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Subject: exotica-digest V2 #593
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exotica-digest Wednesday, January 12 2000 Volume 02 : Number 593
In This Digest:
Re: (exotica) ha-ha or peculiar?
Re: (exotica) Wimoweh
Re: (exotica) Wimoweh
Re: (exotica) ha-ha or peculiar?
(exotica) New on the Space Age Pop Page
(exotica) F & T & C & D & R
Re: (exotica) Anita Kerr
Re: (exotica) guitar duet - Star Trek
Re: (exotica) CD Burners
(exotica) [obit] Bob McFadden
(exotica) More CD/Lp shopping...
(exotica) exotica survey and a little question...
Re: (exotica) [obit] Bob McFadden
(exotica) Re: Hawaiian
Re: (exotica) Re: exotica-digest V2 #590
Re: (exotica) Re: Schmalzwald
Re: (exotica) CD Burners
Re: (exotica) F & T & C & D & R
(exotica) Re: another burning idea (FWD)
(exotica) Eno
(exotica) Peter Tork
(exotica) Burning Project
(exotica) Educational Copyright
(exotica) Already Found Samples
(exotica) Kidney, fava beans and a Theremin
(exotica) Re: Sway
Re: (exotica) Educational Copyright
(exotica) wet/dry
(exotica) recent acquisitions
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Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 11:10:14 +0000
From: <Charles_Moseley/LON/Europe/MCKINSEY-EXTERNAL@MCKINSEY.COM>
Subject: Re: (exotica) ha-ha or peculiar?
Sorry Lou, that last post sounded a little bitter but it was meant as a
sensible suggestion.
Charlie
charles_moseley@mckinsey.com
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Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 11:20:38 -0000
From: Reader Geoff <G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Wimoweh
Paul Penna worte
Upon hearing Bert Kaempfert's "Swingin' Safari," a friend stated he thought
it was a ripoff of "Wimoweh." Anybody else get this impression?
All it makes me think of is "The Match Game."
Bert has a version of Wimoweh on His 'Swinging Safari' album and the two are
quite different. I'd recommend the album unreservedly BTW. Not a thing I'd
normally do with Bert (not even his Moog 2000 LP, but thats the only other
one that comes close).
El Maestro Con Queso
djcheesemaster@yahoo.com
grr@brighton.ac.uk
http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm
http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/
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Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 11:53:15 +0000
From: <Charles_Moseley/LON/Europe/MCKINSEY-EXTERNAL@MCKINSEY.COM>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Wimoweh
Bert Kaempfert has a moog record? Are you sure? Where? When? Show me! Tell
me more!
And yes, Swinging Safari is a cash-in African easy piece of dodgy ripoff
material meant to sound like wimoweh and all that.
Charlie
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Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 12:01:56 +0000
From: Robbie Baldock <rcb@easynet.co.uk>
Subject: Re: (exotica) ha-ha or peculiar?
Charles_Moseley/LON/Europe/MCKINSEY-EXTERNAL@MCKINSEY.COM wrote:
> Sorry Lou, that last post sounded a little bitter but it was meant as a
> sensible suggestion.
I think it is a sensible suggestion - it's one I've made in the past.
Robbie
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Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 06:51:55
From: Brad Bigelow <spaceagepop@earthlink.net>
Subject: (exotica) New on the Space Age Pop Page
Added today:
Long overdue biographies of Gershon Kingsley and Jean Jacques Perrey. Find
them at:
http://home.earthlink.net/~spaceagepop/whatsnew.htm
Brad
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Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 23:49:38 +1100
From: "Keith E. Lo Bue" <keith@lobue-art.com>
Subject: (exotica) F & T & C & D & R
>"Heavenly Sounds in Hi-Fi" from 1958 has been reissued under the limp name
>"Easy Listening Favorites"...for about $4 NEW!! Essential stuff, and in my
>opinion, the best they ever did.
>How's the recording on this, Keith? Agree with your opinion: it's their
>best. The prepared are melodic and gorgeous, not gimmicky. Is the cover
>photo from the original intact on the reissue? Thanks, Mimi
Mimi, the sound is fantastic...one of the most airy, warm recordings from
the '50's I've ever heard. But alas, all is not perfect, as the $4 price
tag meant they could leave off any trace of its former packaging/info.
Especially tragic since the original cover is, in my opinion, one of the
all-time greatest LP covers, period. No dates, no original images, no
nuthin'. Just $4 well spent on a fantastic recording.
And to "Lou" the "music fan(thanks for the cred)" who wrote:
****This is the worst CD I have ever listened to. The
insertion of various sundry instruments with
the piano, has the quality effect of playing a tuba
with a violin. The entire rendition of each
song was done at 1/2 speed the normal cadence that it
was originally written for.****
What a crock! This guy couldn't identify eerie beauty if it rolled over in
his bed. It's precisely the drawn tempos, the otherworldly juxtaposition of
twin pianos and celeste, and even the shocking (and loud!) inclusion of a
sine-wave generator as an accent in the middle of an etherial ballad, that
makes this one of the most--I'll say it again--etherial recordings ever
made. I'm convinced F&T's prep'd piano recordings came from the same lunar
recording studio as the one obviously frequented by early Slim Whitman and
Lucia Pamela. Mimi, if ya get the CD I'll send you a scan of the cover to
put in the jewel box!
Lastly, I've been burning CD's on my Philips CDR-870 (the first audio-only
model) for almost two years and it has been superb. Plus, it had the great
mistaken feature of being able to trick the mechanism into recording onto
cheap computer-grade CDR's, so if I keep my eyes out for specials/rebates, I
can score CD's for 19 cents each (no kidding!)...that even makes cassettes
seem exhorbitant!
Ciao,
Keith
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Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 08:13:34 EST
From: SLarry3595@aol.com
Subject: Re: (exotica) Anita Kerr
In a message dated 1/11/00 2:02:51 PM Eastern Standard Time,
dciccone@inspex.com writes:
<< Does anybody like her LP of Burt Bacharach covers? >>
I love this LP!!! It is out on cd avaliable from collectors choice music.
But, the cd is expensive, and does not sound any better than a good copy of
the record. However, it is a record I have tried in vain to find in mint
condition. I have two or three I have picked up at thrifts, etc. Also I
bought two copies on eBay advertised as mint, but wound up being in worse
condition than the ones I already owned.
Killer LP. If you don't want to pony up $18.00 for the non-remastered cd
maybe we could work something out.
Best,.
Larry
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Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 08:18:25 -0600 (CST)
From: Kirsten Noel Whitley <whitley@vuse.vanderbilt.edu>
Subject: Re: (exotica) guitar duet - Star Trek
> From owner-exotica@lists.xmission.com Wed Jan 12 03:22 CST 2000
> From: Reader Geoff <G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk>
> It seems our local radio station played a guitar duet version of the Star
> Trek theme recently, without saying who it was by. A friend heard it and
> is intrigued, so am I. Does anyone know who it may be?
I have a similar question: I once heard a version of the Wonderwoman
theme song by the Cramps on a local radio station. But, I never was
able to track down any info about it and have started to question my
memory.... Any Cramps experts out there?
- --Kirsten
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Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 09:24:24 -0500
From: "Josh Renaud" <josh@jabscoinc.com>
Subject: Re: (exotica) CD Burners
| > I recently purchased the Philips 765CDR (this is the dual-deck model)
and am
| > *very* pleased with it. The real upside to these home system components
is
| > that you can burn real-time, as opposed to a burner on your computer
where
| > you must first save the LP tracks to your hard drive as .wav files (or
| > similar files) and then burn them to CD from your hard drive.
|
| I have a new CD burner and on my Mac, I don't have to save as a .wav or
| any other kind of file; I just drag the cuts I want off each cd onto my
| desktop and then burn the CD. I can burn at 6x so it takes 15 minutes or
| less to burn a 74 min. CD. I'll bet the same can be done on a PC, too.
Mine is a Sony and the software that came w/ it does the "cd copy" too. I
think its more of a software thing than a hardware thing, so anyone w/ a
burner who can't just copy an audio CD, might try looking into some
different software. I have a couple Mac and Windows apps, if anyone needs
one.
JOSH
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Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 09:40:08 -0500
From: nytab@pipeline.com
Subject: (exotica) [obit] Bob McFadden
*Bob McFadden
DELRAY BEACH, Fla. (AP) -- Bob McFadden, a retired singer and
television commercial voiceover actor best known as the parrot's
voice for Whisk commercials in the 1970s, died Friday of Lou
Gehrig's disease. He was 76.
McFadden exclaimed ``Ring around the collar!'' And ``Pretty
shirt!'' as the parrot's voice in commercials for the laundry
detergent in the 1970s and 1980s.
After serving in the Navy during World War II and working
briefly in a Pittsburgh steel mill, McFadden got into show business
in 1948 as a singer appearing in nightclubs and hotels around the
country with acts such as the McGuire Sisters and Harry Belafonte.
In the 1960s, he moved to New York and switched to doing voices
and advertising work, providing voices for commercials for
Frankenberry cereal and Pepperidge Farm foods, among others.
McFadden also provided voices on a number of comedy albums in
the 1960s, 1970s and 1980s, including a spoof on the Kennedy family
in the White House called ``The First Family'' and ethnic comedy
albums such as ``The Yiddish Are Coming!''
http://allmusic.com/cg/x.dll?UID=9:29:29|AM&p=amg&sql=B171899
http://voicechasers.org/Actors/B_McFadden.html
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Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 10:01:45 -0500
From: cheryl <cheryls@dsuper.net>
Subject: (exotica) More CD/Lp shopping...
Hi all;
I may have the opportunity to spend a day in Miami, and was wondering if
there were any decent shops to check out - I would be surprised if there
was much in the vinyl department, but would be interested in decent CD
stores. The last time I was there was four years ago, and there was
nothing of interest at the time - I'm hoping it's changed since then.
I know I can always count on this list for decent suggestions (although
sometimes my credit card is not as happy as I am about it!)
ciao,
cheryl
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Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 07:23:36 -0800
From: "Robert Bourque" <Robert_Bourque@notes.teradyne.com>
Subject: (exotica) exotica survey and a little question...
Hi all -
Well, I've been lurking for a little over a year, and all the recent survey
posts have finally shamed me enough into spilling my own beans:
1. Are you a musician? Explain...
Yes - I've tinkered around on guitar for about 8 years now, and I just bought a
piano (much to the delight of Mastercard!). I've written a few things, but
nothing very strange or exotic (aside from the occasional surfy or
Appalachian-hoedown song).
2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this?
I started with "Ultra Lounge Vol. 3: Space Capades" and moved directly onto the
3-in-1 Hoffman Theremin CD (not the Basta set, but the "lo-fi" CD). Since then
I"ve spent many an hour searching for Outer Space Exotica...
3. This list could help you more by...
I'm very interested in the recent talk of the "Exotica database" project - I'm
too lazy to go through the archives to find the tidbits I'm interested in.
4. Other exotica/things you collect
I used to collect every movie promotional item from fast-food places. Now I
have a closet packed with semi-valuable Star Wars plastic cups and
probably-worthless Burger King Simpsons dolls. I'm sticking with exotic records
for now...
5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like:
Mostly British pop (from about the Beatles to current stuff like Suede), Jazz,
Popular Vocals, some electronica, and once in a while some good old fashioned
classical jew's harp/jug/kazoo trio music (oh - I guess that DOES fall under
exotic, doesn't it?).
6. What are you just dying to tell us?
I've finally kicked my all-consuming, self-destructive Pez habit (I'm on the
patch). :)
7. Own a fez? If so, what color, texture and tassel color? Describe it or other
lounge-wear of which you are proud?
Yes - I have a generic red fez with generic black tassel and strange Arabic
characters printed on the inside. I bought it from an online Moroccan
restaurant for $15. It looks great on top of my monitor along with my talking
Mr. Bigglesworth.
8. Shaken/stirred?
Stirred with a glass rod and misted with vermouth in the extra dry 19:1 ratio...
Ah hell, I'll just drink the gin and vermouth straight and let it mix in the
tummy....
Now onto the question:
Last weekend I bought what I believe to be a first edition copy of sheet music
for "Quiet Village." On the back it reproduces the liner notes for "Le Sacre Du
Sauvage by Leslie Baxter," but it includes the following at the bottom of the
page:
"Also available: My Quiet Village - Vocal - Based on the Quiet Village Theme
recorded by DARLA HOOD on Ray Note Records."
Does anyone have any info on this vocal version of "Quiet Village?"
Thanks - Rob B
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Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 09:41:33 -0600
From: Brian Phillips <hagar@mindspring.net>
Subject: Re: (exotica) [obit] Bob McFadden
> DELRAY BEACH, Fla. (AP) -- Bob McFadden, a retired singer and
>television commercial voiceover actor best known as the parrot's
>voice for Whisk commercials in the 1970s, died Friday of Lou
>Gehrig's disease. He was 76.
Adult response: This is very sad. I enjoyed his work.
Kids response: Now he really can walk up behind someone and say, "I'm a
Mummy".
Brian Good
Brian Bad
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Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 11:09:31 -0500
From: Nat Kone <bruno@yhammer.com>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Hawaiian
At 12:13 PM 1/11/00 -0500, jane.murray@maclaren.com wrote:
>Hello, Im new to this mailing list and after reading for a few weeks
>I thought I'd expose myself.
>
>A few months ago I started picking up Hawaiian records in the local
>Goodwills and Sally Anns. Im not even sure why, as I don't have a working
>record player at the moment.
>I live in Toronto
It was bound to happen eventually.
Well jane, fishstick, whichever you prefer... As a (veteran) listmember
from Toronto, I feel it's my duty to welcome you to the list.
And to be honest, the fact that you bought 30 Hawaiian records without
having a turntable, makes me very proud to be a Torontonian.
But when you say that you want to talk about Hawaiian records, it's not
clear whether you want to talk about what they sound like or what they look
like.
I think I'd have to defer to Ross on any question of Hawaiian records, but
in my experience, if you bought 30 Hawaiian records, there are probably 25
that sound the same and maybe five that somehow transcend the genre. Which
are the five that I would keep; or at least, those would be the five I
would have a hard time getting rid of.
Of the remaining 25, I'd only keep the ones with naked hula girls or
semi-naked
(or once were naked..) or any cover that was in any way appealing, strange
or cool. Which could mean all of them. But eventually I'd get rid of the
ones that didn't contain some nudity.
Unless one of the semi-naked ones had a cut or two that was better than
average.
So what do you want to know about Hawaiian records?
And what're your favourite Goodwill stores? Don't worry, I think I'm over
that.
Nat
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Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 06:46:59 -0500
From: Nat Kone <bruno@yhammer.com>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: exotica-digest V2 #590
At 12:13 PM 1/11/00 -0500, jane.murray@maclaren.com wrote:
>Hello, Im new to this mailing list and after reading for a few weeks
>I thought I'd expose myself.
>
>A few months ago I started picking up Hawaiian records in the local
>Goodwills and Sally Anns. Im not even sure why, as I don't have a working
>record player at the moment.
>I live in Toronto
It was bound to happen eventually.
Well jane, fishstick, whichever you prefer... As a (veteran) listmember
from Toronto, I feel it's my duty to welcome you to the list.
And to be honest, the fact that you bought 30 Hawaiian records without
having a turntable, makes me very proud to be a Torontonian.
But when you say that you want to talk about Hawaiian records, it's not
clear whether you want to talk about what they sound like or what they look
like.
I think I'd have to defer to Ross on any question of Hawaiian records, but
in my experience, if you bought 30 Hawaiian records, there are probably 25
that sound the same and maybe five that somehow transcend the genre. Which
are the five that I would keep; or at least, those would be the five I
would have a hard time getting rid of.
Of the remaining 25, I'd only keep the ones with naked hula girls or
semi-naked
(or once were naked..) or any cover that was in any way appealing, strange
or cool. Which could mean all of them. But eventually I'd get rid of the
ones that didn't contain some nudity.
Unless one of the semi-naked ones had a cut or two that was better than
average.
So what do you want to know about Hawaiian records?
And what're your favourite Goodwill stores? Don't worry, I think I'm over
that.
Nat
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Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 14:16:00 +0000
From: Moritz R <Moritz.Reichelt@munich.netsurf.de>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Schmalzwald
Brian Karasick wrote:
> Having had the opportunity to visit Berlin a few months back I'd
> have to confer with Moritz's opinion on the "Schmatzwald", though
> with the rider that hallucinogens are an optional enhancement but
> not required.
Ha, ha. OK. Like car racing with a Fiat 500...
> The name is a play on "Schwatzwald" ie. The Black Forest
Schwarzwald. Schwatzwald would translate into Rap Forest. Schmalz however
originally is a certain kind of animal fat, but the word became used for cheesy
kitschy over-emotional popular music, I guess already long ago in Operette times.
So the combination term Schmalzwald is truly funny and pretty much describes the
ironic put-on these people perform.
> Hammonds are scarce and prohibitively expensive in Europe we learned
Really? Never heard that. During the 80s you could still get them for almost free
virtually everywhere. Maybe Gordon was talking about a specific version or
something.
Question: Does anyone know the name of the KBZ's singer?
Mo
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Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 11:33:18 -0500
From: "Josh Renaud" <josh@jabscoinc.com>
Subject: Re: (exotica) CD Burners
| Josh and Brett are both correct in their observations about copying CDs
| using a computer-based CD burner -- it's fairly easy and fast whether
you're
| using Mac or PC. It becomes more complicated when you're talking about
| copying *vinyl LPs* (i.e., you have to save all tracks as audio files on
| your hard drive before burning), which is the point I was trying to make.
| When you've got a ton of vinyl that you want to burn onto CD, the home
| system component burners are vastly easier to use.
Oh okay, you are correct.
I noticed that my burner has, what look like, A/V plugs in the back, but
there doesnt seem a way that you could have it record without a computer. My
only guess is that you can cluster multiple burners together and use some
external control console or something...
JOSH
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Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 12:06:39 -0500
From: nytab@pipeline.com
Subject: Re: (exotica) F & T & C & D & R
keith@lobue-art.com wrote:
>And to "Lou" the "music fan(thanks for the cred)" who wrote:
****This is the worst CD I have ever listened to.
Just wanna be clear here, Keith. This isn't my review -- It's a review
I copied from amazon.com for your entertainment. I'm with you in that
I think the LP is a work of genius. I found it amusing that the
nameless reviewer can despise the disc for exactly those reasons I
find it remarkably essential.
- -Lou
lousmith@pipeline.com
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Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 18:29:06 +0100
From: Marco \"Kallie\" Kalnenek <weirdomusic@wxs.nl>
Subject: (exotica) Re: another burning idea (FWD)
I think this message from ClichΘ didn't make it to the list, so I take
the liberty of sending it again. He wrote this in response to my idea to
compile a CD-R of our own music:
That is a really great idea! Where do you live?
because, probably the distance makes it difficult.
I can help for this project with my studio, so for eg
1. we can share our music in some electronical format (RA or MP3) and
then
2. we will choose our favourite ones.
3. one of us collects the choosen songs and makes a compilation limited
edition
CD or if someone has enough time we can offer it to
a record label.
Q: Has anyone time to make a site for sharing our music? The (s)he could
be
the
central person of this project, bacause (S)he has to manage it
for a while.
keep on,
ClichΘ
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Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 12:32:51
From: jschwart@voicenet.com
Subject: (exotica) Eno
On Tue, 11 Jan 2000 12:34:10 -0500, "Brian Karasick"
<brian@phyres.lan.mcgill.ca> wrote:
>Those four early Eno records are just about the most amazing
recordings I know, and they will live on for many years without
sounding in the least dated. I was really saddened to see him move
in the ambient direction but I kind of like his version of "The Lion
Sleeps Tonight" in spite of all that's been said. I'm a bit of a sucker
for beat boxes so maybe that explains it.
I totally agree with the above and with previous Eno endorsements. For me,
Eno ceased to become fun to listen to when he restored the "Brian" to his
name (although technically I have to ignore the 4th album to make this
argument work!). I've always found his singing voice quite pleasant, and he
certainly never claimed to be Caruso -- in fact he was the first person I
can recall openly and shamelessly declaring he was a "non-musician" that
made records. But at some point he got tired of his singing voice and fell
in love with his speaking voice, becoming much better known for his
long-winded theories about sound and production than for the lovely whimsy
of his forgotten, short-lived songwriting career. He learned that he could
make a lot more money by losing his sense of humor, a lesson not lost on
David Byrne, another master of the modern artform of Keeping A Straight Face.
While I wouldn't call his classic work "dated," I actually think it's hard
to fully appreciate how revolutionary they were when they first appeared in
the early/mid seventies, since many of his ideas have been assimilated into
the pop landscape. TAKING TIGER MOUNTAIN was the first album I ever heard
that used the sound of a cheap rhythm machine for drums (although I now
know it wasn't the first -- Robin Gibb's solo album ROBIN'S REIGN did it
years earlier, not that you should run out and buy it), where it previously
was used primarily as a metronome for Wurlitzer home organs. And even
certain non-rock rhythms that he employed (which sounded more nursery-rhyme
than pop music-derived) would find themselves in Giorgio Moroder records
later. Eno's great lyrics are completely overlooked now too. The only
precedent I ever saw for what Eno did was in the work of Erik Satie,
another musician who used typewriters for percussion, and one who had a
similar sense of poetry and playfulness.
In the 1980s I once attended an installation at a Los Angeles art gallery
that Eno created. It consisted of small white surfaces (? - hard to
remember) illuminated from below by unseen video monitors, so that the
surfaces slowly changed color and had shadows, while an ambient hum filled
the room. My sketchy description of it is more interesting than it was to
actually walk through the room. But there was a guest book, so I felt I
should sign it.
I wrote, "I really love your first four albums and miss your songwriting. I
do have some of your ambient records and they are sort of interesting, but
to be honest I never play them. But if I ever do play them again, I'm sure
they will remind me of this installation."
>Still for anyone looking
for a return to the old Eno I'd suggest listening to "Nerve Net". It's
from around 1992 and has that old Eno sound is very much
present... Proof that there's more of it in him and not to give up!
I never even heard of this...is it a whole album of songs with words? I do
have the Eno/Cale album which was not bad and a slight return to style
(albeit with both singers sounding a bit creaky in their advanced years),
with the song "Spinning Away" the most elligible candidate to stand
alongside his old song catalog. Of course, this album most resembles the
calming beauty of his 3rd & 4th albums rather than the complete genius (and
LSD-derived?) insanity of the first two. But I'll settle for that.
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Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 09:39:36 -0800 (PST)
From: Peter Risser <knucklehead000@yahoo.com>
Subject: (exotica) Peter Tork
Sorry about all the posts that are about to come in a
row, but I just got out of a three hour meeting, where
I spent my free time reviewing the digests from the
last week.
Anyway,
Johann (I think) just posted about a record he got on
Cd-Rom by Reverend John Rydgren and Peter Tork, and
about how wacky and groovy it was. Aside from
desperately wanting to hear it (I hope Johann joins
Bumpy's Exotica Ring!), I was thinking
Wasn't Peter Tork the floppy-haired shy boyish Monkee?
Just wondering.
Peter
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Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 09:40:33 -0800 (PST)
From: Peter Risser <knucklehead000@yahoo.com>
Subject: (exotica) Burning Project
I would love to curate the burning project, and
someday I may even have two computers that I could
dedicate to the project.
But not today.
Somebody bring it up in May and see if I'm any better
off.
Peter
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Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 09:42:05 -0800 (PST)
From: Peter Risser <knucklehead000@yahoo.com>
Subject: (exotica) Educational Copyright
Someone said that you could copy stuff for educational
purposes. I don't think so. Although it may have
changed since then, I distinctly remember some text
book publishers suing the bejeezus out of some
Universities and Kinko's for copying tons and tons of
copyrighted materials for distribution in their
classes.
Which pretty much says to me that, no, educational
copying is not valid.
Nice try though.
Peter
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Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 09:50:06 -0800 (PST)
From: Peter Risser <knucklehead000@yahoo.com>
Subject: (exotica) Already Found Samples
Someone questioned the search for existing samples.
Well, the artifact is definitely part of it. I know
that I've always wanted to put together mixes based on
samples used in albums, like Beastie Boys' Pauls'
Boutique or De La Soul's 3 Ft High and Rising.
More importantly for me though, is that a lot of times
I really enjoy the music that the samples come from.
Especially as a newbie, when I could hunt down songs
that were sampled, I was often introduced to cool and
interesting artists I had never heard of before.
So that's always good.
A good reason to list your samples too, I think.
Speaking of which, I was tuned into
www.weirdsville.com last night (Great Show!) and heard
a song only identified as Swan's Serenade (or
something like that). I believe the artist was either
JJ Perrey or Perrey and Kingsley. but I don't know
for certain. In any case, there was a riff that
sounded EXACTLY like the riff for that Smashmouth song
"Walking on the Sun". Exactly. Pretty neat, really.
Which brings me to my other point. I know a lot of
times artists use some easily recognizable samples to
bring cultural resonances into the piece. That's
cool.
But that arguement falls apart when you are going out
of your way to find super obscure stuff to sample that
barely anyone has ever heard. At that point, I've
always wondered, why not just play it yourself. I
mean, you could even sample yourself playing it.
That's how music did it in the past. Somebody heard
something they liked and played something really
similar, that had the same feel, and then they had a
new song.
I think.
That's what we did in my band. We took a cool part
that we liked from James Brown and put it here. And a
cool part from Jesus Lizard and put it here. And a
cool idea from the Pixies here and an interesting
concept from the Three Suns here.
Then we had something new. And it was ours.
Peter
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Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 12:42:06 -0500
From: dciccone@inspex.com
Subject: (exotica) Kidney, fava beans and a Theremin
Read the novel "Hannibal" by Thomas Harris over the weekend. Besides Bach
and the harpsichord Hannibal Lector likes the Thememin!
Browsing in a book store or a library? Scootch over to Chapter 54. Page
287 in the US hardcover edition. In the book Lector purchases an authentic
1930's Theremin at Sotheby's built by Professor Thememin himself.
Let's hope they leave this out in the movie version. Bad enough you could
be thought a psycho if you like Bach and the Goldberg Variations. (Oh, you
like Themerim's too? They say as they start eyeing the exits....)
Chain me to a 2 wheel dolly,
Domenic
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Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 12:51:22 EST
From: Pearmania@aol.com
Subject: (exotica) Re: Sway
In a message dated 1/12/00 5:53:01 AM US Eastern Standard Time,
tterrace@sonic.net writes:
<< >I've never heard the "original" version of this song...
That was "Quien Sera," no? Viz. Ultra Lounge Bongoland, track 13 part 2.
>>
I have a version of "Quien Sera" which predates Nick Perito's version on
Bongoland by 7 years. It's by Noro Morales and was recorded in 1953. I'm
not sure who originated the song, though.
Sean
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Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 18:52:12 +0100
From: Marco \"Kallie\" Kalnenek <weirdomusic@wxs.nl>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Educational Copyright
Peter Risser wrote:
> I distinctly remember some text
> book publishers suing the bejeezus out of some
> Universities and Kinko's for copying tons and tons of
> copyrighted materials for distribution in their
> classes.
True. The same is going on again here in the Netherlands. Some publishers are
complaining about the so-called readers that the universities compile.
Marco
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Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 13:01:16 -0500
From: nytab@pipeline.com
Subject: (exotica) wet/dry
This is an excerpt from Bob McFadden's obit in today's NYTimes:
http://nytimes.com/yr/mo/day/news/national/obit-b-mcfaden.html
He met his wife in Boston in 1950, when the two were working together.
While he sang onstage, she and her twin sister performed synchronized
swimming exercises in a pool below.
"I was a wet act and he was a dry act," recalled Mrs. McFadden.
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I find this an astounding act!
The mental images this inspires!!
Anyone know if this was a common sort of entertainment, or if this
was unique to the McFaddens?
That's what's wrong with show biz these days -- not enuf wet/dry acts!
- -Lou
lousmith@pipeline.com
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Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 19:39:38 +0100
From: Johan Dada Vis <Quiet@village.uunet.be>
Subject: (exotica) recent acquisitions
* The Ventures: "$1,000,000 Weekend"
o LP, Liberty LST-8054 Stereo, USA, 1967
o appreciation: 4
o note: Groovy guitar instro versions of 60's popular hits.
* "The Wild Eye" by Gianni Marchetti
o LP, RCA LSP-4003 Stereo, USA, 1968
o appreciation: 3
o note: Typical Italian soundtrack, with lots of haunting
melodies and etheral wordless vocals, not unlike Morricone.
* Chaino: "Voodoo drums"
o LP, Metro 2356 052, German issue, 1970's
o appreciation: 4, collectability: 5
o Reissue of "Jungle Mating Rhythms" (Verve MGV2104).
* Herb Alpert & The Tijuana Brass: "Play the standards of today"
o LP, A&M AMLP 8007, UK, 1974
o appreciation: 3
o note: Real nice and tasty Tijuana versions of "Monday monday",
"All my loving", "Girl from Ipanema", "Without her" and others
* The Castaway Strings: "Play The Elvis Presley Song Book"
o LP, Vee-Jay Records VJ-1113, USA, 1960's?
o appreciation: 3
o note: Better than you might expect!
* Xaviera Hollander: "Happily Hooked"
o LP, Turning Point 30009
o appreciation: 3
o note: Sex stories with musical background
* The Johnny Mann Singers: "Beatle Ballads"
o LP, Liberty LRP-3391 mono
o appreciation: 3
o note: Vocal group EZ cover versions. "Things we said today" is the
stand-out, with that "digue-digue-ding" like scatt.
* Sesamstrasse: "Die schoensten Lieder mit Ernie und Bert und ihren
Freunden"
o cd, Europa /BMG 74321 18597, Germany, 1994
o appreciation: 4
o note: Yep, the German version of Sesame Street, including a German
"Mah na mah na" and 2 Beatles covers. Sesame Street covered
several Beatle tracks, but this is the only one on CD I've
discovered so far.
* Stock, Hausen & Walkman: "Organ Transplants Volume 1"
o CD, These QRM 101, UK, 1996, deleted
o appreciation: 2
o note: A "Noise" view on EZ listening. Their most accessible album,
still very weird though.
* BBC: "Movement, Mime and Music"
o LP, mono BBC RESR 5, UK, 1969
o appreciation: 3
o note: Music and sounds for music and movement from the BBC
"Movement, Mime and Music" series for schools. Really good sound
effects and Moog tracks on side B.
* Uncle Lumpey, with Fred Waring and the Pennsylvanians: "The Adventures
of Little Orley in story and song"
o LP, Vocalion VL 73737 simulated stereo, USA, 1960's
o appreciation: 4
o note: Great kiddie record: wacky stories with lots of funny
sounds.
Andre Popp: "Passeport pour Piccolo, Saxo et Cie volume 2" & "vol 2"
o 10", Philips livre-disque, France, 1957
o appreciation: 2
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