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exotica-digest          Friday, July 23 1999          Volume 02 : Number 456



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Re: (exotica) Western Swing
RE: (exotica) Western Swing
(exotica) WoW! Fun site!
(exotica) Finds...
RE: (exotica) Western Swing
Re: (exotica) Finds...
(exotica) Studio 2 and taste
(exotica) Riddle me this,Batman...?
RE: (exotica) Western Swing
Re: (exotica) Western Swing
Re: RE: (exotica) Western Swing
RE: (exotica) Where have all the good Mancinis gone?
(exotica) Radio, Help!
(exotica) Western Swing
RE: (exotica) Studio 2 and taste
RE: (exotica) Where have all the good Mancinis gone?
Re: (exotica) OST One From the Heart by Tom Waits
Re: (exotica) Studio 2 stereo / Phase 4 / MFP etc
(exotica) Mantovani/Chacksfield/Leferve/Ros/Aldritch/etc
RE: (exotica) Studio 2 stereo / Phase 4 / MFP etc
Re: (exotica) Western Swing
Re: (exotica) Mai Tai in Ultra Lounge?
Re: (exotica) Studio 2 stereo / Phase 4 / MFP etc
(exotica) radio, help!
(exotica) Test Card Classics......
(exotica) peter thomas soundtrack for "uncle tom's cabin"
(exotica) Re: El Chicles
Re: (exotica) Studio 2 stereo
Re:  (exotica) Test Card Classics......
Re: (exotica) Studio 2 stereo
(exotica) Test Card Classics......
Re: (exotica) radio, help!
RE: (exotica) Western Swing
Re: (exotica) Western Swing
(exotica) Exotiquarium album cover art book

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Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 09:39:00 -0400
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Western Swing

<< I hope that no one will disagre when I say that Country, Classical,
hardcore
 electronica, or Rock (with several noticeable exceptions) have little or
no
 place in this forum. >>
From the Hippest! >>My opinion has always been that anything goes, exotica
or not.  Usually, the
subject line gives a hint as to what the post is all about.
If it is of no interest, hit the delete key.  Please, no insisting that
suggestions for discussion have no place here, that ain't cool.  Threads
rarely last more than a couple of days, so if it ain't your bag, sorry,
bud.
Yee Haw :)

That's why this BasicHipCat RULES!  I agree...plus, anybody who knows
anything about EXOTICA knows that its roots are in classical music, with
Ravel and Stravinsky!  So, it CERTAINLY has a place here.  Hardcore...well,
Throbbing Gristle helped launch an interest in at least the _covers_ with
their exotica spoofs!  County, hell ya', bring it on if it's cool!   FAR
EAST MEETS WEST..Tak Shindo, is BRILLIANT!  Rock...hell, the New York Dolls
do "Stranded in the Jungle"(a stretch, I know...but) Electronica...I think
FANTASTIC PLASTIC MACHINE and others who delve and dabble in it would take
exception...I know I do!
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Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 14:45:20 +0100
From: Andrew Edgar <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Western Swing

I Love to cause a furore







<< I hope that no one will disagre when I say that Country, Classical,
hardcore
 electronica, or Rock (with several noticeable exceptions) have little or
no
 place in this forum. >>
From the Hippest! >>My opinion has always been that anything goes, exotica
or not.  Usually, the
subject line gives a hint as to what the post is all about.
If it is of no interest, hit the delete key.  Please, no insisting that
suggestions for discussion have no place here, that ain't cool.  Threads
rarely last more than a couple of days, so if it ain't your bag, sorry,
bud.
Yee Haw :)

That's why this BasicHipCat RULES!  I agree...plus, anybody who knows
anything about EXOTICA knows that its roots are in classical music, with
Ravel and Stravinsky!  So, it CERTAINLY has a place here.  Hardcore...well,
Throbbing Gristle helped launch an interest in at least the _covers_ with
their exotica spoofs!  County, hell ya', bring it on if it's cool!   FAR
EAST MEETS WEST..Tak Shindo, is BRILLIANT!  Rock...hell, the New York Dolls
do "Stranded in the Jungle"(a stretch, I know...but) Electronica...I think
FANTASTIC PLASTIC MACHINE and others who delve and dabble in it would take
exception...I know I do!
Jane Fondle-all miss thangs!









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Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 08:42:34 -0400
From: "Nathan Miner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) WoW! Fun site!

Check out the cartoon themes.......

http://soundamerica.com/

I just realized that my love of this "goofy/weird/non-mainstream.......exot=
ic!" music comes from all those great theme songs from the cartoons I =
watched as a kid.  Spiderman I've always *LOVED*, then there's Speed =
Racer, SuperFriends, Scooby Doo, etc.=20

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Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 09:42:08 -0400
From: "Nathan Miner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Finds...

A quick hop to the Goodwill turned up a battered copy of Jimmy Smith's =
"Monster" on Verve - I guess the "Monster" in question is his huge organ =
that they show set-up in the recording studio???

Anyway, I was pleasantly surprised to find out that after I wiped off the =
mold (The cover looks like it was victim to a leaky basement) and grimaced =
at finding "feelable" and what seemed to be deep scratches throughout the =
vinyl - the damn thing actually plays decently and doesn't skip at all!!  =
Whoopee!

Had to hear this one since he covers Goldfinger and the Munsters theme =
song.  Fun stuff.

- - Nate




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Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 10:00:59 -0400 (EDT)
From: Ben Waugh <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Western Swing

- --- Andrew Edgar <[e-mail]> wrote:

Stunning. Almost as much fun as burping in
restaurants.
>
> I Love to cause a furore
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Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 10:01:01 -0400 (EDT)
From: Ben Waugh <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Finds...

Is this the same guy who did The Monster in the
Basement? - A man. A big organ. In the basement. Great
record.

- --- Nathan Miner <[e-mail]> wrote:

> A quick hop to the Goodwill turned up a battered
> copy of Jimmy Smith's "Monster" on Verve - I guess
the "Monster" in question is his huge organ that
> they show set-up in the recording studio???


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Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 15:13:01 +0100
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Subject: (exotica) Studio 2 and taste

Peter Hipwell has (is) lovingly compiling a Studio 2 Discography (and a
Phase 4 discography).  Here is the URL:
http://www.cogsci.ed.ac.uk/~petehip/home.html
I think it was his post about the pages that started the phase 4 thread,
that came back through studio 2 to the same place.  Indeed they are both
mighty diverse labels.  Mighty and  Diverse.  You would have to be a
complete completist to want the lot on either,  I wouldn't buy anything
on either label just because it was on the label.  But there are some
really great records on both.

I think my favourite Studio 2 release must be (something like) 'Norrie
Paramor plays the hits of Cliff Richard and the Shadows in a Latin
Style'.  But maybe it would be David Rose 'Holiday for Strings'.  I
don't know.  Depends on the time of day.

One more thing,  I've said it before, there is no-one on the list with
grounds for criticising anyone else on the list on the grounds of taste,
look what you've signed up to for Christ's sake.

Next thing you know he'll be calling Lou 'Doctor Death',  and then where
will we be...............


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Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 07:19:24 PDT
From: "Albert Fish" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Riddle me this,Batman...?

Hello,
  New York City has plenty o' groovy record stores, but it seems they price
their vinyl with "Goldmine", (or perhaps charge even more). Anyone know how
to deal with, (or rather, deal down), dinosaurs that are sitting on treasure
but charge twice their weight in gold? I found a guy that wants $50 for
Other Worlds, Other Sounds! Some places have great vinyl, but $25 for Leo
Addeo's "Stereo Action" lp seems appalling. Any clues?

Also, Anyone have Space Age Music for a Space Suite, (buy a guy who's last
name is Christian)?  Anythoughts on worth? Do you like the music, etc?

Thanks heaps

Heavy Kevy


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Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 15:19:04 +0100
From: Andrew Edgar <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Western Swing

Saucy

Stunning. Almost as much fun as burping in
restaurants.
>
> I Love to cause a furore
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Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 09:39:13 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Mimi Mayer)
Subject: Re: (exotica) Western Swing

>Queried  AlaMoRitz:
>> BTW: I LOVE Western Swing. We should really open a little
>>discussion on that... Any suggestions?
>
>Bob Wills and His Texas Playboys are, IMHO, the only name you need to
>know. Buy his earlier stuff. He made recordings in his twilight years, and
>they're just sad. Look for 30s-40s recordings of San Antonio Rose and
>Faded Love, which Wills wrote, the instros Big Beaver and Steel Guitar
>Rag, plus Cherokee Maiden, My Window Faces the South, and Roly-Poly, a
>jumpin' song about a fat little boy's appetite: "Roly-Poly, Daddy's little
>fatty. Bet he's gonna be a man some day."
>
>Austin's own Don Walser is a fine guitarist and an amazing yodeler who
>occasionally slides into Western Swing, though he's more into cowboy songs
>and border tunes. An astonishing fiddler, Howard Kalish, played with him
>when he performed as Don Walser and the Pure Texas Band -- I dunno -- in
>the 80s? Walser's CDs on Watermelon Records are his best.
>
>Roy Benson and Asleep at the Wheel are doing their damnedest to keep
>Western Swing alive too. Funny, for a while every time I flew in and outta
>town, I'd see Benson and crew at the baggage carrousel. Like Walser,
>Benson moves into more straight-ahead C&W stuff.
>
>You know, to have the real  Western Swing experience, you gotta know how
>to do the Texas Two Step. Nothing like going to a Texas dance hall where
>everyone sweats and laughs under their cowboy hats and slams another
>Shiner Boch under their gigantic buckles, whoopin' it up on a Saturday
>night.
>
>Yeeeeeehaw!
>Mimi





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Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 10:32:15 -0400
From: "Nathan Miner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: RE: (exotica) Western Swing

<<I Love to cause a furore<<

 A What??????







<< I hope that no one will disagre when I say that Country, Classical,
hardcore
 electronica, or Rock (with several noticeable exceptions) have little or
no
 place in this forum. >>
From the Hippest! >>My opinion has always been that anything goes, exotica
or not.  Usually, the
subject line gives a hint as to what the post is all about.
If it is of no interest, hit the delete key.  Please, no insisting that
suggestions for discussion have no place here, that ain't cool.  Threads
rarely last more than a couple of days, so if it ain't your bag, sorry,
bud.
Yee Haw :)

That's why this BasicHipCat RULES!  I agree...plus, anybody who knows
anything about EXOTICA knows that its roots are in classical music, with
Ravel and Stravinsky!  So, it CERTAINLY has a place here.  Hardcore...well,=

Throbbing Gristle helped launch an interest in at least the _covers_ with
their exotica spoofs!  County, hell ya', bring it on if it's cool!   FAR
EAST MEETS WEST..Tak Shindo, is BRILLIANT!  Rock...hell, the New York =
Dolls
do "Stranded in the Jungle"(a stretch, I know...but) Electronica...I think
FANTASTIC PLASTIC MACHINE and others who delve and dabble in it would take
exception...I know I do!
Jane Fondle-all miss thangs!









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Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 09:31:06 +0100
From: Andrew Edgar <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Where have all the good Mancinis gone?

Okay perhaps I should have said a hot office on a summers afternoon, we dont
have any air cond....

and there is a lot of hot air blowing around the place, mainly from lawyers
mouths

AR



>This has cured my problem, but I am unfortunately stuck in Glasgow on a Hot
>summers afternoon and I need some release from the captivity brought to me
>by My fascist boss, like thoughts of whiling the time away listening to
some
>cool tropical sea lapping on the beach with some breezy tones of Astrud, or
>Les in the not too great distance, making me think of nothing but
>pleasure.......
>

List....

>>>>>>>>He's lying. It's only 65 degrees in Glasgow. It's not hot. Really.
We can
>>>>>>>>just see the sun. He must be Glaswegian if he thinks it's hot. I've
got my
>>>>>>>>windows shut....(and I've already personally responded to him) I
just wanted
>>>>>>>>to make sure y'all don't think Glasgow is like the Sahara or
something :)



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Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 10:34:34 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jane Fondle <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Radio, Help!

Thanks to all you djs who have requested a copy of the
Astroslut album once it becomes available. It's still
not too late to get on the list!

But, to those of you whom are not djs, can you kindly
suggest to me a good radio station in your area to
which we should send the album?  Please reply
off-lists...
Smuch love!Jane Fondle

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Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 09:47:00 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Mimi Mayer)
Subject: (exotica) Western Swing

Now y'all just stop havin' a hizzy fit about that bullshit! Tell you what,
puttin' a stop to the whole kit-and-kaboodle we jaw about on the eXotica is
about as silly as tryin' to herd cats. You just can't do it, darlin'.

Got me, hon? ;_)
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Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 15:33:19 +0100
From: Andrew Edgar <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Studio 2 and taste

>>>>>>One more thing,  I've said it before, there is no-one on the list with
>>>>>>grounds for criticising anyone else on the list on the grounds of
taste,
>>>>>>look what you've signed up to for Christ's sake.

>>>>>>Next thing you know he'll be calling Lou 'Doctor Death',  and then
where
>>>>>>will we be...............


Lou who????

chill out.... dont take it all so seriously, it's like this


I like crap music


You Like crap music


We all like crap music.


if you dont like the word "crap" substitute "exotic"




AR


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Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 10:36:28 -0400 (EDT)
From: Ben Waugh <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Where have all the good Mancinis gone?

As far as mainly goes, I suppose we'll have to take
your word on that, pardner.

Anyway, it must be a cultural thing... Lawyers over
here are generally very reserved and unobtrusive. It
would break your heart.

- --- Andrew Edgar <[e-mail]> wrote:


> and there is a lot of hot air blowing around the
> place, mainly from lawyers
> mouths

> AR


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Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 10:01:19 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Mimi Mayer)
Subject: Re: (exotica) OST One From the Heart by Tom Waits

>Said Nat:
>>And I'm pretty sure Nastassja Kinski was in it as the "other woman".
>
>She was. I loved One from the Heart too. It's as stylized and over the top
>as Coppola's Bram Stoker's Dracula. Tom Waits does a heart-warming turn as
>the bug-eating screaming sniveling Renfield, crazed by his years as
>Dracula's slave. I recall nothing of the Dracula soundtrack though. Mimi




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Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 16:07:38 +0100 (BST)
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Subject: Re: (exotica) Studio 2 stereo / Phase 4 / MFP etc

>>any response would be welcome as im a big fan of studio2's

>Its funny you should mention that. I believe the Sound Gallery compilations
>are Studio 2 stuff (and to think I also collect vintage Studio 1 material).
>But that's not what's funny. What IS funny is that I just ran across an
>entire collection of British military marching type of music recently donated
>to one of my fave local thriftys (the one at the JP church Jane) and much of
>it was on Studio 2. It must have been a mighty diverse label...Jimmy

Yeah, if you bought everything on it you'd be pretty disappointed indeed. The
Sound Gallery comps give a false impression of the label overall. The old Studio
2 compilations (which have been rereleased on CD - avoid!) often give an idea of
some of the range. They turn up frequently in the UK with names like 'Impact!',
'Sound Explosion!'(?), 'Breakthrough' and 'Constellation', and have only about
two playable tracks each. Basically the label was anything that wasn't pop/rock.

Decca Eclipse is less varied as far as I know, being mostly classical and more
relaxing stuff like Stanley Black (Cuban Moonlight, Tropical Moonlight etc),
Werner Muller's more gentle stuff etc. Decca Phase 4 is varied, being anything
recorded in high-fidelity and with colourful diagrams of the mixing desk on an
insert if you're lucky.

Music For Pleasure has another 'interesting' range. (Just got Alan Moorhouse
'Mancini, McCartney and Mendelson Go Marching' but haven't risked playing it
yet... 'Beatles, Bach and Bacharach Go Bossa' is quite nice though... )
It's another 'anything goes' label. Got one recently called 'Children
Talking'(?) which is interviews with small kids about where babies come from and
stuff (a farm apparently...)



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Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 16:21:20 +0100 (BST)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Mantovani/Chacksfield/Leferve/Ros/Aldritch/etc

> But on a happy note, here's a list of some albums I found in a box next to
> a dumpster near my building recently:

> Mantovini And His Orchestra....Play Tangos

err... are there any good Mantovani's? i've never dared listen to one so far,
although I bought my first (Mantovani/Hollywood) for the cover the other day.

What about the others? Frank Chacksfield always seemed drippy to me, and Ramond
Leferve just a bit dull. Talking of Leferve, his records were on Major Minor I
think, which is another schizophrenic label - The Isley Brothers 'It's Your
Thing' was on it too...


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Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 16:59:23 +0100
From: Andrew Edgar <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Studio 2 stereo / Phase 4 / MFP etc

I have some very bad studio 2 records, some of which i ocasionally play,
just to keep me on the right track

AR




>>any response would be welcome as im a big fan of studio2's

>Its funny you should mention that. I believe the Sound Gallery compilations
>are Studio 2 stuff (and to think I also collect vintage Studio 1 material).
>But that's not what's funny. What IS funny is that I just ran across an
>entire collection of British military marching type of music recently
donated
>to one of my fave local thriftys (the one at the JP church Jane) and much
of
>it was on Studio 2. It must have been a mighty diverse label...Jimmy

Yeah, if you bought everything on it you'd be pretty disappointed indeed.
The
Sound Gallery comps give a false impression of the label overall. The old
Studio
2 compilations (which have been rereleased on CD - avoid!) often give an
idea of
s


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Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 09:58:01 -0600
From: Ernie Longmire/Lazlo Nibble <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Western Swing

On Fri, Jul 23, 1999 at 02:13:50PM +0100, Andrew Edgar wrote:

> PS I'm sure that there are several other categories which I am sure should
> also be included in an exclusion list.

Insulting other members, posting flames for the sake of posting flames,
etc. are all definitely on the exclusion list.

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Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 13:13:47 -0400
From: "Dom Ciccone" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Mai Tai in Ultra Lounge?

Just checked the Mondo Exotica disk and no MaiTai's. The drinks: Zombie and
Blue Hawaiian.

Who has the new Tiki sampler?

The drinks usually fit a pattern and Mai Tai's on the Tiki sampler would
fit.



>
>Just curious, but is the Mai Tai listed as one of the cocktails in any of
the
>Ultra-Lounge CDs?
>
>(I have 1/2 dozen of them, not listed in the ones I have).
>
>Thanks,
>Kevin Crossman
>The Search for the Ultimate Mai Tai
>http://www.kevdo.com/maitai/
>
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Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 09:18:22 -0700
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Studio 2 stereo / Phase 4 / MFP etc

I have to agree with the sentiment that Studio 2 is mostly dull - the few
albums I've come across (e.g., Mandingo, Harry Stoneham) that have more than
one good track are the exceptions indeed. Most of the "desirable" Studio 2
records have one killer track, and the rest is The Saccharine Strings sound.

However, even the really lousy S2 albums benefit from the amazing recording
techniques and sound great. When you want a dose of that lush British string
sound, Studio 2's your ticket. (Manuel of the Mountains!)

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Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 00:26:16 +0000
From: Michael Zadoorian <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) radio, help!

Hi-
    I'm new to the list and I'm not even sure exactly what the Astroslut
Album is like, but there's a dj in Detroit at the public radio station
who might dig it, judging from it's name.  The station is WDET and the
jock's name is Martin Bandyke.  He seems to appreciate exotica, though
it's not a staple on his show.
Michael Zadoorian

Jane Fondle wrote:

> Thanks to all you djs who have requested a copy of the
> Astroslut album once it becomes available. It's still
> not too late to get on the list!
>
> But, to those of you whom are not djs, can you kindly
> suggest to me a good radio station in your area to
> which we should send the album?  Please reply
> off-lists...
> Smuch love!Jane Fondle



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Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 12:28:12 -0400
From: "Nathan Miner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Test Card Classics......

Anybody have this CD??

Apparently the BBC would play music behind the test patterns on the "tele" =
and this is a collection of those tunes...

Heard an excerpt on Retro Cocktail Hour.

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Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 19:04:02 +0200
From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) peter thomas soundtrack for "uncle tom's cabin"

anyone heard peter thomas soundtrack for "uncle tom's cabin" (on Bear
family)? i can hardly imagine this being any good, but you never know with
mister PT...

        Johan


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Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 16:36:16 +0200
From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: El Chicles

At 09:53 -0600 99/07/22, Andrew Edgar wrote:

>        I recently bought, a couple of LP's one The Snake, by El
>Chicles,

    hark! that's a Belgian band (i think...)
    there was a recent release "The Best Of" on
    Selection Club that i can't find anywhere...

        Johan


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Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 13:14:48 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Studio 2 stereo

In a message dated 7/23/99 12:18:08 PM, [e-mail] wrote:

>However, even the really lousy S2 albums benefit from the amazing recording
>techniques and sound great.

To say nothing of the covers. Even the military marching bands and Scottish
kilt fellas' bands have covers that look brand spankin' new. If nothing else,
Studio 2 provides excellent wall art. The Brits sure knew how to make a great
and lasting LP cover. And they DO know what's best about American
music....Jimmy Botticelli


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Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 13:15:54 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re:  (exotica) Test Card Classics......

In a message dated 7/23/99 12:27:26 PM, [e-mail] wrote:

>Anybody have this CD??

Heard it about 6 months ago. At that time I found it kind of mediocre


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Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 13:30:16 -0400 (EDT)
From: Ben Waugh <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Studio 2 stereo

Yes (and the Germans, etc). The Charley and Ace
lables, for instance. Johhny Carroll, Charlie
Feathers, Screamin' Jay Hawkins. A comment on our
character (at least as it stood in the 70s) perhaps
that we have to import the best of our own music.


 And they DO know what's best
> about American
> music....Jimmy Botticelli
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Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 13:34:19 -0400 (EDT)
From: chuck <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Test Card Classics......

Hello Nate

I have 2 volumes on Flyback /Chandos and 2 more Volumes on Apollo.   This has been
posted to the list a few times.  There is a whole test card web ring that even has
reviews of the cds.   This is really nice music for background music.  Lots of obscure
eastern European bands.  Like Jimmy, I'm not blown away by this but it is preety
interesting.

Easy listening in the Big Easy
Chuck


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Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 13:38:13 -0400
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) radio, help!

Hi-
    I'm new to the list and I'm not even sure exactly what the Astroslut
Album is like, but there's a dj in Detroit at the public radio station
who might dig it, judging from it's name.  The station is WDET and the
jock's name is Martin Bandyke.  He seems to appreciate exotica, though
it's not a staple on his show.
Michael Zadoorian

Jane Fondle wrote:


Welcome, and thankyou!  See what good karma can do, folks?  Isn't nice...to
play nice! :)
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Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 13:42:22 -0400
From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Western Swing

 >Western Swing sounds like a load of smelly old shit, the absolute antithesis
 >of what exotica is, exotica is - hopefully that which is exotic (and by
.listening to the discussion of recent days on the nature of exotica by
 >members herein, most would agree) and not a load of smelly old rednecks
 >going Yee-Ha

Well, chacour a son gout, I suppose.  There are plenty of things discussed
on this list that I don't care to listen to, so I don't comment on
them.  Granted, Martin Denny and Bob Wills are not necessarily mentioned in
the same breath, but if you look at the back of Exotica, they call Denny's
music "Jazz" and let's face it, Western Swing is a type of Jazz as well.  I
find it most fascinating to find the connections because the differences
are so easily seen.  Is Western Swing music Exotica? No.  Is it a form of
music that is a light into a culture that is different from my own, with
some roots in same culture?  Yes.  While the term "Exotic" is by
definition, "Foreign", the C&W side of Western Swing is in a small sense,
exotic.

But I see that you may not run out and find the collection that I
suggested.  That's fine, too.  Get Delerium in Hi-Fi by Andre Popp.  I
recommend it (I found it for three bucks!) and it is not the least bit
Garth Brooks-ian or Crystal Gayle-esque (artists, if you must know, I don't
care for and own no music by)

By the way, if you could see the fellow that is posting this, you would see
a fellow that would rather not deal with smelly old rednecks, however, I
found that not all rednecks are racists.  Some are quite nice, perhaps
nicer than myself.  I had to rethink how I listened to music, for the same
voices that I had heard on old films talk about who they did and didn't
want in their schools, were then singing with the same accents and
therefore I had a visceral reaction to any C&W because of it.  When I got
past that, I found some songs that I liked but I still cannot call myself a
fan of the genre.

In conclusion, sorry you didn't dig the post, but if you really don't,
e-mail me privately (that goes for everyone) and we can hash it out away
from everyone else.  This list does indeed take some twists and turns, but
to paraphrase an old Calypso song it usually is fun to jump into the saddle
and hold onto the bridle.

Let's all be nice to each other on the 'Net.

Brian Phillips



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Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 19:52:05 +0200
From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Western Swing

Welcome to the Exclusica mailing list!

Andrew Edgar wrote:

> This all sounds pretty awful, this is supposed to be for exotica, not
> mainstream C+W garbage, the next thing will be discussions on Kenny Rod=
gers,
> then Rita Coolidge, Dwighht Yoakum, Then Garth Brookes.
>
> Then I really will know  that I am in the wrong place.
>
> (...)(and by
> listening to the discussion of recent days on the nature of exotica by
> members herein, most would agree)

> I hope that no one will disagre when I say that Country, Classical, har=
dcore
> electronica, or Rock (with several noticeable exceptions) have little o=
r no
> place in this forum.
>
> PS I'm sure that there are several other categories which I am sure sho=
uld
> also be included in an exclusion list.

I thought we're long over this kind of dramatization of the "right" way. =
Sounds
frightening.

I think I have posted enough all-to-exotica-related comments, to have the=
 right
to ask for names of some off-topic musicians, without having to subscribe=
 to a
Western Swing list first.

Go ahead, Andrew, make your list of what's not to be done. BTW: Where hav=
e you
been during the daily discussion on Tom Waits? Could be funny to read you
proving that Tom Waits is more exotic than Bob Wills & His Texas Playboys.

Thanks to those who gave me tips about the subject anyway. Bob Wills and =
Lefty
Frizzell are all I know so far; seems they're the best of it already. I t=
hought
there is loads of stuff like that out there. I think, and I state it here=
: Bob
Wills is one of the great song-writers of all times.

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Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 19:52:25 +0200
From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Exotiquarium album cover art book

Mark wrote:

 I received my copy of "Exotiquarium: Album Art from
the Space Age" by Jennifer McKnight-Trontz today.  I
haven't had a chance to read much of the text but at
first glance, the quality of the images is a little
disappointing.  There is a noticeable glare on many
and several of the images are poorly cropped
(especially Ferrante & Teicher's Blast Off!).
Amazingly, one of the most famous space age album
cover images, Les Baxter's Space Escapades, is nowhere
to be found!

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Does this have anything to do with Johan Dada Vis? Johan, are you still
out there? The e-mail-address from your website seems to be out of
work...


Mo




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