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Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 23:46:06 -0500
From: brian@phyres.lan.mcgill.ca
Subject: (exotica) Re: exotica-digest V2 #587
I'll take the bait on this one Nat:
> > So I think moving
> >forward, going ahead and combining elements to create new music is a good
> >thing. My ears just have to let it in.
> I think one reason I don't listen to much of this "new" music is because I
> haven't really heard much that sounds like it was made in that spirit....
> You don't get chunks of sampled riffs; all you get are blips and
> bleeps in the midst of beats. So if anyone would like to guess what I'm
> referring to and to provide a nice list of stuff I would be happy with, I'd be
> happy with that.
I think I know what you mean. Maybe the best example is that piece on
Electronic Lounge that relies heavily on the Yma Sumac clip to make it
recognizeable, and while fun, just doesn't last multiple listenings. I could add
that the whole remix concept has probably not helped things much as I was
beginning to feel at one point that this was simply a way to avoid the need to
create new. Also, it is hard to be true to the spirit of another era yet
still include something of the present. All in all a big challenge.
This being said, I think it is certainly possible and you have to look no further
than Combustible Edison to see some of the best and most original examples
of how to make this idea work. This should be the working standard of what to
strive for and its been some time since I could say anything has
matched this standard. I was excited about a few recent finds and I
think if you listen to The Bobby Hughes Experience, Mo'Horizons,
Rainer Truby Trio (and a few more I've yet to find) you may, as I
was, be pleasantly surprised at what is possible! the fact that
these recommendations were confirmed by Br Cleve
(with a few more additions) should be enough to make you stop
and think... Of course I could be misreading your comments but
hows about I send you a tape to get your opinion. Of course you
may never forgive me if you like it but... I have Will listening to The
Bobby Hughes Experience this weekend so we'll see what he
thinks as well.
> I think the other reason I don't buy many of them is because
basically
> there are a couple of stores here who carry stuff like that and if I wanted
> them, the process would involve going to those stores weekly and asking
> "You got any more of that stuff you know I like?" Or frequenting CDNow.
I remember trying out a few of those techno stores, oh you know them... every city has them; Lots of turntables/vinyl, most of their stock on the wall and everyone in the place (staff and clients) up on exactly what is the latest thing in the London/NY/etc. clubs and little else beyond. I usually
began by asking about some of the new electronic things I'd heard, mainly on
the A-Musik label as no other stores around seemed to be getting them All I got was blank looks and a typical "what classification is it"? thrown back at me. I politelty would say elecronic but it wasn't enough. At that point they would either ask me more to be certain they weren't maybe
falling behind and missing out on a new thing, or else they tried to sell me something else. Needless to say, I haven't gone near these kind of places since, and I'm certain things have not xhanged!> I used to be like that but I haven't been for a while. Maybe when I get
> busier and richer - will this be the year?? - I'll move to that method of
> acquisition.
> Does anyone have some kinda explanation for this Now Sound/ E-Z soundtrack
> sampling phenomenon? (It's probably not as big as it seems to someone who
> doesn't pay that much attention to it.)
>
> It IS curious though, I must say. I hate to bring up "postmodernism" or
> Tarantino or Eno or Burroughs' cut-up technique or something about baby
> boomers but I just find it really really strange that this is happening.
>
> I'll leave y'all alone for the weekend now.
>
> Nat
>
Brian Karasick
Physical Planner
McGill University
Montreal, Canada
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