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exotica-digest          Friday, July 23 1999          Volume 02 : Number 455



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(exotica) Ahhh I shouldnt try it!
RE: (exotica) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 16:39:25 +0100
Re: (exotica) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 10:46:04 +0100
RE: (exotica) Where have all the good Mancinis gone?
(exotica) studio 2 stereo
(exotica) Re: Halucinogenic Love Drugs
RE: (exotica) Where have all the good Mancinis gone?
(exotica) RE: Where have all the good Mancinis gone?
Re: (exotica) What does Les Baxter's African Blue album sound like?
(exotica) Past list discussions
(exotica) OST One From the Heart by Tom Waits
Re: (exotica) OST One From the Heart by Tom Waits
(exotica) Crystal's eyes may be red with tears...
Re: (exotica) At the borders of reality... :) [OT]
Re: (exotica) OST One From the Heart by Tom Waits
Re: (exotica) OST One From the Heart by Tom Waits
(exotica) found music!
Re:  (exotica) studio 2 stereo
Re:  (exotica) RE: Where have all the good Mancinis gone?
(exotica) Re: What does Les Baxter's African Blue album sound like?
Re:  Re: (exotica) OST One From the Heart by Tom Waits
Re: (exotica) found music!
Re: (exotica) OST One From the Heart by Tom Waits
(exotica) Western Swing
(exotica) Needle replacements and vinyl needs
Re: (exotica) What does Les Baxter's African Blue album sound like?
(exotica) exotic italy
Re: (exotica) exotic italy
Re:(exotica) Western Swing
RE: (exotica) Western Swing
(exotica) Finds
Re: (exotica) Western Swing
RE: (exotica) Western Swing
Re: (exotica) Western Swing
(exotica) Tom Waits/VU-off topic

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Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 19:11:40 +0200
From: "Sandberg Magnus" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Ahhh I shouldnt try it!

exotica poem



Its the lure from the unknown
catching fish

But I'm no fish, if i was i would think like one

Out of it. Dying, but still around

Reading everything i found on the south seas
Heyerdahl, Bengt Danielsson hey he lived on Tahiti
dreaming of a simplier life
and I was very young
12 or 13

Lots of aquariums at home

then trying to forget my dream
No choice

Drawing made me calm
When drawings bacame best
No thoughts
Disconnected

Still drawings

Seeing two movies a day for ten years
Understanding the beauty in
goofball directors

Then suddenly
Listening to movies
Also laughing

Coffy
The burmanese Tiger Fighting
Plan 9
The Trip
Freaks
etc

later

Finding Yma Sumac at a recordshop
She yelled mystery

Finding Arthur Lyman in London
Expensive man
But it was something...
Taboo

What did I care
I wanted to die

The south seas.=20
Once again... home?

Getting into computers
Amazed by Internet
Suddenly a search on
Lyman, or Sumac

Exotica?

Finding a site with recordcovers
Gulp!
They were for sale too!

Finding exotica list
Stupid questions
Wanting to learn
Surely a pain for some
surely still are

Still here

Finding new worlds through serious listening
But not yet leave
Begging to stay
Lots of things to do
and say
to myself
in my world
and Yours


Magnus






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Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 16:14:49 +0100
From: Andrew Edgar <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 16:39:25 +0100

wout steenhuis and the kon tikis are, perhaps the most dire representation
of what exotica/lounge, weird and groovy music could be stretched to, it's
not that I dont like them , it is just not the type of thing you would want
people to know about, i.e. they are packed full of steel guitars, and that
type of thing, somewhat like pure tourist musicfrom the archipelago.


But not all that bad, just really cheesy.

AR

Ben Waugh wrote


>>>>>>>>>>PS: what sort of thing is wout steenhuis (my pupal
>>>>>>>>>>Dutch can make out wood? stonehouse)?


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Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 13:43:57 -0400
From: cheryl <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 10:46:04 +0100

>
>                 >>>>>>>also recently there has been discussion on whether or
> not Stanley Turrentine, Edmundo Ros, or Frank Chacksfield have made any good
> records.

Personally, I will gladly trade away the one or two Frank Chacksfield
LPs that have found their way into my collection.  But Edmundo Ros???
This is the man who released "Latin Love In"! While some of his releases
are better than others, I consider him among the better "exotica"
musicians, and I believe that he deserves a home in any exotica
collection.  But then, that's just my humble little opinion.

cheryl


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Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 19:44:40 +0100 (BST)
From: Jill Mingo <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Where have all the good Mancinis gone?

At 15:29 22/07/99 +0100, you wrote:
>
>This has cured my problem, but I am unfortunately stuck in Glasgow on a Hot
>summers afternoon and I need some release from the captivity brought to me
>by My fascist boss, like thoughts of whiling the time away listening to some
>cool tropical sea lapping on the beach with some breezy tones of Astrud, or
>Les in the not too great distance, making me think of nothing but
>pleasure.......
>

List....

He's lying. It's only 65 degrees in Glasgow. It's not hot. Really. We can
just see the sun. He must be Glaswegian if he thinks it's hot. I've got my
windows shut....(and I've already personally responded to him) I just wanted
to make sure y'all don't think Glasgow is like the Sahara or something :)

Jill "Mingo-go"



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Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 14:50:30 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) studio 2 stereo

I noticed alot of people on the list were talking about decca phase4's
does anybody have any opinions on EMI's studio 2 stereo range? eg. what's
your favourite? whats the worst one you have heard? favourite covers?etc
any response would be welcome as im a big fan of studio2's

cheers!!!! rob




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Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 14:49:15 -0400
From: Ross Orr <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Halucinogenic Love Drugs

><< Who is Les Baxter? Is he cool?
>
> Magnus >>
>
>I think he was a back up singer.

Thank you so much Tiki Bob for that most "illuminating" post--I will add a
FAQ entry about this Lefty Baxter directly.

Now was that CD-R page you were thinking about this one?

http://www.fadden.com/cdrfaq/

cheers,

 --Ross

|| Ross "Mambo Frenzy" Orr  <[e-mail]>
|| Ann Arbor, Michigan USA




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Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 15:20:51 -0400
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Where have all the good Mancinis gone?

List....

He's lying. It's only 65 degrees in Glasgow. It's not hot. Really. We can
just see the sun. He must be Glaswegian if he thinks it's hot. I've got my
windows shut....(and I've already personally responded to him) I just
wanted
to make sure y'all don't think Glasgow is like the Sahara or something :)
Jill "Mingo-go"


>>Aaahh, geeez, Jill, another missed opportunity!  Think of the list's
collective vision of you strolling across the desert, in a Barbara Eden
outfit!
Jane Fondle-exotica consultant



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Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 13:40:38 -0500
From: "Mark D. Head" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) RE: Where have all the good Mancinis gone?

Jane Fondle wrote:

>But....GUNN #1?  OUR MAN IN HOLLYWOOD?  C'MON!  Let's talk about >the
REAL Mancini killer stuff!  What about COMBO?!??  What about THE >BLUES
AND THE BEAT?  A TOUCH OF EVIL?  THE MANCINI TOUCH!  >These records far
outweigh in their fab-density some of the stuff mentioned here >lately!

>Jane Fondle-the Lonely Girl

I heartily concur.  Hank's greatest stuff, imo, was on those albums,
plus The Party, The Pink Panther, Breakfast at Tiffany's, Mr. Lucky &
Mr. Lucky Goes Latin, High Times, and the majority of his other
wonderful, genius-stamped work from the 60's.  I submit that "So Neat"
from High Times is a quintessential "cool" song.  It goes very nicely on
a breezy day with "A Cool Shade of Blue" from The Mancini Touch, driving
around with the top down on the convertible, sipping your favorite
libation, with your favorite love by your side.  Try it and tell me you
ain't grinnin'!

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Mark D. Head
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Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 13:44:42 -0500
From: "Mark D. Head" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) What does Les Baxter's African Blue album sound like?

This is available as a double CD with Colors of Brazil.  It has a
kick-butt version of "A Felicidade" (AC Jobim from Black Orpheus) from
the Brazil portion, and my favorite from African Blue is "The Girl From
Uganda."  Definitely worth having, for my collection!

- --

Mark D. Head
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Isn't Smashmouth a Bourbon Cocktail?




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Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 15:38:21 -0500
From: "Brian Karasick" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Past list discussions

SLarry wrote:
> also recently there has been discussion on whether or not Stanley Turnetine,
> Edmundo Ros, or Frank Chacksfield have made any good records.
Haven't heard a Frank Chacksfield record I liked yet but Edundo Ros
has some great ones, matched only by Esquivel!  I think he even did
one with Caterina Valente...


Brian Karasick
Physical Planner
McGill University
Montreal, Canada


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Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 17:47:53 -0400
From: "Dom Ciccone" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) OST One From the Heart by Tom Waits

Celebrating the diversity on the list....

I found this CD in the cellar, in purgatory if you will, at a place called
Pitchfork Records in New Hampshire. According to the sticker its been their
since 4/17/98.

OST written by Tom Waits. Duets and solos with Crystal Gail. That guy in
Cleveland would say it's a jazz record because Jack Sheldon , Teddy Edwards
(?) on sax and Shelly Manne (!) are some of the musicians on the selections,
I would kinda agree,  some sections are very low-key jazz inspired
orchestral.  Some are duets with jazz trio, one with Waits on piano and Gail
on vocals. One solo Gail track almost sounds country with twangy guitar by
someone named Dennis Budimir. A funky tango. The more I listen the more I
like.

Their must be folks on the list who are into Tom Waits. I few days before I
found this I met a fellow who said Waits was a god. (He sounded like he may
have capitalized god, I won't)

I could get into Waits music. I have a few already.

My wife said I was "weird" for listening to Crystal Gail. (we are anti C&W
but I must be straying, Jane: plan an intercession...) Have I gone too
far??????

My brown eyes are blue,
Domenic




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Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 17:03:56 -0400
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) OST One From the Heart by Tom Waits

OST written by Tom Waits. Duets and solos with Crystal Gail. That guy in
Cleveland would say it's a jazz record because Jack Sheldon , Teddy Edwards
(?) on sax and Shelly Manne (!) are some of the musicians on the
selections,
 I could get into Waits music. I have a few already.
My wife said I was "weird" for listening to Crystal Gail. (we are anti C&W
but I must be straying, Jane: plan an intercession...) Have I gone too
far??????
My brown eyes are blue,
Domenic


>>Hell, no!  1.  I dig country as long as it's good, Hank Sr., Patsy Cline,
etc.
2. Tom Waits is truly an original!  And Crystal Gail, that record was done
WAY before she released any commercial schlock, I think.
Exotica=connection=to=Waits...the Oranj Symphonette guys play on Tom's new
rekkid, and I think on THE BLACK RIDER as well!
Thank God I'm A Country Girl-Jane Fondle

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Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 17:18:05 -0400
From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Crystal's eyes may be red with tears...

...because her name is Crystal Gayle, not Gail.

I make this correction for those who may wish to seek out more of her
music, not as an "Ah kin spell more better'n you" post.

Small CG sidenote:  In Cheech & Chong's Next Movie, Cheech Marin peforms a
song called "Mexican-Americans", which has a line that goes something like
this:

"Mexican-Americans sometimes put contacts in their eyes,
To make their blue eyes look brown,
And don't it make my brown eyes blue?"

I know it doesn't rhyme.

Also for the mention of Waits, I actually had a class with a teacher named
Francis Thumm who was a friend of his and not only did the string
arrangements for some of Waits' albums, but also played with Harry
Partch.  Thumm can be seen in the film of one of Partch's last works, "The
Dreamer That Remains".

I love you all individually AND as a group,
Brian Phillips



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Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 00:35:21 +0200
From: Nicola Battista <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) At the borders of reality... :) [OT]

>which reminds me of talking to an italian person about some goo in an
>episode of star trek saying it looked like swarfega (a brand of industrial
>soap) and he looked kind of shocked. sounded like suor fica in italian
>(translation on request).

errrr... ;-DD

bye,
Nicola (Dj Batman) Battista



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Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 19:28:23 -0400 (EDT)
From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) OST One From the Heart by Tom Waits

At 05:47 PM 7/22/99 -0400, Dom wrote:

>My wife said I was "weird" for listening to Crystal Gayle. (we are anti C&W
>but I must be straying) Have I gone too far??????

Does being anti-C&W include being anti-Western Swing? How about when a guy
like Marty Robbins does an LP of Hawaiian tunes? Or when a guy like Tak
Shindo goes western? Or when C&W picks up on the Hawaiian lap steel and
integrates it so totally it's a country cliche now?

I guess one thing "our" music teaches is that it's hard to be a purist. And
that generalities fall over quickly if nudged. Make that 2 things ...

- -Lou
(Now that you've listened to the One From The Heart OST, are you going to
seek out the video?)




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Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 19:37:06 -0400
From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) OST One From the Heart by Tom Waits

 >Does being anti-C&W include being anti-Western Swing?

I don't actively seek out Country & Western, but I do like old Western
Swing.  Another fan of Western Swing was Lester Young!

Brian Phillips



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Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 21:37:39 -0400 (EDT)
From: [e-mail] (bruce lenkei)
Subject: (exotica) found music!

Well, it turns out that the 3 Suns disk I spotted was gone by the time I
got back to the record store. Ah well.

But on a happy note, here's a list of some albums I found in a box next to
a dumpster near my building recently:

Merengue! By Cugat!
Flamenco by Mario Escudero
Emotions, Featuring Richard Shores & His Orchestra
Street of Dreams, Jan Garber And His Orchestra
Music For Dining, The Melachrino Strings
Stanley Black And His Orchestra, South Of The Border
Dancing In Paris, Simonette And His Ensemble
Door Of Dreams, Joe Reisman And His Orchestra
Mantovini And His Orchestra....Play Tangos
Dancing at the Waldorf, Nat Brandwynne

Plus some Nat King Cole and Dinah Washington stuff.

A little on the schmaltzy side, but still fun to listen to.

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Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 23:08:19 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re:  (exotica) studio 2 stereo

In a message dated 7/22/99 2:54:16 PM, [e-mail] wrote:

>any response would be welcome as im a big fan of studio2's

Its funny you should mention that. I believe the Sound Gallery compilations
are Studio 2 stuff (and to think I also collect vintage Studio 1 material).
But that's not what's funny. What IS funny is that I just ran across an
entire collection of British military marching type of music recently donated
to one of my fave local thriftys (the one at the JP church Jane) and much of
it was on Studio 2. It must have been a mighty diverse label...Jimmy


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Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 23:10:08 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re:  (exotica) RE: Where have all the good Mancinis gone?

In a message dated 7/22/99 3:42:00 PM, [e-mail] wrote:

>I heartily concur.  Hank's greatest stuff, imo, was on those albums,
>plus The Party, The Pink Panther, Breakfast at Tiffany's, Mr. Lucky &
>Mr. Lucky Goes Latin, High Times, and the majority of his other
>wonderful, genius-stamped work from the 60's.

I admit to paying 25 dollars tonight for a sealed copy of "Arabesque"


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Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 23:11:27 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Re: What does Les Baxter's African Blue album sound like?

It sounds like "After Bathing At Baxter's" There's my wise guy Baxter crack


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Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 01:02:53 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re:  Re: (exotica) OST One From the Heart by Tom Waits

In a message dated 7/22/99 5:08:11 PM, you wrote:

<<My wife said I was "weird" for listening to Crystal Gail. (we are anti C&W
but I must be straying, Jane: plan an intercession...) Have I gone too
far??????>>

I wonder what your wife would think of the bluegrass version (done totally
seriously) of the Velvet Underground's song "What Goes On". (I didn't get the
name of the artist - sorry).


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Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 04:10:50 -0400
From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) found music!

At 09:37 PM 7/22/99 -0400, bruce lenkei wrote:
>
>But on a happy note, here's a list of some albums I found in a box next to
>a dumpster near my building recently:
>
>Dancing at the Waldorf, Nat Brandwynne

Hmmm...  There was a fairly important klezmer bandleader named Naftali
Brandwein.  I wonder if Nat is the name he used for "whiter" recording
dates.  Nat is a popular pseudonym.
I don't suppose they mention anything about klezmer or "Nat's" curriculum
vitae on the record, do they?

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Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 04:11:51 -0400
From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) OST One From the Heart by Tom Waits

At 05:47 PM 7/22/99 Dom Ciccone wrote:
>
>Celebrating the diversity on the list....
>
>I found this CD in the cellar, in purgatory if you will, at a place called
>Pitchfork Records in New Hampshire. According to the sticker its been their
>since 4/17/98.
>
>OST written by Tom Waits. Duets and solos with Crystal Gail.

That's one of my long time favourite records.  This Francis Ford Coppola
film was basically a disaster financially and critically but I am one of
the few who loved it.  At the time anyway.
It was his twist on the idea of a musical.   Rather than having the actors
onscreen do the singing, the story is narrated by the "offscreen" songs.
Tom sings the man's point of view and Crystal the woman's.
The film was also very "stylized" so that it resembled an old fashioned
musical in other ways.

And as far as Crystal's presence on the record, at the time she was
basically known for being the younger sister of whatever country songbird
she's the younger sister of.  But I believe she'd done "Don't it make your
brown eyes blue" by that point too.  I always assumed she was chosen
because her smooth voice was such a contrast to Tom's lovely croak and so
it helped exaggerate the contrast between the character's points of view.
The couple, I think, were played by Frederic Forrest and Terri Garr.  I can
imagine Frederic Forrest singing something like Tom Waits.
And I'm pretty sure Nastassja Kinski was in it as the "other woman".

I think I'm going to have to rent it and see it again.

Nat




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Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 11:45:59 +0200
From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Western Swing

Lou Smith wrote:

> Does being anti-C&W include being anti-Western Swing?
>
> I guess one thing "our" music teaches is that it's hard to be a purist. And
> that generalities fall over quickly if nudged. Make that 2 things ...

Completely agree. BTW: I LOVE Western Swing. We should really open a little
discussion on that... Any suggestions?

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Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 07:18:02 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Needle replacements and vinyl needs

Greetings Exotica List Members (and you know who you are!),

I thought I would pass along the name of a fellow who recently helped me get
a few needle replacements for those old Magnavox consoles I am always ranting
on.

His name is Craig Stepneski and he has The Record King in Hackensack NJ.  He
has been in the vinyl collecting/selling business for about 25 years.

I sent him an email after seeing his site at a search engine results.  He
emailed me back in no time and had the information on the (somewhat obscure)
needle replacements .

I later called him to place the order and was amazed about his knowledge and
resources to obtain needle replacements.   He made it sound like what he
didn't have he could get in no time.  And the whole time I am talking to him,
music is playing in the background and he is says once or twice, "Hold on.
I'm making some cassette copies."  Does this sound familiar????

Anyway, he seems like a great guy, takes charge cards for orders and was a
pleasure to deal with.  Knows all about my (our) man Denny and that make it
even better in my book.

I would (obviously) recommend him to others on the List who might need his
services.  I did not inquire about his vinyl offerings (bonk!) but that will
need to be explored in the future.

Some of his info is copied below.

Regards,

Robert

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<< Craig Stepneski
 And mail to:
 The Record King
 303 Main Street
 Hackensack, NJ  07601
 201-488-4232
 For credit card orders please click on the picture of Visa or Mastercard on
our homepage and follow instructions...or simply give us a call.
 Thanks,
 Craig - Record King
 http://member.aol.com/records123
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Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 07:46:56 -0400
From: "Nathan Miner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) What does Les Baxter's African Blue album sound like?

Is this CD still available????

>>> "Mark D. Head" <[e-mail]> 07/22 2:44 PM >>>

This is available as a double CD with Colors of Brazil.  It has a
kick-butt version of "A Felicidade" (AC Jobim from Black Orpheus) from
the Brazil portion, and my favorite from African Blue is "The Girl From
Uganda."  Definitely worth having, for my collection!

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Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 04:50:57 PDT
From: "Robert McKenna" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) exotic italy

anyone heard of this....

*    V/A - Vroommm !! LP ( Plastic / Italy )
" High Performance 70's Turbo Sounds for sprint-exotic movie
     scenes ".........that's what it says on the cover !!

also finally heard the jazzanova remix of that morricone track done by
balanco (they have a new album out), must say i was very disappointed, they
used barely any of the vocals which i think were the best thing about the
track in the first place.
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Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 08:22:20 -0400 (EDT)
From: Ben Waugh <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) exotic italy

Haven't heard of that one, but what about Quintetto
Vesuvio (60s - Vesuvius Records)? I was weeding my
collection the other night and put this one on to see
if it would join the other Salvation Army conscripts.
INot overly exotic, but fun - a few uhm, restaurant
sounding ballads & beat music - fast double picking on
some tracks. No accordian - an lead/rhythm guitar,
bass, drums, vocals.

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> anyone heard of this....

> *    V/A - Vroommm !! LP ( Plastic / Italy )
> " High Performance 70's Turbo Sounds for
> sprint-exotic movie

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Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 09:03:09 -0400
From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re:(exotica) Western Swing

 >Completely agree. BTW: I LOVE Western Swing. We should really open a little
 >discussion on that... Any suggestions?

While I am not an expert on the subject, try to find the collection "Okeh
Western Swing", which includes Bob Wills and the Texas Playboys, the Light
Crust Doughboys and the man with the name of dual racial horror, Spade Cooley.

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Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 14:13:50 +0100
From: Andrew Edgar <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Western Swing

This all sounds pretty awful, this is supposed to be for exotica, not
mainstream C+W garbage, the next thing will be discussions on Kenny Rodgers,
then Rita Coolidge, Dwighht Yoakum, Then Garth Brookes.

Then I really will know  that I am in the wrong place.

Western Swing sounds like a load of smelly old shit, the absolute antithesis
of what exotica is, exotica is - hopefully that which is exotic (and by
listening to the discussion of recent days on the nature of exotica by
members herein, most would agree) and not a load of smelly old rednecks
going Yee-Ha

I hope that no one will disagre when I say that Country, Classical, hardcore
electronica, or Rock (with several noticeable exceptions) have little or no
place in this forum.

Regards

AR

PS I'm sure that there are several other categories which I am sure should
also be included in an exclusion list.


 >Completely agree. BTW: I LOVE Western Swing. We should really open a
little
 >discussion on that... Any suggestions?

While I am not an expert on the subject, try to find the collection "Okeh
Western Swing", which includes Bob Wills and the Texas Playboys, the Light
Crust Doughboys and the man with the name of dual racial horror, Spade
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Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 09:22:41 -0400 (EDT)
From: Ben Waugh <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Finds

A lunch break trip to the Sal. Army the other day paid
off fairly well. Most of records were straight jazz,
all were in pristine condition (the parents must have
kept them out of reach of kids like me). The ones that
I will mention are:

Arthur Lyman: The Leis of Jazz. AL LPs seem to be
popping up everywhere these days. I've been looking
for this one for ages, mostly for the neat-o cover, I
will admit. It's actually an enjoyable record - no
bird calls, just vibraphone/marimba dominated jazz.
The last song on the 1st side, Autumn Leaves, is a
vocal sung by Ethel Azama.

Multi-Trax: America is Hard to Find/A Rock Opera
(1970). AKA Daniel Berrigan: anti-war activist,
hippie, ordained priest. Side 1 is an intro -
dedicating the record to "good freaks everywhere," and
several, uhm, poems. Though Fr B's heart was/is in the
right place, the lingo is a gas. Side 2 is the rock
opera. More Berrigan lyrics to conga, bongo, guitar,
etc. Some are fun: "America is Hard to Find" is read
with a powerfully exaggerated rural suthun accent
("Hod t' fan"). So on.

Obaile do Carequinha (SOM, SOCP 40.474 Stereo, Sao
Paolo, 1969): This one is interesting. Carequinha is a
slight clown, not quite a dwarf, yet likely not 5'6".
He sings in a squeaky pitch, backed by a chorus of
children (if I could knew Portugese, I might read that
the record is the ST to a children's morning
show...)on most of the songs. He is backed up by Os
Falcoes Reais. And they are fantastic. The cover
features them in matching red blazers, skinny red
ties, Beatle-do's on a couple - wielding an electric
single neck 12 string, a wedge bodied guitar and a
Farfisa organ, fronted by aforementioned clown and
seated youngsters. All tracks are either fuzzed out
garage rockers, or melodic Shadows-Atlantics "surf"
sounding. The last song on the record, The Millionaire
(perhaps the theme to the series... dunno), is an
echoey, melodic instrumental that I can only compare
to The Atlantics. This one is doing allot of time on
the turntable.

Of Os Falcoes Reais (something falcons?) I was only
able to decipher that they were formed from the youth
of the city of Barra Mansa in the State of Rio and
then "o mesme que atua em seus programes televisao."
(Same as something something  tv prgrams?). If we have
any Portugese speaking lurkers, I'll be happy to key
in text for translation.

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Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 09:31:00 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Western Swing

<< I hope that no one will disagre when I say that Country, Classical,
hardcore
 electronica, or Rock (with several noticeable exceptions) have little or no
 place in this forum. >>

My opinion has always been that anything goes, exotica or not.  Usually, the
subject line gives a hint as to what the post is all about.

If it is of no interest, hit the delete key.  Please, no insisting that
suggestions for discussion have no place here, that ain't cool.  Threads
rarely last more than a couple of days, so if it ain't your bag, sorry, bud.

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Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 14:34:02 +0100
From: Andrew Edgar <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Western Swing

Mmmm mr Politically Correct Strikes again




<< I hope that no one will disagre when I say that Country, Classical,
hardcore
 electronica, or Rock (with several noticeable exceptions) have little or no
 place in this forum. >>

My opinion has always been that anything goes, exotica or not.  Usually, the

subject line gives a hint as to what the post is all about.

If it is of no interest, hit the delete key.  Please, no insisting that
suggestions for discussion have no place here, that ain't cool.  Threads
rarely last more than a couple of days, so if it ain't your bag, sorry, bud.








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Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 09:31:32 -0400
From: "telstar" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Western Swing

Andrew wrote:

> I hope that no one will disagre when I say that Country, Classical,
hardcore
> electronica, or Rock (with several noticeable exceptions) have little or
no
> place in this forum.

You've got it wrong. The Exotica List is the place for those with open
ears.

When I reach the point where I am about to write off an entire musical
genre, someone here will talk about some interesting
record/performer/musical style of which I have never heard. The world is a
big place and the musical possibilities are endless.

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Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 09:34:29 -0400
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Tom Waits/VU-off topic

In a message dated 7/22/99 5:08:11 PM, you wrote:

<<My wife said I was "weird" for listening to Crystal Gail. (we are anti
C&W
but I must be straying, Jane: plan an intercession...) Have I gone too
far??????>>

>>I wonder what your wife would think of the bluegrass version (done
totally
seriously) of the Velvet Underground's song "What Goes On". (I didn't get
the
name of the artist - sorry).

Well, Land-o-garshen!  I didn't think there would ever be mention of the
Velvets on this list...but I gotta pipe in since it relates...If anybody on
this list has the 5CD box set(the other "banana peel" cover)...there are
several takes of "All Tomorrow's Parties" that are tres-bluegrass!
Jane Fondle, wantin' some Louvin!


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