staff writer

SMYRNA

Fire which extensively damaged Omni Hut will keep the restaurant closed for
two to three months for restoration, authorities said last week.

The July 15, fire apparently started in the attic area above the kitchen,
according to Fire Chief Bill Culbertson, who said Police Officer Gretchen
Woodruff spotted the blaze at about 11:30 p.m. that night while on patrol o=
n
South Lowry Street. The officer immediately notified firefighters.

"Firefighters did an excellent job containing it," Culbertson said,
explaining that crews contained the fire to the kitchen, roof and back part
of the building. The dining area and front sustained only heavy
smoke damage.

Cause of the fire remains under investigation, he said. The staff had left
about 30 minutes before Woodruff
discovered the fire.

Operator Polly Walls estimates the restoration could be completed within 60
to 90 days.

"We're trying to do as much as we can as quickly as we can," Walls said.

Wall's=92 father, Jim, opened the Omni Hut Polynesian restaurant in 1960.
Daughter Polly Walls grew up at the restaurant, as did customers who come t=
o
the restaurant from all over Middle Tennessee.

"We=92re feeding fifth generations in some families," Polly Walls said.

Smoke heavily damaged the Polynesian decor in the dining room, destroyed
kitchen equipment and killed nine fish in the large built-in aquarium,
including 10-year-old Big White and 5-year-old Big Orange. One tiny quarry
catfish survived.

"I think he's going to make it," Walls said.

A new kitchen will be required in the renovation, she said.

The restaurant=92s crew was able to salvage a freezer of frozen food but lost
canned and refrigerated food. A shipment scheduled to arrive Tuesday was
postponed.

Walls expressed gratitude to Woodruff who was alert and spotted the fire an=
d
firefighters who contained the blaze.

She says she's taking the "islanders' approach" to the fire.

"Fire is a time of birth and renewal," Walls said. "She's (Omni Hut) still
got a lot of life left in her."



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Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 01:50:20 -0500
From: "Paul Wages" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) some questions (Tipsy)

Robert wrote:

> second,  i am crazy about tipsy's "trip tease"  what other titles are
> available by tipsy?  there was some discussion a little while back about
> some thing called "swedish erotica mix"  where can i find it?  also, i
> think someone mentioned that tipsy did a remix of some lords of acid.
> where can i get my hands on this?  i need it on cd because that (or

The "Swedish Erotica Mix" was a remix of Pulp's "This Is Hardcore".  It is
on the CD single.  The single is out of print so you'll have to buy it used.
You might want to try www.gemm.com.  It is an absolutely incredible re-mix
and definetely worth the effort.  I'd recommend this to anybody.  I heard it
on Napster and have been keeping an eye out for the actual CD though I
haven't had any luck.

There is a Tipsy re-mix on Bungalow's Peter Thomas 2 CD set "Warp Back To
Earth".  This is a good set with the first CD being remixes and the second
being the original tracks.  There are also remixes by Stereolab, John
McEntire, Saint Etienne, and other cool people.  This shouldn't be too hard
to find.

Tipsy's re-mix of "Spank My Booty" is a HUGE improvement over the original.
But the Lords of Acid are a terrible, terrible, terrible band and the
original "Spank My Booty" is just as bad.  I would concentrate on finding
this down last.  Tipsy Dave even said they just did if for money.

There is also a Tipsy re-mix on a AtaTak's Charles Wilp remix album.  I
don't know much about this except it recieved some praise from list members
awhile back. I've been meaning to buy this.

I think a few Tipsy goodies can be had on the Asphodel web-site.  Check out
the compilations -- particularly "Asphodelic".  If I recall correctly, they
were pretty cheap.

You may want to check out DJ Food's "Kaleidoscope" which is the only CD of
this type which I've enjoyed as much as Trip Tease.

What else?

- ---
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Chamblee, GA USA
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Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 10:25:22 +0200
From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) another view

[e-mail] wrote:

> What I find interesting about the whole Napster phenomena is that
> millions of people are so willing to do something that is 'officially
> illegal. .... to many, downloading napster files is just as acceptable
> as regularly driving 5 mile over the speed limit.

:-) ?

Mo




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Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 10:50:47 +0200
From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) napster

"Br. Cleve" wrote:

> Promos are a recoupable expense, charged back to the artist. Mechanical
> royalties are paid on CD's that are sold legitimately. Promo CD's have no
> bar codes, so they can not be scanned into a register, and cannot be
> tracked. ASCAP etc residuals are paid for performance, i.e. radio play,
> used in a movie or TV commercial etc.

Looks like there are some slight differences between how these things are handled
in America and here. The German GEMA pays the artist for each pressing of a record
AND for TV/radioplay. In case of indie artists, who usually don't get so much
airplay, the money from the pressings is the major part. In detail it works like
this: The record company must pay the GEMA almost a dollar per CD it presses, the
GEMA gives 85% of it to the artist, that is the writer of the song. The cheque for
the artist usually arrives sometime before Christmas as an often very welcome
surprise.

Still the GEMA is often criticized, as it is kind of big and complicated and hard
to survey; I'm sure it has it's dark sides. Still I supported it against attempts
to create an "alternative GEMA", as was tried by some Indie labels in the 80s,
because I think only a united strong organization, that is accepted on the
political parkett like the GEMA can protect artists rights in the long run.

In fact nobody mentioned that not long ago the internet was seen by many as a
chance to distribute music directly from the musician to the listener. I still
think this is true and should be done, but only if there is a fair way of paying
the work of the involved artists and webdistributors. I'm sure music for everybody
would become much cheaper than it is today, especially when I read those posts here
about CD prices in part of the world outside Euro/US/Can...

Mo




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Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 10:52:35 +0200
From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Omni Hut -- Tiki Restaurant -- News

Paul Wages wrote:

> James wrote:
>
> > So lets talk about music and tiki bars!
>
> Seconded.

A while ago when posting about tiki bars I always sooner or later got one "let's
talk about music" in return. What has changed?

Mo




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Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 12:49:00 +0200
From: Dj Batman <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Soul Trade and more Italian reprints

this afternoon I talked on the phone with Mariella Reitano of Soul Trade.
They will be releasing Aperitivo vol.3 compilation in september and they
are willing to have some cds available as digital downloads on selected
sites. I will help her putting some of that stuff online this autumn,
probably putting Aperitivo vol.1 & 2 on sale through http://www.emusic.com
or something like that. Expect some free downloads, of course!
She mentioned a mysterious project about some other Italian composers/film
music stuff (I will only learn more at the end of this month...!) and then
she gave me great news: Soul Trade owns the Vedette catalogue.
Vedette is a 1960/1970 label that was into italian pop music, but ended
doing lots of exotic stuff.
Armando Sciascia and his Phase 6 Superstereo imprint (a sort of local
imitation of "Phase 4" :-)))) had some really cool titles in early 1970s.
I have found some of them in markets and I always look for more...
actually, with a friend of mine, I was willing to repint some tracks but
coulnd't find who was the copyright owner and/or had the masters.
She is obviously interested in reprinting some of these tracks, but the
problem is that for some of them the masters are lost, for some other there
is just a vinyl copy an so on.
She even discovered she has the rights of one song written by UMBERTO ECO
(yes, the guy who wrote "The name of the rose") and this is pretty weird.
Too bad that the master seems lost, too.
Finally, we talked about Napster and Mariella - even she isn't really the
computer type - seems to share my positions. There are a lot of Napster
users sharing copies of Flabby tracks, and of course Mambo Italiano is the
most traded. Soul Trade is also willing to give some free downloads, but
that will happen of certain authorized sites, not on Napster in any
truncated/damaged form.
Mariella never used Napster but she thinks that such systems are ok when
there is a limited exchange of rare/out of print/live stuff etc.
Anyway, she might join one of the legal actions against Napster soon.

That's all from your reporter in sunny Italy!


bye,
Nicola (Dj Batman) Battista

"Every artist is a cannibal, every poet is a thief"
(Bono)



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Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 08:19:22 -0400
From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) A tangent from your Tan Gent...

>If I recorded something and it made it to napster and
> >halfway around the world to some 19 year old's dorm party, I would be pretty
> >psyched about it.

Cute anecdote (so stop reading now if you wish to read about my opinions
about Napster, because they aren't here) paraphrased from Max Wilk's book
"Wit and Wisdom of Hollywood", which, contrary to what you might think, is
a rather long book:

Max Steiner was recording a soundtrack for a film.  During the recording a
fellow asked for a dub of that day's session.  He then took that and rigged
Steiner's radio (while he was detained by others in on the plot) so the dub
could play through the radio.  Steiner came home with the others and one of
the co-plotters, during a conversation, turned the radio on.  Steiner
stopped talking and was amazed to hear his own work being "broadcast".

"What is that?", he asked.
"Just the radio", one of the fellows said.
"But, I just WROTE that!", he yelled.

"He nearly had a fit before we let him in on the gag", said one of the
practical jokers.

Quite the length to go for a gag, no?

Brian Phillips





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Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 07:57:09 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Mimi Mayer)
Subject: (exotica) Exotica perfume

There must be a fragrance called Exotica, right? There is, described as, "a
combination of exotic florals such as Oriental lily, lotus, ylang ylang
plus mango, sandalwood and our own musk blend." Tickle your nose with
Exotica by ordering a sample from Dusty Rose Perfumery,
http://www.efn.org/~perfume.

Mimi




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Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 07:51:03 -0500
From: "Robert Blahut, Jr." <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) more questions, somewhat off topic

would anyone on the list (and feel free to email me off list with this)  be
willing to answer some computer questions for me?

i should, in the next week or so, receive a new imac computer.  i would
like to buy a CD-RW (i think)  i don't know the difference between CD-R and
CD-RW.  if i were to get one, would i be able to convert my casettes to
CDs?  would i need additional hardware ?  if so, what would i need ?  i
have hours and hours of grateful dead and zappa bootlegs tapes and i would
like to put them on a more permanent medium.  if anyone would be so kind as
to answer these questions for me, would you mind if i picked your brain
with some other computer questions ?

also, no luck so far finding that swedish erotica mix single,  anyone
willing to trade for something? - - i don't have much exotica to offer,
and, well, in view of the recent napster discussion on this list,  i am a
little bit afraid to ask anyone if they are willing to make a tape of it
but if you are willing, perhaps we could work something out.
peace, love, recycle,
robert




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Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 09:01:24 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) more questions, somewhat off topic

<< i should, in the next week or so, receive a new imac computer.  i would
like to buy a CD-RW (i think)  i don't know the difference between CD-R and
CD-RW.  if i were to get one, would i be able to convert my casettes to
CDs? >>

CD-RWs are generally cheaper than CD-Rs, but you can't burn music onto them.

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Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 10:11:07 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) more questions, somewhat off topic

<< would anyone on the list (and feel free to email me off list with this)  be
 willing to answer some computer questions for me?
in a nutshell...

<>

check out this site - it's a must for anybody getting into this:

http://www.fadden.com/cdrfaq/

<<if i were to get one, would i be able to convert my casettes to
 CDs?>>

Yes, definitely!  Be prepared for some "growing pains" though - you most
likely will end up with several discs that end up in the trash.  Or serve
your guests drinks on them - they call 'em "coasters".  :))

<<would i need additional hardware ?>>

You'll need a CD burner of course .  If there is any chance you will want to
"get creative" with your music - make your own seamless mixes, etc, I
strongly recommend the computer based type of burner rather than the stand
alone "stereo component" model.  That means you need a decent soundcard too.
Using your computer to make a CD-R is a far and away more powerful tool.  On
the other hand, it is much more time consuming.  I think the "stand alone"
type is like making a tape - hit record and presto - it records the disc "on
the fly" while you listen.

<<if so, what would i need ?>>

other than the CD burner you really don't need anything else.  If you do use
your PC, you will need to connect your stereo to the soundcard's INput.  But
that is no biggie.  Most likely, you'll reach a point where you want to
explore some of the many WAV editing software programs available.  You do get
some software with your Burner, but it's pretty limited as to what it can do.
 Not it terms of recording basics - you'll still be able to record your Zappa
tapes, just not as many extra features.






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