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exotica-digest        Monday, January 10 2000        Volume 02 : Number 589



In This Digest:

Re: (exotica) exotica questionaire
(exotica) What's with the baggy sleeves?
Re: (exotica) Mireille Mathieu
Re: (exotica) First song of the year 2000...
(exotica) the tv thing
Re: (exotica) record habits
(exotica) Louis Prima Biovid
(exotica) Re: New Music
(exotica) Records today and recently
Re: (exotica) Records today and recently
Re: (exotica) Records today and recently
Re: (exotica) record habits
Re: (exotica) Bring back...
Re: (exotica) You Go-Go Girl
Re: (exotica) New Music
(exotica) Help! RF problems
(exotica) The Friendly Persuasion Show - Week of 01/10/00
Re: (exotica) Records today and recently
(exotica) ENO
Re: (exotica) record habits
(exotica) Martin Denny on NPR
Re: (exotica) Do I detect some rust?

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Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 13:40:34 -0800
From: Kevin Crossman <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) exotica questionaire

> 1. Are you a musician? Explain...
Amateur CD-player by trade...


> 2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this?
Robert Drasnin's Voodoo! was the first true exotica CD I got, followed
shortly thereafter by the UL Crime Scene and Mondo Exotica discs (and
then Martin Denny Exotica, et al.)  I did have earlier incluence from
some of Tangerine Dream (Risky Business) and Danny Elfman's (Wisdom)
percussion-based scores.

>
> 3. This list could help you more by...

Causing record companies to release more old stuff, "push" new exotica
bands onto the public (yeah, I know, but a guy can dream, can't he?)
>
> 4. Other exotica/things you collect

Swizzle sticks, Mai Tai reviews, old bartender guides and the like. I
dream a lot about Bora Bora.
>
> 5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like:

Have lots of heavy stuff (Metallica, Megadeth, etc), eurodisco (Pet Shop
Boys, Depeche Mode), 80's New Wave/Pop (Oingo Boingo, Cure, Men at
Work), Soundtrack stuff (Danny Elfman, etc), even a lot of pop (Madonna).

>
> 6. What are you just dying to tell us?

The world would be a much better place if everyone listened to me... Oh,
not really...
>
> 7. Own a fez?  If so, what color, texture and tassel color? Describe it
> or
> > other lounge-wear of which you are proud?
>

Hawaiian Shirts!
>
> 8. Shaken/stirred?
Shaken! Except I don't like Martinis...

Kevin Crossman
The Search for the Ultimate Mai Tai
http://www.kevdo.com/maitai/


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Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 17:08:56 -0500
From: Wayno <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) What's with the baggy sleeves?

I've noticed a weird motif cropping up in music ads recently: the subject
is wearing a jersey or sweater with very long sleeves, so that only their
fingers are visible, and they've got one or both hands near their face.
What's supposed to be conveyed here? Are these people trying to look
endearing or something?

This bizarre pose can be seen on "Revelations" by Wynona Judd
<http://www.cdnow.com/cgi-bin/mserver/SID=580138329//RP/CDN/FIND/album.html/arti
stid=JUDD*WYNONNA/itemid=325708> and "It's No Secret Anymore" by Linda Eder
<http://www.cdnow.com/cgi-bin/mserver/SID=580138329//RP/CDN/FIND/album.html/arti
stid=EDER*LINDA/itemid=795112>.

I recently spotted an ad for Sting's new album (and back catalog) where
he's jumping on the extra-long sleeve bandwagon. In this ad, he appears to
be holding his nose and laughing, which is probably an appropriate reaction
to his records.

Anybody have an explanation (or theory) for this odd phenomenon?

Just curious,

Wayno





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Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 00:21:19 +0100
From: "Moritz R" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Mireille Mathieu

Some of you might be interested in the fact that Mireille Mathieu has feet
made of wood.

Mo



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Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 00:21:31 +0100
From: "Moritz R" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) First song of the year 2000...

I was at a party and the host played "Also sprach Zarathustra" followed by
"In the Year 2525". I thought it kind of worked.

Mo



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Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 19:34:09 -0500
From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) the tv thing

There's little that's especially "listy" on tv this week.

Friday night at 9:00pm and Midnight (eastern), US Bravo has "Exotica"
(1994), but it's about a different exotica. Sure to be snipped-up for your
convenience.

Every Tuesday morning this month, TCM is running a batch of Edward L. Cahn
movies (if you know the name, you know where it's at). This week includes
"Hong Kong Confidential", "Pier 5, Havana" (both w/ Allison Hayes) and
"Four Skulls Of Jonathan Drake" (four more besides, check the listings for
full rundown).

And next Saturday night AMC has "Fathom" (1967) at 10:00pm and 3:45am.
Budget euro-adventure w/ Raquel Welch -- chattered about on here a while
back. At 2:15am they offer Ann-Margret in "The Swinger" (1966). Silly 60s
stuff. Surely some Now Sound on the soundtrack.

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Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 19:34:22 -0500
From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) record habits

My obsessive-compulsive confessions...

When I listen to an LP or disc, I prefer to listen all the way through the
first time -- a tradition going back to my youth when it was all such a
wonderful ritual (going home with a new record -- peeling the shrink wrap
(remember the smell of a freshly opened record?) -- seeing what sort of
goodies they had in the package (gatefold? inserts?) -- and finally
slapping it on the turntable and away we go on a new adventure). There's a
feeling that to get the true effect of the artists' intentions, you should
listen straight through. You don't watch a movie in bits and pieces (well,
sometimes). Except the last few years I have bad problems staying awake for
the duration. There's some sort of somatic effect that's hard to fight. And
it even works with noisy stuff like The Boredoms. Go figger. It's a royal
pain.

At one time, I would subsequently listen to an album a few tracks at a
time, each morning while doing some menial chores, which didn't interfere
with full listening attention. This was really good for having the tracks
soak in individually, rather than the way they can blur together in a
full-length listening. An album usually lasted just under a week through
that process. I don't get to do that now though. Once soaked in (somehow),
I tend not to listen full-length after that... just pull out tracks for
reference (or a craving).

Or I might put an album on in the background while doing something else.
But I always feel a little guilty when I do that. I have some sort of
Protestant work ethic about giving my full concentration when listening to
music. Eyes shut... really climb inside it. And then I get sleepy. Can't win.

I don't archive to tape or anything. But I'm still way behind on my
listening. Jessica always amazed me with her ability to file a report on a
whole stack of records she'd just scored. I have records from a couple of
summers ago that I haven't spun yet! Not that I've got huge quantities here
(it's peanuts compared to a lot of you), but I just need to be in the right
mood at the right time. And then there's all of these movies I haven't
watched either!

I order them alphabetical by artist, then chronological (if possible)
within the artist (if more than one album by the artist). With classical
material, the composer and performer may have to arm-wrestle for
precedence. Various artist albums are under V for Various and alphabetized
by title within that fiefdom. The other exception is the often-anonymous
kiddie records, filed under K and similarly alphabetized by title.

To me, alphabetical seems much simpler than genre-filing. I mean, all of
that category creating and sorting has to be a lot of work. And then I
imagine myself trying to remember where I filed some genre-defying item.
The other thing I like about alphabetical filing is the juxtapositions it
creates. Like: Billy Vaughn, The Velvet Underground and The Ventures. Or
Vanity 6 and Edgard Varese. Or Sun Ra and The Surfaris.

Now aren't you sorry you asked?

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Date: 9 Jan 2000 17:34:25 -0800
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Louis Prima Biovid

At 05:08 PM 09-01-00 -0500, Wayno wrote:

>I've noticed a weird motif cropping up in music ads recently: the subject
>is wearing a jersey or sweater with very long sleeves, so that only their
>fingers are visible, and they've got one or both hands near their face.

Oh, this is the Keely Smith look! :)

No, I have no idea and I am sure she didn't establish the sweater motif,
but it gives me a chance to talk about the latest video documentary about
Louis Prima. This video production features several clips of Ms. Smith and
Mr. Prima, she is constantly rubbing her nose as she stands in the
background.  It is not a particularly normal thing to do while on stage or
TV.  Also, other than that, she was practically motionless.  In fact, she
looked as if she was a 2-D lifesize cutout (every band should have one).

From what the documentary said, this was part of the act...but she often
looked genuinely bored and even repulsed by all of the stage antics so I
wonder what she REALLY was thinking.  Still, the documentary did have some
music clips where she was engaged...a solo she did with the band and a duo
with Louis where she actually laughed.

It is a very good documentary and gave me probably the best overview of
Louis Prima's career that I have encountered.  It is called "Louis Prima:
The Wildest" and is directed by Don McGlynn.  He says it will start playing
on American Movie Classics beginning February 5th.  Video distribution
rights haven't been arranged yet, but he says it will probably eventually
be released on DVD.

He says he tried to do a new interview with Ms. Smith for the movie and
spent 6 months at it before resorting to an older interview.

Byron



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Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 22:02:34 -0500
From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: New Music

At 04:03 PM 1/9/00 EST, [e-mail] wrote:
>
> I have debated with proponents of the
>new stuff about this endless repetition, lack of bridges and choruses,
even a
>melody beyond the attraction of the basic bassline. I get told again and
>again, "This is new music. it doesn't follow the rules of the old music."

I have nothing against that.  Far be it from me to be caught saying that
new music should follow the rules of old music.  Maybe my beef is with the
marketing or the hype more than with the music.  Like I said in my post, if
I hear that the DJ went through multiple bins and a wide range of genres in
order to create his/her new music, that sets up an expectation.  I'd say
that Tipsy pretty well met that expectation but very few others.
Why do they talk about all the old records that are both influences and
tools for them if you need a very fine tooth comb in order to find
something that may just be a sample?
All I can think is that it's cool to talk about pouring over the bins, to
create an image of yourself as some kind of hip archaeologist but when it
comes down to it, actually fulfilling the image would force you to create a
kind of music that just wouldn't cut it in this scene.
And if nobody calls you on it, then you get to have the best of both worlds.

Then again, I could be totally wrong about this.  Just another old fogey
like Jimmy, though slightly less old.


> Now, that being said, is it possible that
>sampling is such a complicated matter that to pack a new song with loads of
>samples in technologically unfeasible?

This is something I do know and it's definitely feasible.  Someday when we
get them all nicely packaged, I'll send you a copy of my soundtrack which
disproves your theory in a number of ways.
Like I said, I don't think it's a matter of feasibility as much as
"desirability".  The kind of music that you're imagining is not the kind of
music they want to make.  They may sample tons of riffs but they don't let
that get in the way of doing what they want to do.  They chop it so fine
that they're the only ones who can really tell that there was once a sample
there.

Maybe that's a bit of an exaggeration, I don't know.

Nat



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Date: 9 Jan 2000 18:58:06 -0800
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Records today and recently

Here are some LPs I got today and a few from a recent trip.  I welcome any
insights you have.  I haven't been able to listen to them yet.

A Very Merry Electric Christmas to You  Douglas Leedy  Capitol ST 339  This
may interest the synth crowd.  Here Mr. Leedy plays the Moog, Buchla and
Ognob synthesizers at UCLA.  The only Xmas carol I don't recognize is
called "From Heaven to Earth."

Welcome to the Ponderosa  Lorne Greene  RCA LSP 2843  Alas I still do not
have Bonanza (LSP 2583), Christmas on the Ponderosa (LSP 2757) or Lorne
Greene's "Young at Heart" (LSP 2661), but this was a good intro from 1964.
 It appears mostly spoken word with only two musical numbers: Bonanza,
arranged by Don Ralke) and Saga of the Ponderosa, arranged by Dave
Gates...both conducted by Joe Reisman.  Don't ask me why I would want any
of these albums...I just have this weird need to grab these odd
concept/tie-in albums.  I don't even think I watched Bonanza, although I
know the theme song very well and my college roomate used to be named Bob
Cartwright (when he got married HE changed his last name because he got
tired of the jokes).

In the Mexican Bag  Billy Strange with the Mexicana Brass  GNP-C. GNP 2022
I am not a huge fan of Billy Strange, but I usually like at least one cut
from each of his albums and the concepts for his albums usually appeal to me.

Tricky Trombones Warren Covington & the Tommy Dorsey Orchestra  Decca DL 4130
Ghost big bands always bothered me, especially in this case because Mr.
Covington had a sound of his own.  So, when I buy these ghost band records
I consider them the Warren Covington Orchestra first.  I like Covington's
Cha Cha records.

We Dig Mancini  The Anita Kerr Quartet  RCA  LPM 3428 1965
I have a feeling I may not like this one, especially because it has an
endorsement from Arthur Godfrey which calls it "a beautiful album."
However, I have been interested in vocal groups which do Mancini or music
by other talented composers/arrangers.  There was another Mancini vocal
album in the pricier stacks which had Mr. M's active participation, but
this one apparently did not.  Anyway, there are vocal renditions of The
Pink Panther Theme, Baby Elephant Walk, Charade, Dreamsville and Peter
Gunn...so there may be something interesting, if nothing something to laugh
at.  There is a stereo version of this one, of course.

Alone Together  Joe Lilley, Whispering Choir and The Skylarks  Decca DL 8223
Another vocal album apparently.  The titles don't sound particularly
fun...all of that romantic variety.  Still, I think I have heard that The
Skylarks are a good group...and this album has a great cover: a
well-dressed guy and gal on a tiny desert isle with a Decca record player
playing, what else, a Decca record!

Dancing Tonight To Morrow  Buddy Morrow  RCA LPM 1925
I tried bidding for this record once in a paper auction and got the auction
folks messed up the number so I didn't get the record.  Oh well, now I have
it.  I usually like some Buddy Morrow tunes.  With Mambo Number Five and
tunes like "Chicken Bone" or "Hey, Mr. Bones" I think this may be interesting.

South of the Border   Various   4 LPs  Reader's Digest  1968
These days I am more reluctant to buy these boxed sets.  They look nice and
generally are in very good condition, but I rarely play from them!  The
whole process of pulling them out just seems so tiresome.  These are made
for the era of stacked LPs.  Also, pulling one record out of a sleeve let
you admire the cover art and read the liner notes...and these boxed sets
usually had bad art and very little good documentation to speak of. Not to
mention, the performances were not usually by the best groups or the best
recordings.  This boxed set is pretty much along those lines but has SOME
better performers mixed in: Perez Prado, Claus Ogerman...but only a couple
cuts each.  The rest of the selections are performed by folks which may
have been popular in Mexico, but not in the US.  I am hoping for the best,
though, and it didn't cost me much to give them a try.

Byron



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Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 22:51:54 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Records today and recently

Mr Smooth writes

<< We Dig Mancini  The Anita Kerr Quartet  RCA  LPM 3428 1965
 I have a feeling I may not like this one, especially because it has an
 endorsement from Arthur Godfrey which calls it "a beautiful album."
 However, I have been interested in vocal groups which do Mancini or music
 by other talented composers/arrangers.  There was another Mancini vocal
 album in the pricier stacks which had Mr. M's active participation, but
 this one apparently did not.  Anyway, there are vocal renditions of The
 Pink Panther Theme, Baby Elephant Walk, Charade, Dreamsville and Peter
 Gunn...so there may be something interesting, if nothing something to laugh
 at.  There is a stereo version of this one, of course. >>

I think you are in for a very nice surprise with this record Byron.  Much,
much, much cooler and hipper than anything Anita Kerr ever did.  For my ears,
you've got yourself a great record.

Was that other Mancini vocal record "the brothers go to mothers and others",
by Group One?  If it is, get back there and pick it up!  Another winner.


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Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 21:32:45 -0700
From: kendoll <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Records today and recently

[e-mail] wrote:

> A Very Merry Electric Christmas to You  Douglas Leedy  Capitol ST 339  This
> may interest the synth crowd.  Here Mr. Leedy plays the Moog, Buchla and
> Ognob synthesizers at UCLA.

i met Don Bucha, inventor of the Buchla synthesizer in 1992 at the Banff
Centre. no insight, just name dropping.

> Welcome to the Ponderosa  Lorne Greene

again, no insight, but a story: my baba was the biggest Lorne Greene fan ever.
when he appeared here for a concert she begged my mother to take her, but my
mother refused because it was sold out. baba insisted that for one frail
little old white haired lady they would surely find a seat, but my mother was
intransigent. I think this was a sore point between them for many years. too
bad i wasn't older (i couldn't have been more than 9), i would have got baba
in to that concert somehow.

> We Dig Mancini  The Anita Kerr Quartet  RCA  LPM 3428 1965
> I have a feeling I may not like this one, especially because it has an
> endorsement from Arthur Godfrey which calls it "a beautiful album."

i think you will be pleasantly surprised. the tracks with wordless vocals (da
ba da's) are especially fine -- baby elephant walk, mr. lucky, pink panther --
as well as the peter gunn theme for its swinging lyrics.

> These days I am more reluctant to buy these boxed sets.  They look nice and
> generally are in very good condition, but I rarely play from them!  The
> whole process of pulling them out just seems so tiresome.  These are made
> for the era of stacked LPs.  Also, pulling one record out of a sleeve let
> you admire the cover art and read the liner notes...and these boxed sets
> usually had bad art and very little good documentation to speak of. Not to
> mention, the performances were not usually by the best groups or the best
> recordings.

this sums up how i feel about these box sets too. one recent exception though
was a set on victor called adventures in stereo which features 10 complete LPs
by the artists, the best being esquivel's latin-esque, dick schory's stereo
action goes broadway, marty gold's stereo action goes hollywood, an okay
wurlitzer record by leonard leigh. lesser lights include arthur murray, norman
luboff choir & melachrino strings. would have been nice to have the original
cover art, but for $2.99 in mint condition i'm not complaining.

mike.

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Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 21:50:25 -0700
From: kendoll <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) record habits

m.ace wrote:

> The other thing I like about alphabetical filing is the juxtapositions it
> creates. Like: Billy Vaughn, The Velvet Underground and The Ventures. Or
> Vanity 6 and Edgard Varese. Or Sun Ra and The Surfaris.

i too am fond of the shelf-mates that alphabetical filing creates. in my
collection Barry White is next to Slim Whitman and Andy Williams, Isaac Hayes
to Heino & Heintje.

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Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 00:20:50 +0100
From: "Moritz R" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Bring back...

From: Nat Kone

>I miss Moritz but I'm assuming he's coming back

Correctly, Nat! Coming back from prolonged christmas-holydays, only to find
some 450 exotica list postings. It's a bit late now, but all my best wishes
for you all for the current millenium! May we all be in good shape till the
next one!

I had the most psychedelic New Years night in Berlin. After attending the
party of friends I ended up in the new "Schmalzwald", where Gordon, Laura
and this phantastic singer, whose name I don't know, performed "evergreens".
If there's a place on earth better suited for tripping, I'd like to know,
but I doubt it. We were speechless. Imagine a large cubic room. The walls
all covered to the ceiling with all your favorite things to look at plus
unimaginable images and objects that would turn the entire futurist's and
Dadaist's faces pale. The best record covers the hundreds, a large Tiki
column in the middle of the room, no wonder the Schmalzwald had recieved the
Triple Tiki Award by Tiki News and Sven Kirsten! There are spacy laser
rainbow backgrounds and kinetic plastic objects and weird lamps in all
shapes and colors. Everything was so colorful and wild and funny, I have to
take off my hat to Laura who has styled all this. If you assume it was only
our altered state of mind that had made us see the Schmalzwald like a
psychedelic dream come true, go there yourself!
At some time in the night there was a tombola. One prize was one of Laura's
lamps, another one "all records you can carry away from 2000" and I only
wished I would win that, because I'm very experienced in carrying LOTS of
records. The third prize was a "two-hour trip for two - any destination". It
turned out to be two bus-tickets.

We stayed for hours and didn't leave until 7 in the morning. Funny: On the
way home in a subway station, we met a very good friend of mine from Munich,
of 5 million or so people who were in Berlin that night. And that wasn't a
hallucination either!

Mo



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Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 01:28:28 +0100
From: "Moritz R" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) You Go-Go Girl

- ----- Original Message -----
From: Mimi Mayer <[e-mail]>

> For you eXoticats who love Nancy, do the triumphs of Boots and Velvet
> Morning or Jackson or even How Does That Grab You, Darlin'? compensate for
> the mediocrity of the bulk of her performances? Or is it Hazelwood's
> songwriting and arrangements you dig?

Exactely. The best are the duets anyway. Remember Nancy was about to quit
music business for total failure when Lee came and made her sing "Boots"
"like a 14 year old girl who wants to seduce a 40 year old man". SHE,
according to her own statements, had no idea what he was talking about.

>Or am I just not getting the X factor that makes Nancy great?

No, there is no X-factor.

Mo



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Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 00:14:11 -0500
From: "Br. Cleve" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) New Music

At 4:03 PM -0500 1/9/00, [e-mail] wrote:

> is it possible that
>sampling is such a complicated matter that to pack a new song with loads of
>samples in technologically unfeasible? ..... Why can't this be done with
>other pieces and then
>have samples of e-z styled stuff thrown in on top. ....all you have to do
>is match the keys up,
>admittedly a tiresome job. Then there's more of a listening experience and
>less focus on head-bobbing to mainly beats. Or am I missing something?

There is a style of electronic music that does this all the time. It's
called breakbeat. It's not very popular in the U.S. yet (except in Miami),
but you can hear lots of it in Europe and Japan. It's funk based, features
lots of ez samples as well as TV and movie dialogue, etc, and generally has
lots of melodic things going on. Some of it contains real songs that
listees would know : Skeewiff's "New Avengers Theme", MIke Young's
"Telstar", Mucho Mambo's "Sway", Three Amigo's "Louie Louie", The Wiseguy's
remix of Beck's "Sex Laws", Rolling Stoned's "Jumpin Jack Flash", Fat Boy
Slim's "Satisfaction"; Jacknife Lee even takes the blooper tape of Casey
Casem doing the "fucking dead dog" routine and puts it over some funky
beats. The truly fab Ursula 1000, who twists up the theme to Bedazzled on
his debut disc "The Now Sound Of Ursula 1000" (18th St. Lounge Records),
spins a great night of this stuff at Drinkland in NYC on Thursdays.

br cleve


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Date: 9 Jan 2000 21:20:43 -0800
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Help! RF problems

While I hope to get some advice from the radio station for which I am
producing, I thought someone here might have some ideas (no matter how
far-fetched) to solve my problem.

The house I bought is a 1908 house and has a terrible mix of electrical
hook-ups...mostly ungrounded and unpolarized.

The fact that I have a problem should be no surprise.  Even in my grounded
apartment I had a little RF intrusion into the audio from my turntables. I
only heard it when I brought the volume all the way up, so it was acceptable.

However, I finally hooked up the equipment in my new-to-me old house and
the RFI is way too much to record from.  I grounded the turntables to the
mixer but it is not enough.

Short of having my entire electrical system redone (which I eventually will
do someday), what can I do to minimize the RFI or eliminate it?  If I can't
can't get this fixed, I can't produce a program with records anymore...in
other words, I can't produce a program!

Your ideas, no matter what, are appreciated.

Byron

Byron Caloz
Portland, Oregon, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way
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Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 00:01:31 -0800
From: "mofo2148" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) The Friendly Persuasion Show - Week of 01/10/00

Week of 01/10/00

The Friendly Persuasion Show

Cool and Strange Music Magazine's weekly radio show on Antenna
Internet Radio.
http://www.antennaradio.com/punk/friendlypersuasion/index.htm

Get your RealAudio player ready and tune in anytime during this week
to hear:

The Bran Flakes with the Friendly Persuasion Orchestra and Chorus -
The Friendly Persuasion Theme Song
Sing Along With JFK - Let Us Begin Beguine
Daniel and the Lion's Den - I'm The Referee
The Kids of Widney High - Throw away the Trash
Wild Man Fischer - Back In Time
Wild Man Fischer - Outside The Hospital
Damaskas - A Day In The Life Of Green Acres
Uncle Dale presents Paul Marco as Keaton the Cop - Home on the Strange
Coyle & Sharpe - Eating People at a Death Ritual
The Bran Flakes - A Musical Computer
(Here's) Joey - Traveling With Joey
Charlie & Todd - Unidentified Track #1 from 1971
The Cheese Band - I Like Cheese
Captain Beefheart - The Blimp
The Residents - We're a Happy Family/Bali Ha'i
Wild Man Fischer - Ping Pong Ball Head
The One World Orchestra - The Magnificent
The Naked Rabbit World Power Organization - Bonus Mystery Track
Fess Parker - Goodnight Little Wrangler


Chow,

Otis

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Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 08:05:44 -0500
From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Records today and recently

At 06:58 PM 1/9/00 -0800, [e-mail] wrote:
>
>A Very Merry Electric Christmas to You  Douglas Leedy  Capitol ST 339  This
>may interest the synth crowd.

I have other Doug Leedy stuff (which of course I can't find right now
because I don't alphabetize stuff like this).  But I remember it being
cooler than average.
Anyone know anything about him?

> I don't even think I watched Bonanza, although I
>know the theme song very well

!!!!! Didn't watch Bonanza???  You must be under uh, 40 anyway.
Bonanza WAS TV for me, as a youngster.
It was what the weekend was all about, along with Ed Sullivan.
>
>We Dig Mancini  The Anita Kerr Quartet  RCA  LPM 3428 1965
>I have a feeling I may not like this one, especially because it has an
>endorsement from Arthur Godfrey which calls it "a beautiful album."
>However, I have been interested in vocal groups which do Mancini or music
>by other talented composers/arrangers.

Well if you like that, then you should like this.  I particularly like the
version of Baby Elephant Walk.
Does anyone know anything about Anita Kerr?  I really think she belongs in
the pantheon.  She's done some of my favourite vocal arranging but she also
did some great orchestral arrangements on those Rod McKuen spoken word
records, whatever you think of the concept.

And while I'm on the subject of women in the pantheon, who's Ethel Gabriel?
(Something tells me I'm going to find out that Ethel was a man.)

Nat



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Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 13:20:22 -0000
From: Reader Geoff <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) ENO

Nat Kone mentioned Eno (I got 5 digests over the weekend,  you have all been
busy,  I'm not wired up at home).  And during the time I spent away from the
PC one of my friends played me Brian Eno's version of 'Wimoweh (the lion
sleeps tonight)'.Brian Eno's version of 'Wimoweh (the lion sleeps tonight)'.

When I saw it at the front of the pile ,  I did an immediate double take
(still doing it,  its just too absurd).  Eno has always struck me as being
far too serious and up his own arse to bother with Easy stuff like this,
especially as it was recorded in 73,  when the whole genre would have been
completely beyond the pale.

To be honest its terrible.  the drums sound like a home organ present,  the
instrumentation is uninspired,  and his singing voice is a little on the
Alison Stratton side.  Its not even particularly synthy.  I was very
disappointed when I eventually got my friend to play it.  Considering that
he'd just come from Roxy Music and was soon to record 'Low' the lack of
there anything interesting about it is the most interesting thing about it.

What was he thinking?  Apparantly it sold very badly (perhaps that was
what).


El Maestro Con Queso

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Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 08:27:16 -0500
From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) record habits

At 09:50 PM 1/9/00 -0700, kendoll wrote:
>
>m.ace wrote:
>
>> The other thing I like about alphabetical filing is the juxtapositions it
>> creates.
>
>i too am fond of the shelf-mates that alphabetical filing creates. in my
>collection Barry White is next to Slim Whitman and Andy Williams, Isaac Hayes
>to Heino & Heintje.

Again I feel the need to speak up for the by-genre organizers.
Filing in alphabetical order assumes - and creates - a certain attitude
towards your records.  It means you're usually looking for a particular
record or artist when you approach the shelves.  And it means that
occasionally there'll be a side effect whereby you're looking for Isaac
Hayes but you end up playing Heino.
There's nothing wrong with that.  It's just that it would require a totally
different attitude towards my records for me to do it that way.
And it's not just that on the rare occasion when I think "What do I want to
hear?", that I usually think of a genre before I think of an artist.
It's also that - and here I suspect I'm alone - I look at each of the
shelves as sort of artificial (and random) "limiters" on the number of
records I allow myself to keep in each genre.
So when I look at the two-and-a-half feet of "exotica, Hawaiian, etc" shelf
space and it's almost fully packed, I know that I have to decide which ones
I really don't need.
It's artificial but it works for me.

Nat



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Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 07:50:21 -0600
From: "Darrell Brogdon" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Martin Denny on NPR

Check out today's Morning Edition on NPR for an interview with
Martin Denny!  It runs at 10 minutes before the hour in the second
hour of the show.  Check your local NPR station.


Darrell Brogdon
[e-mail]
The Retro Cocktail Hour
KANU FM 91.5
Broadcasting Hall
The University of Kansas
Lawrence, KS 66045
Visit The Retro Cocktail Hour at:
http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro.html
Listen to The Retro Cocktail Hour at:
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Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 13:51:34 -0000
From: Reader Geoff <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Do I detect some rust?

br cleve said

I think that's what the point was of the discussion. This was started by
questions about why the list had changed, why certain people weren't
posting much or why folks like Jill were leaving or Jack wasn't coming
back.


Another thing is that a couple of years ago,  this was about the only list
looking at Italian soundtracks (I'd just bought Pierro Umiliani's 'Today's
sound',  and this list was the only reference I could find for him on the
search engines) and Exotica and strange Japanese pop,  and now we have
others that have spun off from here (Spectropop and Popnouveau, say),  you
may get them discussed there rather than here.  Its the same with a lot of
things,  theres been talk of micro-genres recently and now some of them have
their own lists and have become genres in their own rights.  And what starts
out as an open armed inclusive thing slowly refines its self image until it
finds itself straightjacketed and dies (or becomes just too boring).

Not that I've seen that here,  I was just thinking in terms of say, house
music that once you could go to a party and hear some hardcore, some trance,
some garage,  a bit of this,  it just evolved and split,  and you end up
stuck listening to banging trance all night or whatever,  and you realise
that the openness that attracted you to it has gone and the mental blinkers
are on and its time to move on.

Again, not that I feel this way about the list yet.  Sad to see Jill go of
course,  but if you're moving on you' e moving on.  if the list is in step
great.  Otherwise Its not the end of the world.

Good to see people coming back after a very slow December,  Keith, Steve,
Nicola, Br Cleve, Citizen K,  as well as the new blood.


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