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exotica-digest      Wednesday, December 29 1999      Volume 02 : Number 576



In This Digest:

Re: (exotica) Cargo cult movement
Re: (exotica) 2000
Re: (exotica) 2000
Re: (exotica) 2000
(exotica) Cargo Cult Defn.
Re: (exotica) Cargo cult movement
(exotica) "What Are You Doing New Years' Eve?"
(exotica) Santa Jones
Re: (exotica) "What Are You Doing New Years' Eve?"
(exotica) [obit] Louis Feraud
(exotica) [obit] Clayton Moore
Re: (exotica) Cargo Cult Defn.
(exotica) New on the Space Age Pop Page
Re: (exotica) Cargo Cult Defn.
Re: (exotica) Cargo Cult Defn.
(exotica) Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 17:10:46 -0800
(exotica) [obit] Clayton Moore
Re: (exotica) [obit] Clayton Moore
Re: (exotica) [obit] Clayton Moore
Re: (exotica) [obit] Clayton Moore
(exotica) recent finds
(exotica) RE: New Year's show
Re: (exotica) recent finds
Re: (exotica) [obit] Clayton Moore
FW: (exotica) Cargo Cult Defn.
(exotica) Re: The Lords of Vinyl Smileth Upon Me Xmas Morn'
(exotica) Ampex historical notes
Re: (exotica) [obit] Clayton Moore
Re: (exotica) [obit] Clayton Moore
(exotica) Share the Wealth
Re: (exotica) recent finds (sorta)
Re: (exotica) recent finds
(exotica) More recent finds on a Weds

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Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 13:55:35 -0500
From: "Lou Smith" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Cargo cult movement

telstar <[e-mail]> wrote:
I read this article with great interest and with some surprise as I
hadn't
heard of Cargo Cults in years. Anyone interested in reading more about
these very bizarre millenarian movements might want to track down a copy
of
Friedrich Steinbauer's "Melanesian Cargo Cults" (University of
Queensland
Press. 1979).
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In the mean time, while tracking down this book, y'all may want to
visit the Jon Frum homepage at:
http://www.altnews.com.au/cargocult/jonfrum/

Also of interest (for those who think the west is immune to the
lure of cargo cult-like thinking) is:
http://www.physics.brocku.ca/etc/cargo_cult_science.html
"Cargo Cult Science", Richard Feynman's 1974 Caltech commencement
address.


- -Lou







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Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 14:59:43 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) 2000

In a message dated 12/28/99 12:31:03 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< 2000 Zero Zero >>

party's over we're outta time!

hack!

tb


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Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 14:58:21 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) 2000

In a message dated 12/28/99 12:31:03 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< 2000 Shoes >>

that is a new tune out by Imell DeMarco

tb


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Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 14:57:26 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) 2000

In a message dated 12/28/99 12:31:03 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< I entered "2000" in the song/search field at allmusic.com and came up
with: >>

2000 Flushes

and that is what you will hear if you eat some bad poy on new years eve.

tb


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Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 15:10:55 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Cargo Cult Defn.

Cargo cults are usually revivalist, and in some cases messianic and
millenarian, movements found among certain peoples indigenous to Oceania. The
word cargo refers to foreign goods possessed by Europeans; cult adherents
believe that such goods belong to themselves and that, with the help of
ancestral spirits, the goods can be returned to them through magico-religious
means. Some cult prophets promise that the arrival of cargo will herald a
period of prosperity and well-being.
Such movements represent the efforts of local inhabitants to cope with
problems arising from contact with foreign cultures acculturation. They first
appeared during the late 19th century among Papua New Guinea and other
Oceanic peoples impressed by the abundance of material wealth they saw. The
Papuan Vailala Madness of 1919 had iconoclastic elements; like some of the
cults, it reflected the merging of Christian missionary teachings with
indigenous mythological beliefs. The movements received new impetus during
World War II. In a Irian Jaya (western New Guinea) cult of 1942, entire
villages were organized into an imitation army, with officers and dummy
equipment, in the hope that this would be transformed into real equipment.
Followers of John Frum on Tanna (Vanuatu, former, New Hebrides) built landing
strips and warehouses in anticipation of the arrival of air cargo. All such
movements draw on traditional custom, experience, and ideology. Essentially,
they are attempts to fill the gap between new wants and the available means
of satisfying them. The movements, some of which are politically oriented,
demonstrate a people's resilience and imagination in coping with new and
difficult problems.



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Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 15:16:30 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Mimi Mayer)
Subject: Re: (exotica) Cargo cult movement

And around 1890 there was a cargo cult movement among Native Americans
called the Ghost Dance. Started with the prophesies of a Paiute named
Wovoka: all whites would vanish, game would be plentiful again and the
ancestors would walk the earth if people danced the traditional Ghost
Dance. Some followers wore Ghost Shirts they believed to be magically
bulletproof. The movement culminated with the massacre at Wounded Knee
where, I think, 160 people died. A classic history of the tragedy is _The
Ghost Dance Religion_ by James Mooney. Odd this should come up... eleven
years ago today I driving to Wounded Knee, a place of unsettling yet moving
beauty.

Professor Mayhem




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Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 16:24:58 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) "What Are You Doing New Years' Eve?"

As the song says, and feels relevant this year, lets have a short thread to
tie the loose ends together. Lots of hype, but is it really so spectacular?
...   Here's my plan: Go to a party and hear the keyboardist from Astroslut
accompany Suzette Sundae in a  performance of standards. Go back to the
house. Get wife and kids. Go to neighbors at 11:55pm with Mike Flowers and
Deodato taped. Put tape on, break out champagne. Party like its 2000...You?
Curiously/Jimmy Botticelli


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Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 16:39:41 EST
From: "Jane Fondle" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Santa Jones

Also, my (now embarrassed!) pal DJJimmyBee gaveth me QUINCY JONES-IN THE
HEAT OF THE NIGHT on V.i.n.y.l....
Betcha y'all want to be his friend, too!
HHEEheheh, and sorry for the oversight! Jane Fullaverselftoday
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Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 17:01:14 EST
From: "Jane Fondle" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) "What Are You Doing New Years' Eve?"

>As the song says, and feels relevant this year, lets have a short thread to
>tie the loose ends together. Lots of hype, but is it really so spectacular?
>...   Here's my plan: Go to a party and hear the keyboardist from Astroslut
>accompany Suzette Sundae in a  performance of standards. Go back to the
>house. Get wife and kids. Go to neighbors at 11:55pm with Mike Flowers and
>Deodato taped. Put tape on, break out champagne. Party like its 2000...You?
>Curiously/Jimmy Botticelli

I'll be holed up with a shotgun and a quart!
Kidding, I'll be at said party, praying the terrorist don't get to the Space
Needle anyway!!!!
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Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 17:23:57 -0500
From: "Lou Smith" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) [obit] Louis Feraud

Tuesday, 28 December, 1999, 18:19 GMT
 Designer  Louis Feraud: Suffered Alzheimer's disease
French fashion designer Louis Feraud, who designed clothes for Brigitte
Bardot in the 1960s, has died aged 79.

He died at his Paris home after a four year battle against Alzheimer's
disease.

Feraud was born the son of a baker in Arles, southern France in 1921 and
left his job as a ski instructor in the Alps to open his first boutique
in the 1950s in the French Riviera city of Cannes, where he sold clothes
to the sun-worshipping jet set.

His first success came in 1955 when Brigitte Bardot walked into his shop
and purchased a  girlish, white pique sun dress.

"Photographers and journalists followed her," he once said. "Within a
week, every woman up and down  the Cote d'Azur was  wearing my little
white dress. We sold 500 of  them in a matter of days."

In 1956 he opened a boutique in Paris for clients including actresses
Kim Novak and  Ingrid Bergman as well as Danielle  Mitterrand, wife of
the late French president  Francois Mitterrand.

Feraud made a niche for himself with bright, graphic clothes that ranged
from fairly conservative suits to wild, fandango-ruffled, Spanish-style
dresses.

As much artist as couturier, he kept painting throughout most his life,
crafting stylish nudes,  landscapes and  flowers which were exhibited
and sold in  Paris and New York.

His clever and amusing black and white geometrics and graphics often
went directly into his outfits, and some of his most  beautiful,
luminous scarves were his own  colourful designs.

"What I always wanted to do was please women," he once said with a wink.

Feraud also created several perfumes for the American company Avon and
made contributions to the work of other designers, including Daniel
Hechter and Jean-Louis Scherrer.

After he retired in 1995 after being struck by Alzheimer's disease, his
business was run  by his daughter Kiki - his only child - his ex-wife
Zizi, and colleagues until earlier this year when it was taken over by
Dutch firm Secon.

He will be buried in his home town of Arles.
http://www.louis-feraud.co.uk/




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Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 17:28:27 -0500
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) [obit] Clayton Moore

    LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Clayton Moore, television's ``Lone Ranger''
who delighted children of the 1950s with his hearty cry of ``Hi-Yo,
Silver,'' has died. He was 85.
    Moore's film career stretched back to the 1930s, but essentially
he was known only as ``The Lone Ranger'' in the TV Western series
of that name and a couple of movie spinoffs.
    He continued to appear in costume in personal appearances for
decades after the show's heyday, and even fought and eventually won
a court battle over the rights to the image.
    ``Once I got the Lone Ranger role, I didn't want any other,''
Moore said in a 1985 Los Angeles Times interview. ``I like playing
the good guy.'' He said that as a child, `I wanted to be either a
cowboy or a policeman. As the Lone Ranger, I got to be both.''
    ``The Lone Ranger'' was originally a radio program and the basis
of a few low-budget films in the 1930s. In its TV form, it was one
of the first shows filmed especially for the medium, debuting in
1949 and running for eight years, not counting endless reruns.
    Moore appeared in all but a couple of seasons in the early '50s
when he sat out a contract dispute with the producers and actor
John Hart replaced him.
    The Ranger, with his Indian companion Tonto, rode through the
West bringing law and order in every half-hour episode. Moore liked
to say that the character embodied a creed that ``everyone has
within himself the power to make this a better world.''
    The masked Ranger disguised himself because he was the lone
survivor of a group of Texas Rangers who were ambushed by a gang of
bad guys; Tonto had nursed him back to health.
    The show was ABC's biggest hit for a time in the early '50s,
when the fledgling network was far overshadowed by CBS and NBC.
Fans loved the show's trademarks: the opening theme, from ``The
William Tell Overture''; the Ranger's horse, Silver, described by
the show's announcer as ``a fiery horse with the speed of light'';
Tonto's name for the Ranger, ``kemo sabe''; the silver bullets; the
Ranger's habits of never shooting to kill and never removing his
mask, unless the plot had him donning some other disguise.
    It was finally the courts that forced Moore to remove the mask,
when producers planning a new, big-screen version of ``The Lone
Ranger'' got a court order against Moore's use of the character in
1979.
    The move brought Moore, who was reduced to doing personal
appearances in a pair of wraparound sunglasses, an avalanche of
sympathetic publicity and fan support. The film ``The Legend of the
Lone Ranger,'' starring Klinton Spilsbury as the Ranger, came out
in 1981 and promptly flopped. In 1984, a court lifted the
restraining order.
    Moore was born Sept. 14, 1914 -- some sources give an earlier
year -- in Chicago, son of a real estate developer.
    He worked in a circus trapeze act and as a model before heading
to Hollywood, first appearing in movie serials such as ``Dick Tracy
Returns,'' 1938.
    He was largely retired in recent years, living at his home in
Calabasas. He and his late wife, former actress Sally Allen, had
one daughter, Gwen.
    ``I'll wear the white hat the rest of my life,'' Moore said in
1985. ``The Lone Ranger is a great character, a great American.
Playing him made me a better person.''
http://allmovie.com/cg/x.dll?UID=5:15:23|PM&p=avg&sql=B50283
http://www.outofthenight.com/moore2.html
http://www.westerns.com/stars/clayton_moore/index.htm
http://members.tripod.com/~ClaytonMoore/index.html
http://www.texasranger.org/ClaytonMoore1.htm

The Lone Ranger Creed
as told by Clayton Moore

Followers of the "Lone Ranger" believe  . . .

That to have a friend, a man must be one.
That all men are created equal and that everyone has within himself the power to make this
a better world.
That God put the firewood there, but every man must gather and light it himself.
In being prepared physically, mentally and morally to fight when necessary, for that which is
right.
That a man should make the most of what equipment he has.
That "This government, of the people, by the people, and for the people" shall live always.
That men should live by the rule of what is best for the greatest number.
That sooner or later, somewhere, somehow, we must settle with the world and make
payment for what we have taken.
That all things change but truth, and that truth alone lives on forever.
In my Creator, my country, my fellow man.





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Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 18:38:03 -0500
From: cheryl <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Cargo Cult Defn.

[e-mail] wrote:
>
> Cargo cults are usually revivalist, and in some cases messianic and
> millenarian, movements found among certain peoples indigenous to Oceania. The
> word cargo refers to foreign goods possessed by Europeans; cult adherents
> believe that such goods belong to themselves and that, with the help of
> ancestral spirits, the goods can be returned to them through magico-religious
> means. Some cult prophets promise that the arrival of cargo will herald a
> period of prosperity and well-being.

> In a Irian Jaya (western New Guinea) cult of 1942, entire
> villages were organized into an imitation army, with officers and dummy
> equipment, in the hope that this would be transformed into real equipment.

Okay, so if I put out a bunch of photocopies of 60s and 70s LP covers,
does this mean the real LPs will magically appear on my doorstep?
Perhaps this whole phenomenon should be thought about in more detail.
Just consider the possibilities!!

cheryl (who will be spending New Year's Eve at home with a bottle of
champagne, some strange 60s movies, and Brian)


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Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 17:53:00
From: Brad Bigelow <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) New on the Space Age Pop Page

Some updates to the Space Age Pop Page:

    - New biography pages on Bobby Hammack and Bill Justis.
    - More information added to biographies of Muzzy Marcellino, Henri Rene,
and Julius Wechter
    - Numerous birth/death updates, including Leo Addeo, Harry Breuer, and Irv
Cottler, courtesy of the Social Security Death database at
http://ssdi.genealogy.rootsweb.com/

Check them out at:

http://home.earthlink.net/~spaceagepop/whatsnew.htm


Brad


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Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 19:03:47 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Cargo Cult Defn.

In a message dated 12/28/99 3:39:19 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< Okay, so if I put out a bunch of photocopies of 60s and 70s LP covers,
 does this mean the real LPs will magically appear on my doorstep?
 Perhaps this whole phenomenon should be thought about in more detail.
 Just consider the possibilities!! >>

No, no.  You have to make them out of natural objects that simulate what the
material possession would look like.

So start digging in your garden and make plant and earthen LP cover
likenesses on your deck!


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Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 19:08:07 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Cargo Cult Defn.

In a message dated 12/28/99 4:04:54 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< So start digging in your garden and make plant and earthen LP cover
 likenesses on your deck! >>

BTW, what natually occuring object looks like whipped cream.  And I will need
a lot of it, because I am planning on the full scale model.  Not just the LP
cover.

Think big!

TB


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Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 18:07:54 -0700
From: Claudia Wilson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 17:10:46 -0800

Does anyone have a exe. or zipped file of Real Audio that is NOT THE
CURRENT ONE?
 I can't get into my favorite site...www.wanderers.com to play .ra files =
 since I upgraded.
 I am sick about it.

 The previous one worked great. Please help me..




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Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 21:16:00 -0500
From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) [obit] Clayton Moore

http://www.cnn.com/1999/SHOWBIZ/TV/12/28/obit.moore/index.html



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Date: 28 Dec 1999 18:45:33 -0800
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) [obit] Clayton Moore

At 05:28 PM 28-12-99 -0500, The Associated Press wrote:
>    LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Clayton Moore, television's ``Lone Ranger''
>who delighted children of the 1950s with his hearty cry of ``Hi-Yo,
>Silver,'' has died.

Yes, but will he be buried with a mask?  And will his tombstone say,
instead of "Clayton Moore" these words: "Who was that masked man?"

Byron

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Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 21:52:14 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) [obit] Clayton Moore

In a message dated 12/28/99 9:47:55 PM Eastern Standard Time, [e-mail]
writes:

<< Yes, but will he be buried with a mask?  And will his tombstone say,
 instead of "Clayton Moore" these words: "Who was that masked man?" >>

funny you asked that becasue they stripped him of his mask about 10 years
ago.  said it was copywrite infringement or something.  anyone else remember
the details?


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Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 22:40:24 -0600
From: "Darrell Brogdon" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) [obit] Clayton Moore

> funny you asked that becasue they stripped him of his mask about 10 years
> ago.  said it was copywrite infringement or something.  anyone else
> remember the details?

It was prior to the release of "The Legend of the Lone Ranger" in the
late '70s.  Seems the producers thought having him appear in the mask
would detract from their movie, which was a real stinkeroo, BTW.

People forget Clayton Moore also played another famous masked man in
"Ghost of Zorro", a '40s Republic serial.

Coincidentally, AMC today ran "The Lone Ranger and the Lost City of
Gold", with Clayton Moore and Jay Silverheels (and music by Les
Baxter!).

RIP, Masked Man.

Darrell Brogdon
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Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 03:09:08 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) recent finds

I've never posted anything like this before because I find it a bit boring to
hear what others have scored but this past weekend has renewed my faith in
thrifting records
I found one trove of 31 records of which about 25 were mint or near
then found several smaller scores of two to ten records each
an hour east of Los Angeles and then around Modesto
(90 miles from San Fran)

31 of them were 5 for $1.00
some were 25 cents each and some were 50 cents each

Mostly they were common easy listening records but
Highlights include

Peggy Lee Lee Goes Latin
Martin Denny Latin Village
The Space Age from Raybestos
Bert Kaempfert Christmas Wonderland
Ferrante & Teicher Snowbound
Enoch Light Great Themes from Film Vol 1 and 2
Mancini encore! with Beatles medley
George Shearing Quintet Latin Lace
King Richard's Flugel Knights Something Super!

so these can still be found near major metropolitan areas for under $1.00


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Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 03:42:15 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) RE: New Year's show

> I am DJing for the best NY show in town

My apologies for all who thought this was a NEW YORK gig

the abbreviation is for NEW YEAR'S not New York

the show is in the Mission district of San Fran and I still have some tickets
for it if you need them

cheers
Otto
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Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 07:26:07 -0800 (PST)
From: chuck <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) recent finds

- --- [e-mail] wrote:
> I found one trove of 31 records of which about 25 were mint or near
> Mostly they were common easy listening records but
> Highlights include
>
> The Space Age from Raybestos

Otto or anyone ,   What is this album like???


> King Richard's Flugel Knights Something Super!

I can't wait to go get this its been sitting a few blocks from where I work
for a month or so

Easy listening in the Big Easy
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Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 10:30:42 -0500
From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) [obit] Clayton Moore

>funny you asked that becasue they stripped him of his mask about 10 years
>ago.  said it was copywrite infringement or something.  anyone else remember
>the details?


According to the article:

Even after the cancellation, Moore continued to wear a mask in public
appearances until 1979, when producers of a new film version of "The Lone
Ranger" won a court order forcing him to replace his mask with a pair of
wraparound sunglasses.
"Once I got the Lone Ranger role, I didn't want any other," Moore said in a
1985 Los Angeles Times interview. "I like playing the good guy." He said
that as a child, "I wanted to be either a cowboy or a policeman. As the
Lone Ranger, I got to be both."
But Moore had his comeuppance. The 1981 movie, entitled "The Legend of the
Lone Ranger" and starring Klinton Spilsbury in the mask, was a resounding
flop. In 1984, a court lifted the restraining order."



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Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 10:42:55 -0500
From: "Rajnai, Charles, NNAD" <[e-mail]>
Subject: FW: (exotica) Cargo Cult Defn.

>=20
> BTW, what natually occuring object looks like whipped cream. =20
> And I will need=20
> a lot of it, because I am planning on the full scale model. =20
> Not just the LP=20
> cover.


Try Algified river foam from the base of a waterfall....on Bali.






visit=20
THE BRIMSTONES Eternal Surf and Garage Damnation=20
at http://www.brimstones.com
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=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4
surfing the chaos,
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Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 09:31:48 -0500
From: Peter Ledebur <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: The Lords of Vinyl Smileth Upon Me Xmas Morn'

My baby scored me a loooovely (stereo) copy of the Modesty Blaise
soundtrack.


Avoid the Wacky Lounge Christmas CD put out by Muzak(!). Its low price
does make it tempting, but with the exception of a few circa-'70s Syd Dale
tracks and one or two others, it sounds like it was recorded in very recent
years. Not too wacky at all.


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Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 10:05:17 -0000
From: "PETFIELD, Hugh" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Ampex historical notes

Hello,
Saw a good documentary on TV over the holiday break, about Bing Crosby.  I
was particularly interested in a bit about the immediate post-war years.
They mentioned that tape recorders had been invented in Germany in the 30's,
and that after the war, two machines were brought back to America.  Seemed
to say that Bing put money into a new firm called Ampex which started to
make recorders, which he then used to prerecord radio shows, which had
hitherto been put out live as there had not been a good enough recording
medium.  There was a clip from a late 40's film which showed Bing playing
the piano and singing, and recording onto a tape recorder which looked to be
about 3ft x 2ft, and 9-10" deep.  To illustrate other artists who benefitted
from the introduction of tape recorders, there were historic and current day
clips of Les Paul.

Can any exotica reader add any more background detail to the Ampex story, or
point me towards a good websource?

Many thanks, Hugh.


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Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 13:44:07 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) [obit] Clayton Moore

In a message dated 12/28/99 11:43:40 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< Coincidentally, AMC today ran "The Lone Ranger and the Lost City of
 Gold", with Clayton Moore and Jay Silverheels (and music by Les
 Baxter!).

 RIP, Masked Man. >>

AMC jumps right on board when these folks die ----- don't they.


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Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 13:46:14 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) [obit] Clayton Moore

In a message dated 12/29/99 10:36:02 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< producers of a new film version of "The Lone
 Ranger" won a court order forcing him to replace his mask with a pair of
 wraparound sunglasses. >>

i remember seeing pictures of that (maybe it moved me into my profession!).

i have been reading and it does sound like the producers    WERE SUCCESSFUL
for a time but the decision was reversed.



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Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 11:24:02 -0800 (PST)
From: Jane Fondle <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Share the Wealth

This real audio thing is too much fun!
Because someone was kind enough to share this with me,
I thought I say tune in to:



http://www.weirdsville.com/

In an hour alone, I've heard exotica, psyche, The
Shaggs, Astrosounds/101Strings, etc.  Cool stuff!
Primed for INCORRECT MUSIC next on WFMU...
Jane Fondle

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Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 15:52:03 -0500
From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) recent finds (sorta)

At 03:09 AM 12/29/99 EST, [e-mail] wrote:
>
>I've never posted anything like this before because I find it a bit boring
to
>hear what others have scored but this past weekend has renewed my faith in
>thrifting records

I see.  It's boring until you're the one finding the records.

I could never understand why a list of thrift store finds was any more
boring than a bunch of new CD's that someone bought, unless of course
you're totally focussed on hearing about music that you too can go out and
immediately purchase.

But it seems it is more boring, for most people on the list anyway.

Once upon a time, the "recent finds" posts were an opportunity to talk
about music, to share the things we were "unearthing".  It was like
everyone was on their own anthropological dig, uncovering their own
alternate history of recorded music and this was the place you came to
learn about the things you'd uncovered.

Now it's basically "I got this new compilation.  It's at CDNow.  Go get
it".  That was always part of the list but now it's pretty well taken over.
 And if you post a recent LP find, unless it's reissued or brand new, the
lack of response is deafening.

I don't know what's making me so nostalgic and even moralistic this
afternoon.

But I miss those "recent finds" posts.  And I especially miss the responses
they occasionally generated.  It seems like now, everyone knows everything
and they assume that everyone else does too.

Which is kind of ironic.  There was always an interesting tension here
between the kind of discoveries one made with CD-compilations and the kind
made by digging through bins of old LP's.

Not that they're mutually exclusive; a lot of us do both.  But I do think
they represent different ways of discovery.

One is more about needing to discover it for yourself.  It's not the better
way, just a different kind of obsession.  I'm not sure what that's about.
A lot of people think that's NOT about music and I don't think I'd disagree
with them.  I sometimes think it's about "context".

Sometimes I hear a perfectly beautiful CD-compilation but somehow the
"decontextualized" presentation is alienating to me.

In any case, different types of discovery lead to different kinds of
discussion so I guess it's really not ironic at all that when people stop
sharing their recent LP finds, the discussion becomes a bit less.... active.

Okay that's my premillenial nostalgic whine.  I'll respond to the recent
finds in a separate post.

Nat






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Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 16:09:09 -0500
From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) recent finds

At 03:09 AM 12/29/99 EST, [e-mail] wrote:
>
>31 of them were 5 for $1.00
>some were 25 cents each and some were 50 cents each

That's the way it should be.

>Highlights include
>
>King Richard's Flugel Knights Something Super!

I was just listening to another one of their LP's, "Sign of the Times".
How would you describe that Tijuana Brass beat, that fast polka shuffle
thing?
For me, that beat gets real tired, real fast.
I love the bright Now sound of the Fluegel Knights and their ilk. Trombones
Unlimited comes to mind as a very similar group.  In fact, I'd have thought
they were the same basic outfit (like "Living Jazz" and "The Brass Ring")
but they have different producers and arrangers.
On "my" LP, the Fluegel Knights are produced by Bob Thompson, a producer
that some others here can tell you all about.
Anyway, for me the Fluegel Knights provide great grist for compilation
tapes but the strange mix of material and the preponderance of that fast
beat, always make their LP's teeter on that edge between keepers and losers.

But someday - maybe this year - when I get my CD recorder, they'll probably
be "archived" and sent packing, along with hopefully another thousand LP's.
That's this year's project.

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Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 14:38:06 -0800 (PST)
From: chuck <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) More recent finds on a Weds

I really enjoyed the old list discussion about recent lp finds.  There was so
much to learn from these posts and all the vinyl collectors seemed to be so
knowlegable and so willing to contribute their knowledge to the list.  There
was Jessica from Pennsylvania who use to come up with so much.  Even if you
knew the stuff it was interesting to learn what was available at what price,
like Ottos past today.

 A few years ago one of  the more influential posts for me came from Jill
who was in las Vegas and was happy to find an Association album.  I scratched
my head wondering if the Association album was that good.  Because of this
post I know better.

I personally don't respond to some of the vinyl posts because I am pretty
unfamiliar with many of the lps.  Perhaps the list membership has changed so
much that people are not responding to your posts Nat because they too are
unfamiliar with your finds or they have discussed the artists before.  I
don't know,  I really don't have a strong view point on why its changed.

I buy vinyl on 6th sense or knowledge glleamed from the recent finds post.
Today I purchased

Encounter With Time   The Tommy Vig Orhestra  (This looks space/age but I
don't think it is, i don't know a thing about this guy)

Lightly Latin Poco Loco

Heartstings   Dean Elliot

Sleepy Serenade by Claude Thornhill,   I've always loved "Snowfall"

Christmas with Denny Davis & the Nashville Brass

Sign of the Times  King Richards Fluegal Knights  (Thanks to Otto's post and
Nat's reply)
King Richards Fluegal Knights on Broadway

Big Fat Brass  the Surrey Brass
A Taste of Brass  v/a with Hugo Montenegro, Pete Rugolo,  Jerry Fielding,
Richard Hayman & Jim Tyler

I don't know much about the above and my 6th sense didn't ring on these. They
were cheap but I don't expect much.    Any advice on them is welcome .

I also got couple of Baja Marimbas & a couple of Coniffs.

I got a lot ofcds in the mail the last few weeks but like lp posts,  posting
on cds hardly gets any discussion.    If after playing them, any do stand
out,  I will post on them.  Cds are usually an exceptional find like lps
which are rare and many times better than any of the cd releases

Anyway the list seems a lot different to me these days.  The old digests
reveal to me focused posts on particular lp finds and exciting new cd
releases (even back in 96).

This is the best list around by far!  And there is something very wonderful
about the variety of topics dixcussed on this list from straight ahead
exotica to any type of music or any subject under the sun ie cargo cults

Viva the Exotica List!!

Easy listening in the Big Easy
Chuck

- --- Nat Kone <[e-mail]> wrote:


> Once upon a time, the "recent finds" posts were an opportunity to talk
> about music, to share the things we were "unearthing".  It was like
> everyone was on their own anthropological dig, uncovering their own
> alternate history of recorded music and this was the place you came to
> learn about the things you'd uncovered.
>
> Now it's basically "I got this new compilation.  It's at CDNow.  Go get
> it".  That was always part of the list but now it's pretty well taken over.
>  And if you post a recent LP find, unless it's reissued or brand new, the
> lack of response is deafening.
>
> I
> But I miss those "recent finds" posts.  And I especially miss the responses
> they occasionally generated.  It seems like now, everyone knows everything
> and they assume that everyone else does too.
>
> Which is kind of ironic.  There was always an interesting tension here
> between the kind of discoveries one made with CD-compilations and the kind
> made by digging through bins of old LP's.
>
> Not that they're mutually exclusive; a lot of us do both.  But I do think
> they represent different ways of discovery.
>
>
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